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Hate to put a damper on things but if we had lost 10-0 you would still be up to your necks in the smelly stuff, Just a bad football weekend all round:(

 

Could be the rumourr going round at Skate that he's being eyed up for the Toon job again.Players are worried that they'd have to turn up and work at training instead of ritually swanning about.

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I look forward to a soon to be happening dressing room 'bust up' between 'Saggy chops' and Sol when the former has to tell the latter that he's past it. What he'll probably do though is to tell one of his underlings to do it, and he'll be on a scouting mission in Majorca at the time.

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While we're talking about our neighbours, this is from today's Guardian:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/23/portsmouth.premierleague

 

The Premier League is to seek clarification from Portsmouth about who owns them after reports in Israel appeared to list the club among assets belonging to the controversial business and political figure Arkadi Gaydamak rather than his son, Alexandre.

 

Since Portsmouth were sold by Milan Mandaric in January 2006 the club have always said they are owned by Alexandre, known as Sacha. Sources close to Sacha, 32, said then that he had paid with his own money, which he had made in property deals in Russia, and that his father, reputed to be a billionaire, had no share in or influence over the club.

 

At the time, Arkadi was the subject of an international arrest warrant issued by Paris magistrates who were seeking to question him about alleged illicit arms trading to Angola in the 1990s. A Russian who made his fortune in France then moved to Israel, he was also questioned by the Israel police's national serious and international crimes unit as part of an investigation into alleged money-laundering. The 56-year-old has denied any wrongdoing, denounced the investigations and become a prominent figure in Israel. In August 2005 he bought the Beitar Jerusalem football club, who won the Israeli championship last season. He has since founded a political party and is currently preparing to stand in the Jerusalem mayoral elections.

 

Reports in Israel have suggested recently that Arkadi was selling assets, which he denies, and last week an Israeli newspaper published what it described as a "declaration" by him of everything he owns. Valued at a total of 10.1bn Israeli shekel (£1.6bn), the list included two "executive aircraft", two yachts and a fleet of cars including two Mercedes, two BMWs and five Bentleys. Several villas in Israel were listed and "a luxurious penthouse overlooking the Kremlin" in Moscow. The "declaration" showed Gaydamak Sr owning large shares of companies in Russia and Israel, Agrosoyuz, an egg-marketing company, and a 50% share in the Russian Regional Development Bank.

 

The newspaper, the tabloid Yedioth Aharonot, also cited Beitar Jerusalem among the assets, and "Soccer Abroad: Portsmouth FC, in England's top league ... managed by Gaydamak's son, Sacha".

 

That sparked concerns about the assurances given since the 2006 takeover, that Sacha owns the club. Portsmouth's most recent accounts, for the year ended May 31 2007, state that he is the outright owner: "The [club's] parent undertaking, Miland Development (2004) Limited, is controlled by a company registered in the British Virgin Islands, which in turn is controlled by Alexandre Gaydamak."

 

A Portsmouth spokesman this week stated that that was still the position and that Arkadi had nothing to do with the club. "Alexandre Gaydamak is the 100% owner of the club and his father has never had any dealings with it," he said.

 

A spokesman for Arkadi echoed that. He said the list in Yedioth Aharonot was accurate but some of the assets were owned by members of the family, not Arkadi. "It is a list of his family's assets and it is correct," the spokesman said. "However, there is no connection between Arkadi Gaydamak and Portsmouth Football Club, which his son owns."

 

The report has, however, prompted the Premier League to ask Portsmouth to confirm who owns the club. It follows the revelation by this newspaper's Digger column that the league asked the government a year ago for help in discovering who was really behind some of its clubs. Several, like Portsmouth, are owned via companies registered in offshore tax havens, where shareholders can remain anonymous. "In light of recent media reports from Israel," a Premier League spokesman said, "we shall be seeking further clarification from Portsmouth FC in regard to the identity of their beneficial owner."

 

At the time of the 2006 takeover Portsmouth are understood to have supplied the Premier League with documents demonstrating to the league's satisfaction that Sacha, not his father, was the new owner. Portsmouth's spokesman said the club would comply with the latest request and that the report in Israel had given no cause for concern. "We are happy to provide the Premier League with all documentation," he said. "It will show that Alexandre Gaydamak is still the 100% owner of the club and nothing has changed."

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While we're talking about our neighbours, this is from today's Guardian:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/23/portsmouth.premierleague

 

The Premier League is to seek clarification from Portsmouth about who owns them after reports in Israel appeared to list the club among assets belonging to the controversial business and political figure Arkadi Gaydamak rather than his son, Alexandre.

 

Since Portsmouth were sold by Milan Mandaric in January 2006 the club have always said they are owned by Alexandre, known as Sacha. Sources close to Sacha, 32, said then that he had paid with his own money, which he had made in property deals in Russia, and that his father, reputed to be a billionaire, had no share in or influence over the club.

 

At the time, Arkadi was the subject of an international arrest warrant issued by Paris magistrates who were seeking to question him about alleged illicit arms trading to Angola in the 1990s. A Russian who made his fortune in France then moved to Israel, he was also questioned by the Israel police's national serious and international crimes unit as part of an investigation into alleged money-laundering. The 56-year-old has denied any wrongdoing, denounced the investigations and become a prominent figure in Israel. In August 2005 he bought the Beitar Jerusalem football club, who won the Israeli championship last season. He has since founded a political party and is currently preparing to stand in the Jerusalem mayoral elections.

 

Reports in Israel have suggested recently that Arkadi was selling assets, which he denies, and last week an Israeli newspaper published what it described as a "declaration" by him of everything he owns. Valued at a total of 10.1bn Israeli shekel (£1.6bn), the list included two "executive aircraft", two yachts and a fleet of cars including two Mercedes, two BMWs and five Bentleys. Several villas in Israel were listed and "a luxurious penthouse overlooking the Kremlin" in Moscow. The "declaration" showed Gaydamak Sr owning large shares of companies in Russia and Israel, Agrosoyuz, an egg-marketing company, and a 50% share in the Russian Regional Development Bank.

 

The newspaper, the tabloid Yedioth Aharonot, also cited Beitar Jerusalem among the assets, and "Soccer Abroad: Portsmouth FC, in England's top league ... managed by Gaydamak's son, Sacha".

 

That sparked concerns about the assurances given since the 2006 takeover, that Sacha owns the club. Portsmouth's most recent accounts, for the year ended May 31 2007, state that he is the outright owner: "The [club's] parent undertaking, Miland Development (2004) Limited, is controlled by a company registered in the British Virgin Islands, which in turn is controlled by Alexandre Gaydamak."

 

A Portsmouth spokesman this week stated that that was still the position and that Arkadi had nothing to do with the club. "Alexandre Gaydamak is the 100% owner of the club and his father has never had any dealings with it," he said.

 

A spokesman for Arkadi echoed that. He said the list in Yedioth Aharonot was accurate but some of the assets were owned by members of the family, not Arkadi. "It is a list of his family's assets and it is correct," the spokesman said. "However, there is no connection between Arkadi Gaydamak and Portsmouth Football Club, which his son owns."

 

The report has, however, prompted the Premier League to ask Portsmouth to confirm who owns the club. It follows the revelation by this newspaper's Digger column that the league asked the government a year ago for help in discovering who was really behind some of its clubs. Several, like Portsmouth, are owned via companies registered in offshore tax havens, where shareholders can remain anonymous. "In light of recent media reports from Israel," a Premier League spokesman said, "we shall be seeking further clarification from Portsmouth FC in regard to the identity of their beneficial owner."

 

At the time of the 2006 takeover Portsmouth are understood to have supplied the Premier League with documents demonstrating to the league's satisfaction that Sacha, not his father, was the new owner. Portsmouth's spokesman said the club would comply with the latest request and that the report in Israel had given no cause for concern. "We are happy to provide the Premier League with all documentation," he said. "It will show that Alexandre Gaydamak is still the 100% owner of the club and nothing has changed."

owned by a gangster, run by a gangster, managed by a ****!
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The murky pompy ownership, arabs buying Man C, squabbling Yanks at Liverpuddle, a russian spiv at Chelski, Newcastle, West Ham.... What a mess, and people still call it 'English Football'. Saints fans desparately wanting a 100% buyout because in the end all people care about is their team getting results and if that means turning out a field full of foreign stars, so be it. I want Saints winning matches like anyone else, but I can see apoint at which I just won't bother to turn up any more if there is no player on the field that I can relate to the City, Hampshire, or the club. The pompy experience suggests that having a so-called billionaire owner is still no guarantee of staying in the Prem indefinitely, in fact 3 teams will come down this year, however rich the owners are.

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The murky pompy ownership, arabs buying Man C, squabbling Yanks at Liverpuddle, a russian spiv at Chelski, Newcastle, West Ham.... What a mess, and people still call it 'English Football'. Saints fans desparately wanting a 100% buyout because in the end all people care about is their team getting results and if that means turning out a field full of foreign stars, so be it. I want Saints winning matches like anyone else, but I can see apoint at which I just won't bother to turn up any more if there is no player on the field that I can relate to the City, Hampshire, or the club. The pompy experience suggests that having a so-called billionaire owner is still no guarantee of staying in the Prem indefinitely, in fact 3 teams will come down this year, however rich the owners are.

 

Yep, looking pretty bleak for Spurs & Man U have got to be in turmoil on their fans forums with both clubs facing up to a season long relegation battle.

 

Bet Hull are already looking up to see where their nearest low-cost airline hub is to help them get to all their Champions league matches next year. Will they sack Phil Brown if they only qualify for the UEFA Cup?

 

And what about the sk8te fans, surely they must be up in arms demanding changes at the top and a lack of ambition for becoming a feeder club and only being able to pick up low cost cast-offs

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