Saints V Swindon - Post Match Reaction

[Dannyboy_Saint]

Strange sort of game. Played quite well 1st half, there keeper made some good saves got very lucky at others while the ball never seemed to bounce kindly for us in the box. In the 2nd half we couldn't get the ball off them for 15 minutes and then poor choice of pass gifts them a goal and then they shut up shop. Even then we had 2 or 3 chances to equalise. Just wasn't our night.

[solentstars]

First half we did well, not flying out the traps in recent games but we created chances and Swindon were lucky not to be 1 or even 2 down at the break. Second half a different team came out, one which couldn't complete a pass, left themselves open and felt pumping the ball somewhere near Rickie was the best way to win. Swindon ran the show second half and we created nothing of note (except Rickie's crossbar hit).

 

The fact they had 10 men meant nothing at 1-0, it just means the team goes 4-4-1 and digs in even more.

 

Bad:

Fonte - very poor in comparison to saturday

Jaidi - Seemed sloppy and had rings run around him near the end

James - Impact play? Don't make me laugh, he didn't complete a single cross in 25 minutes

Lallana and Puncheon - Both ran a lot, tried and failed to take on players, losing the ball far too often.

Hammond - Poor with passing

 

The Good:

Lambert still put in 100%

The traffic was pretty quiet after the game

 

Any lingering hopes of the play-offs have now gone and we can look to Wembley and next season, but Pardew is still the right man for the job.

 

good shout it was just one of those days but i,m glad we still have a club and have always thought next season we will go up under pardaw,and like the side he is building.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Thanks, Andy.

 

Is that a great memory or is there a site with that kind of info?

 

Just looked at my fixture list.

[John B]

I WAN'T SUCCESS NOW!!!

 

I CAN'T WAIT!! I AM THE I-POD INSTANT GRATIFICATION GENERATION AND ONE MINUTE AGO IS TOO LONG FOR ME!!

 

 

Grow up

 

 

With the amount of money spent on new players plus the likes of Lallana Davis Thomas and Schenderlein we would not even be in the play offs at the moment if we had not had lost ten points not a very successful League Campaign.

 

But I have enjoyed the season up to the Cup game against Pompey

[Johnny Shearer]

Just dont know how anyone can say swindon were the better side.

ok we were well below par,too many key players had a poor game but i would give them the first 15mins of the 2nd half thats it.

Dissapointed but can see progress has been made ,AP will be under pressure next season but to slate him now is comical.

 

I thought they were. As Weston said we were too narrow. Punch and Lallana didnt do so well on the crossing, nor did most of the team really.

 

I didnt understand why Lambert kept going out to the wings and then crossing it into the box himself with only Barnard there most of the time.

 

Swindon were sharper than Saints, they put themselves into tackles and just seemed more up for it. I noticed that they defended quite high up the pitch and only dropped back when Papa came on - maybe he should have been bought on earlier to run at their defenders.

 

Yes we had chances but we didnt take them especially with a couple of goal mouth scrambles.

 

Generally Saints played poorly until around the 70th minute.

[docker-p]

Thought Swindon played very well, and stood up to a lot of pressure. This is what -10 points and bad starts don't allow for. Season over. Let's enjoy the rest of it.

Nail on head. Swindon were one of the best sides I've seen at SMS this season. And when you have a bad start and then you screw up against Wycombe, Tranmere etc etc there's no wriggle room.

[maysie]

Oh my god. How can people still be trotting this crap out?

 

Maybe because its their opinion you Nazi

[Gordon Mockles]

Poor game. Puncheon had his worst game, looked petulant & only managed decent delivery on half of his crosses. Lallana really poor (can't shoot for toffee & his heading was woeful). Lambert even gave it away, very unlike him. Hammond non existent. Surprised but pleased Pardew had the b*llocks to take his captain off (who took the armband?) We were 2nd best & lacked any bite in midfield, as we have all season.

 

In fairness to Swindon, they outdid us tactically & look the best team we've played at St Mary's this season. Beat us constantly on the air (which shouldn't happen with our height & aerial strength) but sooooo has the rub of the green. They even swiped an across field ball, from left back, straight through a congested midfield, to land straight at the feet of the right winger. So flukey! The ball eve backspun along their touchline when it would have been our corner & fell for their defender to hoof clear, unbelievable. We could have played another hour & wouldn't have scored. Lambert hit the bar. If that were them, it would have been underside & in. How many goal line clearances?!

 

Positive - Connolly looked sharp (about the only one!) Hope he stays fit for the JPT final.

 

I wanted revenge so badly after the worst away game I've witnessed as a Saints fan. I really hate Swindon, for many reasons. What w*nker, gobby, backward fans too. I dunno what they had to shout about, have you ever been to Swindon? Half of their fans by the segregation netting weren't interested in the match, more up for goading the home fans throughout the match (each to their own). Morons! Not normally one for sour grapes but least they had a red card & I hope they get d*cked in the play offs. T*ssers!

Edited 16 March, 2010 by Gordon Mockles

[maysie]

That was awful. We looked like we just didn't care. No-one put any effort in whatsoever.

 

Lambert, Spiderman, Puncheon, Hammond were all awful and had their worst games for us. When you have 4 key players off the ball, it's not good. Jaidi & Fonte were awful with their distribution all game.

 

Puncheon was bad, really bad. Lallana wasn't much better. A bad day for us, and all but ends any glimmer we had of the play offs.

 

Their goal did look offside to me - Can anyone confirm this? Swindon didn't look special, and after getting the goal were more then happy to sit back and protect the lead. They won't go up however.

 

Really? I thought they were one of the best teams I've seen down here this season

[Plumstead_Saint]

What a pity after playing so well Saturday.

I think AP needs to be getting us in top 2 by October and if he hasn't done that with Leeds, Norwich et al gone then I then can't defend him any longer. I like the players he has brought in and how he comes across so I want him to succeed.

Sums it up for me.

Roll on Saturday.

 

PS Swindon's badge has the date 1879 - can their club really be older than ours?

[positivepete]

Swindon came with a plan and executed it well. That happens sometimes. I am sure next season more teams will be prepared for us, we just have to break them down and have a little luck. Tonight we did not get the breaks.

At least this time against Swindon we made some early substitutions and gave it a go. I doubt if any other teams will do the double over us this season, or next come to that.

[1976_Child]

With the amount of money spent on new players plus the likes of Lallana Davis Thomas and Schenderlein we would not even be in the play offs at the moment if we had not had lost ten points not a very successful League Campaign.

 

But I have enjoyed the season up to the Cup game against Pompey

 

So ****ing what? Are you such a dumb-arse ignoramus that you honestly belief that money buys success? For ****s sake. One would have thought that the cretinous wage bill of last season would have put paid to such idiotic assumptions.

 

Are you a youngster? A student?

MONEY, BY AND OF ITSELF, DOES NOT BUY ANYTHING.

 

Only sweat, tears and passion buys success. Not money.

[Scoobysaint]

I thought we were as poor tonight as we have been impressive in the previous few home games. Fair play to Swindon who came and worked hard to give us no time. Maybe after the Leeds second half they realised they had to get up us.

Not too many positives really. Think we missed Ostemobor making the overlapping runs to take one of the covering defenders away from Puncheon. The width was non-existent tonight and when it did go wide the quality of crossing was very disappointing. Puncheons corners were mostly dreadful and our training ground set piece was sadly comical! I also felt that we resorted to the hoof ball up front far too early.

Final point, I was amazed at how poor Lloyd James was when he came on. Every time he took a touch and almost waited for the defender to shut him down. His striking through the ball was terrible resulting in skewed or low trajectory crosses.

Just glad we've at leat got the JPT to look forward to.

[maysie]

Basically we were outplayed today.

 

If we had scored in the first half I think it may have been a different story. A few of our players had off days - Puncheon in particular (undoubted ability but don't think he has the graft in his game when the chips are down).

 

I thought Swindon were impressive, good passing and moving at times and looked solid at the back.

 

It wasn't that we played particularly bad or the players didn't work hard, it was just that we came up against a good side, who tactically got it spot on IMHO. I know we have spent loads and they have got the funds for their players from selling a donkey or whatever, but that football and its hard to take but that the way it is.

 

I went to the Swindon game away and honestly thought after that we were in with a big danger of getting relegated this year. Although I'm annoyed and frustrated after tonight, I am not feeling suicidal after I did at the away game!

[doddisalegend]

Right this was my first time at seeing a few of our new signings. I think what was clear to me is we spent to much on them they aren't very good. I can't remember seeing so many wayward passes, mis-kicks, poor headers and hospital passes in one game, not one player in a saints shirt looked good tonight.

 

I don't blame AP for this he put out our strongest avaliable eleven, and they let him down. They where slow, second to every loose ball and gave it away cheaply. Puncheon was shocking, Lambert won two headers all night, Barnard run around alot, Lallana was invisible, Thomas couldn't kick straight, Morgan average, Hammond dis-interested, Fonte ok, Jahadi ok, Davis awful kicking, Harding......

 

AP tried to change it up with his subs but they weren't any better, If some of these players really want to play at a higher level they need to play well all the time not just when they feel in the mood.

[Eaststander]

FWIW, my 2p worth....

 

We went in to a panic in 2ndH having not forced a goal in the 1st H. As supporters we expect our players to be cleverer than they appeared tonight. We do, as supporters, set high standards, and quite rightly so. The players need to think for themselves on the pitch too. They have to work it out quicker if plan A isn't working.

 

Having said that I thought RL was carrying a dead leg or similar tonight. There was a point in the second half where I thought he was going off, not LB.

 

Right back was an issue too tonight the "headless chicken ballboy" Thomas, or the lacking match practice James. Meaning that Adam got no quality overlapping support. Thought the CB pairing was too good, and they too got complacent, cause they know it.

 

For me the centre midfield didn't win the 2nd ball in the 2nd half, and Punch too predictable.

 

Lots to work on, which is good for AP and band of merry men , it means they still have jobs to do. Rome was not built in a day, and all that.

 

I still left with smile on my face as it could have been a lot lot worse, both this season and tonight. I took my two proud Saints supporting boys, no better feeling as a dad. Apart from getting a win of course.

[positivepete]

Not making excuses for James, as I am sure he will be gutted himself with his display, but he looked rusty and to be fair there was a distinct lack of movement when he had the ball. Swindon worked very hard and closed down all night, as Wycombe did a couple of weeks ago. This often makes the player with the ball look worse than they deserve.

[saint_stevo]

Where was Billy Paynter?

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Only sweat, tears and passion buys success. Not money.

 

Not strictly true is it ?

[Tractor_Saint]

Swindon came with a fantastic game plan to really stifle our usual free flowing game. I hope none of our opponents left to play look at this game as it'll give the secrets away! We did have quite a few chances (a few vids attached at the bottom if interested). Barnard was definitely offside but Lamberts 2nd half strike that hit the crossbar had oooooodles of space the other side of the keeper had it gone there - knew at that point it was going to be one of those nights.

 

KD had a shocker - no way his fault the goal but he had huge butter fingers throughout. Heard he got to the changing rooms and threw his head in his hands... and missed (sorry, couldn't resist).

 

Why James? ffs, I would have thought he'd have had some crossing practice with his time off but, no.

 

Great to see Connolly back and he really fought for the ball which is what we needed to do across the pitch. Too much standing back and letting Swindon play.

 

Harding had another good game. Thomas was also pretty solid and loved the way he kept having a dig at the guy he was marking. Every opportunity, a nudge here, a push there.

 

Finally - tossers on the roads tonight, big silver 4x4 - licence plate something like CIS 1M (more apt would have been GIS 1M) - wouldn't let me in to a huge lot of queuing traffic so I had to have my two penneth after getting out of the car about how much queue he must have jumped by nearly taking off my front wing. We can only assume he and his missus were in Corporate and not used to having to 'queue' in traffic. Got me wound up even more !!

 

Vids for now:

 

 

 

Edited 16 March, 2010 by Tractor_Saint

[Saint Fan CaM]

Davis, James, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Puncheon and Lambert had an awful game. Fonte was quite poor by his standards too. In fact I never want to see James in a Saints shirt again - he really is too slow in his decision making, running and crossing.

 

Fact is, Swindon had us in their pocket tonight - they ran their socks off, fought for every 1st and 2nd ball and kept their cool until they scored. Their passing technique and off-ball movement was way, way better than ours. And we for some unknown reason kept resorting to hoof to Rickie, which was not working because he was marked out of the game and latterly got injured.

 

We'll never win every game. Not this season and not next season. But we're winning enough at the moment for us to be close to top 2 form. For me, for now that's good enough. The essential issues are winning the JPT, keep winning as many games this season as possible and keeping the 1st team squad together over the summer. Get rid of the dross in the squad and get some decent replacements in.

[St Landrew]

Andy - were you there?

 

You must be if you say you thought Swindon played very well unless you were basing your opinion on radio commentary? Surely not.

 

Duncan, of course it is based on the radio commentary, and on the live match data provided by the BBC Football website. I can work things out from the data and the commentary, otherwise I wouldn't be making the comments..?

 

You can play the were-you-there card all you like. I am entitled to my opinion. I have to pay for my ticket, when I can afford it, and I prefer to pay my bills and mortgage.

[S-Clarke]

Where was Billy Paynter?

 

injured, as were a number of their first choice players.

[Saint Samuel]

This is a very bad night, I went to school with Charlie Austin, he's one of the most unpleasant individuals I've ever met, so arrogant, always gives it the big I am, had to put up with him for five years, such a tosser, why do the most undeserving people get success? He goes and scores the winner against us tonight, makes me sick.

 

Personal feelings aside, we were poor tonight and just didn't look interested. We put out our strongest eleven, but there just didn't seem to be any commitment there at all, looked strong in the first half, but outplayed in the second half, hope AP slated the team in the dressing room after the game. Can't help but feel that tonight our slim play off hopes have come to an end, the rest of the League One season seems irrelevant now.

[Amesbury Saint]

our crosses tonight were generally dreadful

 

very disappointed

[Smirking_Saint]

I WAN'T SUCCESS NOW!!!

 

I CAN'T WAIT!! I AM THE I-POD INSTANT GRATIFICATION GENERATION AND ONE MINUTE AGO IS TOO LONG FOR ME!!

 

 

Grow up

 

So, i'll ask a question, who really is worse than a negative ??? Hmm ??

 

I'll tell you, it's posters like you, posters that pretend to take the moral high ground by being the ever optimists, and slamming any of the more realistic opinions (or in your world negative).

 

I am guessing you have never been a business man ?? Or never been in any sort of management capacity ?? For your tenure in that capacity would be a short one, i agree, on one side of the coin is the instant success group, but the other is the RTG group, thinking all is rosy and living in their high ivory towers as the business slowly becomes less and less competetive.

 

It was like this for the past few seasons at saints under the Lowe era, and i for one never wish to be back there any time soon. Even when we entered into what we believed to be a time at which we were on the up, a cup final and europe a lack of ambition coincided with a brief stint against Steuea and a slow decline to the lowly position we found ourselves in at the end of last season.

 

I thought we could have made the playoffs, or at least be in a position to say if we were there or there abouts at the end of the season it would be ok, but it has not happened, we have not been competetive enough.

 

I am not calling for pardews head, quite the opposite, i think he has built a good squad and next year, IF we become consistant and play to the level we SHOULD be then i will be very happy.

 

And btw, i have been to many a game this year, and will be at Wembley so don't start spouting that crap. I have enjoyed some games this season and yes it is much better than the dross last year, but we still should have been more competetive than we have been.

 

So instead of slamming my opinion as meerly negative, how about getting over yourself and start to believe in what we have here, i don't want to stay at this level being sneered at by pompey and reading fans, we need to get back to where we belong, and i am thankful Cortese has not got your ear because clearly we would not be seing many Wembley visits nor a march back to the premiership.

 

So no, i don't want instant success necerssarily, but i will not settle for second place, that is not me, and if that is you then ok but i prefer to aim a little higher in my ambitions.

 

So sorry if that is apparantly negative, but TBH, i would argue the fact that being happy with 2nd place is actually the negative viewpoint.

 

(sorry about the long post)

[saint_stevo]

cba, smirker. cba

[Kingsland Red]

Thomas was poor and too may attacks broke down when he got the ball. James crosses from far too deep - same old.

Punscheon and Lallana were either off the pace or well marshalled,Hammond and Barnard were lacking their usual energy . Otherwise I thought Saints were OK against a spritely Swindon team and if the shots against the bar and post had gone in then who knows....

 

Next season is the promotion push now so let's enjoy the rest of this one in the mid table obscurity we craved last October.

[Turkish]

Right this was my first time at seeing a few of our new signings. I think what was clear to me is we spent to much on them they aren't very good. I can't remember seeing so many wayward passes, mis-kicks, poor headers and hospital passes in one game, not one player in a saints shirt looked good tonight.

QUOTE]

 

are you for real?

Fonte, head and shoulders above any other CB in this league, he's at a least championship standard player

Puncheon- class act, not good tonight admittedly but he's been excellent since he's joined us

Barnard, didn't play all that well tonight, but is on 5 (?) goals in about 7 games, is not bad return

 

The other two didn't play but i've been inpressed with Otsemebor and Seabourne is young and will improve, he'll learn a lot from Jaidi.

 

There were a number of players not quite at it tonight and didn't reach the levels of Leeds, huddersfield or Norwich but no player can be an 8 or 9 out of 10 every game, I dont know how you can say the new signings are not very good!

[saint_stevo]

Still not convinced next season will be any different. Pretty much going to be the same personnel as we have currently surely? What exactly is going to change?

 

We need pace in the side. We need to turn defences. We don't.

[saint_stevo]

Right this was my first time at seeing a few of our new signings. I think what was clear to me is we spent to much on them they aren't very good. I can't remember seeing so many wayward passes, mis-kicks, poor headers and hospital passes in one game, not one player in a saints shirt looked good tonight.

QUOTE]

 

are you for real?

Fonte, head and shoulders above any other CB in this league, he's at a least championship standard player

Puncheon- class act, not good tonight admittedly but he's been excellent since he's joined us

Barnard, didn't play all that well tonight, but is on 5 (?) goals in about 7 games, is not bad return

 

The other two didn't play but i've been inpressed with Otsemebor and Seabourne is young and will improve, he'll learn a lot from Jaidi.

 

There were a number of players not quite at it tonight and didn't reach the levels of Leeds, huddersfield or Norwich but no player can be an 8 or 9 out of 10 every game, I dont know how you can say the new signings are not very good!

 

Because, as he mentioned, it was the first time he had seen the new boys play tonight and he will judge as he sees rather than as he hears?

[Tractor_Saint]

expect i will be called a troll etc but i was there so here goes.......all over then first half, didnt take our chances and let need by swindon missing the best chance of the half. Second half they nullified our main threat in puncheon, and our one dimensional approach of 'lump it at lambert' was easily dealt with by the swindon back 4. Our team is crying out for some pace. Very poor 2nd half.

 

For once, even though I don't quite understand the second(ish) sentence, I agree with something Saint_Stevo has said! First half we should have taken the chances we were given, 2nd half was punt and see and we saw and lost.

 

Only thing I'd say is we did have pace in the guise of Papa but he was offside

[saint_stevo]

Praise the lord tractor!

[Tractor_Saint]

Someones attention seeking

 

I'm ignoring his attention seeking

 

No, seriously, I am so stop fscking quoting him

[Smirking_Saint]

I'm ignoring his attention seeking

 

No, seriously, I am so stop fscking quoting him

 

Lol

[saint_stevo]

Fairly similar to Leeds game thinking about it...........

 

Good first half, on top, creating chances etc

 

Second half, much less potent, little in terms of creating chances etc.

 

Just that Leeds were utter toilet.

[1976_Child]

I am guessing you have never been a business man ?? Or never been in any sort of management capacity ??

 

I am, and I manage my own company.

 

And if I look at one crappy month's figures and decide I should sack my operations manager I would be an idiot.

 

Riding out the tough years/months/games is absolutely central to success in the future years. And having my ops manager learn from his/our mistakes is exactly what makes us stronger.

 

Want an MBA? go study in a closeted environment. Want to know what is real success rather than pseudo 'quarterly success'? Look to Mr Liebherr. I bet you all the money in my pocket against all the money in yours that Mr Liebherr will be taking a long term view.

[doddisalegend]

 

Because, as he mentioned, it was the first time he had seen the new boys play tonight and he will judge as he sees rather than as he hears?

 

Well exactly I keep being told how great our new signings are but on tonights performance they are awful. They must have some talent judging by some of our recent results, but they looked average league one players to me.

 

This being the case you have to wonder if they where really worth the money we spent on them? if you spend 1.2 mill on a player you kind of expect him to be able to pass a ball to his own side. How much did we spend on Puncheon what ever it was it seems to much for a winger who doesn't get to the by line to put in crosses, pound for pound I'm more impressed by Antonio. Still i'm going up to MK Dons on saturday so we will see if I change my mind after that performance.

Edited 16 March, 2010 by doddisalegend

[saint_stevo]

Cortese is Chairman

[Saint_clark]

*sigh*

 

 

That's all.

Bring on the Dons.

[obelisk]

Strange really. By half time Saints could have been out of sight even with those Swindon geezers working pretty hard. Their only real chance in that half came when Austin missed a sitter.

 

Second half the game turned on its head as Swindon decided to pass the ball and take the game to Saints. Perhaps they reckoned our boys were a bunch of fancy dans that couldn't take the pressure but they certainly had Saints lads chasing shadows for a while there although they really didn't create too much in front of goal.

 

I really think the pressure got to Saints in the end and it was only when they gave up on the hoofball and tried to get the ball wide that any progress was noticed towards the end, despite the feeble crossing efforts of James.

 

Ok so we now have a Wembley trip to look forward to but that isn't going to be a walk in the park. After that the season will drift to a close and then we have to hope we don't lose too many in the transfer window.

 

As for next season, I'm not sure why so many think Saints will walk the league. On present evidence it might be a struggle to make the playoffs. Still at least the football is better than last season.

[Jimmy_D]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8558198.stm

 

The report and the stats say it was an even game slightly in our favour, which was pretty much how it looked to me as well.

 

Swindon had done their homework and it could have gone either way. Bit gutting that it snuffs out our play off hopes but I'm not gonna be losing any sleep over it, especially with still having Wembley to look forward to.

[John Boy Saint]

Swindon certainly lived up to the hype league table position gave them; Danny Wilson has them playing nicely as a unit. 1st half we were getting the rub of the green with a few balls. Second Half it was like Arsenal playing Bolton or Stoke, Swindon harried us and wanted the ball that just alluded them in the first half so basically shut down our passing (or any) game.

 

Lloyd James looked very match unfit which is a shame as when he was fit previously he was our most consistently effective crosser of the ball. Someone should have told Puncheon after 75 minutes that he was not going to bludgeon his way through and as when he received the ball he was quickly surrounded by 3 players he should have exploited that fact and laid it off quicker. Adam Lallana certainly puts in a shift but I do wish that he would stop the 'Cul-de-Sac Fernandes impersonations and buy a bloody ticket for the raffle its like he fears that he would be fined if takes a shot.

 

A few negative comments about Spiderman on here tonight, I thought that he put in yet another solid performance, it would be interesting to see how many miles he has clocked up in recent games: he must be top or very near if a table was produced. I also think that Hammond is carrying a niggle as Spiderman seemed to be covering for him.

 

Very frustrating, but on the drive home we did say that at least this season we are not looking for the Razor blade, rope, and rickety stool shop as we head out of the City.

 

Beaten by a well organised team who did exactly what their manager wanted them to do.

[Tractor_Saint]

Fairly similar to Leeds game thinking about it...........

 

Good first half, on top, creating chances etc

 

Second half, much less potent, little in terms of creating chances etc.

 

Just that Leeds were utter toilet.

 

No, no, not two posts in a row where I agree with Saint Stevo. Is it because I'm coming of age or is it because of a very nice bottle of Merlot tonight?

 

However, (again, have to say something apart from agreeing with him otherwise he might have my love children), I think we did against Leeds what Swindon did against us. We stopped Leeds playing their usual game.

 

Leeds game, we were chasing every ball, making sure if a Leeds player had to control the ball before passing we were on top of them and making them pass quickly and make mistakes. Today, it was the opposite. Not sure whether it was the fact that we didn't bring it to them and challenge every ball and we just sat back, or whether it was Swindon just knowing how to break that down and keep control of the ball. Very very frustrating but fair play to Swindon - they played a very good game tonight.

[Smirking_Saint]

I am, and I manage my own company.

 

And if I look at one crappy month's figures and decide I should sack my operations manager I would be an idiot.

 

Riding out the tough years/months/games is absolutely central to success in the future years. And having my ops manager learn from his/our mistakes is exactly what makes us stronger.

 

Want an MBA? go study in a closeted environment. Want to know what is real success rather than pseudo 'quarterly success'? Look to Mr Liebherr. I bet you all the money in my pocket against all the money in yours that Mr Liebherr will be taking a long term view.

 

And i bet you all the money in your pocket that football is a totally different animal to a normal business environment and one that acts under an entirely shorter timescale.

 

A bad season can equate to millions of lost turnover, so my question is that having spent a large amount of money and agreeing that his main KPI was to i don't know, in business terms secure a major customer and so a major source of income, and due to a lot of inconsitancies you lost out, would you not begin to question his position ?? I know i would.

 

Yes Leibherr may be taking a long term view, but if he is any sort of business man or has any sort of business acumen he would have certain performance indicators along the way, and if they are not met than changes would be made to ensure that long term goal.

 

Like i said, i don't want to see the back of Pardew but i am not too blind to see this season is a dissapointment, and responded to what was IMO a pretty pathetic post.

[Tractor_Saint]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8558198.stm

 

The report and the stats say it was an even game slightly in our favour, which was pretty much how it looked to me as well.

 

Swindon had done their homework and it could have gone either way. Bit gutting that it snuffs out our play off hopes but I'm not gonna be losing any sleep over it, especially with still having Wembley to look forward to.

 

Just read that and it reminded me, their keeper was really rather good and a hellava lot better than KD today. If you think about the final 10 mins or so he made a few good saves similar to those that KD spilled today....

 

BRING BACK BART! tbh, why not? We're not getting promoted this season. We're not going to be relegated (Stevo, please don't bite) so let's get ready for next season and make sure all of our first team and reserves are ready for the year ahead. If we lost Lambert and Barnard now what would we be like?

[saint_stevo]

Just read that and it reminded me, their keeper was really rather good and a hellava lot better than KD today. If you think about the final 10 mins or so he made a few good saves similar to those that KD spilled today....

 

BRING BACK BART! tbh, why not? We're not getting promoted this season. We're not going to be relegated (Stevo, please don't bite) so let's get ready for next season and make sure all of our first team and reserves are ready for the year ahead. If we lost Lambert and Barnard now what would we be like?

 

Bite me?

 

I reckon 10th this season.

 

Night all. Sweet dreams Tractor........

[the great escape]

Cant help but think the fact most of the saints team was out on the p*ss sat night had an impact on the slow fatigued performance esp in the last 30 mins....

[1976_Child]

And i bet you all the money in your pocket that football is a totally different animal to a normal business environment and one that acts under an entirely shorter timescale.

 

A bad season can equate to millions of lost turnover, so my question is that having spent a large amount of money and agreeing that his main KPI was to i don't know, in business terms secure a major customer and so a major source of income, and due to a lot of inconsitancies you lost out, would you not begin to question his position ?? I know i would.

 

Yes Leibherr may be taking a long term view, but if he is any sort of business man or has any sort of business acumen he would have certain performance indicators along the way, and if they are not met than changes would be made to ensure that long term goal.

 

Like i said, i don't want to see the back of Pardew but i am not too blind to see this season is a dissapointment, and responded to what was IMO a pretty pathetic post.

 

Give over, for heck's sake. Pardew has had six weeks to work with the full squad of his choice. No one but Unite would expect 'jobs for life' and I ain't arguing for that and you know full well. You also know that success is built, not 'won'. Too many youngsters these days think that success is instant. It ain't. Success only comes after defeat. Only. You have to be defeated before you can taste what success is not, and thus crave success the more.

 

Good night!

[St Marco]

Could not really do anymore then we did. Hit the bar i think twice, post twice, Morgan had a shot cleared off the line and so did someone else. Just one of those days, nothing more.

They took one of their chances, we didn't. That is football.

 

I will enjoy a day out at wembley and then start looking forward to next season.