mightysaints Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I have watched Saints for 35 years and have witnessed some poor ref decisions but that was quite honestly the worst ref i have ever seen. He was consistantly poor from the moment he stated the game.
exit2 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I was saying the same thing! But only 26yrs for me!
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I have watched Saints for 35 years and have witnessed some poor ref decisions but that was quite honestly the worst ref i have ever seen. He was consistantly poor from the moment he stated the game. Didnt go to Tranmere then ?
exit2 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Didnt go to Tranmere then ? Didnt got to Leeds today then
mightysaints Posted 13 March, 2010 Author Posted 13 March, 2010 Thank god his mistakes did not effedct the result. Still cannot fathom how he gave a free kick when i thought we had scored a 2nd, if anything it should have been a pen to us. Quite frankly he was shocking.
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Didnt got to Leeds today then You've completely missed the point of what I was saying. As if I would dig at peoples attendances (apart from people in Currently Maidstone)
mightysaints Posted 13 March, 2010 Author Posted 13 March, 2010 I see the Echo gave the ref a 3 for tranny, would like to see what they give for this one.
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 wasn't that bad.......few wrong decisions possibly, but that's the same of any match. Fonte was fouling the defender for our 'second' btw
exit2 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 You've completely missed the point of what I was saying. As if I would dig at peoples attendances (apart from people in Currently Maidstone) Alps it wasnt a dig hence the smiley face. The ref for us against Tranmere was 10 times better than today
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Alps it wasnt a dig hence the smiley face. The ref for us against Tranmere was 10 times better than today Christ, that bad ?
The Majestic Channon Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Was he as bad as Roger the perm milford???
exit2 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 wasn't that bad.......few wrong decisions possibly, but that's the same of any match. your having a laugh arent you. The ref was a friggin disaster
Give it to Ron Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 wasn't that bad.......few wrong decisions possibly, but that's the same of any match. Fonte was fouling the defender for our 'second' btw Do you honestly believe that or are you posting for a reaction?
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Do you honestly believe that or are you posting for a reaction? My honest belief, yeah he got a few wrong, but Hammond could have been sent off towards the end. Maybe a couple of ball to hand incidents that COULD have gone for us. The only big one was maybe Barnard getting felled by the last defender but looked like an accident/tangle of legs to me
Huffton Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Christ, that bad ? Worse. I know this gets trotted out most weeks, but he was the worst I have seen, he was actually worse than Roger Milford. I mean my God, to come away with a win and STILL be moaning about the ref, what does that tell you?
norwaysaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I don't know how Fonte could have fouled their defender from the headlock he was in?
markr27 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 He's a Premiership referee you know...... Quite how he failed to send Gradel off for lumping Harding I'll never know - did he even book him? (some around were convinced he booked Harding?)
Coastal Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 That was the most blatant Penalty I have ever seen. I assumed he had played on to allow the goal. He had Fonte's head gripped under his arm for f' sake.
Give it to Ron Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 My honest belief, yeah he got a few wrong, but Hammond could have been sent off towards the end. Maybe a couple of ball to hand incidents that COULD have gone for us. The only big one was maybe Barnard getting felled by the last defender but looked like an accident/tangle of legs to me Well you need to go to Specsavers....so why is it ok for Leeds defenders to be all over Lambert and Barnard yet as soon as Jaidi, Thomas, Fonte and Harding got anywhere within 5 yards it was a Leeds free-kick. Why would Barnard go down when through on goal? On several occasions the linesman was about 3 yards away never flagged but he can see a free-kick against us from 40 yards? He was atrocious! You are the only one posting on here and on the match thread to think otherwise. I have referee'd many games over the years so know how difficult it is and I try to give them the benefit of the doubt - this fool was totally incompetant .
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Well you need to go to Specsavers....so why is it ok for Leeds defenders to be all over Lambert and Barnard yet as soon as Jaidi, Thomas, Fonte and Harding got anywhere within 5 yards it was a Leeds free-kick. Why would Barnard go down when through on goal? On several occasions the linesman was about 3 yards away never flagged but he can see a free-kick against us from 40 yards? He was atrocious! You are the only one posting on here and on the match thread to think otherwise. I have referee'd many games over the years so know how difficult it is and I try to give them the benefit of the doubt - this fool was totally incompetant . Barnard was clipped, but thought it looked a bit like barnard running accross the defender and getting accidently taken down, the defender couldnt have got out the way IMO. He wasn't good, but he wasn't THAT bad i didn't think. A few decisions went against us, or didnt go for us, but build a bridge, get over it, we won.
Golden Balls Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 wasn't that bad.......few wrong decisions possibly, but that's the same of any match. Fonte was fouling the defender for our 'second' btw I'm sorry, but with respect, you're wrong! It was right infront of me and Fonte was being fouled. How a free kick was given the other way was unbelieveable! Also, the Barnard one was quite clearly a tug. He bottled it as it was the last man meaning it would have to be a red card. And just before that there was the shove in the back of Puncheon as he was about to control the ball. AP went mental about that! The incident with Harding was a joke. He booked the player meaning he saw what happened. And what happened was violent conduct. Therefore, red card. You can't just book him because he didn't cause any damage from lashing out. Seems he would have only sent him off if he knocked him out! I've been going 19 years and that is the worst ref I have ever seen. Don't think I've ever heard such loud and constant chants about a ref before either.
S-Clarke Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 worst ref. for a long long time, in the first half you had to wonder if he'd been plucked out of the street or something. 2nd half he improved a bit (not hard...!) but he really did have a stinker today, no getting away from that. glad it didn't cost us!
spyinthesky Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Agree that the Ref was consistently poor However will give him crdit for not being taken in by the Beckford dive at 0-0 Some Refs would have been
exit2 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 i was pretty hungover today tbf Dont worry I think the ref was too!
S-Clarke Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 However will give him crdit for not being taken in by the Beckford dive at 0-0 Some Refs would have been that should have won an oscar.
TheSaint75 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 My honest belief, yeah he got a few wrong, but Hammond could have been sent off towards the end. Maybe a couple of ball to hand incidents that COULD have gone for us. The only big one was maybe Barnard getting felled by the last defender but looked like an accident/tangle of legs to me You must be posting for a reaction......go on admit it. Hammond should have been sent off??? Gradel should have gone Fonte fouling thier man??? What, by holding the mans arm with his neck
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 You must be posting for a reaction......go on admit it. Hammond should have been sent off??? Gradel should have gone Fonte fouling thier man??? What, by holding the mans arm with his neck Hammond was on a booking and then went through the back of the Leeds player, the ref waved play on but went back and had a word after. Well before that corner was taken, the ref had a word about shirt pulling etc, then when the corner came over, they both had a lump of each others shirts, and i honestly thought Fonte was fouling the defender, hence why he missed the header at the near post.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Agree that the Ref was consistently poor However will give him crdit for not being taken in by the Beckford dive at 0-0 Some Refs would have been Can't really give him too much credit because if he agreed it was a dive he should have booked him.
countysaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Was he as bad as Roger the perm milford??? Are you thinking about the FA cup match against Oldham at the Dell where he just played till Oldham equalised? I thought then I would never see such a bad ref but today "Les Battersby lookalike" Peter Walton takes the award!
countysaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Hammond was on a booking and then went through the back of the Leeds player, the ref waved play on but went back and had a word after. Well before that corner was taken, the ref had a word about shirt pulling etc, then when the corner came over, they both had a lump of each others shirts, and i honestly thought Fonte was fouling the defender, hence why he missed the header at the near post. You had a link to the refs conversations, did you?
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 You had a link to the refs conversations, did you? etc.......nice highlight, missing out the important bit
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 A truly bizarre refereeing performance , I can't remember St Marys ever being quite so collectively angry with a match official . At times he was so one sided you started to go beyond questioning Peter Walton's competence and started to wonder about his integrity - perish the thought .
Saint Billy Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 i was pretty hungover today tbf Hungover.............! Are you sure you were'nt unconscious. I was not at the game but I heard 30,000 people on the radio giving what can only be described as one of the biggest negative reactions to a ref I have ever heard as the players were coming off at half time.
scotty Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I see the Echo gave the ref a 3 for tranny, would like to see what they give for this one. the echo can f*ck right off.
Andy_Porter Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 The Ref at Tranmere was a million times worse than today.
saint_stevo Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Hungover.............! Are you sure you were'nt unconscious. I was not at the game but I heard 30,000 people on the radio giving what can only be described as one of the biggest negative reactions to a ref I have ever heard as the players were coming off at half time. Then i don't want to hear it
John B Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I have watched Saints for 35 years and have witnessed some poor ref decisions but that was quite honestly the worst ref i have ever seen. He was consistantly poor from the moment he stated the game. Just spoke to my brother who said the same thing although in his case 48 years
saintwarwick Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 i was pretty hungover today tbf Thats pretty obvious from your posts, next time go to a game sober and then make a few proper observations, the ref had a stinker today and that is being generous.
voteforpedro Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 I was listening to the Leeds commentry and at one point they said they we're embarrassed by how bad he was. They seemed to agree with the crowd, that the ref was clearly giving Leeds decisions which he wasn't giving to Saints.
Deanovski Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 i was pretty hungover today tbf no excuse,man up.
saintwarwick Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 The Ref at Tranmere was a million times worse than today. Are you saying todays ref was good? Didn't go to Tranmere but the ref today was diabolical don't you agree?
Jonnyboy Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Can't really give him too much credit because if he agreed it was a dive he should have booked him. too right
Saint_clark Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Honestly the worst performance i've seen from a ref, just staggering really.
tttdcs Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 wasn't that bad.......few wrong decisions possibly, but that's the same of any match. Fonte was fouling the defender for our 'second' btw I assume you mean while in a full head lock ?
Saint_lambden Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Absoloutly unbelievable display from the Ref. How Gradel was not sent off for what can only be described as an assault on Harding is beyond me. Then Hammond was booked for basically nothing on 80 mins- how can those two incidents have the same punishment?!!! Thank god he didn't cost us today because in the first half he lost all control of the game.
South City Si Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Absolutley disgraceful, especially for a supposive Prem ref. Here's hint mate: Retire! If Beckford wasn't fouled then it was a dive, book him, TWICE!
Daren W Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 A really good game completely ruined by an absolute dog of a referee... A blatant penalty. Numerous fouls on Harding, Lambert and Barnard. A blatant assault on Harding. A perfectly good goal disallowed.. Quite easily the worst referee I've ever seen...
markr27 Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 Absoloutly unbelievable display from the Ref. How Gradel was not sent off for what can only be described as an assault on Harding is beyond me. Then Hammond was booked for basically nothing on 80 mins- how can those two incidents have the same punishment?!!! Thank god he didn't cost us today because in the first half he lost all control of the game. Was Hammond booked for kicking the ball away, or was that Morgan? I liked it when the ref had a go at Puncheon/Lallana about the time it took to take the corners... Saints can't do much if the left footer plays on the right wing!
Red&White Posted 13 March, 2010 Posted 13 March, 2010 My honest belief, yeah he got a few wrong, but Hammond could have been sent off towards the end. Maybe a couple of ball to hand incidents that COULD have gone for us. The only big one was maybe Barnard getting felled by the last defender but looked like an accident/tangle of legs to me God knows where you were sitting the ref was bloody awful today. I have seen a lot of bad refs but that to55er took the **** !:mad:
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