marc_saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Can't answer about Saints Ladies :-) will look into it Two of the saints ladies team works for me! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Would point out that he didn't actually answer my question on how we are funded. Will continue to worry a little about that and worry another day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Would point out that he didn't actually answer my question on how we are funded. Will continue to worry a little about that and worry another day Think he did, as he said ML had been told an amount he will need to spend for the 5 year period which he agreed and thereafter self sustainable, I think that was what he was saying. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Would point out that he didn't actually answer my question on how we are funded. Will continue to worry a little about that and worry another day Thought he stated that we were completely funded by Markus and it was not 'lent' it was 'given' until we were self sustainable. he coupled that answer with it is "nothing like PFC,we are debt free." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Think he did, as he said ML had been told an amount he will need to spend for the 5 year period which he agreed and thereafter self sustainable, I think that was what he was saying. COYS They have a 5 year plan and ML is financing it - not disputed. I asked if he paid in cash or a guarantee for loans the answer was not loans. So 1/3rd answered. Sacha funded poorsmuff by singing bank loan guarantees that is my worry that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 would of preferred it if he said 'me and markus feel strongly that southampton could be the barcelona of english football, in about 5 - 7 years time we want to be competing on a global scale, we are currently in talks with david beckham about being the front man, LA galaxy style to bring in the punters, we are probably gonna keep st marys as a training stadium, similar to barcelona with their two stadia, but we will be building a new 80k seater stadium with complex of cinemas restaurants shops etc, all under the southampton brand... we will have fans in china and japaneese people outside the stadium like old trafford... me and markus want to be in the champ league... thats where we are aiming, we are even considering buying portsmouth and demolishing it just so our fans dont have suffer them anymore and i can be free to pick up a paper and not have to read about them every day of the week ...' .... thats just what i would of preferred him to say ...but i guess what he said was OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Away fans Traditions at SMS is only 8 years. Moving away fans would make sense. Major probem is the policing Long process talked with fan reps survey was surprisingly in favour Paying for staff at the ground parking, much more behind this, he discovered a lot of waste, club has to purchase space on match days. No company's do that, not expecting to renew the leases. 1st time ever been involved with getting staff to work. Academy substantial investment turned completely around. Again did a survey have a plan mission and a vision and finances available. Plan to have possibly the best Academy in country in 5 years time Wants our won scholars gettinginto 1st team this is the plan so the moment we in PL 30/40% of our squad is Academy. It is about the quality of scouts etc Something which I find astounding since almost everyone on here was against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 I thought it was important that there is clarity now. It is a 5yr plan, not a shortened 3yr. The funding is completely through Markus, and it is not about loans, but grants. The lack of time to get up and running was a big problem in the outset. There is no rift or problem with AP. The academy is going to get some real attention. There are big plans for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 I thought it was important that there is clarity now. It is a 5yr plan, not a shortened 3yr. The funding is completely through Markus, and it is not about loans, but grants. The lack of time to get up and running was a big problem in the outset. There is no rift or problem with AP. The academy is going to get some real attention. There are big plans for the future. A good message, pleased to hear a lot of nagging doubts cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony10 Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8565161.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Good to hear that the Academy has had a review too and club will be focusing on it. I've gotten so used to players coming through the ranks, I just hope it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 A good message, pleased to hear a lot of nagging doubts cleared up. Just listening again to Solent's repeat broadcast. I'd forgotten that NC offered to PAY FOR THE STEWARDING AT WEMBLEY STADIUM, so that Saints fans could get as many tickets as they wanted. He suggested that Saints fans alone, could fill Wembley Stadium, without the Carlisle contingent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 What happened to his three year Plan Pardew had fecked up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 That stadium in a different place was brought up by the radio bloke, will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 What happened to his three year Plan Pardew had fecked up? He fecked it up and they had to go back to a five year plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Heard the whole interview online. NC impresses me greatly.[it is very reassuring to hear him say that himself and ML are definately in for the long haul]. Also interesting to hear him say that although we do not need to financially sell any player,if a player wants to move, we as a club will be unlikely to stand in that particular players way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Heard the whole interview online. NC impresses me greatly.[it is very reassuring to hear him say that himself and ML are definately in for the long haul]. Also interesting to hear him say that although we do not need to financially sell any player,if a player wants to move, we as a club will be unlikely to stand in that particular players way. Ah but he also mentioned that we wouldn't let them go cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 What happened to his three year Plan Pardew had fecked up? Basically, it never was a 3yr plan. I must admit, I never read or heard Cortese mention a 3yr plan anywhere before. All I heard about was a 5yr plan, and so it has proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 NC came across extremely well in my opinion - Passionate, Ambitious and (yes) Level headed. We are extremely lucky with the situation we have ended up in, after our fall from the Premier League. Seriously, after what we went through last spring / summer how could we be in a better situation than we are now? (logistically, not talking about dropped points this season...) I feel extremely happy with Saints right now, off for a beer methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancsaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Planning for UEFA. Markus not getting interest no lending agreement. But he didn't answer the actual question re converting to equity or if he simply is a guarantor. Hmm The whole interview was on BBC solent's website before the game with ime (just) to listen to it all. There are no debts or loans relating to ML as far as I can see, all are gifts as such with no liability to SFC. ML will "get it back" when club ever sold, as he is the sole owner of SFC. You cannot owe money to yourself. Mancsaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Basically, it never was a 3yr plan. I must admit, I never read or heard Cortese mention a 3yr plan anywhere before. All I heard about was a 5yr plan, and so it has proved. Agreed, but I think the point came across well that there clearly was a discussion about whether we could make the playoffs IF we spent a lot of money in the Window. the comment about being 11th in the total spending league and at least one of the signings believing it was possible. Corporate Businessman speak about "Targets" led to that idea as well. Still a 5 year plan, would have meant we had more time to consolidate and then build up through the CCC. But no Rift, just disappointment we aren't further ahead than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Can't find it on iplay yet. When is it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 The whole interview was on BBC solent's website before the game with ime (just) to listen to it all. There are no debts or loans relating to ML as far as I can see, all are gifts as such with no liability to SFC. ML will "get it back" when club ever sold, as he is the sole owner of SFC. You cannot owe money to yourself. Mancsaint. I agree. But that is the same situation as Sacha. When he was ready to sell that lot his investment was included in the cost of the club because it was in the form of guaranteed loans. ie no loan agreements with Sacha nad no interest to Sacha either.... IMHO it does now look a lot clearer as I said, No Loan Agreements, no interest. It needs to be as NC said as we HOPEFULLY as I asked in my question will need to meet UEFA regs in 5 or so years time. But I'll not go ranting about it every week it isn't a "Can't play on muddy pitches issue" I just keep it as a I don't think we're doing it the same way as Sacha but until I know for sure I'll keep it in my I'd like to know in box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Basically, it never was a 3yr plan. I must admit, I never read or heard Cortese mention a 3yr plan anywhere before. All I heard about was a 5yr plan, and so it has proved. No sir, that cannot be. There are many posters with friends inside the club who know full well it became a three year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Can't find it on iplay yet. When is it up? I found it on here seemed to be running earlier than anyone else found it from other streams, was really strange, also it was in full all 46 minutes of it yet Solent split it in two parts http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...on/8565161.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 No sir, that cannot be. There are many posters with friends inside the club who know full well it became a three year plan. Oh yes sir, it can. It's that ugly word, called rumour. And that's all it was, whether people thought they were in-the-know, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 I thought it was important that there is clarity now. It is a 5yr plan, not a shortened 3yr. The funding is completely through Markus, and it is not about loans, but grants. The lack of time to get up and running was a big problem in the outset. There is no rift or problem with AP. The academy is going to get some real attention. There are big plans for the future. Although the 5 year plan was reiterated, he specifically said the January purchases were to get into the play off's this year. There is no rift with AP, but he clearly left his options open at this moment in time. I really cannot understand why fans are concerned about the finance. Liebherr has more than enough money and if any loans were to be made, I can't see anyone doing that without securing it against Liebherrs capital. Even so, there is absolutely no difference with all the finance being loaned / given by Liebherr. He can do exactly what he likes with the club or it's assets at any time. The guy is a businessman driving a project, exactly what you would expect from a banker. That said, the football side of things definitely gets to his emotions as other normal projects may not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 The bit I heard made me realise we have a very smart man guiding our club. He like me is keen on the idea of having our own end and the away fans moved. He knows that some will stick their heels in and may not return to watch the club.If we have the crowds back im sure he will be happy to factor in the loss of perhaps a 1000 fans.To be fair if they are more interested in making jestures to the away fans, then perhaps it will be no loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Most of Mr Cortese's vision seems to be the same Mr Lowe wanted. It is just Cortese has the communication skill and a lot more money behind him. Excellent interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 No sir, that cannot be. There are many posters with friends inside the club who know full well it became a three year plan. It is quite obvious many of those posters tell porkies or repeat lies spread by so called ITK buds who may well have an axe to grind. It was always a four year plan if you read between the lines:heart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 "...when we get to the premiership..." Not if, when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 I can't see how anybody could say we started on the same level as Norwich and Charlton bar the points deduction? Really worrying comment, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 They have a 5 year plan and ML is financing it - not disputed. I asked if he paid in cash or a guarantee for loans the answer was not loans. So 1/3rd answered. Sacha funded poorsmuff by singing bank loan guarantees that is my worry that's all Anyone would think they are working from a template business plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Hearing Cortese explain how he is on match days is fantastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Well the potential new stadium revelation by members here proved to be a red herring. Nicola basically didn't rule it out in the future, but there is very much more real attention being turned to making St Marys a better venue. And on that front, it was nice to hear that the railway line, running by the stadium, was mentioned, and is being looked at for the efficient bringing in of supporters and taking them away. Indeed. Good interview. It's great we're lucky enough to have good professional people running our club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Most of Mr Cortese's vision seems to be the same Mr Lowe wanted. It is just Cortese has the communication skill and a lot more money behind him. Excellent interview Cant help agree with you on that. Looking past Rupes being a complete pillock the ideas behind him were in general the right things to do. The choices he made on the back of those ideas were awful where as the choices NC has made so far seem to be pretty good. The money behind him must help but it cant be just about that can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Hearing Cortese explain how he is on match days is fantastic... Yea, sounds worse than me!!!!! COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Does anybody know if it can be downloaded anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Does anybody know if it can be downloaded anywhere? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Cant help agree with you on that. Looking past Rupes being a complete pillock the ideas behind him were in general the right things to do. The choices he made on the back of those ideas were awful where as the choices NC has made so far seem to be pretty good. The money behind him must help but it cant be just about that can it? There is a simple difference that came across very well. NC does his research by taking adivce, doing surveys and then makes a decision. Rupert of course always knew everything so always made every decision based on what he knew to be right. Allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Yes Thanks Phil, I can relax now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Sounds like Michael Schumacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Does anyone now think that there is a rift between NC & AP? ****ing media **** me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 There is a simple difference that came across very well. NC does his research by taking adivce, doing surveys and then makes a decision. Rupert of course always knew everything so always made every decision based on what he knew to be right. Allegedly LOL Now what was that rumour? NC invited Klinsman to SMS? I wonder why that would have been. These people are pros and make the mafia look like amateurs - all IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Thanks Phil, I can relax now! Can you not go here..? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8565161.stm If you wish to have a copy, then all you have to do is play it and record the wav, mp3, wma, etc... output on your computer. Then save the file. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Interesting to hear that the FL came to NC about "not letting some crooks get into english football"... The words Gaddafi and P*rtsmouth spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifter Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 Good interview. He seems a strong willed man who wants to be succesful but will do what is necassary to be succesful. I suspect this could involve ****ing the fans/FA/Staff off from time to time, but better that than a weak chairman who accepts mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red and white saint Posted 13 March, 2010 Share Posted 13 March, 2010 would of preferred it if he said 'me and markus feel strongly that southampton could be the barcelona of english football, in about 5 - 7 years time we want to be competing on a global scale, we are currently in talks with david beckham about being the front man, LA galaxy style to bring in the punters, we are probably gonna keep st marys as a training stadium, similar to barcelona with their two stadia, but we will be building a new 80k seater stadium with complex of cinemas restaurants shops etc, all under the southampton brand... we will have fans in china and japaneese people outside the stadium like old trafford... me and markus want to be in the champ league... thats where we are aiming, we are even considering buying portsmouth and demolishing it just so our fans dont have suffer them anymore and i can be free to pick up a paper and not have to read about them every day of the week ...' .... thats just what i would of preferred him to say ...but i guess what he said was OK Sounds like a fuking nightmare couldnt think of anything worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 March, 2010 Share Posted 14 March, 2010 Something which I find astounding since almost everyone on here was against. This board is a very very small percentage of Saints fans overall. I love the way forums think they speak for the club.... but they are no where near!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 March, 2010 Share Posted 14 March, 2010 I am stunned no one has said about Nicola's observation that they need to get the beer into peoples hands on the concourse bars much quicker than they do at present. I have only heard the second half in the car on the way home, I have to say that I like the cut of Nicola's gib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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