Really p*ssed off

[Master Bates]

Had my benefits stopped due to being 22hrs late for signing on because I had to pick my 6 year old nephew up from school. I phoned the jobcentre in advance and they said it was fine and to go in between 12:30-1:30pm the next day or within 5 days.

 

Went in the next day and I felt like a criminal due to the way I was spoken to etc then they said I might have my benefits stopped.

 

I've now received a 4 page letter confirming it has ben stopped!!!

 

It's the first i've claimed, I originally claimed for Income Support and Carers allowance in December as I was full time carer for my terminally ill mum but I wasn't allowed, I won't say why I think it is because i'll get infracted.

 

The whole system sucks, meanwhile the benefit cheats continue to get away with it whilst us honest people get penalised for the slightest thing. C**ts!

 

What do they expect me to have done, leave a 6year old kid on his own outside school for an hour or 2? Don't think so some how.

[chrisobee]

Sent you a PM, I'm pretty au fait with Jobcentre rules.

[Master Bates]

Just replied. Going to Citizens Advice tomorow.

[The9]

This is not as much fun as the p*ssed off thread on the Main Bored.

[chrisobee]

This is not as much fun as the p*ssed off thread on the Main Bored.

 

I don't think MB is finding it in any way fun TBH

[chrisobee]

Just replied. Going to Citizens Advice tomorow.

 

Yes, I replied back !

[bungle]

Go to CAB, but also write to your MP (although a lot of them are rather busy at the minute!!).

[chrisobee]

Go to CAB, but also write to your MP (although a lot of them are rather busy at the minute!!).

 

Good idea, my MP is very helpful as indeed is my local Mayor!

[bristolsaint29]

Good idea, my MP is very helpful as indeed is my local Mayor!

 

I wrote to my MP when they screwed up our family tax credits, very helpful and I got a letter from the House of Commons(or Lords I cant actually remember)

[Master Bates]

Go to CAB, but also write to your MP (although a lot of them are rather busy at the minute!!).

 

Unfortunately my MP is a waste of space, went to him for help before about a matter which i'm still battling, but he wasn't interested even though he lives round the corner from me.

[mcjwills]

Had my benefits stopped due to being 22hrs late for signing on because I had to pick my 6 year old nephew up from school. I phoned the jobcentre in advance and they said it was fine and to go in between 12:30-1:30pm the next day or within 5 days.

 

Went in the next day and I felt like a criminal due to the way I was spoken to etc then they said I might have my benefits stopped.

 

I've now received a 4 page letter confirming it has ben stopped!!!

 

It's the first i've claimed, I originally claimed for Income Support and Carers allowance in December as I was full time carer for my terminally ill mum but I wasn't allowed, I won't say why I think it is because i'll get infracted.

 

The whole system sucks, meanwhile the benefit cheats continue to get away with it whilst us honest people get penalised for the slightest thing. C**ts!

 

What do they expect me to have done, leave a 6year old kid on his own outside school for an hour or 2? Don't think so some how.

 

MB my sympathies are with you as last time I was unemployed for a fair length of time it took them 8 weeks before I was even paid what I was entitled too. I suppose the Wayne Kerrs would have expected you to have paid £15.00 to £30.00 out to child minder to get your child from school whilst you went to sign on. If you ever speak to people there my advice is to ask for the name of the person who you are speaking too, so if this happens again you can state So and so said this was acceptable.

 

I agree the whole system sucks, my wife is classified as incapacitated but being White and Anglo Saxon who has live in this country with either of us paying tax for 35 years, we are entitled to b*gger all because all jobs are part time and if you dont pay NI you are entitled to Incapacity Benifit. Seems strange that nearly every Muslin Terrorist or Cleric that you see in the Paper is on Benefits, and the benifits are given to those who turn up on our shores from other countries. RANT OVER.

[Master Bates]

Second paragraph you've said what I didn't have the guts to say, I take my hat off to you.

[Saint Keith]

if you spent as much time looking for a job as you do arse-ing about on here you wouldn't need to be claiming any ****ing benefits, scrounging little ****s

[Saint Keith]

I agree the whole system sucks, my wife is classified as incapacitated but being White and Anglo Saxon who has live in this country with either of us paying tax for 35 years, we are entitled to b*gger all because all jobs are part time and if you dont pay NI you are entitled to Incapacity Benifit. Seems strange that nearly every Muslin Terrorist or Cleric that you see in the Paper is on Benefits, and the benifits are given to those who turn up on our shores from other countries. RANT OVER.

 

totally agree. but no one has said you cant get of your arse and get yourself a job, there are plenty out there if you're not too fussy. the height of hypocrisy imo white people on benefits complaining about all the muslims and foreigners taking all the benefits, when they have paid little or no tax to contribute themselves in the first place. get a job, pay tax and contribute, then you have more of a right to moan

Edited 11 March, 2010 by Saint Keith

[beatlesaint]

I agree the whole system sucks, my wife is classified as incapacitated but being White and Anglo Saxon who has live in this country with either of us paying tax for 35 years, we are entitled to b*gger all because all jobs are part time and if you dont pay NI you are entitled to Incapacity Benifit. Seems strange that nearly every Muslin Terrorist or Cleric that you see in the Paper is on Benefits, and the benifits are given to those who turn up on our shores from other countries. RANT OVER.

 

Whilst not politically correct in these times of embracing Diversity, it is none the less true.....but we aren't allowed to either say or know that anyomore are we !!

[RedArmy]

Get a job tbh.

[bungle]

I agree the whole system sucks, my wife is classified as incapacitated but being White and Anglo Saxon who has live in this country with either of us paying tax for 35 years, we are entitled to b*gger all because all jobs are part time and if you dont pay NI you are entitled to Incapacity Benifit. Seems strange that nearly every Muslin Terrorist or Cleric that you see in the Paper is on Benefits, and the benifits are given to those who turn up on our shores from other countries. RANT OVER.

 

This is a complete load of tosh.

[Master Bates]

if you spent as much time looking for a job as you do arse-ing about on here you wouldn't need to be claiming any ****ing benefits, scrounging little ****s

 

Look through old posts, i'm hardly on here my mouthy c*nt.

 

I wake up at 7am, I look online for jobs, I phone agencies, late morning/early afternoon I go in to town and look around, I then come home pick my nephew up then go back online looking for jobs. I also buy the Echo on Thurs and Sat.

 

The only reason why I don't have a job is because I was decent enough to give up working to look after my mum.

 

My mum passed away on January 13th, from January 15th i've been looking for work (which I doubt many people who had just lost their mum would do).

 

All in all, up yours you ***** and next time think before you type.

 

I AM NOT A SCROUNGING C*NT!

Edited 11 March, 2010 by Master Bates

[Saint Keith]

Look through old posts, i'm hardly on here my mouthy c*nt.

 

I wake up at 7am, I look online for jobs, I phone agencies, late morning/early afternoon I go in to town and look around, I then come home pick my nephew up then go back online looking for jobs. I also buy the Echo on Thurs and Sat.

 

The only reason why I don't have a job is because I was decent enough to give up working to look after my mum.

 

My mum passed away on the 13th, from January 15th i've been looking for work.

 

All in all, up yours you ***** and next time think before you type.

 

I AM NOT A SCROUNGING C*NT!

 

i didnt call anyone c*nt, i called them a sh*t.

 

HTH

 

and who said i was actually referring to you, and not the other posters moaning about their benefits?

Edited 11 March, 2010 by Saint Keith

[Master Bates]

So f*cking sue me.

[Window Cleaner]

Had my benefits stopped due to being 22hrs late for signing on because I had to pick my 6 year old nephew up from school. I phoned the jobcentre in advance and they said it was fine and to go in between 12:30-1:30pm the next day or within 5 days.

 

Went in the next day and I felt like a criminal due to the way I was spoken to etc then they said I might have my benefits stopped.

 

I've now received a 4 page letter confirming it has ben stopped!!!

 

It's the first i've claimed, I originally claimed for Income Support and Carers allowance in December as I was full time carer for my terminally ill mum but I wasn't allowed, I won't say why I think it is because i'll get infracted.

 

The whole system sucks, meanwhile the benefit cheats continue to get away with it whilst us honest people get penalised for the slightest thing. C**ts!

 

What do they expect me to have done, leave a 6year old kid on his own outside school for an hour or 2? Don't think so some how.

 

What you still have to physically sign on in the UK? Unbelievable . Even in medieval France apparently you just have to log on to their site once a month and tick a couple of boxes and bob's your uncle, failing that you can call a toll free number and punch in a few codes.Making benefits beneficiaries actually turn up in a squalid shack off the High St should be reported to the human rights commission.

 

This let's the "Pole Emploi" people get on with what they're supposed to be doing, find jobs to suit people and people to suit jobs, not that they're all that good at it if you go by the press.

Edited 11 March, 2010 by Window Cleaner

[Saint Keith]

what's the point, you haven't got any money

Edited 11 March, 2010 by Saint Keith

[Master Bates]

and who said i was actually referring to you, and not the other posters moaning about their benefits?

 

It's the way you typed it, if it wasn't aimed at me then I very much apologise.

[Master Bates]

what's the point, you haven't got any money

 

You b@stard

[JRM]

This is a complete load of tosh.

 

It is a long debate to get into now, but lets be honest, people like the islamic cleric from Tottenham, Choudary, and his pals, nearly all turn out to be on large benefits paying for numerous kids, houses, yet still find time to run islamic fundamentalist groups and and fit enough to go on marches.......yet not to work

[Saint Keith]

You b@stard

 

ok, truce.

 

now go and get a ****ing job

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mcjwills]

Get a job tbh.

 

I do work, I was ranting over the treatment of my wife who is still unable to work and we have to struggle on 1 wage packet, and it looks like after 5 years that she is unlikely to be healthy enough to ever start employment again, and this like every other government, they now expect both partners to work to have a reasonable standard of living. To be able to afford to go to football I have to give up a lot of luxuries, I'd love for her to be fit enough to get a job and not be in constant pain and agony, because if you had a loved one in that situation you may be a bit more sympathetic.

[Window Cleaner]

I do work, I was ranting over the treatment of my wife who is still unable to work and we have to struggle on 1 wage packet, and it looks like after 5 years that she is unlikely to be healthy enough to ever start employment again, and this like every other government, they now expect both partners to work to have a reasonable standard of living. To be able to afford to go to football I have to give up a lot of luxuries, I'd love for her to be fit enough to get a job and not be in constant pain and agony, because if you had a loved one in that situation you may be a bit more sympathetic.

 

Britain really is a sh*t country these days but what do you expect with a gutless socialist government.

[mcjwills]

i didnt call anyone c*nt, i called them a sh*t.

 

HTH

 

and who said i was actually referring to you, and not the other posters moaning about their benefits?

 

I may be a moaning sh*t but I do have an effing job if you were referring to me.

[mcjwills]

Britain really is a sh*t country these days but what do you expect with a gutless socialist government.

 

Wont disagree with you there. Am looking forward to this years winter festival holiday on December 25th

[Master Bates]

ok, truce.

 

now go and get a ****ing job

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would get a f**king job, but everytime I turn up at Derby Road they pay me to leave!

 

Truce

[Dog]

Bates you are a lazy ****, go and get a job. If you can drive I will give you a job.

[hamster]

Bates you are a lazy ****, go and get a job. If you can drive I will give you a job.

 

Batesy, a word of warning my freund; if Dog agrees to do the interview in a pub, be wanrned the ****er may or may not turn up.

 

 

You could end up wasting a whole evening getting steaming drunk.

[Kadeem Hardison]

my wife is(...)White and Anglo Saxon

 

Bloody immigrants. I remember when those Anglo-Saxons came over here from Germany, stealing our jobs and claiming our benefits. They are worse than the paedos/Muslims/speed cameras*

 

*Delete as applicable.

[chrisobee]

Seems like we have a lot of "experts" on here with regard to the benefit system and the Jobcentre in particular. As MB will know I have a very good knowledge of how the JC works and there are 100's of problems which people face and many like MB have the misfortune to fall foul of what appears to be a ridiculous decision and from what he has told me incorrect and therefore illegal.

Just as a taster try these little gems which the Jobcentre has particular problems with:

 

1) They'll sumbit you for a crappy job for which you are totally unsuited, for which the Employer(s) - those who advertise via the JC are every much a client as someone signing on- will not be happy about if you do apply and then if you don't apply they'll take action against you for not applying. This is very, very common and largely due to incompetent and/or arrogant staff who could not care less about you but are purely interested in meeting their targets so they get a pay rise at the end of the year.

2) They'll make it a condition of your claim that you keep a written record of your jobsearch, not particularly unreasonable but actually illegal if they then threaten to stop your benefits for not keeping such a record. In virtually all cases this is down to ignorance, a common problem amongst Jobcentre staff who invariably get inadequate training and many are on fixed contracts and as soon as they begin to get the hang of the job ( albeit it's not that hard for anyone of reasonable intelligence) they are given the boot. Not exactly a good practice both in terms of staff motivation and gaining the experience necessary.

3) - One of my "favourites"- If you happen to find a job quickly and before your claim is assessed then so far so good. However, if it happens that job is only temporary or lasts for only a short while of course you'll need to sign on. No problem, there is what they call a Rapid reclaim process which means you may be lucky enough to only have to complete a far less detailed form than for a totally new claim. Great ! But wait, there is just one problem which many staff are blissfully unaware of. If it does happen that your original claim was not processed then it is treated as never having being made, so no in fact the Rapid reclaim does not apply even though you may well be told it does. So 2-3 weeks later you wonder why you are not getting paid and the penny drops, the wrong form was completed and you need to complete the more detailed form per a new claim. It gets worse though as the 2-3 weeks you have waited are totally wasted as that "claim" is not valid and you end up back at square one and having to endure a further wait.

 

I could write a book, one day maybe I will but in short Jobcentreplus can be summed up in one word- USELESS !

[SNSUN]

MB, I know you've had a hard time of it in the last year, I'm hoping things start looking up for you and you can get work. I also hope you find something quickly because there's 85 pretty annoyed Pompey staff looking for work. I'm glad I don't have to worry about benefits, maybe I will some day, who knows, but I can empathise with those that legitimately aren't getting what they are entitled to.

 

Chin up chap, there's plenty of naked ladies on t'internet to help you through your troubles...

[chrisobee]

 

Chin up chap, there's plenty of naked ladies on t'internet to help you through your troubles...

 

 

I think his user name suggests he is well aware of that !!

[Glasgow_Saint]

You should ask Deanovski to write you a letter of complaint

[Tractor_Saint]

ok, truce.

 

now go and get a ****ing job

 

 

Did this get St Keith banned??

 

Who's gonna start the 'Free Saint Keith' thread

[Nineteen Canteen]

Britain really is a sh*t country these days but what do you expect with a gutless socialist government.

 

Family Tax Credit - whats all that about? Tax the people who can't afford to pay tax and then get them to write a novel explaining why they can't afford to pay their tax although it should be obvious. Then those who collect the tax arrange to pay it back but in the meantime the families have become destitute!

 

Why are benefits like ICB for example not means tested? Many people can afford these days to pay for some kind of income or mortgage insurance and may be lucky enough to have other revenus streams such as income from rent. Why should they be paid ICB over a person on lower income who could not afford insurance?

 

The Government is talking about pay rise freezes for civil servants when frankly they could change the benefits system to be more equitable and less bureaucratic and lay off thousands of dusty and ill-motivated pen pushers in dusty offices. Alternatively, lets pay people to collect taxes and then pay it back to them instead of issuing higher tax codes in the first place or is that me being simple or overly pragmatic?

 

The trouble is they can't change the systems because the system is such a behemoth that all they can do is tinker with its extremities IMO.

 

Master B I can empathise with your situation to a degree but I would sincerely suggest that you channel your anger away from the race angle. Some people only perceive that this country looks after other ethnic groups more tham white British citizens because that is the picture some newspapers in this country like the Mail and Express would like us to believe. Bottom line for every white male such as yourself their will be equally frustrating tales from a British male of Asian descent. You are both a victim of the system and not favouritism bourne out of some misguided belief that the benefits agencies are scared to turn down applications from ethnic minorities but happy to shaft those of a White British background.

 

In any event it sounds like you are having a very difficult time and I admire how you are approaching the task of finding a job and coping with your grief. It can't be easy and perhaps it may help to have a chat with your GP about what you are going through. Anger, frustration and grief can be a combustible and destructive mixture of emotions and it may help to talk it through with someone. (I hope you don't find this advice patronising as that was far from my intentions)

[hamster]

Mr C I do hope that yur reg user status is temporary.

[dune]

Britain really is a sh*t country these days but what do you expect with a gutless socialist government.

 

I couldn't have put it better myself.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Mr C I do hope that yur reg user status is temporary.

 

I don't know at the moment Hamster tbh. My annual renewal came up and it coincided with some other events that made me consider should I curtail my online activities for a while. As you know this place can eat time like only serious gaming geeks can understand and a limit of 3 posts a day seemed just the ticket although the inability to start a thread or send a pm are big drawbacks.

 

I also have an aversion to Paypal and I don't care how safe they say it is but IMO any payment system linked into your email address is a poor one and especially one with an annual renewal. Doesn't appear to be an option to renew by online payment from my bank as I have used in the past so I let it lapse.

 

Ironically still probably logging on and spending a lot of time reading the threads but obviously restricted in making more comments which some would say is a blessing for us all but then issues build up and fester into a crescendo of pent up bile as i watch the 24 hour clock count down to my next posting date. Failing that i could always open a few more user ids (Joke mods) Not joke mods but to say that was me making a joke btw mods.

 

Other then that things are more Rotary than Rolex but ticking along nonetheless. I enjoyed the river boat thread but when you spoke about firing up the boiler I couldn't help thinking that was a bit derogatory.

[Hatch]

We are going to get a chance to get rid of the commies in a few months.

[saint_stevo]

out of the frying pan......

[scott_saints]

There are loads of jobs out there, s**t loads. Just a shame that most British people will see half of those jobs as "below them".

[chrisobee]

Indeed there are lots of job vacancies but there are at least a hundred times more people looking for jobs. Watford Council advertised for 4 Clerical vacanies, they had nearly 500 applicants. So you don't need to be Einstein to figure out that unless you are well above average you've less than a 1 in 100 chance of getting one of those jobs. Unless you've experienced the despair of people attending Jobcentres at not even getting interviews despite applying for numerous jobs, at reaching the conclusion the reason they don't is that they are "useless", at getting so depressed they end up on Incapacity Benefit which is a nightmare even beyond having to "sign on" and then being called lazy scroungers and of course much worse when the reason they end up in that situation is simply because they can't find a job then you really don't know you've been born.

Far too many blase comments from all corners aimed at people on the whole who are genuinely unable to find work.

[Whitey Grandad]

Far too many blase comments from all corners aimed at people on the whole who are genuinely unable to find work.

Quite right.

 

Good Luck master B. Never, ever give up trying.

[LA77]

Good post Chrisobee. Sounds like the lad has been through the toughest thing ever. Sorry to hear about your sad loss, stay positive and I hope things work out for you.

[Saint_Jonny]

With boobs like that Id hire you MB.