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Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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The guy makes one statement about our league form not matching our cup form, which a blind man could see, and now he's in Pardew's office every day asking him to win the league by May...

no one has said that..stop being dramatic

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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Ah the PL, the promised land. I bet Sam Vokes is enjoying his time up there at the moment.

 

What is the point of joining an aspiring or newly promoted PL team?

 

A 3 year contract of 50k a week is only 7.5mil, big lump of that into a pension plan to look after yourself and your family

 

A 4 year contract at 20k a week is still 4mil.

 

Or he could enjoy his football, have fun, win more than he loses, play as many games as he likes and earn around 5k a week.

 

Simply depends on what type of person he is and what he wants from his life. Luckily at 28 he may be wiser, but hell if someone offered any one of us the chance would WE reject it?

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Ah the PL, the promised land. I bet Sam Vokes is enjoying his time up there at the moment.

 

What is the point of joining an aspiring or newly promoted PL team?

 

A 3 year contract of 50k a week is only 7.5mil, big lump of that into a pension plan to look after yourself and your family

 

A 4 year contract at 20k a week is still 4mil.

 

Or he could enjoy his football, have fun, win more than he loses, play as many games as he likes and earn around 5k a week.

 

Simply depends on what type of person he is and what he wants from his life. Luckily at 28 he may be wiser, but hell if someone offered any one of us the chance would WE reject it?

 

Lenny Lawrence already said when he left Bristol that Lambo had been made a 'life changing offer' trebling his salary and with a signing on fee... he might already be on £15k a week...

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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Lenny Lawrence already said when he left Bristol that Lambo had been made a 'life changing offer' trebling his salary and with a signing on fee... he might already be on £15k a week...

 

Or he could have been on 1k a week, You reckon Brizzle could have affored that much?

 

My point is that of course we don't know.

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Or he could have been on 1k a week, You reckon Brizzle could have affored that much?

 

My point is that of course we don't know.

 

I honestly don't know Phil, but if you work on the basis that the average Premiership wage is 40k a week, then it would be easy to see how an 'average' League One wage could be 5k... Not for much longer I think the way football's finances are going!

 

Weren't we paying Championship wages of £15k a week to the likes of Mule??

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Lenny Lawrence already said when he left Bristol that Lambo had been made a 'life changing offer' trebling his salary and with a signing on fee... he might already be on £15k a week...

£15k a week in league 1....:rolleyes:

 

he could make an even bigger life changing profit by moving to certain CCC clubs

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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£15k a week in league 1....:rolleyes:

 

he could make an even bigger life changing profit by moving to certain CCC clubs

 

The only CCC clubs that could match our ability to pay wages are QPR and Newcastle. So it depends what sort of salary we pay him and how much we want to keep him.

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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I honestly don't know Phil, but if you work on the basis that the average Premiership wage is 40k a week, then it would be easy to see how an 'average' League One wage could be 5k... Not for much longer I think the way football's finances are going!

 

Weren't we paying Championship wages of £15k a week to the likes of Mule??

 

Mule was around 10, but had some clause in his signing on fee that paid him a crazy amount each year, I recall seeing the figure 850k somewhere but no idea if it was right.

 

Gordon Taylor in the BBC debate reckons times will be changing very fast, basics will drop and incentive portions will rise. Problem is that someone always ha more money and skews it. Mido is supposed to be on 1k a week at WHU with add ons....

 

The new PL accounting rules will make a difference for small- medium clubs, but the big ones well, Ricky is unlikely to go to a Top Four....

 

And as for going to Hull lol WHAT salary?.

They may struggle to pay wages this month thanks to PCFC

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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The only CCC clubs that could match our ability to pay wages are QPR and Newcastle. So it depends what sort of salary we pay him and how much we want to keep him.

boro

Forest

leicester

wolves (next season)

WBA

CB Fry

CB Fry

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None of them can match our ability to pay wages.

 

They can all afford to pay Lambert £8k a week, and they'd be in a division above us*, and would be amongst the favourites to push for the Prem the following season.

 

If Lambert decides "actually, this could be my only chance to play in the CCC" and he wants to go, then we'd have to sell.

 

It's perfectly possible.

 

*assuming the worst of course.

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Mule was around 10, but had some clause in his signing on fee that paid him a crazy amount each year, I recall seeing the figure 850k somewhere but no idea if it was right.

 

Gordon Taylor in the BBC debate reckons times will be changing very fast, basics will drop and incentive portions will rise. Problem is that someone always ha more money and skews it. Mido is supposed to be on 1k a week at WHU with add ons....

 

The new PL accounting rules will make a difference for small- medium clubs, but the big ones well, Ricky is unlikely to go to a Top Four....

 

And as for going to Hull lol WHAT salary?.

They may struggle to pay wages this month thanks to PCFC

 

I can see the top four/five clubs basically marooning the rest of the Premiership. So few clubs can afford to pay wages - Hull, West Ham - look at Gold there, he's already told them come what may there will be wage cuts next year...

 

There just isn't any money in the economy any more for football clubs to borrow to pay wages.

 

I think salaries will come crashing down!

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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None of them can match our ability to pay wages.

 

And, none of the above are likely to build a team and a style of play around him from the start of the season.

 

For the chance to play in the PL then we have to expect he would consider it. (Whether he would play every week or not is another matter) He could be another Steve Bull, didn't seem good enough but did pretty damn well, or he could just disappear and be 3rd choice behind some African muscle man with pace but rich.

CB Fry

CB Fry

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I can see the top four/five clubs basically marooning the rest of the Premiership. So few clubs can afford to pay wages - Hull, West Ham - look at Gold there, he's already told them come what may there will be wage cuts next year...

 

There just isn't any money in the economy any more for football clubs to borrow to pay wages.

 

I think salaries will come crashing down!

 

 

They'll come crashing down from £35k odd that WHU are paying to around £10-12k. ie more money than Richard Lambert has ever been paid in his career.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I can see the top four/five clubs basically marooning the rest of the Premiership. So few clubs can afford to pay wages - Hull, West Ham - look at Gold there, he's already told them come what may there will be wage cuts next year...

 

There just isn't any money in the economy any more for football clubs to borrow to pay wages.

 

I think salaries will come crashing down!

there is cuts to be made..but are you seriously suggesting a team near the bottom of the prem could not afford a league 1 player..

 

dear christ

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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boro cant..?

 

lol

 

No, Steve Gibson is worth what £100 million? We can afford to outpay any of the clubs in the Championship - if we want to. I doubt we would, because it would not be good business sense.

 

The point is more whether he would want to go.

 

But be under no illusion, football's finances are f u c k e d and we are one of probably five clubs in football who are 'currently' immune from this.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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No, Steve Gibson is worth what £100 million? We can afford to outpay any of the clubs in the Championship - if we want to. I doubt we would, because it would not be good business sense.

 

The point is more whether he would want to go.

 

But be under no illusion, football's finances are f u c k e d and we are one of probably five clubs in football who are 'currently' immune from this.

we can afford to out pay man u on paper...but in reality, we wont

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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I can see the top four/five clubs basically marooning the rest of the Premiership. So few clubs can afford to pay wages - Hull, West Ham - look at Gold there, he's already told them come what may there will be wage cuts next year...

 

There just isn't any money in the economy any more for football clubs to borrow to pay wages.

 

I think salaries will come crashing down!

 

These are really dangerous days for the PL.

 

Their brand relies on being "The Best League with The Best Players".

 

The brand brings the money from global TV.

 

The moment that "The Stars" from "Abroad" can earn more in Italy or Spain the quality on show will decline.

 

The PL have one hell of a balancing act, they MUST allow the clubs to pay for the stars but they cannot afford to pay for what they don't earn.

 

PCFC have burst that bubble, it is what happens next that is the tricky part.

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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No, Steve Gibson is worth what £100 million? We can afford to outpay any of the clubs in the Championship - if we want to. I doubt we would, because it would not be good business sense.

 

The point is more whether he would want to go.

 

But be under no illusion, football's finances are f u c k e d and we are one of probably five clubs in football who are 'currently' immune from this.

 

Just be careful with that last thought.

 

Thinking you are immune leads to mistakes. IF the rest of football is forced to change we must take care that any new rules don't impact how ML is backing the team.

 

As we are not a Public Company now, we don't know if it is Loans, Guarantees or Hard Cash converted into Equity.

 

IF English football changes the rules we have an "unknown unknown" that could be affected...

 

In THEORY that idea you had is what the Few thought. I don't for a moment believe we have ANY issue, but as we don't KNOW I'd err on the side of caution before being flippant

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Just be careful with that last thought.

 

Thinking you are immune leads to mistakes. IF the rest of football is forced to change we must take care that any new rules don't impact how ML is backing the team.

 

As we are not a Public Company now, we don't know if it is Loans, Guarantees or Hard Cash converted into Equity.

 

IF English football changes the rules we have an "unknown unknown" that could be affected...

 

In THEORY that idea you had is what the Few thought. I don't for a moment believe we have ANY issue, but as we don't KNOW I'd err on the side of caution before being flippant

 

Hence the word 'currently'... which we should remember and enjoy.

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Does it really matter? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Rickie stay but

 

1) If he goes we will make money which we can stregthen the team with, there's no way we will let him go cheap.

2) Unlike the prevoius owners I actually believe our new owners will replace out going players with quaility replacements rather than cheap dross.

3) there's plenty of talent we can plunder from the lower leagues with our money, If Lambert goes I suggest we take both of Swindons strikers:badgrin:.

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Does it really matter? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Rickie stay but

 

1) If he goes we will make money which we can stregthen the team with, there's no way we will let him go cheap.

2) Unlike the prevoius owners I actually believe our new owners will replace out going players with quaility replacements rather than cheap dross.

3) there's plenty of talent we can plunder from the lower leagues with our money, If Lambert goes I suggest we take both of Swindons strikers:badgrin:.

 

I suggest we take Wycombe's groundsman.

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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Hence the word 'currently'... which we should remember and enjoy.

 

Oh some of us do enjoy. We don't clap happily but we understand when it is time to enjoy.

 

Life is a Sh!t Sandwich. How good it is depends on how thick the bread is.

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Oh some of us do enjoy. We don't clap happily but we understand when it is time to enjoy.

 

Life is a Sh!t Sandwich. How good it is depends on how thick the bread is.

 

I would like to know NC's plans for sustainability but I think plenty will ask that question... Without 'debt' and given the cup runs and gates, I actually wonder how far off break even we are? I guess it depends on how ML has 'funded' us as to our debt...

 

Still I'm guessing he's not laundering gun money or fuelling the pockets of agents... but I could be wrong!!! ;)

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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I would like to know NC's plans for sustainability but I think plenty will ask that question... Without 'debt' and given the cup runs and gates, I actually wonder how far off break even we are? I guess it depends on how ML has 'funded' us as to our debt...

 

Still I'm guessing he's not laundering gun money or fuelling the pockets of agents... but I could be wrong!!! ;)

 

Switch to the ask NC thread....

 

We appreciate the efforts that you and Markus have made, as fans we were wondering whether Markus was lending the club money or if he was converting his funding into equity.

Stepgar

Stepgar

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Why..? We'd rather he stayed, and we certainly don't need the money. By all accounts, he's happy at Southampton, where he is very much appreciated.

 

If, IF, we take money for him, it should be for ridiculous money to put clubs off. Put a price tag of £8M to £10M and suggest to any club that if they are rich enough to pay that much, then fine. The problem is, whatever striker one might replace Lambert with, is unlikely to be as effective, and be willing to play in League One, anyway.

 

Totally agree with this. We are no longer a selling club and I think that NC will turn the business screw quite tight to ensure that we get over the odds money for him. As if we do sell him we need to replace his goals and set piece delivery and that will come at a premium. So how much ?? I would not setll for anything less than 5million. That should put the erther kitts up them potential buyer.

docker-p

docker-p

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boro

Forest

leicester

wolves (next season)

WBA

 

Wolves maybe with the aid of parachute payments, the rest you're having a laugh. Forest still massively in debt, Leicester owned by Madric who'll soon be in gaol, and WBA who, respectably, just spend what they earn.

scotty

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I cant see him legging it any time soon myself, certainly not to Hull. If he'd wanted to freeze up north he could have left brizzle many times over with the goals he was scoring, and he must surely be on a pretty decent wage here?? or why would he have come here at all:confused:

JibMcdo

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I doubt that we would turn down 2 million actually, maybe even less.

 

Yeh I think we'd accept £2m for Lambert. ML and NC will run the club as a business and assuming we paid £1m for him would they turn down a 100% mark-up on him? Probably not, especially considering he is 28 or whatever. Then it would be up to him if he wants to leave.

scotty

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Yeh I think we'd accept £2m for Lambert. ML and NC will run the club as a business and assuming we paid £1m for him would they turn down a 100% mark-up on him? Probably not, especially considering he is 28 or whatever. Then it would be up to him if he wants to leave.

 

Assuming that the business plan is a return to the prem, £1m would be peanuts in the context of what they are anticipating. And given that he's been our highest-profile signing, not to mention top scorer, I would have thought that would rule out selling him if there was any way to avoid it.

NickG

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Get used to these rumours and worries as our failure to be promoted this season crystallises...

 

Reckon we will lose a couple of players because of it. And in the summer we will back to Square One(maybe One-and-a-Half..)

 

only a fool would think we would be back to square one if we don't get promoted.

 

just driven through Southampton to see all the Wembley posters across the city.

 

Even if we lose a few top players will still be much better off than we were close of season last year.

Saints foreva

Saints foreva

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Or he could have been on 1k a week, You reckon Brizzle could have affored that much?

 

My point is that of course we don't know.

 

Lambert was the biggest earner in Bristol Rovers history. I suspect he was on around £7,000 there.

ericofarabia

ericofarabia

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And well he might or WBA or Wigan or Stoke or whatever.

 

I would predict that we will start next season with no Lambert, no Lallana, no Morgan and perhaps even no Fonté. We shall have to see how just how much of a Nostradamus I am. If we are still in League 1 or course.

 

Ummm ...... so you haven't ruled out relegation yet :p

ericofarabia

ericofarabia

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Rickie is going nowhere until the Jan 2011 transfer window at the earliest ..... FACT.

 

He is Mr December in the Official 2010 Calendar ;)

 

Admittedly the last few years haven't been a good advert for this "FACT"

but I reckon all new signings have had a clause written into their contract saying they can't leave till after their appropriate month in the calendar :p

John B

John B

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Lambert was the biggest earner in Bristol Rovers history. I suspect he was on around £7,000 there.

 

Compared with most Premier League players that is pretty poor

Foxstone

Foxstone

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He will still be playing for Southampton FC next season.

The Newcastles of this world, if back in the Premiership will go for prem proven players or foreign players with a reputation gained from this coming World Cup.

Teams in the CCC would not be able to afford him.

He is 28, he is not a youngster worth taking a gamble on, he has never played higher than this division and he knew there was a very good chance we would take a second season to get oput of this League.

 

If we fail to go up next season it just may be a different story.....but I doubt that too.

 

+2

 

He seems happy here, Newcastle have Carroll, Ameobi and Best ahead of him in the pecking order and as others have mentioned Hull are on the brink anyway..

alpine_saint

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only a fool would think we would be back to square one if we don't get promoted.

 

just driven through Southampton to see all the Wembley posters across the city.

 

Even if we lose a few top players will still be much better off than we were close of season last year.

 

Jesus, you'd try to paint a positive outlook on SFC even if the club were unfortunate enough to experience a repeat of the Munich Disaster that befell Man U.

 

Seriously, send some sample posts and a CV to Downing Street. Gordon Brown would jump at the chance to employ you in his PR.

croome

croome

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Its going to be the same old crap in the summer, lambert and lallana are they leaving, and who are they going too. Cant wait to read all the great posts.

John B

John B

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Jesus, you'd try to paint a positive outlook on SFC even if the club were unfortunate enough to experience a repeat of the Munich Disaster that befell Man U.

 

Seriously, send some sample posts and a CV to Downing Street. Gordon Brown would jump at the chance to employ you in his PR.

 

Although NickG is a little happy clappy I agree with him the outlook does look positive .

 

A great deal better than at the end of August 2009

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