Cortese Reaction...

[Saint_clark]

So you think that Pardew will have the same Squad of players for next season ???

 

Believe it or not, some of them are AMBITIOUS, and will not want to waste another season in Division One

 

Still, if you cannot see anything wrong in being in the UK's Third rated League, then there's not much else to say:cool:

 

Except get a sense of perspective.

What is wrong with DEMANDING promotion within two seasons rather than one?

[NickG]

(1)So you think that Pardew will have the same Squad of players for next season ???

 

(2)Believe it or not, some of them are AMBITIOUS, and will not want to waste another season in Division One

 

(3)Still, if you cannot see anything wrong in being in the UK's Third rated

 

League, then there's not much else to say:cool:

 

(1) No. But the squad he assembled was assembled, partly with a rushed transfer window. He attracted players when we were at best about 13 points of play offs. I see no reason why players who joined on that basis would suddenly change their mind about being here, and if they do go that they would not be replaced by similar standard.

 

(2) I am not aware of any supporter who would choose league 1 over CCC and doesn't want promotion.

 

(3) There is a lot wrong with it. Having said that fans are enjoying the season in their thousands.

[S-Clarke]

 

Still, if you cannot see anything wrong in being in the UK's Third rated League, then there's not much else to say:cool:

 

It's all about perspective; we're in this league because of the mismanagement that has gone on before. It's not great being this low down, but there is nothing we can do about it right now - so why don't we just try to accept and enjoy it for now? We’ll be back up before long

 

Personally I am enjoying seeing us win games, defeats have become all too common in the last few seasons and whatever league we're in, it's nice to see us winning games.

 

Promotion was always a long-shot this season and I am a bit surprised at people’s apparent strops because we've missed out on the playoffs. I'm happy that we have even been talking about the possibility!

 

If we go back to the start of the season, I’d say a good 60% of people would have taken a mid-table finish this year. I think I was one of the few that actually thought we'd do ok and finish 8th - 10th (that would equal a good season IMO) and we're on course for that.

 

I just wish people would take time to look at the bigger picture before stamping their feet because we lost 1 game, that's 1 game lost since the 28th December.

 

If people cannot see the improvement that we are making all across the board then they are being blinded by their own agendas, but in my book we're well on course and we are performing well enough now to be in the automatic race next year.

 

Just enjoy the rest of the season - it's been a while since we've been able to put our feet up at the end of a season!

[SaintRichmond]

It's all about perspective; we're in this league because of the mismanagement that has gone on before. It's not great being this low down, but there is nothing we can do about it right now - so why don't we just try to accept and enjoy it for now? We’ll be back up before long

 

Personally I am enjoying seeing us win games, defeats have become all too common in the last few seasons and whatever league we're in, it's nice to see us winning games.

 

Promotion was always a long-shot this season and I am a bit surprised at people’s apparent strops because we've missed out on the playoffs. I'm happy that we have even been talking about the possibility!

 

If we go back to the start of the season, I’d say a good 60% of people would have taken a mid-table finish this year. I think I was one of the few that actually thought we'd do ok and finish 8th - 10th (that would equal a good season IMO) and we're on course for that.

 

I just wish people would take time to look at the bigger picture before stamping their feet because we lost 1 game, that's 1 game lost since the 28th December.

 

If people cannot see the improvement that we are making all across the board then they are being blinded by their own agendas, but in my book we're well on course and we are performing well enough now to be in the automatic race next year.

 

Just enjoy the rest of the season - it's been a while since we've been able to put our feet up at the end of a season!

 

 

At the start of the season, I agree, in minds of many,Promotion was a long shot

 

BUT, by Xmas, we were still fairly close

 

THEN Pardew started to BUY, and assembled a Squad that no one can say are not streets ahead of what we started off with

 

We SHOULD have pushed on, got more points than our competitors, and be getting pretty close to sixth

 

Instead of that, Pardew's "New" Team have never realistically challenged for a Top Six finish

 

Why not ???? IMHO, they have underachieved Big Time, and now all they are waiting for is March 28th

 

Winning the JPT, but dipping out on the Top Six by circa 2 points, is NOT the scenario I prefer

 

Same old British mind set "Oh well, we tried, but coming 8th is pretty good you know

 

No it isn't, Finishing in the Top Six is pretty good

 

Cortese does not or will not like being second best, and anything less than Play Offs IS second best in his eyes

 

He is a winner, he is not used to failure:cool:

[S-Clarke]

If we started the season in October, we would be in or around the top 3/4 teams right now.

 

The reason we are so far off is because of the -10 and the failure to win in our first 10 games.

 

Our form since October has been at least play-off form and that has been since Pard's has had his team together.

 

I agree that results at Exeter and Brentford have been disappointing, but a ''new'' team will always have a blip during a season, the reality is that we could not afford to have a single blip if we wanted to make real headway - that wasn't realistic IMO.

 

Next season will be a different story, for one - I expect automatic promotion, anything else will be a massive failure.

[dubai_phil]

If we started the season in October, we would be in or around the top 3/4 teams right now.

 

The reason we are so far off is because of the -10 and the failure to win in our first 10 games.

 

Our form since October has been at least play-off form and that has been since Pard's has had his team together.

 

I agree that results at Exeter and Brentford have been disappointing, but a ''new'' team will always have a blip during a season, the reality is that we could not afford to have a single blip if we wanted to make real headway - that wasn't realistic IMO.

 

Next season will be a different story, for one - I expect automatic promotion, anything else will be a massive failure.

 

 

Who says time travel is impossible?

 

Look we're back to where we started again

 

Cue long disertation by NickG with the stats and GS with the cutting barbs

 

[SaintRichmond]

If we started the season in October, we would be in or around the top 3/4 teams right now.

 

The reason we are so far off is because of the -10 and the failure to win in our first 10 games.

 

Our form since October has been at least play-off form and that has been since Pard's has had his team together.

 

I agree that results at Exeter and Brentford have been disappointing, but a ''new'' team will always have a blip during a season, the reality is that we could not afford to have a single blip if we wanted to make real headway - that wasn't realistic IMO.

 

Next season will be a different story, for one - I expect automatic promotion, anything else will be a massive failure.

 

I don't agree with that

 

Play Off Teams do NOT drop the same no of stupid points that we have

 

OK, we did not win for the first ten games, but by Xmas we were a lot closer to the Top Six than we now are

 

Plus, since since Oct

15/11 Brighton (H) 1-3

26/1 Brentford (A) 1-1

6/2 Exeter (A) 1-1

23/2 Wycombe (A) 0-0

6/3 Tranmere (A) 1-2

 

That's the 12 points that would put us within reach o the Top Six

That's points dropped SINCE Pardews assembled League Busters

 

Why are people happy with second best, "the British Disease"

 

What other country hails second best ??? "Here comes Britains No 1, finished 28th, but did a personnal best":-D:D

[NickG]

Who says time travel is impossible?

 

Look we're back to where we started again

 

Cue long disertation by NickG with the stats and GS with the cutting barbs

 

 

nope, accepted that two or three on here enjoy slagging the club off either for attention or perhaps not fans at all.

[beatlesaint]

I don't agree with that

 

Play Off Teams do NOT drop the same no of stupid points that we have

 

Leeds Utd have only won one of their last seven games.

Huddersfield have lost the last two.

Milwall have lost at Wycombe and Hartlepool.

Swindon have failed to win their last two, including a hammering at home.

 

Play-off and automatic promotion teams DO drop stupid points.

Teams have good runs, teams have bad runs.

If, after 46 games are played, we are ten points, or less, behind Huddersfield, Swindon, Milwall to name but three, will you except that your argument is flawed and that, looking back on the season, despite the ten point deduction and the bad start, we didnt do that bad ?

[Window Cleaner]

Leeds Utd have only won one of their last seven games.

Huddersfield have lost the last two.

Milwall have lost at Wycombe and Hartlepool.

Swindon have failed to win their last two, including a hammering at home.

 

Play-off and automatic promotion teams DO drop stupid points.

Teams have good runs, teams have bad runs.

If, after 46 games are played, we are ten points, or less, behind Huddersfield, Swindon, Milwall to name but three, will you except that your argument is flawed and that, looking back on the season, despite the ten point deduction and the bad start, we didnt do that bad ?

 

 

 

probably all much the same as us, too many matches on the clock, too

close together,only 1 really effective side etc etc etc.Maybe the other lesser sides are beginning to work out the playing schema of the upper sides as well. We play too much long ball onto Lambert's head, looks like it's been sussed by lesser sides with no real game plan of their own,their plan is just to snuff out ours.

[dubai_phil]

nope, accepted that two or three on here enjoy slagging the club off either for attention or perhaps not fans at all.

 

Precisely :cool:

[alpine_saint]

nope, accepted that two or three on here enjoy slagging the club off either for attention or perhaps not fans at all.

 

Who the hell are you to judge that ?

[John B]

Who the hell are you to judge that ?

 

Slagging off probably means saying something which is not totally complimentary to SFC its officials and players such as the team did not do well and Adam L sometimes misses easy chances.

[NickG]

Who the hell are you to judge that ?

 

its clear

[SaintRichmond]

Leeds Utd have only won one of their last seven games.

Huddersfield have lost the last two.

Milwall have lost at Wycombe and Hartlepool.

Swindon have failed to win their last two, including a hammering at home.

 

Play-off and automatic promotion teams DO drop stupid points.Teams have good runs, teams have bad runs.

If, after 46 games are played, we are ten points, or less, behind Huddersfield, Swindon, Milwall to name but three, will you except that your argument is flawed and that, looking back on the season, despite the ten point deduction and the bad start, we didnt do that bad ?

 

But, the Teams that DO make the play offs, will not have dropped as many "stupid" points as us, even allowing for our -10

 

(Unless of course you class Brighton (H), and Brentford, Exeter, Wycombe and Tranmere (A) points that we could not have been expected to get ????

 

I do not consider my argument tp be flawed. I maintain that Pardew's Enhanced Team(s) have UNDERACHIEVED since Nov onwards (as per 12 points from the matches noted above)

 

Had Pardew been working with the SAME Squad that started the season, then I would agree that a mid table, or slightly higher, would have been respectable

 

However, as many pundits have stated, he has had the best Squad in Div 1 at his disposal, certainly from Nov onwards:cool: