Cortese Reaction...

[St Lightjaw]

Leeds drawing at home to Brentford

 

 

Grayson Out!!! http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=176356

[Window Cleaner]

Grayson Out!!! http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=176356

 

wait until we tonk them next week-end then, should be good reading on there.

[St Lightjaw]

wait until we tonk them next week-end then, should be good reading on there.

 

:smt023

[John B]

EVERY Team has bad decisions go against them at times

 

BUT Good teams rise above that and STILL WIN

 

Don't you realise, that the Team Pardew NOW has is punching well well below it's weight. ( we were closer to the Top Six at Xmas )

 

So why is that ??? Of course players should take some blame, but so should the man who prepares them for the match, ie Mr Pardew

 

Chalk and Cheese

Destroyed Huddersfield

Failed to overcome a "lesser" Team

 

PATHETIC:cool:

 

I think you ought to find another interest as you plainly dont understand football as sometimes the lesser teams wins if not there would be no point in playing

[ponto1963]

Basically, for being inept

 

Other teams have bad decisions go against them, but still win

 

We have NO LEADER on the pitch, and a bit of a weak lettuce on the side of it

 

WHO built the Team ??? Who has failed to get a loud mouthed ****y individual, ie Bremner or Ball, that can DRIVE a Team on

 

Sorry mate, Pardew took all the PRAISE for Walsall and Huddersfield

Now, he has to take all the FLAK for the inability of HIS Team to overcome the Mighty Tranmere

 

:cool:

If you're that impatient I suggest you support some other team. One that doesn't lose at all. Problem is there isn't such a team. Considering where we have come from we are doing brilliantly this season. Some people do really amaze me.

[SaintRichmond]

If you're that impatient I suggest you support some other team. One that doesn't lose at all. Problem is there isn't such a team. Considering where we have come from we are doing brilliantly this season. Some people do really amaze me.

 

And people like you amaze me

 

You either can't or won't see that our current Team could and should have done much better than they have, and that all the stupid Draws that we have had, will prevent us being in the Play Offs THIS season

 

That is not Impatience. It is a realistic view of the results obtained by Pardew's assembled Team. A team that destroyed both Walsall and Huddersfield yet failed abysmally at Tranmere

 

If Pardew was still struggling with the Team he had at the START of the season, then I would agree with you

 

But he is not, but his assembled "talented" side have underachieved big time

[Saint_clark]

And people like you amaze me

 

You either can't or won't see that our current Team could and should have done much better than they have, and that all the stupid Draws that we have had, will prevent us being in the Play Offs THIS season

 

That is not Impatience. It is a realistic view of the results obtained by Pardew's assembled Team. A team that destroyed both Walsall and Huddersfield yet failed abysmally at Tranmere

 

If Pardew was still struggling with the Team he had at the START of the season, then I would agree with you

 

But he is not, but his assembled "talented" side have underachieved big time

 

In your opinion.

[Window Cleaner]

 

But he is not, but his assembled "talented" side have underachieved big time

 

 

On occasions yes, against bad sides away from home. Other than that our side is second to none...well at home anyway.I have long given up trying to understand Pardewspeak, one minute it's minimum the play-offs, the next it's well it's not the end of the world if we don't get there. I presume the players are equally confused over our ultimate objectives.

[brmbrm]

And people like you amaze me

 

You either can't or won't see that our current Team could and should have done much better than they have, and that all the stupid Draws that we have had, will prevent us being in the Play Offs THIS season

 

That is not Impatience. It is a realistic view of the results obtained by Pardew's assembled Team. A team that destroyed both Walsall and Huddersfield yet failed abysmally at Tranmere

 

If Pardew was still struggling with the Team he had at the START of the season, then I would agree with you

 

But he is not, but his assembled "talented" side have underachieved big time

 

Calm down dear. Every game is just a two-horse race. Sometimes one horse wins, sometimes the other. live with it.

[NickG]

What exactly is your point? That promotion wasn't essential this year so that AP didn't have to know what to do or didn't have to apply himself to it? Or whilst he didn't know how to do it this year, you're sure he will know it next year?

 

Exactly.

 

guessing he will notice a bit of a difference come the start of the season, with both how the league table looks and what his set up.

 

Can you not see that?

[Window Cleaner]

guessing he will notice a bit of a difference come the start of the season, with both how the league table looks and what his set up.

 

Can you not see that?

 

 

See what Nick?

 

AP doesn't look at the League table or so he says.

[saintjinksie]

If we finish more than 10 points outside the playoffs, sack pardew. If we finish less than 10 points keep him. With the squad we have, we should quite clearly be in the playoffs.

[NickG]

Think Pardew has the job for next season unless we lose every game now.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

If we finish more than 10 points outside the playoffs, sack pardew. If we finish less than 10 points keep him. With the squad we have, we should quite clearly be in the playoffs.

 

 

 

Oh and sell all the players because they are rubbish...

[Window Cleaner]

If we finish more than 10 points outside the playoffs, sack pardew. If we finish less than 10 points keep him. With the squad we have, we should quite clearly be in the playoffs.

 

that would be logical of course but I'm not sure that that's how the owner will see it. He allowed money to be spent in an effort to compensate the -10 points and may want to see a little better return on his investment.

[saintjinksie]

that would be logical of course but I'm not sure that that's how the owner will see it. He allowed money to be spent in an effort to compensate the -10 points and may want to see a little better return on his investment.

 

i fully agree, i dont really like pardew but that was my compromise

[Clifford Nelson]

guessing he will notice a bit of a difference come the start of the season, with both how the league table looks and what his set up.

 

Can you not see that?

 

I could see that dune was talking balderdash, and now it looks like you're doing the same. It's not like you, Nick, is there something catching on this thread?

[beatlesaint]

And people like you amaze me

 

You either can't or won't see that our current Team could and should have done much better than they have, and that all the stupid Draws that we have had, will prevent us being in the Play Offs THIS season

 

That is not Impatience. It is a realistic view of the results obtained by Pardew's assembled Team. A team that destroyed both Walsall and Huddersfield yet failed abysmally at Tranmere

 

If Pardew was still struggling with the Team he had at the START of the season, then I would agree with you

 

But he is not, but his assembled "talented" side have underachieved big time

 

Your over reaction to defeats and/or set backs amaze me.

How the hell have you coped with watching Saints over the last 4 or 5 years ?

 

You are going on like some 18 year old who has very little history of the up and downs of supporting SFC. We used to have Keegan, Channon, Ball, Watson and Nicholl in the team and still lose away game after away game.

 

Winning a home game by 4 or 5 then losing away the next week is like the early 80's except its a different league.

 

Bet you aren't a Lawrie fan either then

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Think Pardew has the job for next season unless we lose every game now.

 

Big assumption imo.

[CB Fry]

If you're that impatient I suggest you support some other team. One that doesn't lose at all. Problem is there isn't such a team. Considering where we have come from we are doing brilliantly this season. Some people do really amaze me.

 

"Where we have come from" is blowing every single team in the league (and almost every single team in the league above) out of the water in terms of transfer fees and wages.

 

When are people going to stop making out we are still so terribly hard done by. We're the luckiest team in the league bar none.

[Legod Third Coming]

"Where we have come from" is blowing every single team in the league (and almost every single team in the league above) out of the water in terms of transfer fees and wages.

 

When are people going to stop making out we are still so terribly hard done by. We're the luckiest team in the league bar none.

 

I would go further, we are the tenth highest spenders in England and luckier than all bar the top four teams in the Premiership. It's time the TEAM started to behave this way...but few of our players have probably ever been in such a position so I extend them some patience to LEARN about how to live with expectation.

[NickG]

Big assumption imo.

 

Cortesse has never sacked a manager before!

 

Bottom line is we know nothing about his thinking in reality, nor his relationship with Pardew

[tonibell]

Give Pardew the time he's been promised. Madness to do otherwise.

 

It's not like Fabio Capello is waiting in the wings.

 

Try Mark Hughes.......waiting in the wings

[SFC Forever]

Oh and sell all the players because they are rubbish...

 

Why do you always rubbish someone because they are not happy with a manger that has allowed our team to drift away from the playoffs. A few on here have said over and over again the team needs a midfield general. Pardew is paid more than I have ever seen in one hand to do a job. He is not doing it well enough at the moment and some of us have said so.

You just react with childish petulence by coming out with some stupid remark.You don't need to be a professional to know that we are struggling in games that we should be winning. For me and others this is because the manager has not bought a dirty hard play breaking midfielder. Every big team that wins consistantly has at least one. We have players that can play pretty football. To a higher standard than that of last year agreed, but we have no obvious leader.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Incredible. Still arguing over this subject - same old comments from the same peeps. What will be will be - how can anyone second guess NC's thought's and does it matter? If we win every game from now on we will get promoted. It will probably be better for the club and the team if we wait until next season though. AP will be here to see it through unless we have a poor start to next season and then all bets are off. There's still some football to be played THIS season though.

[Red]

OP is about "Cortese Reaction", and whilst no one knows for sure, I for one would be delighted if he was upset at the defeat - we all should be, including AP - after all was it not AP that claimed to change the "losing mentality"?

 

We have to make it clear that this result and others (mainly away) are not good enough. Does not mean AP gets sacked, just that he, the players, rest of the staff, clearly understand what is expected of them. If I were NC (and yes I know I am not) I would want to see clear evidence for the rest of this season, to show we will get automatic promotion next season, and so far over the last 10 or so games that is the case despite this defeat. If we fall way short of that then maybe it's time to think of a change over the summer. Perhaps a bit unfair on AP, but the new owners might only maintain their interest as long as we are progressing, and without them where would we be - oh yes back to last summer !

 

Sometimes no matter how good you are at your job, luck evades you for some reason (even Coppell - widely thought to be our first choice, had very poor results in his last period at Reading).

 

I know a fair bit about the financial industry (NC's back ground) and the one golden rule is to mitigate/cover any risk and exposure = there will be a plan B, C, D and even E.

[John B]

 

I know a fair bit about the financial industry (NC's back ground) and the one golden rule is to mitigate/cover any risk and exposure = there will be a plan B, C, D and even E.

 

Really so why has the world been in recession if the bankers are so wonderful.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Cortesse has never sacked a manager before!

 

Bottom line is we know nothing about his thinking in reality, nor his relationship with Pardew

 

Like I say Nick, I have heard enough "rumours" from inside St Marys to give me a little insight into his mind and he is not overtly happy.

I honestly think were it not for the JPT then he would be considering swinging the axe before the season's end and AP is well aware of that.

NC has nothing like the patience the fans would like him to have, imo.

As for me - there is lots I like about AP, he has common sense and speaks very well but tactically, especially away from home he sometimes appears lacking nous.

Mind you if Lallana put away just half the chances he has missed this season we would not be having this debate.

[Foxstone]

I like Pards very much and I really hope he stays into next season regardless of how we finish.

 

But I also like winners too, and NC is certainly one of those and I would trust him to make the right judgement whatever it is.

[John B]

Cortesse has never sacked a manager before!

 

He sacked Wotte if I remember

[NickG]

He sacked Wotte if I remember

 

how quickly I forget!

 

Pardew's on borrowed time!

[alpine_saint]

OP is about "Cortese Reaction", and whilst no one knows for sure, I for one would be delighted if he was upset at the defeat - we all should be, including AP - after all was it not AP that claimed to change the "losing mentality"?

 

We have to make it clear that this result and others (mainly away) are not good enough. Does not mean AP gets sacked, just that he, the players, rest of the staff, clearly understand what is expected of them. If I were NC (and yes I know I am not) I would want to see clear evidence for the rest of this season, to show we will get automatic promotion next season, and so far over the last 10 or so games that is the case despite this defeat. If we fall way short of that then maybe it's time to think of a change over the summer. Perhaps a bit unfair on AP, but the new owners might only maintain their interest as long as we are progressing, and without them where would we be - oh yes back to last summer !

 

Sometimes no matter how good you are at your job, luck evades you for some reason (even Coppell - widely thought to be our first choice, had very poor results in his last period at Reading).

 

I know a fair bit about the financial industry (NC's back ground) and the one golden rule is to mitigate/cover any risk and exposure = there will be a plan B, C, D and even E.

 

Excellent post.

 

Really do not like the culture of making excuses up for poor results that is prevalent through certain elements of the fan-base.

[John B]

Excellent post.

 

Really do not like the culture of making excuses up for poor results that is prevalent through certain elements of the fan-base.

 

The problem with football is that half the league games are played away where it is not always as easy to achieve results.

 

 

So I accept that we will not perform away as well as we do at home

 

In fact I have not seen us win away on many occassions

Edited 8 March, 2010 by John B

[alpine_saint]

The problem with football is that half the league games are played away where it is not always as easy to achieve results.

 

 

So I accept that we will not perform away as well as we do at home

 

And the difference in performance from Norwich compared to Wycombe/Exeter/Brentford/Tranmere ?

[John B]

And the difference in performance from Norwich compared to Wycombe/Exeter/Brentford/Tranmere ?

 

I think we took our chances at Norwich but not at Wycombe Brentford and Tranmere and at home against Portsmouth

Edited 8 March, 2010 by John B

[dubai_phil]

Entering the debate purely from an observational angle to look for perspective.

 

We are all pretty well aware of the wolrd of "bankers" these days thanks to the media.

 

NC was successful in Banking. The mentality that pervades that industry at the top level is that it is all about "The Deal".

 

The Deal is instant it gets done and the bonus cheque comes in. (Often it matters not if the deal was good for customers or not)

 

NC is now in a "different zone" The "Deal" was done last year and now he has to sit and wait. It is a different game, one the "fast decision making" background has no doubt helped make successful, but it IS an alien environment.

 

So business culture wise, he is likely to be highly "Now" Results Oriented.

 

So, whether you are a "It Takes Time" believer or a "We need it Now" protagonist I feel pretty sure that there will exist a fundamental impatience and a lack of experience in running a 5 year plan.

 

Good deal makers with a track record are worth a great deal of money with even bigger multi-million bonuses. Every extra week NC spends with us moves him down the value chain in his old world.

 

The motivations to place pressure on AP & The team has very little to do with the fans, if he is anything like a stereotypical Banker it is about getting the success, making a huge bonus and then leveraging that into an even better personal wealth & power situation.

 

Call it Hunger for success if you like. It CAN burn you up and cause you to make very bad decisions, but we had a Hunger for Mediocrity once before, I know which I prefer.

 

I believe AP is the best choice right now, to rebuild the club we need both that hunger and the "caution", however unless AP understands that driver for Now Now Now results and manages his Boss, then the JPT final will not be enough

[John B]

Entering the debate purely from an observational angle to look for perspective.

 

We are all pretty well aware of the wolrd of "bankers" these days thanks to the media.

 

NC was successful in Banking. The mentality that pervades that industry at the top level is that it is all about "The Deal".

 

The Deal is instant it gets done and the bonus cheque comes in. (Often it matters not if the deal was good for customers or not)

 

NC is now in a "different zone" The "Deal" was done last year and now he has to sit and wait. It is a different game, one the "fast decision making" background has no doubt helped make successful, but it IS an alien environment.

 

So business culture wise, he is likely to be highly "Now" Results Oriented.

 

So, whether you are a "It Takes Time" believer or a "We need it Now" protagonist I feel pretty sure that there will exist a fundamental impatience and a lack of experience in running a 5 year plan.

 

Good deal makers with a track record are worth a great deal of money with even bigger multi-million bonuses. Every extra week NC spends with us moves him down the value chain in his old world.

 

The motivations to place pressure on AP & The team has very little to do with the fans, if he is anything like a stereotypical Banker it is about getting the success, making a huge bonus and then leveraging that into an even better personal wealth & power situation.

 

Call it Hunger for success if you like. It CAN burn you up and cause you to make very bad decisions, but we had a Hunger for Mediocrity once before, I know which I prefer.

 

I believe AP is the best choice right now, to rebuild the club we need both that hunger and the "caution", however unless AP understands that driver for Now Now Now results and manages his Boss, then the JPT final will not be enough

 

Very good post perhaps NC should leave a couple of million for new players and bugger off for six or seven months and let the coaches and manager produce a team.

 

 

He can then return and judge on whether they are doing a good job

[Graffito]

If we finish more than 10 points outside the playoffs, sack pardew. If we finish less than 10 points keep him. With the squad we have, we should quite clearly be in the playoffs.

 

What does Cortese do if we finish exactly 10 points off the play offs - toss a coin? At this stage in the squad's development the focus should be on performances rather than points. I see progress.

[Legod Third Coming]

OP is about "Cortese Reaction", and whilst no one knows for sure, I for one would be delighted if he was upset at the defeat - we all should be, including AP - after all was it not AP that claimed to change the "losing mentality"?

 

We have to make it clear that this result and others (mainly away) are not good enough. Does not mean AP gets sacked, just that he, the players, rest of the staff, clearly understand what is expected of them. If I were NC (and yes I know I am not) I would want to see clear evidence for the rest of this season, to show we will get automatic promotion next season, and so far over the last 10 or so games that is the case despite this defeat. If we fall way short of that then maybe it's time to think of a change over the summer. Perhaps a bit unfair on AP, but the new owners might only maintain their interest as long as we are progressing, and without them where would we be - oh yes back to last summer !

 

Sometimes no matter how good you are at your job, luck evades you for some reason (even Coppell - widely thought to be our first choice, had very poor results in his last period at Reading).

 

I know a fair bit about the financial industry (NC's back ground) and the one golden rule is to mitigate/cover any risk and exposure = there will be a plan B, C, D and even E.

 

I'm not trying to be funny my friend, but do you think the players or manager actually feel that a loss is acceptable/good enough?

 

I think it's pretty inherent in sport that the aim is to win...

 

And I wonder who is more upset at the defeat, NC or AP?

 

I agree with you though, current form is good enough for automatic promotion so it ultimately depends on what objectives NC has set AP and the team. This we can ask him now... I personally seriously doubt he set him a promotion/play-off ultimatum but who knows...

[John B]

?

 

 

And I wonder who is more upset at the defeat, NC or AP?

 

 

 

Probably Alpine;)

Edited 8 March, 2010 by John B

[Window Cleaner]

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I agree with you though, current form is good enough for automatic promotion s.

 

 

Is it ? Really? I"m not at all sure that 22 from 12 is automatic promotion form.

Would extrapolate to 84 ish for the season and that's not a cast iron guarantee of a top 2 place. Certainly there 8 away and only 4 home games in those 12

though. If we can beat Leeds and Swindon at home in our next 2 we will be

on an auto promotion schedule again but on current form we certainly are not.

[torsaint]

Even the invincible managers of the last 50 years Busby Shankley and Ferguson all lost and drew away from home on occasions. Whether Cortese has ever heard of them is the problem. He doesn't have enough football experience. Perhaps he should be replaced not Pardew.

[Saint Fan CaM]

One thing is certain in football - you will not win all your games in a season. We've won a good number while rebuilding. The nature of away games is such that you're more likely to lose those, especially if the conditions are not ideal to your style of play. We've turned over the top team in this division on their pitch. NC may be many things, but he's no fool...he knows this stuff. Chill - enjoy the season - enjoy the home games - enjoy next season when it comes.

[SaintRichmond]

Your over reaction to defeats and/or set backs amaze me.

How the hell have you coped with watching Saints over the last 4 or 5 years ?

 

You are going on like some 18 year old who has very little history of the up and downs of supporting SFC. We used to have Keegan, Channon, Ball, Watson and Nicholl in the team and still lose away game after away game.

 

Winning a home game by 4 or 5 then losing away the next week is like the early 80's except its a different league.

 

Bet you aren't a Lawrie fan either then

 

 

Over reaction to a defeat v Tranmere, after watching the demolition of Walsall and Huddersfield ??? I don't think so

 

Tha last 4-5 years ?? Easy, I started in the mid Fifties, so you've missed a few years

 

An 18 year old ?? I wish. As I said above, my "history" started in the Fifties, and I've seen mich more of the Ups and Downs than you have my friend

 

Winning at home, losing away. I'm very used to that too. You miss my point that re the quality of teams we drop points against

 

Lawrie Mac ?? You are pretty close on that one. People seem to forget that he took over from Ted Bates when we were SIXTH in the League, then we all watched as his Team slid down the League to RELEGATION. That of course was glossed over by the (lucky) FA win over Manure a few seasons later

 

I stand by what I said earlier. The Squad of players that Pardew now has is rated as very very good, yet they have Underachieved

 

If you cannot see that, or will not question the results, then you must be very easily satisfied

 

Apparently Cortese isn't quite as satisfied as you are:cool:

[Red]

Really so why has the world been in recession if the bankers are so wonderful.

 

Cheap shot, but fair play !

 

Actually the world is starting to get out of recession and if you notice the top bankers are not doing that badly again! My point was not that they are god, just that where they can they do have back up plans, and NC will have one.

 

Personally on AP I am undecided - very frustrating we are not consistently playing well, but overall we are in a much better place than a year ago (other than being in L1 of course). However I cannot understand why we (or NC etc.) cannot criticise a poor performance????

[John B]

Over reaction to a defeat v Tranmere, after watching the demolition of Walsall and Huddersfield ??? I don't think so

 

Tha last 4-5 years ?? Easy, I started in the mid Fifties, so you've missed a few years

 

An 18 year old ?? I wish. As I said above, my "history" started in the Fifties, and I've seen mich more of the Ups and Downs than you have my friend

 

Winning at home, losing away. I'm very used to that too. You miss my point that re the quality of teams we drop points against

 

Lawrie Mac ?? You are pretty close on that one. People seem to forget that he took over from Ted Bates when we were SIXTH in the League, then we all watched as his Team slid down the League to RELEGATION. That of course was glossed over by the (lucky) FA win over Manure a few seasons later

 

I stand by what I said earlier. The Squad of players that Pardew now has is rated as very very good, yet they have Underachieved

 

If you cannot see that, or will not question the results, then you must be very easily satisfied

 

Apparently Cortese isn't quite as satisfied as you are:cool:

 

Perhaps you and NC have the wrong outlook

[Glasgow_Saint]

When are people going to stop making out we are still so terribly hard done by. We're the luckiest team in the league bar none.

 

I think the disappointment of the last few years has significantly altered some of our fans ambitions, aspirations and ideas of success and failure.

 

When you have spent more than the whole league combined (signing the leagues two top scorers on the way) you expect to be seriously challenging the top 2 or minimum sitting pretty in the play offs. This season is NEVER going to be seen as a success by anyone but our damaged fans (thankfully now a small percentage)

 

It highlights the importance of NC imo – the guy is new(ish) to SFC and will not be haunted or damaged by past events, and will judge results and performances based on the here and now.

 

We were given a fresh (bright) start in the summer, but too many of our fans are obsessed with the past failings – it’s sad and I almost feel sorry for them.

 

To have such low, low, low expectations…….it must really suck!

 

They talk about post war syndrome – maybe some of our fans are suffering from post Lowe syndrome?

 

Is there a cure? I hope so

 

Someone please help our damaged fans!!

[SaintRichmond]

Perhaps you and NC have the wrong outlook

 

I don't think so

 

If you have a decent car, you expect it to perform well, not stop and start

 

Pardew has been allowed to assemble a decent Squad, but they are underperforming. Why is that ??

 

Krap players ??? No

Motivation ??? Possibly

Tactics ??? On some occasions most definitely

 

Cortese does not have the "British" disease of putting up with Second Best

 

All I hear on here is that, compared to last season, people will be happy is we finish 7th. WHY ???

 

Last year was last year. The bad times ended when we were bought by M Leibherr. From that moment on, it was Positive Thinking

 

In a few months time, when you are watching cricket, just reflect for a moment. For just tha extra bit of effort on the pitch, SINCE Pardew assembled HIS Squad, we could have made the Play Offs

 

But, at least with YOUR outlook, you will be looking forward to another season in the Third level of UK Football

 

Great Outlook that is:cool:

[John B]

I don't think so

 

If you have a decent car, you expect it to perform well, not stop and start

 

Pardew has been allowed to assemble a decent Squad, but they are underperforming. Why is that ??

 

Krap players ??? No

Motivation ??? Possibly

Tactics ??? On some occasions most definitely

 

Cortese does not have the "British" disease of putting up with Second Best

 

All I hear on here is that, compared to last season, people will be happy is we finish 7th. WHY ???

 

Last year was last year. The bad times ended when we were bought by M Leibherr. From that moment on, it was Positive Thinking

 

In a few months time, when you are watching cricket, just reflect for a moment. For just tha extra bit of effort on the pitch, SINCE Pardew assembled HIS Squad, we could have made the Play Offs

 

But, at least with YOUR outlook, you will be looking forward to another season in the Third level of UK Football

 

Great Outlook that is:cool:

 

I dont really see what is wrong with being in League 1 - easy to get a ticket not many big crowds trips to Wembley

 

That said I would expect us to be challenging for Promotion next season but Patience is the key

[SaintRichmond]

I dont really see what is wrong with being in League 1 - easy to get a ticket not many big crowds trips to Wembley

 

That said I would expect us to be challenging for Promotion next season but Patience is the key

 

So you think that Pardew will have the same Squad of players for next season ???

 

Believe it or not, some of them are AMBITIOUS, and will not want to waste another season in Division One

 

Still, if you cannot see anything wrong in being in the UK's Third rated League, then there's not much else to say:cool: