Cortese Reaction...

[RobM]

Except you are still under the impression (delusion) that it is a 5-year plan...

 

It's not my plan, it's the owners plan. It was well documented, discussed and common knowledge back around the takeover. Ignoring it doesn't make it any less true.

[Saint_Jonny]

Must have imagined his very public comments before the Pompey game, then...

 

He would have seen the game and the injustice today just like I did, im sure he wont be a drama queen mong like you about it.

[alpine_saint]

He would have seen the game and the injustice today just like I did, im sure he wont be a drama queen mong like you about it.

 

We'll see.

[alpine_saint]

It's not my plan, it's the owners plan. It was well documented, discussed and common knowledge back around the takeover. Ignoring it doesn't make it any less true.

 

I am not ignoring it, its just there has been some pretty strong evidence floating around that the plan has either changed or was just for public consumption.

[RobM]

I am not ignoring it, its just there has been some pretty strong evidence floating around that the plan has either changed or was just for public consumption.

 

I'd love to see this, any links?

[SFC Forever]

Tranmere did not play better than us. They won through a soft free penalty. We had a shout in the first half for a far better one and again before the rovers one when barnard was shoved in the back.

 

We need a strong athletic midfielder at times who can lift this side of ours over some awkward games. Something that I have grown tired of saying for a very long time.

[Legod Third Coming]

I am not ignoring it, its just there has been some pretty strong evidence floating around that the plan has either changed or was just for public consumption.

 

What evidence is that then?

 

A very successful businessman comes into a League One football club and thinks it's realistic to get to the Premiership in three seasons?

 

And even if that is the case, what makes you believe promotion this season was/is part of the plan?

[alpine_saint]

I'd love to see this, any links?

 

Cortese's statement

Pardew's own admission of the pressure

Rumours on here from people I consider to be ITK.

[alpine_saint]

What evidence is that then?

 

A very successful businessman comes into a League One football club and thinks it's realistic to get to the Premiership in three seasons?

 

And even if that is the case, what makes you believe promotion this season was/is part of the plan?

 

Do you think L1 to CCC is tougher, or CCC to PL ?

 

Which one would you rather have the 2nd attempt at ?

[RobM]

Cortese's statement

Pardew's own admission of the pressure

Rumours on here from people I consider to be ITK.

 

So no, then. No links. Just assumptions. Shame as I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if there were a link, reading, statement or something similar.

 

But Pardew admitting he is under pressure is no surprise, he is a football manager in a team hoping for success.

 

And Cortese's statement said the league was the priority, which we all agree with. Nothing new there, I don't think any manager, director, owner or otherwise would say the cup comes as a higher priority. Doesn't mean they don't want success in it though.

 

If I were in his shoes and I were asked what the priority is, even knowing the five year plan was very much valid, I'd still say the league was the priority.

[CanadaSaint]

It's not my plan, it's the owners plan. It was well documented, discussed and common knowledge back around the takeover. Ignoring it doesn't make it any less true.

 

Rob I suspect that phase one of the five year plan was moved up - at least in Cortese's mind - when he splashed a lot of cash for the kind of talent we now have. Or possibly when his incentive was negotiated with Markus. Who knows? But it does seem from the background chatter that he wants to see much more progress this year than he stated at takeover time.

 

Whatever it was, it made him less tolerant of disappointing results against teams he felt we should be beating. Today was probably the worst of them so we might hear more rumblings from within SMS.

 

We need a strong athletic midfielder at times who can lift this side of ours over some awkward games. Something that I have grown tired of saying for a very long time.

 

I agree completely as long as you're also talking about a real on-pitch leader who can pick us up and inspire/cajole those around him. That inspirational force, for me, is THE missing ingredient, and it is most crucial at places such as Brentford, Wycombe, Exeter and Tranmere.

[RobM]

Rob I suspect that phase one of the five year plan was moved up - at least in Cortese's mind - when he splashed a lot of cash for the kind of talent we now have. Or possibly when his incentive was negotiated with Markus. Who knows? But it does seem from the background chatter that he wants to see much more progress this year than he stated at takeover time.

 

Whatever it was, it made him less tolerant of disappointing results against teams he felt we should be beating. Today was probably the worst of them so we might hear more rumblings from within SMS.

 

I'd be the same, absolutely the same if I'd invested millions. However, I'm not a successful, international and very well respected businessman so I suspect my reaction would not be the same as somebody who is. Cortese wouldn't be where he is now if he made, changed and scrapped plans depending on his mood.

 

If he is, I dare say we are in trouble.

[CanadaSaint]

However, I'm not a successful, international and very well respected businessman so I suspect my reaction would not be the same as somebody who is.

 

Me either!

 

Cortese wouldn't be where he is now if he made, changed and scrapped plans depending on his mood.

 

Or if he was accepting of what he considered to be mediocrity.

 

He's a tough guy to read because not much gets out (bankers!) but I found his spat with the Echo to be extremely insightful in a strange kind of way. Cross him - or fall short of his expectations - and you are deep in the kaka.

 

I can quite imagine what SMS could be like on the day after a disappointing result.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

how many times have people on here heard him interviewed?

 

I listen to solent a lot and can only remember his pre-season interviews.

 

There are loads on here saying they know how he thinks, what he expects, what sort of man he is etc.

 

We don't know.

 

YOU might not know but please do not assume to know what everyone else on here "knows" ..............

[Legod Third Coming]

Do you think L1 to CCC is tougher, or CCC to PL ?

 

Which one would you rather have the 2nd attempt at ?

 

No league is tougher than any other. Only the people in them believe this to be the case.

[Thedelldays]

No league is tougher than any other. Only the people in them believe this to be the case.

you are right...norwich will probably qualify for the CL in 2 years...no problems

[Legod Third Coming]

you are right...norwich will probably qualify for the CL in 2 years...no problems

 

There are currently six? teams who could qualify for the CL, I don't suppose many Aston Villa fans expected to be in the Champions League five years ago or Tottenham fans before this season...

 

People forget, football is relative. Getting out of the Championship is no harder than getting out of League Two.

 

We have a better chance than anyone of course, as we are the richest team oustide of the Premiership by a country mile!

[alpine_saint]

No league is tougher than any other. Only the people in them believe this to be the case.

 

Rubbish, utter rubbish.

 

When trying to get from the CCC to the PL, you have to be better than three teams just reelgated with many PL standard players who also have great f**k-off parachute payments with which to fund their return. The finance difference between L1 and CCC is nowhere near as dramatic

[Legod Third Coming]

Rubbish, utter rubbish.

 

When trying to get from the CCC to the PL, you have to be better than three teams just reelgated with many PL standard players who also have great f**k-off parachute payments with which to fund their return. The finance difference between L1 and CCC is nowhere near as dramatic

 

What teams like us, and Charlton, and Norwich and er... Boro, Reading..., Watford, Derby and er... all those other teams with oodles of cash in parachute payments who so dominate the Championship or not...

[corsacar saint]

QPR are the richest side outside the premiership by a country mile. We are almost certainly second to them in the rich club stakes. They have Bernie Eccleston, and the son in law of a certain L Mittal[Mittal is amongst the ten richest people in the world]

[Legod Third Coming]

QPR are the richest side outside the premiership by a country mile. We are almost certainly second to them in the rich club stakes. They have Bernie Eccleston, and the son in law of a certain L Mittal[Mittal is amongst the ten richest people in the world]

 

True, we are the second richest.

[hypochondriac]

What teams like us, and Charlton, and Norwich and er... Boro, Reading..., Watford, Derby and er... all those other teams with oodles of cash in parachute payments who so dominate the Championship or not...

 

Sorry but it is insane to suggest that getting promoted from this league is of a similar difficulty to getting promoted to the prem.

Edited 7 March, 2010 by hypochondriac

[Legod Third Coming]

Sorry but it is insane to suggest that getting promoted from this league is of a similar difficulty to getting promoted from the prem.

 

Promoted from the Premiership, to where????????????

[Whitey Grandad]

QPR are the richest side outside the premiership by a country mile. We are almost certainly second to them in the rich club stakes. They have Bernie Eccleston, and the son in law of a certain L Mittal[Mittal is amongst the ten richest people in the world]

Let's not confuse the wealth of the owners with the wealth of the club.

[Smirking_Saint]

LV, I think some people on here and, by most accounts, Cortese are asking whether AP has shown that he can get it done.

 

I like AP but I'm not yet convinced about him. This division is full of sides like Tranmere, Wycombe, Brentford, Brighton and Orient; and not all the playing surfaces are great. We will not get out of it until we can beat them consistently on dodgy surfaces as well as good ones. For all our investment, we haven't shown we can do that.

 

What gives us the confidence that this will be much different next year? We might have too much quality and not enough character for this division.

 

I'm all for giving AP some more time but I'm not sure Cortese is that patient.

 

I am 100% in agreement here, i don't think that NC is quite as forgiving as some of our more RTG fans.

 

Also if we can't get the bad pitch/lower rep (whatever it is sub-conciously) problem sorted before next season i fear for our promotion push.

 

I honestly think AP CAN sort it, but he needs to get a finger out and there are only too many 'it was a freak result' excuses you can give

[hypochondriac]

Promoted from the Premiership, to where????????????

 

I meant the CCC.

[Red]

Have to say I am amazed at this debate / thread ??? Of course Cortese and for that matter anyone Saints related should be fuming at this defeat !!! Frankly I do not want a someone in charge who is not upset at losing.

 

Now this does not mean we (or rather NC / ML) should sack AP - just make it clear that results like these are not acceptable. Pressure to deliver, particularly after AP has been backed all the way with massive funding and his choice of player purchase is perfectly normal. Same applies to players who do not perform. This is no different to any other job in society. I for one am glad that our owners echo what the fans feel - when we f**k up, tell it like it is. This is not about sacking AP - this is about saying, it is not good enough, so sort it or eventually I will find someone who can!

 

I think AP is doing a good job, but there is no harm reminding him his job is not secured and is dependent on results. For me he needs to prove we are contenders for automatic promotion next season based on the results for the rest of the year, or we have a new manager in the summer – CONC !!

[Legod Third Coming]

Sorry but it is insane to suggest that getting promoted from this league is of a similar difficulty to getting promoted to the prem.

 

Why??

 

Look at the relative size/wealth of Southampton, Charlton, Norwich, Leeds to a team like Swindon, Colchester, Southend...

 

To win a league you have to win matches - lots of them.

 

Why is it harder for Peteborough to beat West Brom than Tranmere to beat Southampton??

 

Teams drop from the Premiership and lose most of their Premiership players for obvious reasons.

 

I think the 'Championship is the hardest league to get out of' is a total fallacy.

 

Every year three teams manage it and those teams have included: Derby, Reading, West Brom, Watford, Hull... Or do the relegated Premiership teams go straight back? Boro, Southampton, Charlton, Norwich, Reading,.... see how the facts would appear to bulldoze this theory?

 

Only Newcastle are a different class in this year's Championship and they have money without the parachute payment, loads of it.

[eurosaint]

Cortese's statement

Pardew's own admission of the pressure

Rumours on here from people I consider to be ITK.

 

You seriously base your opinion on this, do you ??

Muppet !

[alpine_saint]

You seriously base your opinion on this, do you ??

Muppet !

 

I said people "I consider" which means I know the quality of their contacts.

 

And drop the abuse.

[SaintRichmond]

As I said on the other thread, if Pardew is fired without being given a chance next season it shows impatience on Corteses part rather than inability to produce results on Pardew part.

 

I don't think so

 

It shows Frustration on his part, echoed by many of us

 

The stark fact is that SINCE Pardew has aquired HIS Squad, the results, especially away from home have been poor

 

I'm not interested in "it's a five year plan", "Pardew didn't have enough time at the start of the season"

 

I'm talking about results SINCE he got HIS squad

 

5-1 v Walsall, 5-1 v Huddersfield, we played very very well

 

1-2 v Tranmere UNACCEPTABLE so who do you blame ??? NOT the doorman

 

Pardew is to blame.

 

With all the results going in our favour yesterday, we could have ended up 9 points from 6th (including game in hand )

 

I certainly don't have much heart for Leeds at St Mary's at the moment

 

I'm now convinced that all they are interested in now is the 28th March:cool:

[beatlesaint]

Pardew is to blame.

 

Why ?

Is he to blame for picking the same team that won the last two games so convincingly ?

Is he to blame for Lallana missing a couple of very good chances in one match ?

Is he to blame for the ref not giving us a penalty yet awarding them a very soft one ?

Is he to blame for their player scoring his first goal in five years ?

 

What is he to blame for ?

[Legod Third Coming]

I don't think so

 

It shows Frustration on his part, echoed by many of us

 

The stark fact is that SINCE Pardew has aquired HIS Squad, the results, especially away from home have been poor

 

I'm not interested in "it's a five year plan", "Pardew didn't have enough time at the start of the season"

 

I'm talking about results SINCE he got HIS squad

 

5-1 v Walsall, 5-1 v Huddersfield, we played very very well

 

1-2 v Tranmere UNACCEPTABLE so who do you blame ??? NOT the doorman

 

Pardew is to blame.

 

With all the results going in our favour yesterday, we could have ended up 9 points from 6th (including game in hand )

 

I certainly don't have much heart for Leeds at St Mary's at the moment

 

I'm now convinced that all they are interested in now is the 28th March:cool:

 

Patently not true.

 

On last 8 game form, we are 4th in the league.

 

Since December 1st our league form is:

 

WWWLWLDDWDWDWWL

 

That's 15 games and 28 points - with nine of those games away from home.

 

I would suggest that is probably top two/three form.

[SaintRichmond]

Why ?

Is he to blame for picking the same team that won the last two games so convincingly ?

Is he to blame for Lallana missing a couple of very good chances in one match ?

Is he to blame for the ref not giving us a penalty yet awarding them a very soft one ?

Is he to blame for their player scoring his first goal in five years ?

 

What is he to blame for ?

 

Basically, for being inept

 

Other teams have bad decisions go against them, but still win

 

We have NO LEADER on the pitch, and a bit of a weak lettuce on the side of it

 

WHO built the Team ??? Who has failed to get a loud mouthed ****y individual, ie Bremner or Ball, that can DRIVE a Team on

 

Sorry mate, Pardew took all the PRAISE for Walsall and Huddersfield

Now, he has to take all the FLAK for the inability of HIS Team to overcome the Mighty Tranmere

 

:cool:

[beatlesaint]

Basically, for being inept

 

Other teams have bad decisions go against them, but still win

 

We have NO LEADER on the pitch, and a bit of a weak lettuce on the side of it

 

WHO built the Team ??? Who has failed to get a loud mouthed ****y individual, ie Bremner or Ball, that can DRIVE a Team on

 

Sorry mate, Pardew took all the PRAISE for Walsall and Huddersfield

Now, he has to take all the FLAK for the inability of HIS Team to overcome the Mighty Tranmere

 

:cool:

 

On last 8 game form, we are 4th in the league.

 

Since December 1st our league form is:

 

WWWLWLDDWDWDWWL

 

That's 15 games and 28 points - with nine of those games away from home.

 

As posted above.

 

Tell me, does he get any praise for that ?

Teams do lose football matches you know

[sadoldgit]

There are few certanties in life, but you could have bet your mortage on some of the comments here after a defeat.

 

If someone had said at the Christmas that we would go until 6th March without losing a league game I would have been happy with that.

 

This is Southampton FC we are talking about and very much like the Bristish summer, a few hot days then a thunderstorm.

 

Under every single manager we had ever had we have beaten teams that you would expect us to lose to and lost games that we expected to win. Out of the last 5 league games we have had three excellent results and two disappointing results. Last season would probbaly would have lost most of those games.

 

Ther is onr thing that no manager can guarantee but one thing that successful teams need - consistancy.

 

If it was that easy then all teams would cancel each other out all of the time.

 

AP made a valid point the other day. It is not the end of the world if we don't go up this season. The team will be stronger next year and in a better place to compete if we do go up then.

 

And for all of the moaning minnie drama queens this morning, if you can't deal with supporting a team in the 3rd division perhaps you are supporting the wrong club?

[sadoldgit]

Basically, for being inept

 

Other teams have bad decisions go against them, but still win

 

We have NO LEADER on the pitch, and a bit of a weak lettuce on the side of it

 

WHO built the Team ??? Who has failed to get a loud mouthed ****y individual, ie Bremner or Ball, that can DRIVE a Team on

 

Sorry mate, Pardew took all the PRAISE for Walsall and Huddersfield

Now, he has to take all the FLAK for the inability of HIS Team to overcome the Mighty Tranmere

 

:cool:

 

He did such a poor job against Norwich, Walsall and Huderfield didn't he?

 

But why is it all about Pardew? The players have proved thy can do it against the best, they should take the blame when they don't perform against the poorer teams shouldn't they?

[SaintRichmond]

On last 8 game form, we are 4th in the league.

 

Since December 1st our league form is:

 

WWWLWLDDWDWDWWL

 

That's 15 games and 28 points - with nine of those games away from home.

 

As posted above.

 

Tell me, does he get any praise for that ?

Teams do lose football matches you know

 

Praise ???

 

How many points were we from 6th at Christmas ( before Pardew got his vastly better players ) ?????

 

How many point are we from 6th as at now ????

 

( Please advise what you want me to praise him for )

 

As for pointing out records, just look, all the Teams in the Top six are further away from us than before ..... they must also have got some points

[StVince1966]

the failure to reach the playoffs are ofcourse mainly down to indifferant results especialley away form etc etc. the minus ten really should have been a spur to give the players incentive to out perform teams and a goal to chase down the stronger teams and by xmas really be in the mix for atleast a playoff place!this didnt happen and the manager has to take a fair share of the responsibility for this.his after match comments appear at times to ignore the fact that the players away from home really do let down both him and the fans. the simple fact is this is THIRD division football and really alan pardews team as far as league position are well short of any consistent form.in this world of instant success he has failed to achieve even the most basic results in this division away from home etc to blame the quality of the pitches and refs etc is really a nonsence. should he be given the chance to improve results next season? has he the ability to? can the club risk giving him that chance? to lose at clubs like tranmere if you are a saints fan should never never be acceptable! the owners have my full support in whatever decision they make in the summer.personnalley pardew hasnt had the impact i thought he would create.

[beatlesaint]

Praise ???

 

How many points were we from 6th at Christmas ( before Pardew got his vastly better players ) ?????

 

How many point are we from 6th as at now ????

 

( Please advise what you want me to praise him for )

 

As for pointing out records, just look, all the Teams in the Top six are further away from us than before ..... they must also have got some points

 

Can you tell me why you seem to think the players are blameless ?

As sadoldgit has pointed out the team AP picked were good enough to easily overcome Norwich, Walsall and Huddersfield yet they failed to overcome Tranmere.

I fail to see why you think thats his fault. If he had made four or five changes and they had lost then fair enough but you, as a manager, put out you best eleven, and sometimes they let you down. Thats not just football, thats any sport or any walk of life where you, as an individual, are reliant on others for your success.

 

Its the first League game we have lost in 2010 and its March. When the hell did any Saints team last get this far into the year without recording a League defeat ?

[LVSaint]

LV, I think some people on here and, by most accounts, Cortese are asking whether AP has shown that he can get it done.

 

I like AP but I'm not yet convinced about him. This division is full of sides like Tranmere, Wycombe, Brentford, Brighton and Orient; and not all the playing surfaces are great. We will not get out of it until we can beat them consistently on dodgy surfaces as well as good ones. For all our investment, we haven't shown we can do that.

 

What gives us the confidence that this will be much different next year? We might have too much quality and not enough character for this division.

 

I'm all for giving AP some more time but I'm not sure Cortese is that patient.

 

I didn't really think my post through. I agree, our away form based on **** grounds this season probably does not bode for auto promotion next season.

 

But I was attempting to get across (as you would probably agree) that he has the potential - if he keeps the squad together and maybe brings in a couple more players (to address his failures) - to succeed next season with a clean slate and the experience of a full season under his and his player's belts.

 

I'd imagine that Cortese must realise this and a kneejerk reaction would not by any means lead to instant gratification.

[John B]

Can you tell me why you seem to think the players are blameless ?

As sadoldgit has pointed out the team AP picked were good enough to easily overcome Norwich, Walsall and Huddersfield yet they failed to overcome Tranmere.

I fail to see why you think thats his fault. If he had made four or five changes and they had lost then fair enough but you, as a manager, put out you best eleven, and sometimes they let you down. Thats not just football, thats any sport or any walk of life where you, as an individual, are reliant on others for your success.

 

Its the first League game we have lost in 2010 and its March. When the hell did any Saints team last get this far into the year without recording a League defeat ?

 

I think probably like you that we are doing OK.

 

Once on the field the manager is in the hands of the ref and players and cannot be totally blamed for results like yesterday.

 

On another day yje Ref may have been a little kinder and chances missed could have been scored.

 

If we had not had -10 we would be in a good position to get to the play offs in May and I cannot see why we should not be in with an extremely good chance of promotion next season

[SaintRichmond]

Can you tell me why you seem to think the players are blameless ?

As sadoldgit has pointed out the team AP picked were good enough to easily overcome Norwich, Walsall and Huddersfield yet they failed to overcome Tranmere.

I fail to see why you think thats his fault. If he had made four or five changes and they had lost then fair enough but you, as a manager, put out you best eleven, and sometimes they let you down. Thats not just football, thats any sport or any walk of life where you, as an individual, are reliant on others for your success.

 

Its the first League game we have lost in 2010 and its March. When the hell did any Saints team last get this far into the year without recording a League defeat ?

 

The Team that takes the pitch is the Team Pardew picks, and I assume that HIS Team play to HIS tactics

 

If not, then there is no point in him being there is there ???

 

HIS Team, playing to HIS tactics have lost to Teams like Tranmere, and you seem to think that that is acceptable ?

 

It isn't, and Cortese thinks exactly the same

 

Had we lost to Tranmere at the START of the season, ie, before Pardew REBUILT, then I could accept that the Team was not good enough

 

But we now have a vastly superior Team to then, a Team good enough to hammer Walsall and destroy Huddersfield, and the yeaterday

 

Something is very wrong, Pardew does not seem to have it for playing on inferior pitches against inferior Teams

 

He, and we too, have been spoilt by playing our home matches on such a geat surface as StMary's

 

OK, as you say, it is the first loss this year, but you forget to mention all the stupid DRAWS that we have had

 

At 2 points a time, it is THAT that is going to cost us this season

 

But it should NOT be the case. Player for Player, we ARE better than most of the rest. Pardew just does not have a clue how to play away from home IMHO

[John B]

The Team that takes the pitch is the Team Pardew picks, and I assume that HIS Team play to HIS tactics

 

If not, then there is no point in him being there is there ???

 

HIS Team, playing to HIS tactics have lost to Teams like Tranmere, and you seem to think that that is acceptable ?

 

It isn't, and Cortese thinks exactly the same

 

Had we lost to Tranmere at the START of the season, ie, before Pardew REBUILT, then I could accept that the Team was not good enough

 

But we now have a vastly superior Team to then, a Team good enough to hammer Walsall and destroy Huddersfield, and the yeaterday

 

Something is very wrong, Pardew does not seem to have it for playing on inferior pitches against inferior Teams

 

He, and we too, have been spoilt by playing our home matches on such a geat surface as StMary's

 

OK, as you say, it is the first loss this year, but you forget to mention all the stupid DRAWS that we have had

 

At 2 points a time, it is THAT that is going to cost us this season

 

But it should NOT be the case. Player for Player, we ARE better than most of the rest. Pardew just does not have a clue how to play away from home IMHO

 

Dont you realise that in football sometimes things like missed chances poor tackles and decisions by the Ref completely alter the whole game something the manager cannot control

[Clifford Nelson]

I sincerely hope that he doesn't either now or in the future goes in to replace the manager with another one who merely talks tougher, has different charisma, or with a cv showing a good string of games and maybe a promotion for another team. In the case of the latter I would hope he would explore in detail how that was achieved, and if the answer was through hard work, heart on your sleave, commitment to the cause then not to consider it any further. This is a lottery basis for chosing a manager.

 

We really need to add some strategic backbone to the playing style of the club. Hopefully NC is already working on this by thinking about a future appointment of a Sporting Director. This is the person to put a strategy in place. But until then we shouldn't even consider changing managers.

[sadoldgit]

Can you tell me why you seem to think the players are blameless ?

As sadoldgit has pointed out the team AP picked were good enough to easily overcome Norwich, Walsall and Huddersfield yet they failed to overcome Tranmere.

I fail to see why you think thats his fault. If he had made four or five changes and they had lost then fair enough but you, as a manager, put out you best eleven, and sometimes they let you down. Thats not just football, thats any sport or any walk of life where you, as an individual, are reliant on others for your success.

 

Its the first League game we have lost in 2010 and its March. When the hell did any Saints team last get this far into the year without recording a League defeat ?

 

Exactly mate.

[SaintRichmond]

Dont you realise that in football sometimes things like missed chances poor tackles and decisions by the Ref completely alter the whole game something the manager cannot control

 

EVERY Team has bad decisions go against them at times

 

BUT Good teams rise above that and STILL WIN

 

Don't you realise, that the Team Pardew NOW has is punching well well below it's weight. ( we were closer to the Top Six at Xmas )

 

So why is that ??? Of course players should take some blame, but so should the man who prepares them for the match, ie Mr Pardew

 

Chalk and Cheese

Destroyed Huddersfield

Failed to overcome a "lesser" Team

 

PATHETIC:cool:

[dune]

Promotion is essential next year. Alan Pardew knows this so he'll be aware of what he needs to do.

[Clifford Nelson]

Promotion is essential next year. Alan Pardew knows this so he'll be aware of what he needs to do.

 

What exactly is your point? That promotion wasn't essential this year so that AP didn't have to know what to do or didn't have to apply himself to it? Or whilst he didn't know how to do it this year, you're sure he will know it next year?

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What exactly is your point? That promotion wasn't essential this year so that AP didn't have to know what to do or didn't have to apply himself to it? Or whilst he didn't know how to do it this year, you're sure he will know it next year?

 

Exactly.