Tranmere 2 Saints 1 Reaction Thread

[St Marco]

While yes the ref cost us here, it is not the first time and wont be the last time. The refs in this division are poor, that is to be expected.

But we can't say it is just down to the ref. We had so many chances and did not take them. Lallana sounded like he had a couple of tap ins and blew them.

I rarely listen on the radio because i don't agree with Merrington, i think he is negative and makes things sound far worse then they actually are. This was just another example. It was not because the team played bad but because they didn't take their chances and the ref wouldn't give them the fair chances to do that. That is football. Sometimes teams take the chances, sometimes they don't, prior to this game we scored 10 in the last 2 because we took the chances.

He makes it sound like they were **** poor when really that is not the case. As Chris said the only way Tranmere were going to get anything from the game was by bad refereeing, that happened and it cost us.

To blame the team is wrong and i would not be surprised one bit if Pardew being ****ed off the other week was because of the way Dave commented on the Wycombe game.

 

We always had a hard task to get to the playoffs, this makes it even harder. After Leeds we have a lot easier run in of games compared to the other playoff chasers. But those games are pointless if we don't take our chances.

[Ponty]

Losing to Tranmere is a disgrace.

 

Don't be too down, we managed that as a Prem side.

[Legod Third Coming]

Don't be too down, we managed that as a Prem side.

 

From 3-0 up. Who managed us then Dalek??

[.comsaint]

Don't be too down, we managed that as a Prem side.

 

Don't remind me! I will take that never-ending long drive & horror show second 45 minutes to my grave with me!

[doddisalegend]

Yep, there are better managers for getting out of League 1.We play too much long ball and if you close Lambert down we're f*cked.Happened again today it would seem. Ince is a knob but he'd probably do a far better job than Pardew but I'd go for Darren Ferguson myself if we could get him here .

 

And thats the moment you lost all crediblity:smt009

[VectisSaint]

A mule kicking freekicker with a high degree of accuracy is a big seller in today's football.

Nope, completely disagree. He is not good enough for the Prem, and Champ teams will not be able to better his wages at Saints by enough to make any difference. On top of that we don't need to sell, thats a huge difference between now and the past. If this was his second season with us you might have a point, but he will not have even been here 1 full season. I have absolutely no doubt RL will be playing for Saints next season (unless AP thinks he can do better).

[alpine_saint]

Decided to wait a couple of hours to post following this one, just to see if it changed my demeanour.....

 

Actually, although the number of games is ticking down, the fact that so many of our rivals for 6th lost means we are not much worse off than this morning.

 

OK, thats the balanced part of me, here's for the normal part.

 

F**king sh*t result from f**king **** performance. AP hasnt learned a damned thing about preparing for these banana skin games against lower teams. Blaming the ref simply wont cut it, we werent good enough to win. There were people on the match thread smugly declaring that they dont care if we go behind anymore, FFS !!!

 

If we cannot go mid-winter into NorthernMonkeyLand and grind out results against the dregs of the division, we wont get promoted, this season or next, simple as that.

 

I really fear for what NC is thinking now. Disposing of AP in the summer will be a big mistake, but AP needs to do some soul-searching about next season and how he will manage games against the likes of Tranmere, Brentford, Exeter and Wycombe....

[saint_stevo]

what are we blaming this time? Pitch? Ref? Time we look a little closer to home i reckon......

[Sheff Saint]

Just back from game. Read Pards comments and they are fair. Not enough quality in the final third but probably did enough for an ugly win, but ref was a useless midget ****. Two stonewall pens turned down. Hey hum. Keep the team, tweak it for games like today and we'll walk this league next season!

[ericofarabia]

Yep, there are better managers for getting out of League 1.We play too much long ball and if you close Lambert down we're f*cked.Happened again today it would seem. Ince is a knob but he'd probably do a far better job than Pardew but I'd go for Darren Ferguson myself if we could get him here .

 

Yep .... as their head to heads this season proves :cool:

 

L1 24 Oct SFC 3 MKD 1

 

JPT 20 Jan MKD 0 SFC 1

 

JPT 9 Feb SFC 3 MKD 1

 

HTH.

[Saint Malc]

That was the worst refereeing I've seen for a very long time. *Hopeless. *It certainly affected our balance as every time we touched them the ref gave a foul but when we were bundled over the ref played on and you could see the heads drop :-(. Barnard had a certain penalty (right in front of us) turned down but their penalty was too far away for me to judge.

 

Morgan and Barnard were the pick for me but no one else shone. *Kelvin can't come for a cross and never has been able to which mystifys me as to why he gets so much praise for being inept in such a huge part of a goalkeepers armoury. *The player who disappointed me the most was Lallana. *Everything he touched turned to sh!t in a sort of reverse Midas touch.

 

Oh well, never mind. *The train left Lime Street on time.

 

Bring on dirty Leeds.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

what are we blaming this time? Pitch? Ref? Time we look a little closer to home i reckon......

 

No prizes for guessing who you blame is there...

[Window Cleaner]

Nope, completely disagree. He is not good enough for the Prem, and Champ teams will not be able to better his wages at Saints by enough to make any difference. On top of that we don't need to sell, thats a huge difference between now and the past. If this was his second season with us you might have a point, but he will not have even been here 1 full season. I have absolutely no doubt RL will be playing for Saints next season (unless AP thinks he can do better).

 

Once again we shall see, I think some prem sides who are a bit mute in attack might just well be tempted by him,just for his dead ball skills. I mean for 10/12K

a week you don't even get a reserve player in the Prem. I think his particular

talents would see him do quite well in the Prem actually. I could well imagine him at West Brom or Newcastle or even Forest, you're not trying to tell me that Blackstock,Diouf,Hoilett? or McGoldrick are better strikers are you.

[Sheff Saint]

AP needs to do some soul-searching about next season and how he will manage games against the likes of Tranmere, Brentford, Exeter and Wycombe....

 

No he doesn't. If we'd had a normal August and September those away points would have been just fine.Your views are so high level you could see them from space!

[.comsaint]

Here is a photo of today's ref - taken during the game itself.

 

Look at him. I mean...just look at him!!!

 

Poncy little "I am in charge/I love me" bastid.

 

[Wes Tender]

Bloody typical Saints. Capable of beating the better teams, but also totally and utterly capable of stumbling against the lower down teams. Here we had a gilt-edged opportunity to have drawn ourselves 3 points closer to Huddersfield and we blew it. Dodgey pitches or dodgey referees are just excuses. We made a bad defensive error early on and then missed a succession of chances later on.

 

It isn't over yet provided that we win the next few to get us back on track, but we really ought to be able to beat these bottom teams if we have any realistic hopes of going up, not just this year, but the next too. Make no mistake, this is pretty well as good as a team as we are going to get for next year and perhaps this is indicative that they are not good enough to go up as champions unless they find a way of playing against these lower teams on their crappy pitches and the odd referee that doesn't know what he is doing.

[ericofarabia]

There were people on the match thread smugly declaring that they dont care if we go behind anymore, FFS !!!

 

If we cannot go mid-winter into NorthernMonkeyLand and grind out results against the dregs of the division, we wont get promoted, this season or next, simple as that.

 

....

 

Guilty as charged.

 

Got the expected (hoped for) response within 6 mins .... but didn't kick on from there.

 

The point I was trying to make at the time, was that I really believed that we'd get back into the game and ultimately win, which in seasons gone by, going 1 down within the first few minutes would have had me worrying about the margin of defeat about to be inflicted on us.

 

Not meant to be smug, just a confidence in the team, which unfortunately today didn't materialise :cool:

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Decided to wait a couple of hours to post following this one, just to see if it changed my demeanour.....

 

Actually, although the number of games is ticking down, the fact that so many of our rivals for 6th lost means we are not much worse off than this morning.

 

OK, thats the balanced part of me, here's for the normal part.

 

F**king sh*t result from f**king **** performance. AP hasnt learned a damned thing about preparing for these banana skin games against lower teams. Blaming the ref simply wont cut it, we werent good enough to win. There were people on the match thread smugly declaring that they dont care if we go behind anymore, FFS !!!

 

If we cannot go mid-winter into NorthernMonkeyLand and grind out results against the dregs of the division, we wont get promoted, this season or next, simple as that.

 

I really fear for what NC is thinking now. Disposing of AP in the summer will be a big mistake, but AP needs to do some soul-searching about next season and how he will manage games against the likes of Tranmere, Brentford, Exeter and Wycombe....

 

Yep all the Pardews fault...blah blah blah.

 

I reckon he never makes any attempt to "prepare" the players..

 

What do you reckon he told them before the game?

[alpine_saint]

Bloody typical Saints. Capable of beating the better teams, but also totally and utterly capable of stumbling against the lower down teams. Here we had a gilt-edged opportunity to have drawn ourselves 3 points closer to Huddersfield and we blew it. Dodgey pitches or dodgey referees are just excuses. We made a bad defensive error early on and then missed a succession of chances later on.

 

It isn't over yet provided that we win the next few to get us back on track, but we really ought to be able to beat these bottom teams if we have any realistic hopes of going up, not just this year, but the next too. Make no mistake, this is pretty well as good as a team as we are going to get for next year and perhaps this is indicative that they are not good enough to go up as champions unless they find a way of playing against these lower teams on their crappy pitches and the odd referee that doesn't know what he is doing.

 

Wonder if you will get the same level of sh*t I do for saying the same things.

[Sheff Saint]

That was the worst refereeing I've seen for a very long time. *Hopeless. *It certainly affected our balance as every time we touched them the ref gave a foul but when we were bundled over the ref played on and you could see the heads drop :-(. Barnard had a certain penalty (right in front of us) turned down but their penalty was too far away for me to judge.

 

Morgan and Barnard were the pick for me but no one else shone. *Kelvin can't come for a cross and never has been able to which mystifys me as to why he gets so much praise for being inept in such a huge part of a goalkeepers armoury. *The player who disappointed me the most was Lallana. *Everything he touched turned to sh!t in a sort of reverse Midas touch.

 

Oh well, never mind. *The train left Lime Street on time.

 

Bring on dirty Leeds.

 

Agree. Thought AL was ok. Puncheon was poor 2nd half. Semi impressed me. Agree about KD to a point but don't think he much to do today.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

No he doesn't. If we'd had a normal August and September those away points would have been just fine.Your views are so high level you could see them from space!

 

Not a high level just from behind a keyboard and from 2nd hand

views from people who were listening to the radio...

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

****ing ****.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Wonder if you will get the same level of sh*t I do for saying the same things.

 

Big difference is you only blame the manager

[alpine_saint]

Big difference is you only blame the manager

 

Its his team, he chooses the line up, sets the tactics, makes the substitutions.

[View From The Top]

Nice to see that the usual co*ks who weren't at the game are having their rant.

 

Poor finishing and terrible refereeing did us today.

[saint_stevo]

No prizes for guessing who you blame is there...

 

I blame the manager

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Its his team, he chooses the line up, sets the tactics, makes the substitutions.

 

And if the players don`t execute it.....????

 

Pardews fault...i know....

[ALWAYS_SFC]

I blame the manager

 

But you don`t have a clue tbf..

 

HTH

[alpine_saint]

And if the players don`t execute it.....????

 

Pardews fault...i know....

 

Then he has a communication problem with them, including failing to influence the game through his substitutions.

[alpine_saint]

But you don`t have a clue tbf..

 

HTH

 

You really have a problem tonight, do you know that ? Aside from following me around posting agressive abusive b*ll*cks everywhere I have posted, you are lashing out at others.

 

We werent good enough today, and arent good enough over 46 games next season, as it stands, to get promoted.

 

Deal with it.

[saint_stevo]

But you don`t have a clue tbf..

 

HTH

 

You are the messiah, always right, always. I guess your happy with a loss just because 'we scored 10goals in 4 games and we are just lucky to have a team to support, in AP we trust'

[Legod Third Coming]

Decided to wait a couple of hours to post following this one, just to see if it changed my demeanour.....

 

Actually, although the number of games is ticking down, the fact that so many of our rivals for 6th lost means we are not much worse off than this morning.

 

OK, thats the balanced part of me, here's for the normal part.

 

F**king sh*t result from f**king **** performance. AP hasnt learned a damned thing about preparing for these banana skin games against lower teams. Blaming the ref simply wont cut it, we werent good enough to win. There were people on the match thread smugly declaring that they dont care if we go behind anymore, FFS !!!

 

If we cannot go mid-winter into NorthernMonkeyLand and grind out results against the dregs of the division, we wont get promoted, this season or next, simple as that.

 

I really fear for what NC is thinking now. Disposing of AP in the summer will be a big mistake, but AP needs to do some soul-searching about next season and how he will manage games against the likes of Tranmere, Brentford, Exeter and Wycombe....

 

 

How did Leeds do at Griffin Park?

 

And yet they are second?

 

How did Norwich do there?

 

You take every defeat and use it to prove your bunkum theories.

[alpine_saint]

You are the messiah, always right, always. I guess your happy with a loss just because 'we scored 10goals in 4 games and we are just lucky to have a team to support, in AP we trust'

 

Yep. Zero-ambition, as I said earlier.

[saint_stevo]

Yep. Zero-ambition, as I said earlier.

 

Apparently, you cannot comment unless you meet this specific criteria-

 

A) Been to the game

B) Grateful for what we already have

C) Thankful to have a club to support...etc

D) Think the sun shines out of AP's ass

[70's Mike]

as i see it AP cannot win

if he sends out a side to win and we don't it is bad tactics

if he sends out a team not to lose it is negative.

 

i really belive we should be going to away games not to lose and be hitting teams on the break problem is that means leaving out Lallana or Puncheon or Bernard.

 

image the criticism that will bring

[Legod Third Coming]

as i see it AP cannot win

if he sends out a side to win and we don't it is bad tactics

if he sends out a team not to lose it is negative.

 

i really belive we should be going to away games not to lose and be hitting teams on the break problem is that means leaving out Lallana or Puncheon or Bernard.

 

image the criticism that will bring

 

I agree Mike. I would go 4-5-1 away. And today, given the other results, I would have taken a point as we would have been 1 closer to Huddersfield and Swindon.

 

As it is, we have dropped a point on Milwall but not much else.

 

Pardew is trying to win. Sometimes League One players will miss chances. I wonder myself if this has something to do with them being League One Standard? But I could be wrong...

[Genk]

Once again we shall see, I think some prem sides who are a bit mute in attack might just well be tempted by him,just for his dead ball skills. I mean for 10/12K

a week you don't even get a reserve player in the Prem. I think his particular

talents would see him do quite well in the Prem actually. I could well imagine him at West Brom or Newcastle or even Forest, you're not trying to tell me that Blackstock,Diouf,Hoilett? or McGoldrick are better strikers are you.

 

We've seen teams this year, take Rickie out of the game totally and these are League 1 defenders. Lambert is a League 1 striker/bottom half CCC striker. If Fonte was marking Rickie, I could see Fonte having him in his pocket all day. Premiership striker? No way.

[Saint_Jonny]

Just back from the game myself.

 

1st half was probably fair to the teams to go in at 1-1, Saints probably just edged it but werent awe inspiring, the ref gave a couple of funny decisions but nothing compared to what was to come 2nd half. Barnard was the stand out player 1st half.

 

2nd half Saints looked well up for it and dominated most of the play, ref refused to give anything to Saints as the away crowed got more and more angry. I reckon' all the **** we gave him left him begging for a reason to give Tranmere a penalty. I couldnt really see if it was a pen or not, from where I was it looked like a rovers matey just fell backwards over one of our lads legs, dubious to say the least. Should have been a draw over all but im not too disapointed, was just good to see a game!

 

Worst ref ive seen in my time seeing Saints games.

 

Worst home atmosphere EVER, really really poor. They hardly ever got a song going, although I can see why given 60% or more of the nippers at the game had liverpool or everton shirts on.

 

And to make it worse a pompey fan, a middle aged man came to the game, sat near the away fans all decced out in pompey gear, with his two daughters dressed up aswell with a flag and all sorts. That REALLY wound a few people up, and the home stewards REFUSED to throw the C U N T out. It led to a few saints fans getting themselves nicked, utterly disgraceful, should have been thrown out, or not let in! And to out your daughters through that abuse??! Must have been a skate.

[Window Cleaner]

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And to make it worse a pompey fan, a middle aged man came to the game, sat near the away fans all decced out in pompey gear, with his two daughters dressed up aswell with a flag and all sorts. That REALLY wound a few people up, and the home stewards REFUSED to throw the C U N T out. It led to a few saints fans getting themselves nicked, utterly disgraceful, should have been thrown out, or not let in! And to out your daughters through that abuse??! Must have been a skate.

 

Why would they throw him out, I mean if you went to see Bolton-Pompey in your colours and sat with the Bolton supporters would you expect to be thrown out? They were probably pleased as punch to pocket his £50 or so.

[alpine_saint]

Apparently, you cannot comment unless you meet this specific criteria-

 

A) Been to the game

B) Grateful for what we already have

C) Thankful to have a club to support...etc

D) Think the sun shines out of AP's ass

 

And of course we get called Skates/WUMs/Trolls...

[Genk]

Its his team, he chooses the line up, sets the tactics, makes the substitutions.

 

Agree, but today I think it was simply the fact that his players didn't take their chances. He tried changing it, but bringing on Antonio and Papa didn't really make me feel at the time that we would get another goal. Those were the only two on the bench who could impact the game compared to the rest. Still think the squad lacks depth which can hopefully be sorted in the summer.

[saint_stevo]

And of course we get called Skates/WUMs/Trolls...

 

'where are the negative trolls, Alps, Glasgow, Stevo and TDD'

[Saint_Jonny]

Why would they throw him out, I mean if you went to see Bolton-Pompey in your colours and sat with the Bolton supporters would you expect to be thrown out? They were probably pleased as punch to pocket his £50 or so.

 

He was antagonising the away fans by his presence. Are you honestly saying you would do as you jsut said, wear your saints colours in with the bolton fans right infront of the pompey fans? Would you ****. It was stupid that he wasnt kicked out.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

You are the messiah, always right, always. I guess your happy with a loss just because 'we scored 10goals in 4 games and we are just lucky to have a team to support, in AP we trust'

 

Nope...

 

I just refuse to blame one person everytime we lose/draw..

 

You are a true wally

[70's Mike]

Its his team, he chooses the line up, sets the tactics, makes the substitutions.

 

as it was for the last 2 games

 

me i think we should stop try to be attacking away from home revert to 4-5-1 and bore the pants of the fans

[Window Cleaner]

He was antagonising the away fans by his presence. Are you honestly saying you would do as you jsut said, wear your saints colours in with the bolton fans right infront of the pompey fans? Would you ****. It was stupid that he wasnt kicked out.

 

No you're being completely irrational here, he's a neutral and his presence shouldn't affect our fans.If we get upset because of one middle aged Skate fan and his daughters we need to seek help. It's a free world get over it.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Yep. Zero-ambition, as I said earlier.

 

PMSL

 

Realistic ambition is what most fans have...

[saint_stevo]

Nope...

 

I just refuse to blame one person everytime we lose/draw..

 

You are a true wally

 

Well it's one person who picks the goddam team and chooses the formation everyweek.........unless there is glaring individual errors on the pitch, it is Pardews responsibility

[Window Cleaner]

PMSL

 

Realistic ambition is what most fans have...

 

Yep I've got realistic expectations, League 1's most expensive side, capable of turning over Huddersfield and Norwich with ease shouldn't get derailed on a regular basis by craphole sides from craphole places, how unrealistic is that. One maybe two really bad results well that's hazard for you, that it happens time after time after time it's systemic.

[saint_stevo]

PMSL

 

Realistic ambition is what most fans have...

 

PMSL?

 

Are you a teenage girl? It would explain a lot