Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 How do you know this?:confused: ITK? Speculation? ???? the turn around of players in this league is very high...for all clubs...I cant see saints being any different. more than likely....these players will not be here next year Perry Thomas Jaidi Morgan Connolly Waigo Murty yes I know these are squad players..but it is a squad game next season and we will have more new faces that need to bed in.. it took till jan (apparently) to have a settled side etc..
ericofarabia Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 MLT ... talking about Huddersfields unbeaten run. .....and WE completely battered them. Once a Saint always a Saint. Backs up AP as well. Good man. Realistic views .... echoes AP views .... not the end of the world if we didn't make the playoffs ..... another unambitious man then ..... in the eyes of some.:cool:
Hamilton Saint Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Because they did not perform and get the result. Unless of course AP tells them to miss chances and lose. Yes, that's it. He tells them to win cup games, but lose league games.
Saint_clark Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 the turn around of players in this league is very high...for all clubs...I cant see saints being any different. more than likely....these players will not be here next year Perry Thomas Jaidi Morgan Connolly Waigo Murty yes I know these are squad players..but it is a squad game next season and we will have more new faces that need to bed in.. it took till jan (apparently) to have a settled side etc.. Be fair Delldays, until january we didn't even have a first team that we were happy with.
ericofarabia Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Are Solent doing themselves any favours by getting somebody with a speech impediment reading out sports results ?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I know this because we have at least 3 players who will not tolerate another season at this level; They are good players they will not want to get 3 bales of crap kicked out of them at Tranmere and Wycombe any longer.It's football, there is a precedent. ITK it is then... Isn`t really is it? Just guess work. And who are these players and where will they go? CCC maybe, still very physical in there too
Saint_clark Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I know this because we have at least 3 players who will not tolerate another season at this level; They are good players they will not want to get 3 bales of crap kicked out of them at Tranmere and Wycombe any longer.It's football, there is a precedent. Well i'm sure you will be more than happy to say "I was wrong" when we don't let those three players go.
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Be fair Delldays, until january we didn't even have a first team that we were happy with. says who..we went on a cracking run of games that saw us produce great away form on crap pitches.....
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Yes, that's it. He tells them to win cup games, but lose league games. Ah, thats it...lol...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 the turn around of players in this league is very high...for all clubs...I cant see saints being any different. more than likely....these players will not be here next year Perry Thomas Jaidi Morgan Connolly Waigo Murty yes I know these are squad players..but it is a squad game next season and we will have more new faces that need to bed in.. it took till jan (apparently) to have a settled side etc.. Even a quarter fit Connolly was probably of more use than Oxlade-Chamberlain on the bench today,stupid stupid stupid decision,
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Well i'm sure you will be more than happy to say "I was wrong" when we don't let those three players go. of course but I'm fairly confident that I won't have to though.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Even a quarter fit Connolly was probably of more use than Oxlade-Chamberlain on the bench today,stupid stupid stupid decision, yeah we should have had Mills..... It would have made no difference if he was... Just something to have a go at Pardew... Desperate if you ask me
Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 On the way home, very poor show all over the pitch. The ref was the worst I have seen all season, and we have some poor ones. Only a couple of real chances, should have had one maybe two pens!
VectisSaint Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 We will face next season with an entirely different side,all this we will walk that league next season...well I've heard it all before. No we won't. The only players I think may not be here next year are Lallana and Spiderman, even then they may surprise me and stay, they are not exactly world beaters at present. They will be better off staying with us and getting promotion. As for the rest almost certain every permanent AP signing will still be here. Couple more brought in during the summer and we will be well set.
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 yeah we should have had Mills..... It would have made no difference if he was... Just something to have a go at Pardew... Desperate if you ask me really..who came on for harding and who gave away the penalty..?
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 yeah we should have had Mills..... It would have made no difference if he was... Just something to have a go at Pardew... Desperate if you ask me I'll admit it, I wouldn't be at all sad (or worried) if he wasn't here come Monday; he will be though so I guess I'll get over it. He is a so so manager and we could do so much better.
Saint_clark Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I'll admit it, I wouldn't be at all sad (or worried) if he wasn't here come Monday; he will be though so I guess I'll get over it. He is a so so manager and we could do so much better. Really? :confused:
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 No we won't. The only players I think may not be here next year are Lallana and Spiderman, even then they may surprise me and stay, they are not exactly world beaters at present. They will be better off staying with us and getting promotion. As for the rest almost certain every permanent AP signing will still be here. Couple more brought in during the summer and we will be well set. A mule kicking freekicker with a high degree of accuracy is a big seller in today's football.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 really..who came on for harding and who gave away the penalty..? Soft by all accounts. And this post proves you only want to have a go at pardew.. Never mind the missed chances eh? If those had been taken the rest may ave not occured but we will never know What we do know is it`s AP fault because he made the penalty happen. FFS Any thing to have a go at him...but you did reckon Twotte would keep us up so you view is a bit of a joke tbh.
Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 And a skate with2 kid in the home end, tops on and flag ! Stewards did f all
Saint_clark Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 A mule kicking freekicker with a high degree of accuracy is a big seller in today's football. I'm sorry, i'm a little confused - is WC trying to have a dig at Rickie Lambert with this post?????
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Really? :confused: Yep who.. Bet there is a big queue of "BIG" names waiting and they will do a better job.......Guaranteed Get a new man in and slag him off too...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Really? :confused: Yep, there are better managers for getting out of League 1.We play too much long ball and if you close Lambert down we're f*cked.Happened again today it would seem. Ince is a knob but he'd probably do a far better job than Pardew but I'd go for Darren Ferguson myself if we could get him here .
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Soft by all accounts. And this post proves you only want to have a go at pardew.. Never mind the missed chances eh? If those had been taken the rest may ave not occured but we will never know What we do know is it`s AP fault because he made the penalty happen. FFS Any thing to have a go at him...but you did reckon Twotte would keep us up so you view is a bit of a joke tbh. soft by all accounts...so, you have not seen it then.. im not having a pop at pardew..this result is a bad result..not good enough..simple as that..I dont want pardew out ffs
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I'm sorry, i'm a little confused - is WC trying to have a dig at Rickie Lambert with this post????? No, he is saying he will be sold/leave.
Panda Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 A mule kicking freekicker with a high degree of accuracy is a big seller in today's football. I think you should stick to cleaning windows as being a football supporter is obviously not good for you! Vallium anyone?
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I'm sorry, i'm a little confused - is WC trying to have a dig at Rickie Lambert with this post????? No, I'm saying his talents are very saleable at the moment worse players than he have commended big fees .
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 soft by all accounts...so, you have not seen it then.. im not having a pop at pardew..this result is a bad result..not good enough..simple as that..I dont want pardew out ffs Only the pics from comsaint I will watch the tv coverage...
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Only the pics from comsaint I will watch the tv coverage... agree...even a draw is a poor result IMO...which also does not mean I want pardew out.
LaptopSaint Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Our away form in the league over the last eight games is not much better than relegation form - 1-4-3. God what a waste today was. We've only got five away games left in the league. AP has to get this team to figure out how to win at least three of them - to set us up for next season.
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 The same people who had already written off our play-off chances are now writhing in agony about a sloppy defeat to Tranmere... which was already irrelevant, apparently. I think perhaps we have too many big girls blouses on this forum. People who enjoy despair, maybe? I still think there will be plenty of twists and turns before the end of the season and our chances of going up got a little bit worse today. Not much worse, just a little.
Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 really..who came on for harding and who gave away the penalty..? It was not a pen ! Ref gave it but never should have
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 agree...even a draw is a poor result IMO...which also does not mean I want pardew out. Agreed But some of the blame has to lie with players it cannot all be AP`s fault like some our making out...
Legod Third Coming Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Our away form in the league over the last eight games is not much better than relegation form - 1-4-3. God what a waste today was. We've only got five away games left in the league. AP has to get this team to figure out how to win at least three of them - to set us up for next season. That I agree with. What's changed about our approach away from home? Should we go back to the 4-5-1 that saw us win 3-1 three games on the spin?
ericofarabia Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Okay girls you can all stop your quibbling ... todays feck up was nowt to do with AP ... it was all down to me ... changed my drinking routine from Old Speckled Hen to Fullers ESB .... what was I thinking .... never change a winning combination (and quickly forget all those OSH defeats). But in joint first place with me is the 'tater who proudly announced that only Swindon and us went into today as the only L1 teams unbeaten in 2010, and now it is only us (after the earlier results). :cool:
Clifford Nelson Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 From total strugglers with no chance we have become a side who can produce extraordinary results fairly often, but struggles with a fair frequency away against lowly opposition. That is one variation of being inconsistent, and shows that we're not the final product yet. That's not really surprising news, is it?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Okay girls you can all stop your quibbling ... todays feck up was nowt to do with AP ... it was all down to me ... changed my drinking routine from Old Speckled Hen to Fullers ESB .... what was I thinking .... never change a winning combination (and quickly forget all those OSH defeats). But in joint first place with me is the 'tater who proudly announced that only Swindon and us went into today as the only L1 teams unbeaten in 2010, and now it is only us (after the earlier results). :cool: Hang your head in shame...
The9 Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 (edited) Love the slating of refs despite the fact nobody has actually seen any of the incidents. Well done. I have, now back at our Chester hotel, there was a blatant push on Barnard in the box 2nd half in front of us, Fonte "dive" was a pen as he was pulled back, their pen (at the other end looked like their bloke fell over trying an overhead kick after dinking it over a defender, and the free kick they crossed for the opening goal wasn't a foul either. When the ref gets booed off and called "cheat" repeatedly and various versions of "2-1 to the referee", "you're not fit to referee", "who's the midget in the pink?" and we spent most of the second half sarcastically cheering any decision in our favour, that kind of stuff suggests it wasn't the team at fault. Pitch wasn't perfect but it was dry and mostly flat if a bit bare, we played decent football and when we didn't it was a lack of tempo rather than anything else. Probably deserved to win 2-1ish on another day, but with our squad we need to be getting out of sight so terrible refs still can't hurt us. We're clearly one of the best 8 teams in the league, the best on our day, too many off days away though and we need to move the ball quicker (Puncheon in particular was hogging it a little). But we did start with a 20 point handicap on the top sides by the time we'd got started... Edited 6 March, 2010 by The9 iPhone changed "dink" to "dunk" :)
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I have, now back at our Chester hotel, there was a blatant push on Barnard first half in front of us, Fonte "dive" was a pen as he was pulled back, their pen (at the other end looked like their bloke fell over trying an overhead kick after dunking it over a defender, and the free kick they crossed for the opening goal wasn't a foul either. When the ref gets booed off and called "cheat" repeatedly and various versions of "2-1 to the referee", "you're not fit to referee", "who's the midget in the pink?" and we spent most of the second half sarcastically cheering any decision in our favour, that kind of stuff suggests it wasn't the team at fault. Pitch wasn't perfect but it was dry and mostly flat if a bit bare, we played decent football and when we didn't it was a lack of tempo rather than anything else. Probably deserved to win 2-1ish on another day, but with our squad we need to be getting out of sight so terrible refs still can't hurt us. We're clearly one of the best 8 teams in the league, the best on our day, too many off days away though and we need to move the ball quicker (Puncheon in particular was hogging it a little). But we did start with a 20 point handicap on the top sides by the time we'd got started... Thanks for the "real" view.
opthomps Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 a real chance to close the gap today. However as i predicted before the game the fact that its southampton means we get this sort of result all to often. That for me means play offs are beyond us. I do wonder why we were so poor though
geoffnut Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Lets put this game behind us (look at Norwich since we beat them) and enjoy the rest of the season with hopefully a lot more wins. Play offs were always going to be difficult to achieve but i suppose we had a bit of a chance if we could win at crap places like Wycombe, Exeter, Brentford and Tranmere. Give AP a chance and if he doesn't achieve next season then we'll have to see.
.comsaint Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Agreed But some of the blame has to lie with players it cannot all be AP`s fault like some our making out... Pardew said on Radio Solent that "a couple of players under-performed today" [or words to that effect]. Seems to me that we don't seem to be able to win games when that happens. To be fair to AP - he gives the lads a game plan/formation & a certain job to do before each game as they're all 'different games'. It's then down to the players to all give 100% once they cross that white line. If they don't - ala today at Tranmere - then the blame lays with the players underperforming. The flip side of the coin of course is that if a player or two isn't performing - then changes need to be made in the form of substitutes. And today - I think Pardew left it too late to change things - especially if "1 or 2" were under-performing long before changes were actually made on 80-odd minutes. I'm probably one of Pardew's biggest fans/supporters out there btw - and dearly want him to stay for reasons too numerable to mention. I do wish...just sometimes...when things aren't going quite right (like today) - he'd ring the changes 20 mins to go rather than 10!!!
oejwells Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Just got back Ref may not have been perfect but i dont think we should have got either of the penalty shouts, the pitch wasnt too bad and though there penalty didnt look a penalty from the far end, if there was a foul then it was an unnesseccary challenge. Also thought Lallana and Puncheon were trying to be abit too clever today, obviously confident from the last two games but sometimes its better to calm things down and play the safe ball.
The9 Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 The penalty claim in pictures: you decide! Looks like I had a better view from the back row of the stand at the opposite end than the ref did 10 yards away with Scheiderlin stood in the way. Absolutely, definitely wasn't a penalty and those pics show why he gave it, because he couldn't see.
Denzil Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 And your reaction to the win at Norwich and the results 5 goal results against Walsall and Huddersfield was? Some supporter you are! You have to take the good AND the bad. Today was disappointing but NOT pathetic. Losing to Tranmere is a disgrace.
corky morris Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 Just back - 2-1 to the referee!!!!!!!! We did enough to win - JUST. Lallana & Barnard missed 2 good chances. We had 2 defo pens. 1 for a push & Fonte was clipped. There was also a clear foul on Barnard by Broomes as he is running through whose arm is accross his body stopping him from getting in front of him. He kept saying to Saints players that the players were coming together! Utter joke. The ref was shocking totally shocking. In the first half Tranmere were repeatedly all over us for headers often watching the man & not interested in the ball. Their first goal did not look like a free kick in the first place, but we defended badly leaving their centre half to be marked by Puncheon. A number of players did not play well including Puncheon, Lallana & Hammond. I dont know what Lambert has to do to get a free kick? As far as I am concerned our play off push is over & we win need to learn to win ugly.
Window Cleaner Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 The Play-offs are out the window me thinks Urgh another 59 games of League 1 football then
Ruffo Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 tbh I expected a loss to Tranmere as they always seem to pull on out the bag against us. A real Saints bogey team. I am not going to forget getting into the playoffs as with every season (bar the last season with admin) we are always in with something in the last game, whether relegation or promotion.
Seaford Saint Posted 6 March, 2010 Posted 6 March, 2010 I am back from the gym and I am still gutted...
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