Tranmere 2 Saints 1 Reaction Thread

[Leicestersaint]

Very VERY disappointing.

[.comsaint]

Hmmmmm...

 

1) Injury?

 

2) Argument?

 

3) Was he booked?

 

4) Betting scandal?

 

odd to have so many reasons over a sub. and odd to bring it up - was he asked that particular question?

 

Interviewer asked what the reasons were for taking Harding off [as he always plays the full 90 minutes I guess] and was it a knock/injury? Pards said he took him off "for 3 or 4 reasons that he wanted to keep to himself."

 

???

[up and away]

Nevermind. I don't agree with those who say that the players signed expecting promotion. We should be fully focused on next season - and if Cortese fires Pardew before next season, it is due to his impatience rather than Pardews inability to produce results.

 

If Pardew goes, it will be because he prioritised the cups instead of the league in combination with results. I don't think he will get rid of Pardew, but further results could have an influence.

 

 

Reality check for those who were in cloud cuckoo land and thought we would still make it to the play-offs. We blew it at Exeter, not today. Still hurts to lose, long time since we did (apart form the Skates which didn't really matter)

 

No biggy, this was always going to happen somewhere along the line, surprised it was so soon and as you say Exeter it was. Same old problem, can't get control in midfield and everything disappears. I was pretty sure this was coming, as to gain control in midfield we have had to put in so much effort. This is not a problem solved and will keep recurring until the underlying issues are addressed.

[.comsaint]

 

No biggy, this was always going to happen somewhere along the line...

 

True. A week into the month of March & our first league defeat of 2010.

 

Like most though - I f@cking hate my weekends when Saints lose!

[CanadaSaint]

Judging by the radio commentary, Harding was a non-factor for a long time before he was withdrawn. It sounds like there might be some troubling reasons for that.

 

Lallana missed two supposedly straightforward chances at vital times. I have to say "again", because he can't seem to score at vital times.

 

We left our changes too late and then conceded the penalty right after making them.

 

We just took great "momentum" and stuck a knife right in it.

 

Cortese, I fear, is going to show AP his impatient/impulsive side - hopefully only verbally.

[Under Weststand]

Pards on Radio Solent:

 

"Very disappointed"

 

"Couldn't find the quality"

 

"Ref had lost it. Spoke to him at HT as I wasn't happy with him"

 

"Quality wasn't as good as the last 2 games"

 

"We created enough chances to win"

 

"We switched off for their goal"

 

"1 or 2 were below thier best"

 

"We gave a good account of ousselves - ref didn't help"

 

"No problem with our fitness"

 

"Disappointed tonight. It was a game we expected to win & wanted to win"

 

"We have to bounce back against the best team in the league"

 

"Harding taken off for 3 or 4 reasons that I want to keep to myself"

Now that is a strange comment, they indicated that he was injured on the commentary. I wonder why he threw that out without clarifying it?

[broncoboy]

No matter what the standard of the refereeing was if we really had a team that could challenge for promotion they would not have lost to-day and not dropped points earlier.

 

The table doesnt lie (+ 10) . We have not done enough to get to the playoffs.

 

So it appears League 1 is our standard.

 

Sometimes AP sounds really lame.

 

We have had years of failure and bumping along points below the playoff places is hardly brilliant after the money spent and RL brought in.

 

AP needs his arse kicked. There is no reason to believe it will be any better next season.

 

To believe that is wishful thinking

 

By the way the JPT is no dead cert either

 

Can't beat ****ing Tranmere hardly acceptable after the money spent or Exeter or or or

[Katalinic]

True. A week into the month of March & our first league defeat of 2010.

 

Like most though - I f@cking hate my weekends when Saints lose!

 

It is crap isn't it? I have to go out tonight and be sociable. Now we have lost I don't want to go out at all.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Players have not delivered today..simple as that but it will be

all pardews fault of course....

 

Over to the ridiculous cortese reaction thread...

[hackedoff]

What makes you think we'll do any better on these pitches against crap sides next season?

 

Good question, we need a side that can " dig out " results as much as thrash teams like we did over the last two games. Not sure that we can do that with this side.

[beatlesaint]

Now that is a strange comment, they indicated that he was injured on the commentary. I wonder why he threw that out without clarifying it?

 

He obviously wasn't doing the things he was expected or asked to do, what else could it be during the course of a game ?

[Window Cleaner]

Now that is a strange comment, they indicated that he was injured on the commentary. I wonder why he threw that out without clarifying it?

 

He wanted to get Seaborne on I expect and chose an experiment at left-back to do it.If Harding had nothing physically wrong with him to justify that it was a f*cking dopey decision.Like putting Oxlade Chamberlain on the bench at a hell hole like Tranmere instead of Mills

[corsacar saint]

Why after seeing the WW performance am I not surprised by this result. I am as totally fed up by this result, as I was elated by the result and performance the other night.

[thesaint sfc]

Harding is sh1t. That is why he was taken off.

[Um Bongo]

To sack Pardew before Leeds & Swindon would be suicidal.

[Whitey Grandad]

Pards on Radio Solent:

 

"Harding taken off for 3 or 4 reasons that I want to keep to myself"

 

Not doing what he was told?

[Pilchards]

to have a chance we had to pretty much win all our remaining games, and hope for some slip ups. It ended today.

 

I'm not too bothered about not going up this year, as Pardew has said ''another year of winning will do no harm'' - it should be a great laugh next year.

 

But whether pardew is here to deliver that, is another question all together.

 

I'm not sure it will be a laugh next season as we will still struggle against teams lower than us on **** pitches.

[CanadaSaint]

Good question, we need a side that can " dig out " results as much as thrash teams like we did over the last two games. Not sure that we can do that with this side.

 

That's the part that scares me. Sides lie Wycombe, Brentford, Brighton and Tranmere will always be in this division. Until we can beat them consistently, so will we.

 

There's such a thing as having too much quality and not enough character, and it worries me greatly that this is where we might be.

[Window Cleaner]

To sack Pardew before Leeds & Swindon would be suicidal.

 

why? we have nothing left to play for this season.

[Whitey Grandad]

I'm not sure it will be a laugh next season as we will still struggle against teams lower than us on **** pitches.

I'm looking forward to it already.

 

From now on we shall finish in a higher position every season, and I haven't said that for a long while.

[ericofarabia]

Missed a few minutes on Saints Player/Solent.

 

Just wondering if they read my text out regarding them slagging off somebody (Sue from Shirley or something like that) who complained about the amount of Skatesmuff coverage.

 

I wonder if they realise that many of us pay good money to listen to supposedly EXCLUSIVE LIVE COVERAGE OF SAINTS GAMES.

 

Couldn't even get any coverage till 20 mins to KO and even then no mention of Saints till 1 min to KO. :cool:

 

P!ss Poor.

[Cabrone]

Not acceptable to be turned over by another team that cost tuppence.

 

Playoffs are over and if we don't learn how to get ruthless then we are going to be spending a lot more time in this league than we'd like.

 

Lallana needs some finishing practice too.

[Window Cleaner]

I'm not sure it will be a laugh next season as we will still struggle against teams lower than us on **** pitches.

 

it wasn't even a particularly bad pitch. We have a player who wastes 2 or 3 chances a game, it will happen as long as he does that.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

He wanted to get Seaborne on I expect and chose an experiment at left-back to do it.If Harding had nothing physically wrong with him to justify that it was a f*cking dopey decision.Like putting Oxlade Chamberlain on the bench at a hell hole like Tranmere instead of Mills

 

You really think it was an experiment....joking surely.....no ridiculous

I have a lot of time for your posts usually but if you meant that....?

 

No harm in putting the lad on bench as he was hardly likely to get on

unless we had run away with it like tuesday.

 

As for Mills...nothing special about him,runs a bit and falls over

or gets muscled out real easy...time will improve him i hope.

[Katalinic]

I'm not sure it will be a laugh next season as we will still struggle against teams lower than us on **** pitches.

 

I would imagine we will strengthen further in the summer and get rid of the dross. We have a core of 12/13 decent players and will probably sign 5 or 6 more. The thing that worries me is who we may lose.

[hackedoff]

Judging by the radio commentary, Harding was a non-factor for a long time before he was withdrawn. It sounds like there might be some troubling reasons for that.

 

Lallana missed two supposedly straightforward chances at vital times. I have to say "again", because he can't seem to score at vital times.

 

We left our changes too late and then conceded the penalty right after making them.

 

We just took great "momentum" and stuck a knife right in it.

 

Cortese, I fear, is going to show AP his impatient/impulsive side - hopefully only verbally.

 

Lallana does seem to miss a good percentage of his chances, and always one a game it seems.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Not acceptable to be turned over by another team that cost tuppence.

 

Playoffs are over and if we don't learn how to get ruthless then we are going to be spending a lot more time in this league than we'd like.

 

Lallana needs some finishing practice too.

 

Irrelevant..can happen to any team and often does

[Nexstar]

I hope during pre-season we go to somewhere in eastern europe or the north, just to learn to play on crap pitches.

[Window Cleaner]

You really think it was an experiment....joking surely.....no ridiculous

I have a lot of time for your posts usually but if you meant that....?

 

No harm in putting the lad on bench as he was hardly likely to get on

unless we had run away with it like tuesday.

 

As for Mills...nothing special about him,runs a bit amd falls over

or gets muscled out real easy...time will improve him i hope.

 

Is Seaborne proven at left-back? when was the last time he played there then.

I personally would never sub a specialist wide defender for a make shift one with no valid reason.I think Seaborne gave away the penalty didn't he?

[Katalinic]

Lallana does seem to miss a good percentage of his chances, and always one a game it seems.

 

He really does need to work on his finishing - too indecisive and powder puff in that department currently.

[Katalinic]

Is Seaborne proven at left-back? when was the last time he played there then.

I personally would never sub a specialist wide defender for a make shift one with no valid reason.I think Seaborne gave away the penalty didn't he?

 

He played left back for Exeter a fair bit.

[.comsaint]

The penalty claim in pictures: you decide!

 

 

[ericofarabia]

I blame the score centre for getting my hopes up and then f*cked them.

 

I really feel for anybody who couldn't actually hear the commentary and had to rly on the Text updates ... I'm often in that situation.

 

Even Saints Player Text results had us 2-1 up and only 11 points with 2 games in hand off 6th place :cool:

 

Mind you listening to the commentary wasn't a stroll in the place.:cool:

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Is Seaborne proven at left-back? when was the last time he played there then.

I personally would never sub a specialist wide defender for a make shift one with no valid reason.I think Seaborne gave away the penalty didn't he?

 

I am guessing it was a combination of a slight injury and his

performance but doubt it made a lot of difference .

 

I believe it was Seaborne but don`t know for sure but it was apparently

as very soft decision,again i don`t know for sure.

 

edit

 

To say it was soft is an understatement

Edited 6 March, 2010 by ALWAYS_SFC
Looked at above pics (comsaint)

[Denzil]

Pathetic.

[Panda]

The prospects of the play-offs for this year were over weeks ago. After three good games in four we are back to wrist slashing again. For goodness sake, this is football; if it was clear cut and we beat everyone we play then what would be the point? You win some, you lose some. Last week we won two scoring five in each, today we lost. That's football and if you can't take it find another interest.

[Window Cleaner]

He really does need to work on his finishing - too indecisive and powder puff in that department currently.

 

I looked at what he does on the Walsall and Huddersfield videos, he uses his right foot when he should use the left, he changes the angle and timing by doing so.

[Window Cleaner]

I am guessing it was a combination of a slight injury and his

performance but doubt it made a lot of difference .

 

I believe it was Seaborne but don`t know for sure but it was apparently

as very soft decision,again i don`t know for sure.

 

yes yes it was Seaborne, clumsy centre half's tackle on a winger who made a 4 course dinner out of it.

[Panda]

Pathetic.

 

And your reaction to the win at Norwich and the results 5 goal results against Walsall and Huddersfield was? Some supporter you are! You have to take the good AND the bad. Today was disappointing but NOT pathetic.

[captainchris]

Its a valid point and we are going to have to get used to it. Today is not good enough and hopefully we will react the right way and learn from it.

 

In a way, we could need these things to happen to us, so that we successfully learn and change our ways for next season.

 

However, this does not help the potentially harmful pressure that will be heaped on Pardew and the team when they next play away from home.

 

Look - this 'next season' stuff is getting stupid. Why, just because it's 'next season' and not this starting with now? If you can't do it now why should next season be any different? I put the question because it's logical. Next season talk is based purely on emotion and hope. If you're going to do something different next year why not do it now?

[ALWAYS_SFC]

yes yes it was Seaborne, clumsy centre half's tackle on a winger who made a 4 course dinner out of it.

 

Have you seen the video?

[Window Cleaner]

Have you seen the video?

 

Not yet, but I've seen the photos higher up, I can see what happened.

[Window Cleaner]

Look - this 'next season' stuff is getting stupid. Why, just because it's 'next season' and not this starting with now? If you can't do it now why should next season be any different? I put the question because it's logical. Next season talk is based purely on emotion and hope. If you're going to do something different next year why not do it now?

 

We will face next season with an entirely different side,all this we will walk that league next season...well I've heard it all before.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Not yet, but I've seen the photos higher up, I can see what happened.

 

Oh right:rolleyes:

 

suits your view perhaps.

 

I will make a full decision after watching it on telly.

 

Although i may not bother as it won`t make a bit of difference

to today.

 

We lost... end of

 

AP`S fault in the knee jerkers view but players in mine.

[ericofarabia]

Missed a few minutes on Saints Player/Solent.

 

Just wondering if they read my text out regarding them slagging off somebody (Sue from Shirley or something like that) who complained about the amount of Skatesmuff coverage.

 

I wonder if they realise that many of us pay good money to listen to supposedly EXCLUSIVE LIVE COVERAGE OF SAINTS GAMES.

 

Couldn't even get any coverage till 20 mins to KO and even then no mention of Saints till 1 min to KO. :cool:

 

P!ss Poor.

 

Just heard .... eric from dubai texted earlier ... and didn't read my text out but read somebody elses out about Pompey winning :mad:

 

FECKER :mad:

 

Oh dear MLT coming on now ... NC ... queue slagging off of everything said..

[Hamilton Saint]

If Pardew goes, it will be because he prioritised the cups instead of the league in combination with results. I don't think he will get rid of Pardew, but further results could have an influence.

 

 

 

Pardew didn't "prioritise" the cups. Whatever that means. He just had the nerve to encourage the players to win their cup games. Unfortunately, the team took him at his word and kept winning.

 

Everyone knows that if they hadn't won all those cup games, they'd be in an automatic promotion position by now. Pardew out.

[Thedelldays]

Oh right:rolleyes:

 

 

 

AP`S fault in the knee jerkers view but players in mine.

why are you not a knee jerker for blaming the players..?

[ALWAYS_SFC]

We will face next season with an entirely different side,all this we will walk that league next season...well I've heard it all before.

 

How do you know this?:confused:

 

ITK?

 

Speculation?

 

????

[ALWAYS_SFC]

why are you not a knee jerker for blaming the players..?

 

Because they did not perform and get the result.

 

Unless of course AP tells them to miss chances and lose.

[Window Cleaner]

How do you know this?:confused:

 

ITK?

 

Speculation?

 

????

 

I know this because we have at least 3 players who will not tolerate another season at this level; They are good players they will not want to get 3 bales of crap kicked out of them at Tranmere and Wycombe any longer.It's football, there is a precedent.