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oxfordshire_saint

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Funny thing is spotting the fans wearing those scarfs with their replica shirts! Don't have a clue what they're protesting about!

 

Exactly, fools the lot of them!

 

I'm betting that a whole heap of them only bought the scarves because it's flavour of the month up there at the moment, rather than having any deep desire to oppose their current regime.

 

They'll all be renewing their season tickets next year, buying their yearly replica shirts and pumping even more money into the Glazer coffers.

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Although to be fair to their fans, they did object and protest quite strongly from the beginning of the take-over process.

 

At least they didn't sit back and close their eyes to where the magic money was coming from...

 

Can't stand them but they are fighting a cause which is stupid ownership rules

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Exactly, fools the lot of them!

 

I'm betting that a whole heap of them only bought the scarves because it's flavour of the month up there at the moment, rather than having any deep desire to oppose their current regime.

 

They'll all be renewing their season tickets next year, buying their yearly replica shirts and pumping even more money into the Glazer coffers.

 

100% This.

 

 

Clueless sheep. Which I guess is why they are Man Utd supporters in the first place.

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100% This.

 

 

Clueless sheep. Which I guess is why they are Man Utd supporters in the first place.

 

I'd love to do a survey of Man U fans - I reckon the majority of them couldn't tell you the name of Newton Heath in the first place...

 

...and half of them can't even speak English...

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JackanorySFC

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People can say what they like about United but their fans certainly know how to protest! Think it looks superb as it allows the "silent majority" to protest, has got huge amounts of media attention too.

 

Also, a couple of things. The most recent survey into Premier League fans showed Man U had the highest % of ST holders who came from within 10 miles of the ground. Anyone who spends any time in or around Manchester will vouch for the quality of their local support. Easily the most vocal fans I've seen at St Marys too, loads of different songs and full of "lads" in the away end. Acted like complete c*nts outside the ground after the relegation game though!!!!

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Sour Mash

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100% This.

 

 

Clueless sheep. Which I guess is why they are Man Utd supporters in the first place.

 

As Jackanory stated above, Man Utd's match going support is probably some of the least "sheep" like in the country. Of course they have loads of clueless fools that follow them, but that will always be an unfortunate side-effect of them being a big/very successful club/side. United will always be one of the sides I "hate", but their regular match going support is much more clued up than most.

 

Would also take my hat off to them for all the various anti-Glazier stuff they've done, much better than sitting gormlessly letting their club crumble without challenging their dodgy owners like the skates "support" did.

 

I do think they're slightly hyporitical though, as they were happy to enjoy the beneficial side of the commercialisation of football, so a bit hard to sympathise when it comes back to bite them.

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LA77

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I remember when we knocked them out on pens, when Flowers ran the length of the pitch. The ground was barely half full. They were crap until sky came along and pumped loads of money in. I hope they implode!

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Exactly, fools the lot of them!

 

I'm betting that a whole heap of them only bought the scarves because it's flavour of the month up there at the moment, rather than having any deep desire to oppose their current regime.

 

They'll all be renewing their season tickets next year, buying their yearly replica shirts and pumping even more money into the Glazer coffers.

 

I think this season is the first that they didn't sell their full quota of season tickets. It will be interesting to see if that trend continues into next season.

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It would appear that there are others that would also like to oust the Glaziers from OT as well:

 

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Top-City-Financiers-In-Secret-Meeting-Over-Bid-For-Manchester-United-According-To-Sky-Sources/Article/201003115563949?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15563949_Top_City_Financiers_In_Secret_Meeting_Over_Bid_For_Manchester_United%2C_According_To_Sky_Sources

 

If they don't raise the billion, perhaps they could think about our blue friends down in 'bargain basement'; surely one of them has a quid to spare...!

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La BoIS Saint

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Although to be fair to their fans, they did object and protest quite strongly from the beginning of the take-over process.

 

At least they didn't sit back and close their eyes to where the magic money was coming from...

 

Can't stand them but they are fighting a cause which is stupid ownership rules

 

The ones that did went off to form FCUM. The sheep stayed behind.

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Started at Redissue fanzine as "Green or gold till they die or fold", is now softening... but here's a guest article by the Redissue webmaster on another Man U site explaining...

 

http://www.strettyender.com/green-gold-til-they-die-fold-3

 

No doubt there are endless articles complaining about Glazer's debt hampering their ability to outspend everyone else. Shame.

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Red_No_7

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I remember when we knocked them out on pens, when Flowers ran the length of the pitch. The ground was barely half full. They were crap until sky came along and pumped loads of money in. I hope they implode!

 

:confused:

 

united have been the best supported club in england since WWII, (bar 2 seasons) which includes 27 years without the title.

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:confused:

 

united have been the best supported club in england since WWII, (bar 2 seasons) which includes 27 years without the title.

 

Maybe so, but there wasn't 76,000 at old trafford that night. And until sky came along united were not that good. Simple as that!

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:confused:

 

united have been the best supported club in england since WWII, (bar 2 seasons) which includes 27 years without the title.

That's all well and good, but have you ever met a Man Utd supporter who isn't a complete ballbag?

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Maybe so, but there wasn't 76,000 at old trafford that night. And until sky came along united were not that good. Simple as that!

 

Eh? Were Sky around when they were the 1st English club to win the European Cup? Can't believe the petty jealousy around United, you could certainly apply similar logic to Newcastle and Chelsea re post Sky/ success attendences but you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to United. The reason they wern't getting 76k 5/10/15/20 years ago is because their ground couldn't fit that many in, they have sold out on a regular basis for decades - mainly (as stated above) to locals too at reasonable prices. Going back to the 60's their away support has been huge all over the country (again, the vast majority of their travelling support are ST holders from Manchester - despite the incredilbly original "do you come from Manchester" chants they get everywhere they go).

 

I first went to OT around 92/93 (I think, happy to stand corrected if anyone remembers the game) we went 1nil up through Banger and Giggs scored 2 goals that had a hint of offside about them! This was before Sky etc and the ground was well and truely sold out that day. I've seen Saints up there 4/5 times since and despite us being one of the least glamourous games of the season for a Club like Man u they never failed to sell out.

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Eh? Were Sky around when they were the 1st English club to win the European Cup? Can't believe the petty jealousy around United, you could certainly apply similar logic to Newcastle and Chelsea re post Sky/ success attendences but you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to United. The reason they wern't getting 76k 5/10/15/20 years ago is because their ground couldn't fit that many in, they have sold out on a regular basis for decades - mainly (as stated above) to locals too at reasonable prices. Going back to the 60's their away support has been huge all over the country (again, the vast majority of their travelling support are ST holders from Manchester - despite the incredilbly original "do you come from Manchester" chants they get everywhere they go).

 

I first went to OT around 92/93 (I think, happy to stand corrected if anyone remembers the game) we went 1nil up through Banger and Giggs scored 2 goals that had a hint of offside about them! This was before Sky etc and the ground was well and truely sold out that day. I've seen Saints up there 4/5 times since and despite us being one of the least glamourous games of the season for a Club like Man u they never failed to sell out.

 

 

 

Keep your hair on ffs. I'm not saying they are not well supported. Until sky came along they were going through lean times and they were not the product they are today. Football changed once sky came along. As for the "jealous" remark a massive LOL@ that. I prefer watching Saints in league 1 as we are now, than I did when we were in the premiership. I'm old enough and knowledgeable enough about football without your history lesson. United do have great support and are a great club, I was just pointing out the fact that they (as much as other clubs) have attracted the new breed of post euro 96 JCL's. I also saw loads of their fans politely clap Rooney's winner in the cup final vs Villa.

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Keep your hair on ffs. I'm not saying they are not well supported. Until sky came along they were going through lean times and they were not the product they are today. Football changed once sky came along. As for the "jealous" remark a massive LOL@ that. I prefer watching Saints in league 1 as we are now, than I did when we were in the premiership. I'm old enough and knowledgeable enough about football without your history lesson. United do have great support and are a great club, I was just pointing out the fact that they (as much as other clubs) have attracted the new breed of post euro 96 JCL's. I also saw loads of their fans politely clap Rooney's winner in the cup final vs Villa.

 

why?

 

because saints are winning?:D

 

did the camera instantly pan on to the supporters then? cos i thought it showed rooney celebrating, then the after celebration amongst the fans...

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I was just pointing out the fact that they (as much as other clubs) have attracted the new breed of post euro 96 JCL's. .

 

 

They sure have, and it is those types of fans that a lot of proper "united" despise. What they have done incredibly well is keep their away support culture going (proper lads, songs, standing) which could easily have been watered down with Timothy from Surrey jumping on the bandwagon.

Their home support has suffered though.

 

Fair play to the ones protesting, they have at least made an attempt at showing opposition against something which they know is bad for their club.

 

FCUM is an interesting plan which I don't think will work, it provides a section of their support a "manchester united" away from all of the commercialisation of the premier league but it doesnt have the same passion that AFC Wimbledon have creating a new club from the death of another.

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just as a further point in regards to would we want to be in the premier league, I am just on Fulham's website helping an Italian at work trying to buy tickets for Fulham v Juve, I can quite clearly state i would not go regularly as an away fan in the premiership, prices for Fulham v Man City range from £45 CHEAPEST, £49, £50, £55, £60, £65 + £70

 

why on earth would anyone want to pay that?

 

Brazil v Ireland at the Emirates last night, cheapest tickets were £37 + booking fee, for a pointless friendly, crazy

 

 

Lets hope the pompey administration can lead to a knock on effect of the bubble bursting, these prices are out of control.

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I agree with JRM. Good points well made. As for the winker united fan. Here are some reasons I'm enjoying league 1 to the prem days.

 

1 More saturday 3pm kick offs.

2 better away days and cheaper

3 Less hype

4 It feels like Saints of old. Hungrier players, clean slate with new owners. Dead wood players that had it easy have now gone and we have a manager and team that i'm proud of (win, lose or draw)

5 more competetive league and less predictable.

 

As for the other point about the happy clappers, it was straight after the ball hit the net. They barely smiled and clapped likea bunch of c***s. Why is a man united fan posting on here anyway? Also, as much as i'm enjoying seeng us win more often, I go to watch saints, not the opposition. 20,000 saints fans on a midweek league one game seem to be better atmospheres than the sell outs in the prem days.

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Eh? Were Sky around when they were the 1st English club to win the European Cup? Can't believe the petty jealousy around United, you could certainly apply similar logic to Newcastle and Chelsea re post Sky/ success attendences but you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to United. The reason they wern't getting 76k 5/10/15/20 years ago is because their ground couldn't fit that many in, they have sold out on a regular basis for decades - mainly (as stated above) to locals too at reasonable prices. Going back to the 60's their away support has been huge all over the country (again, the vast majority of their travelling support are ST holders from Manchester - despite the incredilbly original "do you come from Manchester" chants they get everywhere they go).

 

I first went to OT around 92/93 (I think, happy to stand corrected if anyone remembers the game) we went 1nil up through Banger and Giggs scored 2 goals that had a hint of offside about them! This was before Sky etc and the ground was well and truely sold out that day. I've seen Saints up there 4/5 times since and despite us being one of the least glamourous games of the season for a Club like Man u they never failed to sell out.

 

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/archive/aveeng80.htm

 

Note the drop from 52k in 1980 to 36k in 1989 for Manchester United attendances - are you suggesting their ground also shrank by 1/3 at the time (bearing in mind 1990 was the first season affected by post-Hillsborough ground changes and isn't a factor here) ?

 

Man U, like everyone else, had loads of empty spaces on the terraces during the 1980s, and they'd been overtaken by Liverpool in average attendance by '89.

 

Which is the basis for most people's argument about plastics filling the ground now. They weren't going to matches in the 80s when Man U weren't winning stuff regularly (a couple of FA Cups), even though they were thought of as "well supported", i.e. popular.

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JackanorySFC

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http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/archive/aveeng80.htm

 

Note the drop from 52k in 1980 to 36k in 1989 for Manchester United attendances - are you suggesting their ground also shrank by 1/3 at the time (bearing in mind 1990 was the first season affected by post-Hillsborough ground changes and isn't a factor here) ?

 

Man U, like everyone else, had loads of empty spaces on the terraces during the 1980s, and they'd been overtaken by Liverpool in average attendance by '89.

 

Which is the basis for most people's argument about plastics filling the ground now. They weren't going to matches in the 80s when Man U weren't winning stuff regularly (a couple of FA Cups), even though they were thought of as "well supported", i.e. popular.

 

Just looked at that link and have to say I'm just as impressed by their support as before, baring in mind it was during a period up sustained dominence by Liverpool/ Everton. They were very well supported getting more than any other club in the country in 8 out of 10 seasons (back above Liverpool in 90/91 to 43k average and there ever since - admittedly maybe helped by winning the Cup in 1990?)

 

Look, I'm no big fan of plastic mancs, I've met/ worked with a fair few over the years! I'm just saying that since the history of football began they've attracted incredible local support - which is backed up by the fact they have more Season Ticket holders from Manchester as a % than we did from Southampton when we were last in the Prem.

 

With 76k now at OT they will get plenty of "tourists" and "daytrippers" which, from knowing a few of them, ****es off local Mancs massively!

 

Surely no one can deny their away support is incredible? (arrogent, annoying and close to the mark "Argentina, Argentina" etc but fair play to em, they can back it up everytime and they always get a bite).

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Watched the game tonight against Milan in Ireland so listening to Irish commentary. They said something about the yellow & green scarfs seling out, so people have been buying them from Norwich instead! lol

 

That's a few million in the Norwich coffers then should help in the CCC next year!

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Watched the game tonight against Milan in Ireland so listening to Irish commentary. They said something about the yellow & green scarfs seling out, so people have been buying them from Norwich instead! lol

 

I work about 400 yards from OT so left work early tonight to avoid congestion. There were already loads of unlicensed street vendors selling yellow & green scarves and loads of people paying £5 to wear one! Excellent black market cash only trade!

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I'd love to do a survey of Man U fans - I reckon the majority of them couldn't tell you the name of Newton Heath in the first place...

 

...and half of them can't even speak English...

 

Having lived up here for a while i can tell you that is a myth. As much as i dislike them they probably have the best hardcore away support and definatley the most songs.

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get stuffed u shud stick ure **** up ronneys arse!!

 

You seriously came on here, searched back through the threads history specifically to find any evidence of discussion about the Manc anti glazer protests and then bumped it to post that!?

 

Special, Very special.

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You seriously came on here, searched back through the threads history specifically to find any evidence of discussion about the Manc anti glazer protests and then bumped it to post that!?

 

Special, Very special.

 

...and, in turn, proved that even the English Man Utd fans need a translator...

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Red_No_7

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You seriously came on here, searched back through the threads history specifically to find any evidence of discussion about the Manc anti glazer protests and then bumped it to post that!?

 

Special, Very special.

 

...and, in turn, proved that even the English Man Utd fans need a translator...

 

apologies.

 

i left myself logged in and someone else kinda "facebook r***d" me :(

 

sorry again.

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apologies.

 

i left myself logged in and someone else kinda "facebook r***d" me :(

 

sorry again.

 

I think its fairly evident from the style of that one post compared to your other 149 posts that wasnt you. I have reversed your infraction.

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