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Also another stat for TDD

Played 43 games

Won 23 games

Drawn 12 games

Lost 8 games.

 

And 2 of those losses were to PL teams.

 

I guess a win ratio of over 50% (nearly double the win ratio of Strachan) is "alright"?

dont tell me mate..tell NC...he sees 13 league wins this season..and has already said a couple of weeks back that the cups are "nice" but HE wants the playoffs this year..

 

make no mistake, failing to reach at least 6th COULD cost pardew his job...posting your stats look nice, but NC is interested in league results it seems..and he felt he needed to publically mention this

 

as for comparing it to WGS..it is all relative really...give WGS the ability to have out spent the rest of the prem combined circa 2002 and you could then compare

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What the **** are these rumours :/

 

Where the hell have they came from, we just turned in our best performance.

 

There are no rumours. Pardew got irritated with some Solent amateur asking pointless, obvious questions, and as such Pardew replied with equally pointless answers. People on here have put 2 and 2 together and made about 5758575.

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Also another stat for TDD

Played 43 games

Won 23 games

Drawn 12 games

Lost 8 games.

 

And 2 of those losses were to PL teams.

 

I guess a win ratio of over 50% (nearly double the win ratio of Strachan) is "alright"?

 

Ah but some of our fans don't include cup matches when deciding how well AP is doing. Apparently cups are worthless and a distraction, only league games count........apparently

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There are no rumours. Pardew got irritated with some Solent amateur asking pointless, obvious questions, and as such Pardew replied with equally pointless answers. People on here have put 2 and 2 together and made about 5758575.

 

But that isn't quite how it happened is it.

 

Solent interviewer rightly expected AP to be brimming over with good spirits, and he wasn't. He has conducted other such post match interviews with AP, with just as obvious questions, and with much more good humour than was on show today. The interviewer [blackmore..?] was obviously a bit phased by this [everybody listening was, a bit], and so suggestions were made, and rumours got spread. Listen to it here. Quite clearly, AP was being teed up to say more, and he usually is more effusive. After Blackmore mentioned public and media perception, he isn't here. In fact, he seems slightly needled. But he wasn't exactly turning somersaults for any of the interview. Not even after a 5-1..? you can see how people might have miscalculated.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8541183.stm

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very true. The jpt means **** all

 

Maybe to you. I was two when we won the FA cup this will be the first time I have a real chance* of seeing saints lift a ****ing trophy in years so it means a lot to me and my eight year old who wants to his team win something.

 

*note I don't count 2003 as Arse where so much better than us I never expected to win the cup.

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very true. The jpt means **** all

Speak for youself, its the first ever time I'll get to see Saints at Wembley. It's always been a dream of mine to see a Saints captain lifting a trophy there, whether its the carling cup, FA cup or the cup the two girls used!!!!

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And forgot to say, keep up the good work, Alan! You ARE appreciated!

 

Without you we would be floundering in the relegation zone, because you inherited a squad that wouldn't even survive in league 2. You are turning Saints into a Championship team that will go onwards and upwards!

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And forgot to say, keep up the good work, Alan! You ARE appreciated!

 

Without you we would be floundering in the relegation zone, because you inherited a squad that wouldn't even survive in league 2. You are turning Saints into a Championship team that will go onwards and upwards!

 

+1!

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Just want to add a few words, in case Alan Pardew (or his boss) happens to read this.

 

What this Club has been through over the last few years, left us on the brink of oblivion, with a (mostly) poor squad whose morale, belief, motivation and confidence was utterly shot to pieces. I expect that a large proportion of our fanbase were feeling a very similar sense of impending doom.

 

'They' say that hope dies last, and for us, it is fair to say that hope was in its death throes.

 

Alan Pardew has turned our Club around.

 

All you have to do, is just think back to a few short months ago, before his arrival (and of course the arrival of Markus and Nicola), and remember the perilous state that were were in. The Club was utterly ran through, dejected, and a forlorn image of its former self.

 

Now, sure, some results have been less than we would like to expect, but when looking from a broader perspective, and not one focussed upon only individual games here and there where we were not up to par, we have come a long way, in a very short space of time.

 

It can be easy to get carried away on the new wave of optimism that has swept the Club with the arrival of our esteemed Swiss saviour, and expect near perfection from the team; only to feel disappointed and let down when things don't go right for us in every game, and to an extent with the money spent so far, that may be understandable. But, personally, I choose to retain a sense of perspective.

 

In the space of around six months, we've gone from a Club on the brink, battered and broken, to an emerging force in English football. The money is a big part in that, of course, but it matters not how much quality we have at our disposal, without the right man to blend all that obvious talent we've acquired, into a force to be reckoned with.

 

The credit for that impressive feat, goes to a certain Mr. Pardew.

 

He has rebuilt this Club, pretty much from scratch, and whilst we may wish to be much closer to a meaningful play-off challenge than we appear to be at this point, I cannot lose sight of the fact that the turnaround in our fortunes has been nothing short of remarkable.

 

I've gone from dreading every game over the last few years, knowing the kind of abject dross that would be served up for me to savour at St. Mary's week in week out; to thoroughly looking forward to each game with a renewed excitement, knowing that more often than not, I can look forward to coming away from St. Mary's once again, having been entertained and treated to the kind of enjoyment that supporting my hometown Club always used to be about. The feelgood factor is back, and Alan Pardew has played a big part in that. Sure, I'm not blind to the fact that he's likely made some mistakes along the way, but I don't know anyone that doesn't make some of those sometimes.

 

Above all, I now know that my team will at the very least, give everything they have, to try to win every game for us. I know that those players will put in a committed performance, playing for the shirt in a way I've not seen from a Southampton side in longer than I wish to remember, with passion, desire and dedication to the cause. With a spirit, and determination, that has fostered the famed "winning mentality".

 

Much of the thanks and credit due for all this, lies squarely with our manager, Alan Pardew.

 

We will get dissappointments from time to time along this journey as we work our way back up to where we feel we belong; but that is to be expected. It is football afterall, and there are two teams on the pitch every week, both trying their hardest to win. It's not always going to go our way, and sometimes, I think we need to accept that no matter how much we may feel that we should, we do not have a divine right to three points from every match, and sometimes we will also not always get what we deserve from a game.

 

But the main thing for me, is that the improvement has been immense, from where we were as a Club, to where we are now. We're not the finished article yet, and there is still some way to go; but on the whole, we're playing well, and it is actually enjoyable going to watch our team play football again, knowing that there's always a good chance of seeing a Saints win. How refreshing!

 

Success is not built overnight, or even over six months, but what we are seeing here, is the laying of the foundations of something that I believe and feel is going to be amazing. Mr Pardew must be given the time and support to continue the good work he has begun. He has laid down a solid base upon which to build, for a future that is indeed very bright.

 

Alan Pardew just feels like the right man at the right time for this Club, and I for one would be extremely gutted if he is not given the support and backing from 'above' that I feel his positive start merits.

 

The "Lowe Era" showed us all we need to know about managerial merry-go-rounds, and despite all the good that Nicola Cortese has done for us so far, I believe (if the 'rumours' of discontent are true of course) that failing to keep and fully support Alan Pardew would be making a monumental error from which we could take a long time to recover.

 

~ ~ ~

 

The short version: is that Alan Pardew is doing a sound job for us, and absolutely must be given time to finish what he has started.

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I am happy to add my voice to this thread.

 

He has given us hope after a disastrous Spring/Summer last year. He has also a visit to Wembley as a token of early gratification to give the fans. I want to see him have a bloody good go at next season with the gloves off, and no excuses to hide behind.

 

BUT...

 

If that is not working by Xmas, I want to see NC axe him with extreme prejudice, since there are a few little signs that he may not be able to deliver what is expected of him.

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hmmm. Given the resources and money available we have under performed. Our current position isnt good enough and any old manager could have, imo, got us there. Wotte/portvliet included. Next season will be the acid test

 

Now I know you are either on a wind up or your medication has run out ;-)

Wotte/Portvliet ROFL!!!! They couldnt manage their way out of a paper bag look at their records everywhere.

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With the playing resources available to Pardew his record is OK but surely nothing more

Of course he should be given time to get the team playing really well in a consitent manner which I am sure will soon happen.

 

Surely the point is though that a big part of those resources people keep banging on about have only been here since January in that time we have lost one game to an EPL team have won seven games and drawn four.

 

Before christmas our only big money spending where Lambert and Hammond all our other new players where frees and loans (ie other peoples rejects). So APs massive advantage in resources was in fact a 1m striker and and a 300k midfielder. More than other teams spent but still only two players. Yes we've spent a lot in January but our record since has been very good (one loss).

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I am happy to add my voice to this thread.

 

He has given us hope after a disastrous Spring/Summer last year. He has also a visit to Wembley as a token of early gratification to give the fans. I want to see him have a bloody good go at next season with the gloves off, and no excuses to hide behind.

 

BUT...

 

If that is not working by Xmas, I want to see NC axe him with extreme prejudice, since there are a few little signs that he may not be able to deliver what is expected of him.

 

 

I did think I was going to disagree with you Alpine, but ..i think your right in both timing & how here.

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Surely the point is though that a big part of those resources people keep banging on about have only been here since January in that time we have lost one game to an EPL team have won seven games and drawn four.

 

Before christmas our only big money spending where Lambert and Hammond all our other new players where frees and loans (ie other peoples rejects). So APs massive advantage in resources was in fact a 1m striker and and a 300k midfielder. More than other teams spent but still on two players. Yes we've spent a lot in January but our record since has been very good (one loss).

 

Yes I think we are doing OK and will do better in the future but I dont think Pardew has been outstanding as a manager this season.

 

But should be allowed to continue his job for the forseeable future as I think results will improve significantly

 

Other teams seemed to have done better with less resources but that does not make Pardew a worse manager

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I see they're all here...agents Dulldays, Blue_stevo, John the neg, and alpine moan, can you boys say what has happened to Glasgow_blue, or is he still on assignment???

 

AP is the best thing to happen to Saints in years, along with NC, and the man who makes it all possible, ML.

Given where we were last summer, then anything this season is a bonus...

 

In AP we trust.

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Pards is doing a very, very good job and deserves our full support......I know true Saints fans without an agenda will do just that....

 

Come on Pards...Top man..

 

COYRS

 

My sentiments exactly - The trouble is there are too many people that expect too much too soon. I am not sure who they think would come bowling up to take Pardew's place if he left?

Get behind the team and the manager - COYR

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I can't understand why some of us (fans in general) are on his back. He came in very late during the close season, that gave him very little time to get to know the players and identify where we needed improving. The team itself, which nearly always reflects upon a manager, needed time also to gel.

 

I think that AP and the team have done very well despite all those inconveniences and distractions. I would have been happy with stability (maybe I'm not that 'driven'?) but to be where we are is beyond my expectations.

 

I have the confidence that we will do well in this dvision next season and will be promoted.

 

Just as an aside to this thread, because I went searching for any possible gossip, I found this. Apologies if already posted.

 

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23809376-alan-pardew-is-keen-on-albert-adomah.do

 

Looks like he's still planning for the future!

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My sentiments exactly - The trouble is there are too many people that expect too much too soon. I am not sure who they think would come bowling up to take Pardew's place if he left?

Get behind the team and the manager - COYR

 

Perhaps NC is expecting too much it was him who voiced his concerns and it is him who maybe on his back rather than the fans.

 

Not sure there are many fans suggesting that he should be sacked.

 

Just some suggesting that performances could have been better

of course we could have won more games with better application and better tactics but that is football

 

I am happy with the current situation with Pardew but not so sure about NC at the moment

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It takes longer than six months to build a squad and get the playing at the highest level week in week out. Geez. How long did Fergie take to get Man U ticking along?

 

I would be disappointed if NC did anything rash before the end of 2010, although who knows. I have heard (this is forth hand) that NC is beginning to enjoy the trappings of power and has meglomaniac tendancies but I still give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment. I believe the original source was involved with the club previously so I don't know if there is an axe to grind.

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You know precisely what he means so why be so contrary ?

Pardew must stay and I believe he will, 40+ years of supporting Saints tells me that even when we were promoted in 1966 and 1978 we still had bad games. I defy any team to go through a 46 game season and not have off days. Pardew is by a country mile the best manager we have had since Strachan and as much as I love the wee man I doubt he would be doing a better job. Criticism such as that on here really could only be found on here, it is clear this forum is in NO way reflective of the viewpoint of most Saints fans.

 

Well said Chris! Our DD does like to open the debate by playing Devil's Advocate.

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I agree with the general sentiment on here.

Alan has done an extremely astute job since he came in - and since the Jan transfer window he has 'his' first team.

If we're not in or extremely close to the top two at the end of the year questions will be asked and tough decisions will have to be taken.

But for now any move to ditch AP would be utter dispiriting madness.

I will be thousands of miles away on Tuesday evening. But for those who are going - an early rousing chorus of 'Stand Up if you love Pardew' please - from all four stands.

COYS

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Just want to add a few words, in case Alan Pardew (or his boss) happens to read this.

 

What this Club has been through over the last few years, left us on the brink of oblivion, with a (mostly) poor squad whose morale, belief, motivation and confidence was utterly shot to pieces. I expect that a large proportion of our fanbase were feeling a very similar sense of impending doom.

 

'They' say that hope dies last, and for us, it is fair to say that hope was in its death throes.

 

Alan Pardew has turned our Club around.

 

All you have to do, is just think back to a few short months ago, before his arrival (and of course the arrival of Markus and Nicola), and remember the perilous state that were were in. The Club was utterly ran through, dejected, and a forlorn image of its former self.

 

Now, sure, some results have been less than we would like to expect, but when looking from a broader perspective, and not one focussed upon only individual games here and there where we were not up to par, we have come a long way, in a very short space of time.

 

It can be easy to get carried away on the new wave of optimism that has swept the Club with the arrival of our esteemed Swiss saviour, and expect near perfection from the team; only to feel disappointed and let down when things don't go right for us in every game, and to an extent with the money spent so far, that may be understandable. But, personally, I choose to retain a sense of perspective.

 

In the space of around six months, we've gone from a Club on the brink, battered and broken, to an emerging force in English football. The money is a big part in that, of course, but it matters not how much quality we have at our disposal, without the right man to blend all that obvious talent we've acquired, into a force to be reckoned with.

 

The credit for that impressive feat, goes to a certain Mr. Pardew.

 

He has rebuilt this Club, pretty much from scratch, and whilst we may wish to be much closer to a meaningful play-off challenge than we appear to be at this point, I cannot lose sight of the fact that the turnaround in our fortunes has been nothing short of remarkable.

 

I've gone from dreading every game over the last few years, knowing the kind of abject dross that would be served up for me to savour at St. Mary's week in week out; to thoroughly looking forward to each game with a renewed excitement, knowing that more often than not, I can look forward to coming away from St. Mary's once again, having been entertained and treated to the kind of enjoyment that supporting my hometown Club always used to be about. The feelgood factor is back, and Alan Pardew has played a big part in that. Sure, I'm not blind to the fact that he's likely made some mistakes along the way, but I don't know anyone that doesn't make some of those sometimes.

 

Above all, I now know that my team will at the very least, give everything they have, to try to win every game for us. I know that those players will put in a committed performance, playing for the shirt in a way I've not seen from a Southampton side in longer than I wish to remember, with passion, desire and dedication to the cause. With a spirit, and determination, that has fostered the famed "winning mentality".

 

Much of the thanks and credit due for all this, lies squarely with our manager, Alan Pardew.

 

We will get dissappointments from time to time along this journey as we work our way back up to where we feel we belong; but that is to be expected. It is football afterall, and there are two teams on the pitch every week, both trying their hardest to win. It's not always going to go our way, and sometimes, I think we need to accept that no matter how much we may feel that we should, we do not have a divine right to three points from every match, and sometimes we will also not always get what we deserve from a game.

 

But the main thing for me, is that the improvement has been immense, from where we were as a Club, to where we are now. We're not the finished article yet, and there is still some way to go; but on the whole, we're playing well, and it is actually enjoyable going to watch our team play football again, knowing that there's always a good chance of seeing a Saints win. How refreshing!

 

Success is not built overnight, or even over six months, but what we are seeing here, is the laying of the foundations of something that I believe and feel is going to be amazing. Mr Pardew must be given the time and support to continue the good work he has begun. He has laid down a solid base upon which to build, for a future that is indeed very bright.

 

Alan Pardew just feels like the right man at the right time for this Club, and I for one would be extremely gutted if he is not given the support and backing from 'above' that I feel his positive start merits.

 

The "Lowe Era" showed us all we need to know about managerial merry-go-rounds, and despite all the good that Nicola Cortese has done for us so far, I believe (if the 'rumours' of discontent are true of course) that failing to keep and fully support Alan Pardew would be making a monumental error from which we could take a long time to recover.

 

~ ~ ~

 

The short version: is that Alan Pardew is doing a sound job for us, and absolutely must be given time to finish what he has started.

 

Well said sir!

 

Rome was not built in a day, let alone a football season.

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With the playing resources available to Pardew his record is OK but surely nothing more

 

Of course he should be given time to get the team playing really well in a consitent manner which I am sure will soon happen.

 

Agree unless we hit some sort of disasterous form between now and May he deserves ore season to shape his squad and then at least untill Christmas.

 

If we can keep winning at home then next season we should be right up at the top even if we continue to draw too many away from home. Home form is key and luckily we seem to have nailed that over the last few months.

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We've been through this already TDD, original '5 year plan' was...

 

1st season - Survival in L1

2nd season - Promotion from L1

3rd season - CCC establishment

4th season - Promotion from CCC

5th season - Prem establishment

Maybe it's me being thick, but isn't that a 4 year plan to get to the PL? And we're creating shït because we're not beating it.

 

I think AP is doing a pretty good job in the circumstances. Yes, he could have done a bit better, but it's still good enough for this fan. And so it should be, he gets paid more than the kit man at Fratton Park, but only just.

 

I am entitled to feel critical after the Wycombe game, but don't you think AP knows that that degree of inconsistency is a worry? He doesn't need us to tell him what the problems are. I doubt very much that his so-called "attitude" during the interview was in any way whatsoever connected with his relationship with Cortese.

 

Cortese's a pro. You don't have those types of conversations that are being suggested on here at the ground 10 minutes after the end of a game where you thumped a team above you in the league 5-1.

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I am happy to add my voice to this thread.

 

He has given us hope after a disastrous Spring/Summer last year. He has also a visit to Wembley as a token of early gratification to give the fans. I want to see him have a bloody good go at next season with the gloves off, and no excuses to hide behind.

 

BUT...

 

If that is not working by Xmas, I want to see NC axe him with extreme prejudice.

 

 

I'll agree with that.

 

There are no excuses next season.

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I also think people underestimate how much of a drawback is was to have virtually no pre-season preparation time for Pards. Just because pre-season is now long gone doesn't mean the effects fade away. Some of them do (fitness, or lack of it) but other aspects don't, or at least become more difficult to handle and amend (transfers, stadium work, tactical training, etc).

 

Pards has had to come in and, basically, perform all the pre-season tasks while the season was underway. He handled that well, he has taken the squad from a demoralised, weak set of players to a team that just hammered the ninth place team and beat the top team away from home.

 

Sure there have been a few slip ups, what the heck did we expect? A ten-nil win every week just because we've finally got some cash in the bank?

 

I've said this before but I think it's worth repeating: The internet gives people anonymity and some people - usually idiots - abuse that. This forum now represents a large portion of Southampton supporters. Anything appearing on here could well be read by people within the club. I wish people would consider their words and how it would affect others who may read them. Speak your mind by all means, but just put a little thought and consideration into it.

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AP had pre season in August and September with the players left over from administration and relegation.

Now we have AP's team and in my opinion it looks good.

I also still believe 2 points per game will get us to the play offs.

 

However even if they didnt and we lost at Wembley this has been the most enjoyable season since WGS, with the Spirit of Southampton, Pride of the South , restored.

 

We all hated the RL manager merry go round, let's maintain our recently found stability, even if it means a lower national profile.

I didn't enjoy being the laughing stock of 2008-9 one bit, everyone knew our problems.

 

COYR

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dont tell me mate..tell NC...he sees 13 league wins this season..and has already said a couple of weeks back that the cups are "nice" but HE wants the playoffs this year..

 

make no mistake, failing to reach at least 6th COULD cost pardew his job...posting your stats look nice, but NC is interested in league results it seems..and he felt he needed to publically mention this

 

as for comparing it to WGS..it is all relative really...give WGS the ability to have out spent the rest of the prem combined circa 2002 and you could then compare

 

 

Interesting isn't it ..how people perceive statements/comments (implied or otherwise). After hearing the NC comments some weeks ago, it was obviously something that AP knew without being told, but I read it as it was a " veiled threat " (from NC).. to some of the players ...that they weren't doing enough.

 

I don't believe that the relationship between NC/AP is anywhere near as "bad" as some people are suggesting, and whereas AP has to ultimately " carry the can" for whatever the seasons outcome will bring, the thought of raising a cup at Wembley can hardly be considered a negative experience.

 

With some of the biggest gates in L1 and the proceeds of a Wembley final -most bankers who are responsible for a football club in this day and age would be pleased to look at the bottom line, (whichever league they are in.)

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