Schneiderlin back and we win..

[musesaint]

there was only a couple who really wrote him off, think most appreciate his quality

 

Don't care if there's 2 / 4 / 10 or 100

 

They're still all idiots :-)

[batterseasaint]

There have been plenty who have written him off or slated him in some form or other during the course of this season. And I can quite categorically state a true FACT that they are all idiots. I don't recall a bad game from him this season, and most games I come away thinking how good he was. Today was his best performance; not only did he run the show going forward, but broke down so much from the opposition. This guy is such class... the best midfielder we have had for some time. It is hard to compare his ability with those players we had in the Premiership, but I struggle to recall enjoying an individual performance from a central midfielder as I did today. Morgan, you are brilliant.

[saintwarwick]

Hard to give a factual reply about a players performances when you live in Austria and hardly see a game.

 

So how can he give an opinion on a player he hasn't seen then :confused: FYI he was no different when he lived in Soton, brilliant match analyst without seeing a game

[Thedelldays]

morgan was great today

[jam]

It's really great to see how many more people are rating Morgan now. He's a cracking player and a pleasure to watch.

 

Be a shame if he goes in the summer.

[Torres]

He is a decent player especially at this level but a big fat 0 goals from midfield says he is not exactly the finished article or a complete player. He does still have improvement in him though!

 

He is young enough to be your nipper though. If he was the finished article he'd be playing in the Prem, tbf.

[Torres]

But the fact is, the team are crap on crap pitches on crap winter mid-week evenings.

 

So are most teams.

[notjon]

Schneiderlin is by far our most cultured player.

He was a joy to watch today.

[Smirking_Saint]

No, I said it shouldnt affect the team that way and that it isnt an acceptable excuse.

 

But the fact is, the team are crap on crap pitches on crap winter mid-week evenings. So to say it was solely down to Schneiderlins absence is overly-simplistic.

 

This is in no way a dig alps so don't take this post as a wind up 'cos it really is not.

 

But to understand what he actually gives to the team you really need to watch a full 90 minute display in the flesh, his ability never really is picked up by the radio or highlights as he does all his work in the background.

 

He is definately our lynchpin, Chez hit the nail on the head, sometimes we play badly even when he is in the team but i think we definately miss him when he is not. He orchestrates a lot of what we do as a team going forward and all at a tender age.

 

I love the fact that he has also began to add a more destructive part to his game aswell.

 

If we lose him in the summer i honestly believe we will be half the side. He will never be adequately replaced at this level.

[skintsaint]

Even saw him win a header and then get clattered. Certainly gets stuck in more.

[paulwantsapint]

When Morgan has a good game the team are good think back to southend away on horrible pitch Morgan ran the game

 

Best way to look at his game is amount of times he get fouled & gets back up high no. he must be playing well as teams cant get ball of him

[Thedelldays]

he is pure class..and can tackle too..

 

he is not the sort the breaks from the middle to support the front men..he sits in the middle of the park passing the ball around.

 

Hammond breaks up the play and gives the ball to morgan more often than not

 

Morgan is way too good for league 1..

 

is he 20 yet..?

[View From The Top]

he is pure class..and can tackle too..

 

he is not the sort the breaks from the middle to support the front men..he sits in the middle of the park passing the ball around.

 

Hammond breaks up the play and gives the ball to morgan more often than not

 

Morgan is way too good for league 1..

 

is he 20 yet..?

 

An Everton board member confirmed to Corky Morris this week that Morgan was being watched by a number of EPL clubs.

[Window Cleaner]

he is pure class..and can tackle too..

 

he is not the sort the breaks from the middle to support the front men..he sits in the middle of the park passing the ball around.

 

Hammond breaks up the play and gives the ball to morgan more often than not

 

Morgan is way too good for league 1..

 

is he 20 yet..?

 

then it's as I saw at the Norwich game, the two seem to have swapped roles,before Morgan was the milieu recuperateur and Hammond the milieu relayeur,if what you saw yesterday is exact it's gone the other way round now.

[Window Cleaner]

An Everton board member confirmed to Corky Morris this week that Morgan was being watched by a number of EPL clubs.

 

And about 6 French first division clubs as well.

[Smirking_Saint]

I expect we will really struggle to keep hold of him this year, and he will be nigh on impossible to replace in this division.

[forever a red and white]

people so say he doesn't get stuck in - give it a rest.

 

He tracks very well, m,akes vital challenges and doesn't fall around like he's been shot when takinga konck, he just gets up and gets on with it.

 

Quality player - no argument, just needs a goal

[benjii]

He was decent but he gave the ball away numerous times with predictable and telegraphed cross-field balls. He needs to stop doing this because against better teams it will cost you.

 

Hammond is our key central midfielder. James and Schneiderlin are good players. Next season we should be looking to add one more to the mix IMO, preferably someone who is better than MS and LJ and they can respond to the challenge.

[LaptopSaint]

I know it's all about opinions, and i respect most people's on here. But how anyone can think Hammond is better than Schneiderlin (and I like Deano a lot) is way beyond me. As I said on another thread, I fear bids for both Morgan and Adam this summer. If they come from the CCC we can knock them back and match the money. If they come from higher up, it'll be more of a struggle. Really hope Spiderman stays and gets to the Prem with us, but we may run out of time.

[forever a red and white]

He was decent but he gave the ball away numerous times with predictable and telegraphed cross-field balls. He needs to stop doing this because against better teams it will cost you.

 

Hammond is our key central midfielder. James and Schneiderlin are good players. Next season we should be looking to add one more to the mix IMO, preferably someone who is better than MS and LJ and they can respond to the challenge.

 

if anything i would replace Hammond. Players in Hammonds mould are easier to come by, but you can someone a lot better than him at doing his job, even James to an extent would fit this. MS is a different player and one that is not always easy to find. If he started to add goals to his game then he would no doubt be the more productive of the two.

[ottery st mary]

Spiderman continues to improve and prove me wrong....Early doors my concern was his bottle....But then again he was thrown in at the deep end at a very young age in a very poor side run by amateurs...

 

Well done Spiderman and may you continue your development....A great game against Huddersfield would help. Feel that Hammond and others around him have helped his game..NOT forgetting Pards, Wilko and Murdoch..

 

Surely Wenger will lure him to the Arse..

[NickG]

Spiderman continues to improve and prove me wrong....Early doors my concern was his bottle....But then again he was thrown in at the deep end at a very young age in a very poor side run by amateurs...

 

Well done Spiderman and may you continue your development....A great game against Huddersfield would help. Feel that Hammond and others around him have helped his game..NOT forgetting Pards, Wilko and Murdoch..

 

Surely Wenger will lure him to the Arse..

 

good to hear and big of you, but you weren't one of the ones I recalled writing him off.

[krissyboy31]

He undoubtedly had class when he joined us at the start of last season but found it difficult to make an impact in a lightweight struggling team. He has grown both physically and mentally this season and has added so much to his game. Now, he is a vital part of this team. Our problem will be keeping him if we fail to go up via the play-offs, which is still very much a long shot.

[Arizona]

Spiderman continues to improve and prove me wrong....Early doors my concern was his bottle....But then again he was thrown in at the deep end at a very young age in a very poor side run by amateurs...

 

Well done Spiderman and may you continue your development....A great game against Huddersfield would help. Feel that Hammond and others around him have helped his game..NOT forgetting Pards, Wilko and Murdoch..

 

Surely Wenger will lure him to the Arse..

 

Gordon Bennett, I thought we'd put that one to bed? He looks pretty decent in League 1. Not always, he has games where he goes missing, but he looks decent. Arsenal though? You really think we have players in our squad that Wenger is envious of? That was just a rumour banded about by Lowe/Morgan's agent to try and convince fans we'd found a world beater.

[JustMike]

quality, quality, quality. His range of passing, control and an old head on young shoulders.

[ottery st mary]

Gordon Bennett, I thought we'd put that one to bed? He looks pretty decent in League 1. Not always, he has games where he goes missing, but he looks decent. Arsenal though? You really think we have players in our squad that Wenger is envious of? That was just a rumour banded about by Lowe/Morgan's agent to try and convince fans we'd found a world beater.

 

So you are discounting Arsenal moving for Wotton/:D

[benjii]

if anything i would replace Hammond. Players in Hammonds mould are easier to come by, but you can someone a lot better than him at doing his job, even James to an extent would fit this. MS is a different player and one that is not always easy to find. If he started to add goals to his game then he would no doubt be the more productive of the two.

 

I agree, sorry I meant as things stand in the squad at the moment. Hammond is the one we can't do without for the rest of this season IMO.

[benjii]

I know it's all about opinions, and i respect most people's on here. But how anyone can think Hammond is better than Schneiderlin (and I like Deano a lot) is way beyond me. As I said on another thread, I fear bids for both Morgan and Adam this summer. If they come from the CCC we can knock them back and match the money. If they come from higher up, it'll be more of a struggle. Really hope Spiderman stays and gets to the Prem with us, but we may run out of time.

 

I think "better" is irelevant. Hammond is more important IMO as he gives us something none of our other midfielders do which is an engine and a physical presence in both boxes.

 

Schneiderlin is good in games like yesterday but continues to dish out as many lame performances as good ones IMO. He also deceives a lot of people with the occasional flashy pass. He did far more poor raking balls than good ones yesterday, although he did a good job in linking play from defence. One thing I like about Barnard is his movement in getting in front of the defender to receive low balls from the full-back; it varies our play more and means we don't need to rely on Schneiderlin playing a cross-field ball to the other winger (which has a pretty low success rate) or chipping it up to Lambo.

[Smirking_Saint]

Gordon Bennett, I thought we'd put that one to bed? He looks pretty decent in League 1. Not always, he has games where he goes missing, but he looks decent. Arsenal though? You really think we have players in our squad that Wenger is envious of? That was just a rumour banded about by Lowe/Morgan's agent to try and convince fans we'd found a world beater.

 

I wouldn't discount it, he is a very accomplished player already and can easily make the transition to at least the CCC in my eyes.

 

Play the correct players around him and he will look even more class.

 

I really hope he doesn't leave in the summer, but very much fear he will. He is going to be a fantastic player.

[NickG]

I think "better" is irelevant. Hammond is more important IMO as he gives us something none of our other midfielders do which is an engine and a physical presence in both boxes.

 

Schneiderlin is good in games like yesterday but continues to dish out as many lame performances as good ones IMO. He also deceives a lot of people with the occasional flashy pass. He did far more poor raking balls than good ones yesterday, although he did a good job in linking play from defence. One thing I like about Barnard is his movement in getting in front of the defender to receive low balls from the full-back; it varies our play more and means we don't need to rely on Schneiderlin playing a cross-field ball to the other winger (which has a pretty low success rate) or chipping it up to Lambo.

 

disagree. Think he works hard, slows the game down when we need to, happy to look up and find a pass - even easy one - when two players on him.

 

Tackles and closes down pretty well as well.

 

Bloke behind me keeps going on about a great tackle by Hammond when clearly Schneiderlin! (lack of capt's armband is a clue!)

[benjii]

disagree. Think he works hard, slows the game down when we need to, happy to look up and find a pass - even easy one - when two players on him.

 

Tackles and closes down pretty well as well.

 

Bloke behind me keeps going on about a great tackle by Hammond when clearly Schneiderlin! (lack of capt's armband is a clue!)

 

Well, you said you disagreed then listed a lot of attributes I didn't comment on!

 

I agree he worked hard. The problem is, he needs a lot of time on the ball to play dangerous passes and even then his success rate is pretty low.

 

It is only his second season of regular professional football, I think, (and last season was a pathetic farce so that barely counts) so I'm not having a go. I just think the way he is lauded by some on here is over the top and is probably more a symptom of how dire we've been as a midfield unit for several seasons rather than how great he is. He has potential for sure.

[Clifford Nelson]

Schneiderlin had a top game yesterday and filled the role in midfield nobody has has done since Jim Magilton. He was my MOTM, and I never thought I would be able to say that.

[Legod Third Coming]

he is pure class..and can tackle too..

 

he is not the sort the breaks from the middle to support the front men..he sits in the middle of the park passing the ball around.

 

Hammond breaks up the play and gives the ball to morgan more often than not

 

Morgan is way too good for league 1..

 

is he 20 yet..?

 

No word of a lie he reminds me of Platini.

[Window Cleaner]

No word of a lie he reminds me of Platini.

 

If you need to make a "carré magique" reference, Giresse or Tigana would be more apt.

[Legod Third Coming]

If you need to make a "carré magique" reference, Giresse or Tigana would be more apt.

 

You're right, Giresse maybe - Tigana had a bit more pace about him!

 

Not that I mind Morgan having no pace - as a certain lardy midfield/striker we had proved, pace is over-rated if you have no idea what to do with the round white thing... Jesper Gronkear springs to mind!

[suewhistle]

we don't always play well with him in the side, but our worst displays tend to be when he does not play.

 

As somebody else said, he does the simple things well, and a lot of midfield work is about simplicity and moving the ball on without drama.

 

I can't remember him against Exeter when I was over at Christmas but I saw him against Huddersfield away when I was over in the summer and I thought even then that he had added bite to his game. The whole team were poor but he wasn't and made some telling physical interventions.

 

It would be nice to see him score (didn't he have one kicked off the line yesterday?) but I feel that when he does it will be a goal to appreciate.

[dellgirl]

Morgan is absolute class in every way,some of his play yesterday took your breath away and he is only 3 months out of his teens

[tommi]

This thread has restored my faith in the board!! With some of the recent posts about performances and players I was beginning to wonder if anyone had ever seen proper football before, let alone played it. Now though, I can sit happily behind my computer, content in the knowledge that at least a dozen of my fellow Innernet friends know something about the beautiful game! Thank you one and all (you know who you are!)

[Tokyo-Saint]

He has huge potential, but needs to work on his consistency.

 

Who told you that? Dave Merrington?

[Mr X]

A player with his potential should be scoring more goals though you cant argue with that, if adam can do it then whats his excuse? how many has he actually scored since hes been here? cant be more than about three if that, ps i am not having a pop at his talent

[Matthew Le God]

if adam can do it then whats his excuse? how many has he actually scored since hes been here? cant be more than about three if that, ps i am not having a pop at his talent

 

He hasn't scored any. He plays in a very different position and role to Adam and is not his job to score goals. Yes, it would be nice if he did but it doesn't really matter as long as others in the team are.

[Saint Fan CaM]

I do think Morgan has come along quite a bit. I did not rate him too highly until recently and he still has much learning to do, but alongside Hammond he seems to be more assured and have more grit about his play now. I think sometimes the collective whole of a team seems to just click into place and I think Morgan has become an important part of that for Saints. Long may he continue to show his worth to Saints - I just wish he'd be a little more decisive with his shooting and score a goal...that would really help him even more.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I love how Morgan glides across the pitch. He has a great touch, superb passing ability and vision to rival many premiership midfielders. It would certainly be nice to see him score, and I think when he gets one he may go on a bit of a scoring run, but as stated above it's not his role in the team.

[West End Saint]

Morgan is class you could always see that he had talent he and lallana are our most gifted players and both have come on leaps and bounds this season it is nice to see proper footballing talent coming good in this league I have been so impressed with both.

 

All our play comes through Morgan he dictates the play and tempo and for a young lad it is impressive when ever or who ever wins the ball 1st person they look for is Morgan.

 

Dont under estimate how importaant Hammond Morgan is twice the palyer with Hammond in the side.

[NickG]

thought he was excellent last night. From blocks on edge of box, running length of pitch, can't remember him losing possesion. Lovely trick when beating their forward closing him down.

 

10/10!

[alpine_saint]

Who told you that? Dave Merrington?

 

AP has said it himself about the young players as a collective recently.

[NickG]

alpine he is, and always has been an excellent player. You got this one wrong.

[ladysaint]

And the tackle he made in their penalty area was timed to perfection I am mesmerised by watching him play and think its time he had his own song, think he now deserves "Morgan Schneiderlin football genuis".

[Andy_Porter]

He wouldn't have been throwing himself in front of the ball like that last season now he dies it at five nil, credit to Pardew for getting the best out of him. I wouldn't swap him for any midfielder in the League. When he's on form he's a class above.

 

All he needs is a goal

Edited 3 March, 2010 by Andy_Porter

[ladysaint]

According to his stats his has never scored in his professional career, it will come he did have a shot on target last night, just hope I am there to see it.