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Viking Warrior

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I am now looking at my flight arrangements for the JPT Final I was booked on BA now it looks as if I am screwed. Thanks alot trolley dollies

 

Im probably now getting the caledonian sleeper from Aberdeen and another train back up north. I will be really ****ed off if i miss this game due to BA.

 

Also if I can't make it I will have two tickets spare I will keep you posted

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I am now looking at my flight arrangements for the JPT Final I was booked on BA now it looks as if I am screwed. Thanks alot trolley dollies

 

Im probably now getting the caledonian sleeper from Aberdeen and another train back up north. I will be really ****ed off if i miss this game due to BA.

 

Also if I can't make it I will have two tickets spare I will keep you posted

 

Claim comp and book with another airline - simple; you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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LGTL

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I don't understand why anyone would ever fly BA to any destination. Avoid them like the plague and you'll never get into a situation like this is my advice. The great thing with BA is that there is always a better airline that goes to the same destination.

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ericofarabia

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BA are offering their passengers full refunds as it is, so it's not going to cost them anymore (probably) to fly with someone else.

 

Just checked as an example if I had to use alternative flights to my booking over Easter, Dubai - Geneva (not with BA, but shows that a refund won't cover the ticket prices on offer now).

 

When I originally bought my ticket, it was 400 quid, now the alternatives available are Qatar Airways at 525 but has a 1hr connection which if missed, next flt 24 hours later :cool:

 

Next up Lufthansa 708 but would mean missing my last day skiing and an overnight in Geneva :smt009

 

Closest to the original times ie a couple of hours extra both directions, 824 on Swissair.

 

The actual schedule that I am on is now selling for 1194 pounds :confused:

 

I'm sure this would be the same sort of % increase in most cases. So excuse me if the 'you can claim your full fare back and book elsewhere' line some people are bandying about, doesn't impress me much.

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Wade Garrett

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Given Brown's comments on the strike, I hope a number of trade unions, including my own, remove their funding from Labour.

 

Great idea. Let the Labour Party die, without funding, and let the Tories in for generations to come.

 

I've been in a Trade Union for years. I don't see that the Government should blindly back any strike, for fear of having their funding taken away.

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bridge too far

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Great idea. Let the Labour Party die, without funding, and let the Tories in for generations to come.

 

I've been in a Trade Union for years. I don't see that the Government should blindly back any strike, for fear of having their funding taken away.

 

With all their mysterious financial backers, some of whom don't even pay income tax here.

 

Let's face it, we don't know what pressures these mysterious backers put on the Tories.

 

I believe I read the other day that one of the 'potential investors' in that lot down the road, who was Jewish, paid a significant sum to the Tories. I wonder what he might get in return? A balanced take on the Israeli / Palestine situation?

 

(I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with a company supporting a particular party BTW - just that a whiff of hypocrisy surrounds the Tories' denigration of unions supporting Labour).

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Whitey Grandad

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Fame for the Forum at last! Our very own Fitzhugh Fella gets mentioned is dispatches in the Daily Mail today!!!!

 

No wonder he is striking what with having to do all that work....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259684/BA-Unite-strikes-Willie-Walsh-vows-win-war-attrition.html

 

'pinkjacketed militant' they call him. Names like that can sometimes stick. ;)

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once_bitterne

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'pinkjacketed militant' they call him. Names like that can sometimes stick. ;)

 

I don't know what's the biggest crime. Actually I do, the pink jacket!!!

 

Can't believe that companies have to pay full wage for Union Reps who hardly do a hand's turn work in their lives and instead 'busy' themselves with 'important' Union business. Surely this should be done in their own time!

 

After regularly flying BA we took the decision to change to Virgin Atlantic this year even though it means flying into an airport an extra 90 mins drive from our destination that the one BA go to, just because of the threat of strikes.

 

We won't ever change back. Do the idiots from Unite even know the damage they are doing to the company they work for? I doubt they even care.....

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Its is like a time warp back to the 70's. Unite have obviously learnt nohting from the coal miners and print unions (where are they now?). BA are out to win at all costs and they will.

 

It is chilling to hear Unite officials crow about how much this strike is costing BA. Where do they think this money will come from? Yep, more cuts to staff and wages. It is very sad to see so many people put their faith into a bunch of dinosaurs. The days when the Union Barons called the shots died out years ago.

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you would think the BA staff have been working in some sort of indian sweat shop they way they are harping on..

 

 

I dont know if they have realised but we are just coming out of the biggest financial meltdown for over a generation..everyone else is facing cuts/changes

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Johnny Bognor

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£50K a year for 20 hours work. No wonder Duncan finds time to write his books.

 

£2,500 per hour????? Perhaps Byers, Hewitt and Hoon are in the wrong line of work, as they can only get £3,000 per day.

 

Joking aside, it is clear that BA have got their PR machine into overdrive, looking to discredit individuals. I would have thought that if FF is suspended, he may have a case of constructive dismissal as this 'leak' of personal information to the media puts BA on dodgy ground IMO.

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dune

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You don't know BA.

 

There are 8 reps on our main committee and 7 of us on are on gross misconduct charges. Think that probably says it all about the way BA intend to "burn" the reps (their word not mine).

 

Sure we hope to have a chance in a tribunal and BA will take that on the chin, but we will lose our jobs. BA will have done what they want - neutralise the Union.

 

In my particular case I merely acted the way I have done in my 12 years as a secretary, BA declined to take me off my flying duties to do vital union work (update the database as instructed by Justice Cox). I carried out my union duties instead of flying and have got charged with gross misconduct and had my salary stopped, without even a preliminary investigation.

 

There is a good chance I will lose my job - I have 2 youngish kids, but I believe it is right to stand up to a bully regardless of the consequence. I would not do that (after 34 years) unless I sincerely believed that what BA are currently doing to be 100% wrong.

 

For the cabin services director has clocked up fewer than 20 hours flying time in the past 18 months.........he would normally be expected to fly 838 hours a year

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259684/BA-Unite-strikes-Willie-Walsh-vows-win-war-attrition.html#ixzz0j0p9gGp8

 

Taking that much time off work to do Union work does seem a bit unreasonable to me.

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dune

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Interesting conflicting views there.

 

Duncan said he had to update a database on a judge's instructions. He was then charged by BA with GM for carrying out a judge's instructions.

 

His salary was stopped and yet the Daily Wail says he was paid.

 

Confusing eh?

 

 

For the cabin services director has clocked up fewer than 20 hours flying time in the past 18 months - despite drawing an annual salary of at least £50,000 from his BA and union work.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259684/BA-Unite-strikes-Willie-Walsh-vows-win-war-attrition.html#ixzz0j0s3hKtm

 

The figure they gave is presumably the figure he drew prior to his suspension. I'm not a big fan of the Daily Mail (much prefer the more balanced views of the Express) but it's clear they made an innocent mistake and didn't know about the suspension.

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For the cabin services director has clocked up fewer than 20 hours flying time in the past 18 months - despite drawing an annual salary of at least £50,000 from his BA and union work.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259684/BA-Unite-strikes-Willie-Walsh-vows-win-war-attrition.html#ixzz0j0s3hKtm

 

The figure they gave is presumably the figure he drew prior to his suspension. I'm not a big fan of the Daily Mail (much prefer the more balanced views of the Express) but it's clear they made an innocent mistake and didn't know about the suspension.

 

Shoddy journalism then for not checking their facts.

 

Or deliberate mistake as it suits their agenda?

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LOL! How long does it take to update a database? Well according to those figures, it's pretty much a 5 day a week job!

 

Surely a Union which has funds at its disposal both from membership subs and numerous other places can afford to employ a few admin people to do this sort of task?

 

Actually, come to think of it they do. Talking as someone who worked as a contractor at the Unison HQ I know that that Union was awash with full time employees so thinking UNITE would rely on someone like Duncan to update a database is ludicrous.

 

What is equally ludicrous is to expect any employeer to pay an employee for not doing their job. If a person wants to do additional Union duties then all well and good but this should be done in their own time or if that is not feasible then go part time and be paid by the Union for the work done for them. Union's are not charities they have a lot of financial clout.

 

Hopefully these archaic practices will soon be consigned to the dustbin.

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LOL! How long does it take to update a database? Well according to those figures, it's pretty much a 5 day a week job!

 

Surely a Union which has funds at its disposal both from membership subs and numerous other places can afford to employ a few admin people to do this sort of task?

Actually, come to think of it they do. Talking as someone who worked as a contractor at the Unison HQ I know that that Union was awash with full time employees so thinking UNITE would rely on someone like Duncan to update a database is ludicrous.

 

What is equally ludicrous is to expect any employeer to pay an employee for not doing their job. If a person wants to do additional Union duties then all well and good but this should be done in their own time or if that is not feasible then go part time and be paid by the Union for the work done for them. Union's are not charities they have a lot of financial clout.

 

Hopefully these archaic practices will soon be consigned to the dustbin.

 

They don't. They gave it all to Labour.

 

I think it is fair that a union rep could take time to fulfill certain union duties such as accompanying a member at a disciplinary hearing, however if, and it is an if, FF on spent 20 hours flying in an 18 month period due to union duties then perhaps the union should have been picking up his salary, as is the case for union leaders like Brendan Barber.

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Well is it misleading, or inaccurate? Is Duncan not receiving a salary from BA whilst suspended?

Duncan said no ages ago. I spoke about this to my wife this morning. Duncan also talked about BA hiring the same union buster that was involved in the post office.

 

Sad days - how do workers stand up for their rights? Oh yes i forgot, under new labour/conservatives they don't have any

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Duncan said no ages ago. I spoke about this to my wife this morning. Duncan also talked about BA hiring the same union buster that was involved in the post office.

 

Sad days - how do workers stand up for their rights? Oh yes i forgot, under new labour/conservatives they don't have any

Unfortunately when any business is steadily losing money then nobody has any rights. I spoke yesterday to one of my suppliers who said that during the last year he had five women workers who all offered to go on a four-day week, each taking turns to miss a day just so that they could all keep their jobs. We've come a long way since the 1950s but there are still some organisations where the workers think that the business is run for their benefits and not the customers'.

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Duncan said no ages ago. I spoke about this to my wife this morning. Duncan also talked about BA hiring the same union buster that was involved in the post office.

 

Sad days - how do workers stand up for their rights? Oh yes i forgot, under new labour/conservatives they don't have any

 

They are free to stand up for their rights. They are currently exercising their right to strike. Management are exercising their right to try to reduce costs to neaer to the industry average. Customers are continuing to head for the exits and fly with airlines who arent stricken with high prices and poor reliability. The BA cabin crew are destroying not only their own jobs but also those of all the other staff groups who have already settled.

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Workers need rights and should have changes forced on them overnight. If that happens its down to their incompetence that the situation has got so bad. Like in many disputes its the workers that have to pay for the incompetence of managament. Often these parasites are on six figure salarys and do eff all for it.

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