alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 who from this passing team is injured ? Schneiderlin, Svensson, Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more talk of "Total Football". No more talk of the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up". No more talk of the green shoots of recovery. etc, etc, etc. Barnsley were quite simply one of the worst fccuking teams to have ever played at SMS (on a par with Vospers!!!!), and we came nowhere near to beating them. That makes the current lot the worst Saints team to have ever played there!!!!! We were awful, and I saw nothing that gave me hope for the future. Had they not missed an open goal, we would be sitting at the bottom of the table. We are in a relegation scrap, no mistake about it and anyone who thinks differently is in la la land. Davies - 6- Nothing to do. Cork - 5 - Nothing special and a few misplaced passes Perry - 6 - OK, nothing to do really (Barnsley wer terrible) Wotton - 6 - As above Mills - 5 - Never offered anything going forward, never had anything to do defending. Wright-Phillips - 4 - Would be better off asking someone from the Chapel to make the numbers up. Surman - 6 - Much better in midfield, but never set the world alight. Gillet - 5 - Did nothing Lallana - 6 Tried everything, but never really come off and wasn't supported. Pekhart - 5 - Tried (and taht's about it) McGoldrick - 4 - Awful We had absolutely no cutting edge whatsoever. AWFUL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Maybe we should transfer the whole team to the Dutch second division, at least Jan has experience at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Administration - there is no way that these attendance levels will allow SFC to fulfill its side of the deal with Barclays, especially as we cannot flog anyone until January... that without a better attendance we can cut as many costs as we like , administration is looming. I did not believe we were that close to it pre season because i thought cut costs, and start winning,but the general public are not impressed by ball retention, square passing etc they want to see THEIR team winning Administration is not the finish though. Far from it. IF it happens we won't be the first and we won't be the last. It would undoubedtly have a serious negative effect upon the club - however, it is NOT the finish, not by a long shot. If you are a fan - then you cannot be so purely when the team are riding high. Unfortunately you have to take the lows (no pun intended) too. Things are not bright now - but who knows what will happen. If you want to support a club that wins every week then perhaps you should change allegiance to either Chelsea or Man Utd. Again - administration is a distinct possibility - the 'finish' is not..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Bring back 4-4-2 football We've been found out. The attractiveness has gone, along with the effectiveness. We're struggling upfront, and the constant switching of the front 3 doesn't help, plus we're getting overpowered in midfield. We still have the players to play a 4-4-2, if we don't hurry up we could be fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Just a little melodramatic there mate...! Perhaps you should define what you mean by 'finished'. I think he was trying to say f*cked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more talk of "Total Football". No more talk of the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up". No more talk of the green shoots of recovery. etc, etc, etc. Barnsley were quite simply one of the worst fccuking teams to have ever played at SMS (on a par with Vospers!!!!), and we came nowhere near to beating them. That makes the current lot the worst Saints team to have ever played there!!!!! We were awful, and I saw nothing that gave me hope for the future. Had they not missed an open goal, we would be sitting at the bottom of the table. We are in a relegation scrap, no mistake about it and anyone who thinks differently is in la la land. Davies - 6- Nothing to do. Cork - 5 - Nothing special and a few misplaced passes Perry - 6 - OK, nothing to do really (Barnsley wer terrible) Wotton - 6 - As above Mills - 5 - Never offered anything going forward, never had anything to do defending. Wright-Phillips - 4 - Would be better off asking someone from the Chapel to make the numbers up. Surman - 6 - Much better in midfield, but never set the world alight. Gillet - 5 - Did nothing Lallana - 6 Tried everything, but never really come off and wasn't supported. Pekhart - 5 - Tried (and taht's about it) McGoldrick - 4 - Awful We had absolutely no cutting edge whatsoever. AWFUL. The fact that after less than 10 games of "total football" BWP is back and playing awful says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Schneiderlin, Svensson, Holmes Can see your point with Schneiderlin and Holmes but I wouldn`t say that Svensson falls into the "Passing Game" category. The team today were so far away from the style of play that they were employing in pre-season and for the first league games and I can`t see that these two (as important as they have been) should have made that much difference to the style of play. It was very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 What a surprise, Alpine being melodramatic again! That's all the incentive I need to b*gger off of here for the rest of the night. Enjoy yourselves (or more likely, not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Wonder what spin the increasingly desperate OS will put on this result? After all, in the week there was a piece about 'all' the other teams we have played telling us how we were the best opposition they had come up against this season!! Yeah....bet they were saying that all the way back to the coach with three points in the bag!! Absolute joke. Stalin would have been very proud of our OS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Davis 7 - Had absolutely **** all to do all game Cork 7 - Decent player and a good right back, can he play there all the time please Wotton 7 - A bit slow first half but got batter as game progressed. Perry 10 - I can't fault him at all. He was superb Mills 7 - Dodgy start and then got to grips with Campbell-Ryce. Should keep his place. Gillett 6 - Did ok, nothing brilliant, a couple of ****e passes Surman 6 - Average game, would like to see him in the left wing slot. McGoldrick 3 - Waste of space, always on his heels, looks like he was sulking BWP 5 - I think he's shiit but at least he tried to stay wide. Lallana 7 - Everything apart from the end product. should have scored at least 2 Pekhart 5 - Cumbersome, needs a partner up front or better service. Poortvliet - this formation does not work if players do not stay wide. Skacel or Surman for the left wing role please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Administration - there is no way that these attendance levels will allow SFC to fulfill its side of the deal with Barclays, especially as we cannot flog anyone until January... kinda puts the whole boycott in perspective as if thats the way it takes us it will have damaged the club more than Lowe ever has. That is of course it is the boycott that is keeping the fans way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more talk of "Total Football". No more talk of the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up". No more talk of the green shoots of recovery. etc, etc, etc. Barnsley were quite simply one of the worst fccuking teams to have ever played at SMS (on a par with Vospers!!!!), and we came nowhere near to beating them. That makes the current lot the worst Saints team to have ever played there!!!!! We were awful, and I saw nothing that gave me hope for the future. Had they not missed an open goal, we would be sitting at the bottom of the table. We are in a relegation scrap, no mistake about it and anyone who thinks differently is in la la land. Davies - 6- Nothing to do. Cork - 5 - Nothing special and a few misplaced passes Perry - 6 - OK, nothing to do really (Barnsley wer terrible) Wotton - 6 - As above Mills - 5 - Never offered anything going forward, never had anything to do defending. Wright-Phillips - 4 - Would be better off asking someone from the Chapel to make the numbers up. Surman - 6 - Much better in midfield, but never set the world alight. Gillet - 5 - Did nothing Lallana - 6 Tried everything, but never really come off and wasn't supported. Pekhart - 5 - Tried (and taht's about it) McGoldrick - 4 - Awful We had absolutely no cutting edge whatsoever. AWFUL. Think that's a bit harsh on Gillet, who i thought had a good game and generous to pekhart, who i thought was ****e. I agree with BWP and mcGoldrick, who were both useless and effectively had us playing with 9 men. Disappointed with Jan as he should have shuffled the pack earlier and Thompson wasn't the answer. We should be winning these games and based on the last three matches, the season is going to be a long long struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 (edited) What a surprise, Alpine being melodramatic again! That's all the incentive I need to b*gger off of here for the rest of the night. Enjoy yourselves (or more likely, not). The way things are going, Alps is going to end up being proclaimed a prophet. As said earlier on this thread there are only three positives from today's game; we didn't lose, we didn't concede, and Donny lost. Edited 20 September, 2008 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 What a surprise, Alpine being melodramatic again! That's all the incentive I need to b*gger off of here for the rest of the night. Enjoy yourselves (or more likely, not). Bye ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 that without a better attendance we can cut as many costs as we like , administration is looming. I did not believe we were that close to it pre season because i thought cut costs, and start winning,but the general public are not impressed by ball retention, square passing etc they want to see THEIR team winning Left for a friend's to have a beer long before the end, only Lallana looked capable today, Davis and the back 4 had very little to do. 2 more defeats and I think the board may opt for administration, Wilde hasn't got any capital and a 20p a share offer soon from an interested party and I think he'll weaken rather than lose the lot. Askham's proxy would then be divided. A takeover needs to happen quickly now to avoid administration - it's the only way. Fulthorpe - time to put your cards on the table or step aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFM Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Administration is not the finish though. Far from it. IF it happens we won't be the first and we won't be the last. It would undoubedtly have a serious negative effect upon the club - however, it is NOT the finish, not by a long shot. If you are a fan - then you cannot be so purely when the team are riding high. Unfortunately you have to take the lows (no pun intended) too. Things are not bright now - but who knows what will happen. If you want to support a club that wins every week then perhaps you should change allegiance to either Chelsea or Man Utd. Again - administration is a distinct possibility - the 'finish' is not..! What a load of sanctimonious crxp! No one on here is going to change allegiance but you are basically saying that if you support Southampton you should be happy to have no dreams, no hopes, no expectations and no right to be pxssed off when things look utterly ****e. I can't stand people, who in the face of 3 years complete ongoing and worsening disaster, dredge up this tired old pathetic cliche of "go and support a bug club then". We are all stuck with our club but if you feel anything for SFC YOU should be ****ED OFF at what has become of us. I don't see how it makes you a great fan to be happy about our current predicament. To me it makes you someone who doesn't really care that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 wha.t a load of old poo. still, at least we are playing the kids etc blah blah boring old piffle we're third from bottom, and it looks like that will be high for us. relegated even from the mini league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Lets hope that when there forward skipped round Davis with about 8 minutes left and put it in the side netting was a turning point in our season. Surman playing central midfield is a mistake , he is one footed and should be left midfield. It is all very well playing BWP and DMG as the wide players but they keep drifting in field and there were vast spaces down both flanks. The other question is why do we pull every back to defend corners, Barnsley left 3 up and every time we had a corner we had to keep 4 back to defend it. We dominate the game between the boxes for long periods but in relatity their keeper did not have a difficult save to make. Very disappointing AND at present i cannot see it getting better Glad to see you summarised the main problems. What was McGoldrick playing at, just like wednesday, wandering inside, never outside, never covering, ambling about hands on hips, almost "if I can't play up front I'm not interested" Unless the team retain their shape we are just going to get blocked off like today allowing the defence to pack. JP went down in my estimation today, I would have pulled the lazy git off after half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I was actually really, really bored. Total football just ain't what it used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 What a load of sanctimonious crxp! No one on here is going to change allegiance but you are basically saying that if you support Southampton you should be happy to have no dreams, no hopes, no expectations and no right to be pxssed off when things look utterly ****e. I can't stand people, who in the face of 3 years complete ongoing and worsening disaster, dredge up this tired old pathetic cliche of "go and support a bug club then". We are all stuck with our club but if you feel anything for SFC YOU should be ****ED OFF at what has become of us. I don't see how it makes you a great fan to be happy about our current predicament. To me it makes you someone who doesn't really care that much. My post of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Unless the team retain their shape we are just going to get blocked off like today allowing the defence to pack. JP went down in my estimation today, I would have pulled the lazy git off after half an hour. Completely agree with both points. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 What a load of sanctimonious crxp! No one on here is going to change allegiance but you are basically saying that if you support Southampton you should be happy to have no dreams, no hopes, no expectations and no right to be pxssed off when things look utterly ****e. I can't stand people, who in the face of 3 years complete ongoing and worsening disaster, dredge up this tired old pathetic cliche of "go and support a bug club then". We are all stuck with our club but if you feel anything for SFC YOU should be ****ED OFF at what has become of us. I don't see how it makes you a great fan to be happy about our current predicament. To me it makes you someone who doesn't really care that much. Agree with Long Shot. F**king good post. I've been saying for ages the happy-clappies are doing more damage than those of us accused of being "negative" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Is JP worse that Steve Wigley yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Not winning matches is keeping the fans away including me!! I want to see my team win. There is no boycott just plenty of totally disillusioned fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 (edited) Is JP worse that Steve Wigley yet? No-where near, in my estimate. Wigley wrecked a mid-table Premiership team. He had money and resources (though maybe Lowe was allegedly picking his team too). Edited 20 September, 2008 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Disappointed with Jan as he should have shuffled the pack earlier and Thompson wasn't the answer. And I couldn't even be bothered to rate the subs. Thomson - 4 - He really isn't ready John - 5 - Didn't really see the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 What a load of sanctimonious crxp! No one on here is going to change allegiance but you are basically saying that if you support Southampton you should be happy to have no dreams, no hopes, no expectations and no right to be pxssed off when things look utterly ****e. I can't stand people, who in the face of 3 years complete ongoing and worsening disaster, dredge up this tired old pathetic cliche of "go and support a bug club then". We are all stuck with our club but if you feel anything for SFC YOU should be ****ED OFF at what has become of us. I don't see how it makes you a great fan to be happy about our current predicament. To me it makes you someone who doesn't really care that much. Actually I don't think that I said any of those things at all. What I said is that 'administration' and 'finished' are not one and the same thing. If you want to write things that you think I said in order just to have a go - feel free. Please be advised that that I am not at all happy at what has happened to the club over the past 3 years or so, but I also know that SFC has no god given right to 'strut its stuff' in the Premier league just because errr we are SFC. I said absolutely nothing about being a 'great fan' either - yet another anwarranted pop from you - but again - if it makes you feel better, feel free. I am in the fortunate position of having supported the club for some 40 years now - I have seen both the good and the bad - therefore perhaps it is a little easier for me to accept our current plight. But nowhere - absolutely nowhere did I say that I was happy about it. My point was - and still is - (in case you've still missed it) - 'administration' and 'finished' are not one and the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 On paper this is one of the easiest games of the season, therefore, I'm dissapointed. It was one of the easiest games on paper last season as well but then we managed to lose 3-2 to 10 men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Poorish game but not the time to reach for the suicide pills yet. For long spells the positiveness of this young side was missing. 3 Games in 7 days and our injury list certainly took it's toll. I am worried if we persist with McGoldrick. He was hopeless today. He was supposed to be out on the right to give us width but spent most of his time inside and behind the speed of play. When he was out on the right he stood stationary with his hands on his hips. If he had had pockets no doubt his hand would have stayed firmly in the same. He lacked movement, motivation and skill. Liked Cork at right back but he lacks pace. Wooton and Perry did ok (not teasted much) but I worry about the lack of hight. Mills looked a decent left back and will come on from this game. BWP looked as if he was up for the game but lacked that final ball/control. Why when they had corners were all 11 back in the penalty area. Where was the outlet! Too early yet but worrying signs that need to be addressed by the coaching staff. We should be winning these games. Man of the match for me was Lallana who gave it his all but without real results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Administration is not the finish though. Far from it. IF it happens we won't be the first and we won't be the last. It would undoubedtly have a serious negative effect upon the club - however, it is NOT the finish, not by a long shot. If you are a fan - then you cannot be so purely when the team are riding high. Unfortunately you have to take the lows (no pun intended) too. Things are not bright now - but who knows what will happen. If you want to support a club that wins every week then perhaps you should change allegiance to either Chelsea or Man Utd. Again - administration is a distinct possibility - the 'finish' is not..! i have supported this club home and away for 47 years, and seen highs and lows, and do not need to be told to support Chelsea or United. I do not expect to win every week , never have , but STERILE CRAP like i watched today, did you see it ?, will drive people away from SMS. It breaks my heart to see how the actions of about 10 greedy men have slowly ruined this club, driving in from Locks Heath now takes 20 minutes , one of my sons (14) would rather go to the pictures than use his season ticket , the other one (20) still goes but for how long who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Were we playing for the draw, then? It did occur to me, since so much of the play was going down our right, that reason might be to shield Mills as much as possible, or at least to keep the ball away from Campbell-Ryce. Mills did himself credit, though (was that his first start?) - I didn't see too many mistakes, and he make one or two effective clearances. Would have far preferred to see him linking up with Surman, though, and Dyer should have come on for McGoldrick. I think we missed Schniederlin and Wotton in the middle. And I kept thinking that we were playing to make up for weaknesses (like having 11 men defending the corners, or not playing the left side of the pitch) rather than playing to our strengths. And if you play like that, you're bound not to have the confidence to score. Hope they snap out of it soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Agree with Long Shot. F**king good post. I've been saying for ages the happy-clappies are doing more damage than those of us accused of being "negative" Strange that you would agree with him - you missed the point entirely as to being 'in administration' and 'finished' - but if it suits you - fine. BTW - I find being associated as a so called 'happy clappy' quite offensive too. I too am more than displeased with our current form and standing - however I will desist from turning it into an insults throwing thread - eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Well i have to say that is among the worst games i have ever seen any team play let alone Southampton. It was one of those too painful to watch type of games. Barnsley are major **** but sadley we are even ****ter. Why the **** did we go for 1 up front at home to Barnsley?! We looked like the away side at times and were going for a point. Was it me or were all our shots like passes to their keeper? My 2 year old nephew could of done better then that ****! As for Iain Hume that has to be among the worst misses i have seen thankfully for us! I'm sure all of us thought that was it when he went round KD. 7 games gone, 21 points up for grabs. 3 home games against average teams in Barnsley,Blackpool and Ipswich and we have a grand total of 5 points. That is not good enough. Since the Brum games we have played really really poor and i'm starting to question Jan's decisions already in terms of team selections and tactics. We got Doncaster then Norwich in the next 2 games and i expect at least 4 poinst from them or we will be really in the ****. Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Poorish game but not the time to reach for the suicide pills yet. For long spells the positiveness of this young side was missing. 3 Games in 7 days and our injury list certainly took it's toll. I am worried if we persist with McGoldrick. He was hopeless today. He was supposed to be out on the right to give us width but spent most of his time inside and behind the speed of play. When he was out on the right he stood stationary with his hands on his hips. If he had had pockets no doubt his hand would have stayed firmly in the same. He lacked movement, motivation and skill. Liked Cork at right back but he lacks pace. Wooton and Perry did ok (not teasted much) but I worry about the lack of hight. Mills looked a decent left back and will come on from this game. BWP looked as if he was up for the game but lacked that final ball/control. Why when they had corners were all 11 back in the penalty area. Where was the outlet! Too early yet but worrying signs that need to be addressed by the coaching staff. We should be winning these games. Man of the match for me was Lallana who gave it his all but without real results. We could have been watching the same game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I can't stand people, who in the face of 3 years complete ongoing and worsening disaster, dredge up this tired old pathetic cliche of "go and support a bug club then". Or maybe cricket? Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 i have supported this club home and away for 47 years, and seen highs and lows, and do not need to be told to support Chelsea or United. I do not expect to win every week , never have , but STERILE CRAP like i watched today, did you see it ?, will drive people away from SMS. It breaks my heart to see how the actions of about 10 greedy men have slowly ruined this club, driving in from Locks Heath now takes 20 minutes , one of my sons (14) would rather go to the pictures than use his season ticket , the other one (20) still goes but for how long who knows Nope - didn't see it Mike (would have loved to). I'm not subscribing that you go watch another team - I too have been supporting for 40 years. The point I am making, that if you support Saints then you don't expect to win every week. Yes I accept that things are not good right now, but what do we do then - not support any team? We have to take the good with the bad. But the main point that I was highlighting is that 'Administation' and 'being finished' are two entirely different scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 20 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 September, 2008 No-where near, in my estimate. Wigley wrecked a mid-table Premiership team. He had money and resources (though maybe Lowe was picking his team too). I can tollerate your posts more than most apls, but that last bit is wide of the mark. Lowe isn't a football manager, he has nothing to gain from the first team. I think he has appointed JP as a yes-man, one who is willing to work with an almost entirely youth team and not complain about our (lack of) transfer pollicy. I think he has stopped short of actually picking the team himself and can't see any grounds for that accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Complete ****e, I don't even expect a relegation fight after watching that, we will be down with no fight whatsoever. I thought these youngsters were supposed to play with passion and pride, half the ****s looked like they didn't give a toss. McGoldrick just strolled about like an arrogant ****. We will finish bottom by a distance IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I was promised Lucy Pinder in this thread - where exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I think he has stopped short of actually picking the team himself and can't see any grounds for that accusation. Well I heard some good gossip today and maybe the assertion from Alpine isn't too far from the truth. Was he in the dressing room before the QPR game, was he offering his input on team formation and tactics????? Was he in the dressing room again today talking tactics???? And as for some more gossip, did anyone hear about the bust up with Webster and Magilton midweek??? Apparently it got lairy as Webster was pi5s5ed off that Magilton did not acknowledge his help in getting Wright to go to Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 But the main point that I was highlighting is that 'Administation' and 'being finished' are two entirely different scenarios. And you've now repeated this pedantic point several times. To what end ? I didnt respond because I regard it as irrelevant. Most of the people arguing against adminsitration are doing so because they feel it would REALLY f**k the club up. Guess what ? With the results on the pitch and only 14,000 fans turning up, the club is REALLY f**ked already. Yes, yes, I am sure some entity called Southampton Football Club will come out at the end of this (to address you pedantry), but it will not be an entity any of us recognise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I can tollerate your posts more than most apls, but that last bit is wide of the mark. Lowe isn't a football manager, he has nothing to gain from the first team. I think he has appointed JP as a yes-man, one who is willing to work with an almost entirely youth team and not complain about our (lack of) transfer pollicy. I think he has stopped short of actually picking the team himself and can't see any grounds for that accusation. But by forcing the sale of the higher earning players and mandating the use of the youngsters, Lowes' policies are having a major influence on the selection of the team, if it is short of him writing out the team sheet. If it is not for a financial reason, why is Rudi not playing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I was promised Lucy Pinder in this thread - where exactly? she is up front on tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 A dreadful performance. Well done the back 4 who looked a bit more solid even accounting for how poor barnsley were. In particular Mills looked pretty assured i thought. Gillet did ok in midfield, lallana as always never gave it away. Surman can't play left back and was equally crap in midfield. A massicely overrated player. McGoldrick and BWP were simply woeful, as was Peckhart Team ratings: Davis 6 Cork 6 Perry 7 Wotton 7 Mills 7 Gillett 6 Surman 2 Lallana 7 McG 1 BWP 1 Peckhart 1 I hope Rupert is happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 I can tollerate your posts more than most apls, but that last bit is wide of the mark. Lowe isn't a football manager, he has nothing to gain from the first team. I think he has appointed JP as a yes-man, one who is willing to work with an almost entirely youth team and not complain about our (lack of) transfer pollicy. I think he has stopped short of actually picking the team himself and can't see any grounds for that accusation. Fairy muff. Dont want to get the site into trouble, I'll edit the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 McGoldrick just strolled about like an arrogant **** Like I said before, his control is ****e. McGoldrick can trap a ball further than I can kick it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 nope not at all when results are what really matter but the positive things that we are doing is still much better than some of the tripe we were served last year. if they can get enough points to make us safe and play the game the way they are trying to then it will be a big improvment on last year. dreamland would have us being the next arsenal or ajax and walk away with the league and onwards You are joking, right? That was the worst Saints game that I have ever witnessed, although there was one Wednesday night at the Dell against West Ham that came close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 And you've now repeated this pedantic point several times. To what end ? I didnt respond because I regard it as irrelevant. Most of the people arguing against adminsitration are doing so because they feel it would REALLY f**k the club up. Guess what ? With the results on the pitch and only 14,000 fans turning up, the club is REALLY f**ked already. Yes, yes, I am sure some entity called Southampton Football Club will come out at the end of this (to address you pedantry), but it will not be an entity any of us recognise. Interesting - and is that because you only recognise the successful 'Premier League' version of SFC and not the lowely 'CCC, Division 1' version. Nobody is happy about our predicament - you dont need to tell us the ramifications of 14000 crowds and the fact that we drew with the bottom club at home - we know. No doubt when the 'entity' comes out of the other end of this dark tunnel and reaches the promised land again - you will be wanting to be part of the 'entity' once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 at least this league is exciting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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