Anyone struggle with sleeping..?

[Thedelldays]

for a while now I have had problems sleeping..almost every morning I wake up around 4am and struggle to get back to bed..

 

I also find it hard to nod off too....

 

anyone else with problems like this..?

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

Guilt, plain and simple...

[Ponty]

No, my conscience is clear and I sleep like a log.

[saintkiptanui]

I am a terrible sleeper, every night I suffer from spas attacks where my body and brain don't agree it's time to sleep, constantly wake in a panic thinking I can't breath or move. Usually takes a good two hours to get to sleep, reading is the only thing that gets me to sleep. If I wake early during the week I could sleep frever, at the weekend if I wake at 6am, thats me awake. Sleeping is for the weak.

[Dog]

Try bed socks, it is a guarantee'd good night sleep. Trust me :/

[Jillyanne]

No, my conscience is clear and I sleep with Dog.

 

Better.

[Smirking_Saint]

I have heard the last thing you wish to be.... is asleep whilst dog is around

[Jimmy Gabriel's Halo]

for a while now I have had problems sleeping..almost every morning I wake up around 4am and struggle to get back to bed..

I also find it hard to nod off too....

 

anyone else with problems like this..?

 

...then don't get out of it in the first place

 

Try varying the time you go to bed. Watch a late night film. A late night may make you a bit more tired the next night meaning you may sleep better.

 

On the other hand, don't worry about it as everyone needs different amounts of sleep, there is no set formula. When Mrs T was PM I believe she got by on less than 6 hours a night.

 

Do not have sex (either with yourself or anybody else) as I am told this raises the adrenalin levels and you will definately not be able to sleep afterwards. Mrs JGH says this keeps her awake. She only tells me this as I work nights.

 

Other tips: do not eat too late in the evening, especially a curry as this will only make you farrt a lot and will keep you, and everyone else in the house, awake.

Do not drink too much alcohol, unless you have drunk yourself into oblivion, this will also keep you awake. Paradoxically though I sometimes find a smallish whisky mac and ginger does the trick.

Do not get too hot or too cold at night. Use the right tog rating duvet for the time of year or change it if you're too hot or too cold.

A mug of warm-hot milk before bedtime will help you sleep. Don't ask me why but it does.

 

HTH and good luck.

[Ponty]

Better.

 

Ahem. The Lounge.

[Jillyanne]

Ahem. The Lounge.

 

Ahem the whole thread apart from 1 post have treated it as a Muppet Show affair, including a fellow MOD!!!

[Dog]

Ahem the whole thread apart from 1 post have treated it as a Muppet Show affair, including a fellow MOD!!!

 

My bed socks wasn't a joke HTH.

[dubai_phil]

for a while now I have had problems sleeping..almost every morning I wake up around 4am and struggle to get back to bed..

 

I also find it hard to nod off too....

 

anyone else with problems like this..?

 

Booze....

 

 

It's either too much (so you wake up for a pee at 4am) or too little

 

Failing that the answer is actually very simple...

 

How many hours a day do you spend sitting at a keyboard? The brain ain't getting worked and the body is becoming ESB (his own admission BTW from another thread)

 

Take up fishing or golf or training for the forum match. Failing that, next visit to Asia they do damned good copies of medzzzzzzzzzzzz

[St Landrew]

I am a terrible sleeper, every night I suffer from spas attacks where my body and brain don't agree it's time to sleep, constantly wake in a panic thinking I can't breath or move. Usually takes a good two hours to get to sleep, reading is the only thing that gets me to sleep. If I wake early during the week I could sleep frever, at the weekend if I wake at 6am, thats me awake. Sleeping is for the weak.

 

Well I read somewhere you admitting to a bit of a drink and a gambling problem. I'd suggest they might have something to do with your inability to sleep.

[St Landrew]

Ahem the whole thread apart from 1 post have treated it as a Muppet Show affair, including a fellow MOD!!!

 

You're right, it has been light hearted, but quoting someone, and then changing their words is something Admin and Mods frown upon, when we spot it. OK, in TMS, but not in the Lounge.

 

No problems, but just in case you didn't know.

[saintkiptanui]

Ahem the whole thread apart from 1 post have treated it as a Muppet Show affair, including a fellow MOD!!!

2, my post was serious.

[Ponty]

My post was serious, and I'm pretty sure DSM's was too.

[saintkiptanui]

Well I read somewhere you admitting to a bit of a drink and a gambling problem. I'd suggest they might have something to do with your inability to sleep.

 

I didn't have a gambling/drinking problem when it started 20 years ago. I used to have to say Caprice, euthanasia, alzheimers before I could sleep.

[Tractor_Saint]

for a while now I have had problems sleeping..almost every morning I wake up around 4am and struggle to get back to bed..

 

I also find it hard to nod off too....

 

anyone else with problems like this..?

 

You need to go back to what happened just before you couldn't sleep past 4am. Usually stress related tbh or maybe someones hidden an alarm clock somewhere that goes off at 4am

 

However, money is on stress / change in circumstances

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

What you are describing DD is my everyday reality - the older I get the more I tend to tire earlier in the evening and wake correspondingly earlier in the small hours of the morning . Rarely do I get more than 5 hours sleep a night in total and sometimes much less than that . The flippant replies on here show how those fortunate enough to enjoy a good nights sleep utterly fail to understand how desperate a problem insomnia can be .

 

Sorry I don't have the cure apart obvious stuff like try not to go to bed too early in the evening and avoiding stimulants such as coffee ... etc . If it's any consolation humans can manage surprisingly well on just a few hours sleep and you are almost certainly not 'ill' as I understand it , this is just a natural part of the ageing process I'm afraid .

[Joneth]

My sleep patterns have always been crazy. I've gone over a week without sleep several times and other times I've been falling asleep at 6 or 7 until 2 o clock the next day. Not fun.

[saintkiptanui]

My sleep patterns have always been crazy. I've gone over a week without sleep several times and other times I've been falling asleep at 6 or 7 until 2 o clock the next day. Not fun.

 

Depression??

[Barney Trubble]

In France they say 'a clear conscience is a good pillow'....maybe you and your inner Delldays need to recalibrate.

 

I used to have problems too, tried oils on my pillow, reading, taking the TV out of the bedroom, relaxation tapes, exercise before bed, such as a light run, sit ups etc, just to get the body sleepy....have tried Yoga but the best thing that helped me was to write down thing's that may be troubling me and promise myself to deal with them the following day.....sounds ghey but it worked for me.

 

Some tips on here, its a good site all over.

 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[saintkiptanui]

In France they say 'a clear conscience is a good pillow'....maybe you and your inner Delldays need to recalibrate.

 

I used to have problems too, tried oils on my pillow, reading, taking the TV out of the bedroom, relaxation tapes, exercise before bed, such as a light run, sit ups etc, just to get the body sleepy....have tried Yoga but the best thing that helped me was to write down thing's that may be troubling me and promise myself to deal with them the following day.....sounds ghey but it worked for me.

 

Some tips on here, its a good site all over.

 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Writing down all your troubles before bed sounds like a recipe for disaster

[Junction 9]

I am a terrible sleeper, every night I suffer from spas attacks where my body and brain don't agree it's time to sleep, constantly wake in a panic thinking I can't breath or move. Usually takes a good two hours to get to sleep, reading is the only thing that gets me to sleep. If I wake early during the week I could sleep frever, at the weekend if I wake at 6am, thats me awake. Sleeping is for the weak.

 

Exactly the same as me. If it's a workday I cannot get up to save my life, I feel exahusted and that I could sleep for hours more.

I have a day off tomorrow, an opportunity for a lie in. I guarantee I'll be wide awake at exactly the same time and won't feel tired at all. Proper ball ache.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

My sleep patterns have always been crazy. I've gone over a week without sleep several times and other times I've been falling asleep at 6 or 7 until 2 o clock the next day. Not fun.

 

I've gone 48 hours without sleep and that was bad enough , a week is almost unimaginable . My sympathies for what it's worth .

[Barney Trubble]

Writing down all your troubles before bed sounds like a recipe for disaster

 

It helped me Kipman but you have to actually deal with the issue/problem or it loses the desired effect.

 

Just take it one problem at a time, mind you, I think you'll need a bumper size of a4 paper;)

 

Also, writing your problems on a betting slip doesn't count Kipman:D

[saintkiptanui]

It helped me Kipman but you have to actually deal with the issue/problem or it loses the desired effect.

 

Just take it one problem at a time, mind you, I think you'll need a bumper size of a4 paper;)

 

Also, writing your problems on a betting slip doesn't count Kipman:D

I prefer to brush them under the carpet. My missus has a habit of mentioning how the Kitchen needs decorating or ideas for the spare room as I'm trying to get to sleep which instantly puts 2 hours on my insomnia:(

 

N.B we have a thrilling sex life.

[saint_bert]

Im strange in the fact that I love sleep, just dont do alot of it.

 

Wake up 2-3 times a night(unless battered)

 

Dunno if its subconscious-alarm for work or listening out if nipper wakes up.

 

Shame as I do love my sleep

[Draino76]

I have a crap bed, drink too much, have a gf with flailing arms and legs, stressful job and play too much Modern Warfare 2. Plus a child that wakes up at 4.30 to help him with his Nintendo DS. If I get 6 hours I'm ****ing chuffed.

[bridge too far]

Kip, if I have a problem sleeping, I usually find a couple of glasses of wine in the evening cures the problem.

 

My biggest problem, however, is that the body's tired but the mind won't switch off.

 

Oh, and Mr TF's snoring

[saintkiptanui]

Kip, if I have a problem sleeping, I usually find a couple of glasses of wine in the evening cures the problem.

 

My biggest problem, however, is that the body's tired but the mind won't switch off.

 

Oh, and Mr TF's snoring

2 glasses lead to a bottle. I agree about body tired but the mind won't switch off, always something to think about. The missus does the snoring in our house and every night she insists on a cuddle before sleep, she falls asleep within secnds and I'm left with her dribbling on my arm until I can safely push her aside

[Gigersaint]

I've had a sleep disorder ever since I was involved in a bad road accident 24 years ago. I very rarely get tired in the evenings and will still be wide awake at 3.00am in the morning even when I have to be up for work at 7.30am. Most nights during the working week I'm lucky to get more than 4 hours sleep.

However on days when I do not have to be up for work, usually only at weekends, I can sometimes manage to stay asleep for 8 hours, still being awake till 3.00am but get up at 11.00am.

After 2 decades of poor sleep it would be nice to at least be used to it but unfortunately most of the time through the working week I can at times still feel knackered and the Doc's haven't been able to offer much help either over the years.

[RedAndWhite91]

I won't get tired until about 1am, and then if I don't have to get up the next day I won't see morning. On days where I do have to get up it's a real struggle to get out of bed, and usually takes me a good hour of snoozing my alarm.

 

It's annoying, not tired at night, but almost incapable of waking up in the morning.

[St Landrew]

Kip, if I have a problem sleeping, I usually find a couple of glasses of wine in the evening cures the problem.

 

My biggest problem, however, is that the body's tired but the mind won't switch off.

 

Oh, and Mr TF's snoring

 

2 glasses lead to a bottle. I agree about body tired but the mind won't switch off, always something to think about. The missus does the snoring in our house and every night she insists on a cuddle before sleep, she falls asleep within secnds and I'm left with her dribbling on my arm until I can safely push her aside

 

About a week into the New Year, I decided to cut down on my alcohol consumption. I wanted a change of pace, and for the last 6 weeks have hardly drunk more than a couple of glasses of red wine in total. Guess what, it hasn't changed a bloody thing. I sleep no better, I feel no better, I'm not lighter, or have more or less energy.

 

For the last few years, instead of listening to radio drama at the time it is transmitted, I often record it and burn it to CD. If I find I can't sleep I pop a CD into a bedside player, and listen away. Almost certainly I'll be asleep in 5 minutes whether I want to or not. It now works so well, it has almost become something that Pavlov would have experimented with. No CD, no sleeping. Pop CD on, sleep occurs almost immediately.

 

I don't suggest you go to the lengths I do, but try an audio book.

[swannymere]

I often wake around 3-4am sit upright and swing my legs over the side of the bed and then rest my head against a cupboard by the side of my bed and then fall asleep again; for about 30 mins in a sitting position! I've been doing this for about 5 years ever since i had severe pneumonia and the only way to sleep was in a chair. Average about 3-4 hours a day and catch up at the weekend in the afternoon.

[Jillyanne]

 

but try an audio book.

 

Dylan Thomas' Undermilk Wood is a favourite of mine.

[oxfordshire_saint]

I'm in a bit of a bad cycle at the moment. I stay awake till about 1-2am, I'm up at 7am for work and then after getting in from work I tend to doze off about 7pm before waking up at around 9-10pm and continuing the pattern.

 

Even if I manage to stop myself from sleeping in the evening, I still can't get to sleep until gone midnight.

[69 saint]

I got a memory foam mattress topper trouble is you cant get out of bed in the morning as its so comfortable

[scott_saints]

Weird. Was gonna start an identical thread.

 

At the moment I'm waking up ATLEAST once anight after getting to sleep. P1sses me off!

 

Is there an "off" button on the mind?

[Whitey Grandad]

Don't do anything to mentally arduous late at night. Try a bit of reading. I sometimes have the same problem but I never get up. Usually it's because I'm cold but the big boss insists on having a cold bedroom so I use her as a hot-water bottle.

[St Landrew]

I sometimes wake up during the night, but usually I look at the clock, which shows a reassuring few more hours, and then restart the CD I popped into the player, hours earlier. Sleep is almost immediate.

[RedAndWhite91]

FFS why am I not at all tired

[tpbury]

Used to be a real issue for me. Then I had kids - anytime not schlepping round doing chores is spent asleep.

[the stain]

I've had loads of problems with this. My doctor recently gave me a load of Temazepam. It's the sh1t. I'm barely even sentient now.

 

:smt059

[Hatch]

I've not been able to sleep properly for 20 odd years now.

Been even worse since child 3 was born as she never needed any sleep at all it seems.

4 Hours a night is about normal for me.

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

Getting to sleep is a problem for me unless, as BTF has conceded, a couple of sherbets are imbibed before retiring.

 

Waking up in the morning, now that's another matter. I used to be like a chicken, wide awake at first light, now I can hardly drag myself out of bed even when busting to use the loo.

[Master Bates]

I've been struggling to sleep, waking up 3 or 4 times in the night, been remembering some really cool dreams though

[Saint Keith]

i had similar problems to DD. my wife noticed that i used to stop breathing in the night, in between snoring, and would wake up feeling more tired than when i went to bed

 

went to a specialist, and they rigged me up to all sorts of leads and monitors and sensors, and discovered that i stopped breathing over 300 times during the night. so basically i was only ever asleep for about a minute or two

 

they gave me this machine which gently pumps oxygen into you to keep all the airways clear, result of which i have slept like a lamb for the past 3 years, the difference is amazing, and people who know me noticed a huge change in personality as well

 

oh, and a side affect, no snoring for mrs keith to put up with

[Poshie72]

Had problems with sleep for years, began after my 2nd child was born and I had Postnatal depression. Going to sleep is no problem but I now wake at 3am no matter what time I go to sleep. I am tired before I start work, as effectively already been awake 6 hours.

[Viking Warrior]

Dell days your not alone

 

I have the same symptoms. perhaps we should start an insomniacs saints forum

 

Even the sleeping pills I have only last 2-3 hours