Liquidshokk Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 We only need to keep drawing our games and those below us to win a few and we're there. Theres such a fine line between us all in the bottom half points wise so you cant surely deny that is a bit close for comfort? Not wanting to be negative or owt FWIW I think it will be a draw on Saturday anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 well, we have no right to beat anyone..so why not..? List the 12 games Saints will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 List the 12 games Saints will lose. I can list many that we should have won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 List the 12 games Saints will lose. Surely Saints are far too unpredictable for that. Results this season have shown so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I said that 'we are bit close for comfort'. Just like to see a few more points between us and the relegation zone. Plus arrogance is a dangerous condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 For Saints to be in danger of relegation it would take a HUGE downturn in form. Yes, atm form isn't great but would have to get a lot worse and would include losing a lot of games home and away. You really shouldn't be concerned at all about relegation. I predict at worst Saints will come 8th this season and at best 5th if they have a great 18 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Hmmm. I see what you are saying but stranger things can happen. 8th aty worst ? you must be joking ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 To be fair I think we do have some great options and I def don't know our best 11. It may be worth looking at Norwich to see who may play well against them? I do think we have some really good players and good up and coming talent. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 To be fair I think we do have some great options and I def don't know our best 11. It may be worth looking at Norwich to see who may play well against them? I do think we have some really good players and good up and coming talent. COYS Agree with you that AP has to use the rmeainder of the season to get his ideal side. IMO we should now be preparing for next season, without totoally taking our eye off the ball this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Have 4 spaces left on our minibus if anyone needs a space, £20 each, departing from Shirley at 0730, in the pub by midday!. email me at shelterandshade@yahoo.co.uk . Leave your phone number and I'll call you back. Spaces gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Davis Otsemobor Jaidi Fonte Harding Hammond Spiderman Antonio Puncheon Lallana Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I would leave Otsemobor...I think he might have a hard time at Carrow Road form crowd and the Norwich players will exploit his weakness, which they know well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Davis Thomas, Fonte, Jaidi, Harding Antonio/Waigo, Hammond, Morgan, Lallana, Puncheon Lambert subs Bart,Otsemobor,Mills,Seaborne,Antonio/Waigo,Barnard,Wotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 sorry to be pessimistic but we will lose this and it will be curtains on our season except for wembley of course, hope i'm proved wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 sorry to be pessimistic but we will lose this and it will be curtains on our season except for wembley of course, hope i'm proved wrong I understand why you are pessimistic, and I think there is a chance that we might lose, but there's no reason for it to be the end of our season. We'll have to win pretty much every game apart from Leeds and Charlton at home and pick up another 40 or so points from the remaining 18 games. It's a stretch but it's still possible even after a defeat on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 ------------Davis---------------- Thomas--Jaidi--Fonte-----Harding Bonio--Morgan--Deano--Puncheon ------Lambert--Waigo----------- Subs: Bart, Perry, Seabourne, Lallana, Wotton, Holmes, Barnard Probably unfair to drop Lallana to the bench as he was our best player against P*mpey, but with Puncheon in the team now i'm not sure how he'd fit into a 4-4-2. If we were playing a 4-5-1 i'd play him in the hole behind Lambert with Antonio and Puncheon on the left, but I think we've got our wings sorted out now so Lallana is reduced to the bench unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I will more than likely be there on Saturday and on Tuesday at Wycombe and here are a few questions that I would like answered please: 1). Can you pay on the day? 2). What is the quickest way by train as am I right in thinking that there are Engineering Works going on on Saturday or am I wrong?! Thanks! Will be my 2nd time to Norwich and I think that we will give them a Good Go but I think we will come up short and lose 3-1 but we will see ! COYR ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I understand why you are pessimistic, and I think there is a chance that we might lose, but there's no reason for it to be the end of our season. We'll have to win pretty much every game apart from Leeds and Charlton at home and pick up another 40 or so points from the remaining 18 games. It's a stretch but it's still possible even after a defeat on Saturday. it is in no way realistic..seeing as we have won about 11 league games all season..why would that drastically change now.. average at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I think some people don't realise, midtable is actually quite hard to get out of. To drop into a relegation fight would take a prolonged period of particularly bad form. We have been fairly average for a month or so, but are unbeaten in the league this decade. We are in 15th. To get near the relegation zone would need 6 or 7 teams below us all to win this weekend. That's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I think some people don't realise, midtable is actually quite hard to get out of. To drop into a relegation fight would take a prolonged period of particularly bad form. We have been fairly average for a month or so, but are unbeaten in the league this decade. We are in 15th. To get near the relegation zone would need 6 or 7 teams below us all to win this weekend. That's just not going to happen. oh....did not realise you were an expert on league 1 matters.. I have seen first hand an utterly crap team with no money win this league...so excuse me whilst I dont agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Originally Posted by Matthew Le God Pardew won't drop Schneiderlin as he is one of Saints best players. There's quite a lot of quality there. I didn't want to drop Morgan, but 5 just doesn't go into 4 and I don't much fancy 4-5-1. I've looked at that line-up again, and out of the front 6 I can't think of any of them I'd drop for Morgan. Waigo - Need his pace. Hammond - Need his leadership. Lallana - In great form at the moment Puncheon - Yet to see him play, but I've heard people claim he is the best wide midfielder in League 1. Lambert - Well obviously Barnard - Haven't seen the best from him yet, but he has a great scoring record this season. I think you have hit the nail on the head there. Barnard I would only think about as a replacement for Lambert, to easy to handle for the opposition otherwise. Not that I think Barnard is a poor player, just I don't see them being a partnership, more an either or option. The only partner for Lambert that makes the attack look dangerous is Waigo, until Connolly returns. We are then really struggling to fit all our talent into a couple of slots. Although I believe Schneiderlin and Lallana are two very good players, I would definitely sacrifice one for the team, maybe both if things are not going well. I now this sounds daft after Lallana played so well against Pompey, but that is not always the case. For the moment he definitely deserves his start, but it would not surprise if it never worked out and a substitution is required. Our biggest problem is not having gifted individuals, more the selection problem of too many. Our problem is the best team, which does not look like being our best individuals. If these players cannot generate pressure you have to have a midfield that can gain control. Otherwise all those talented individuals are rendered useless without possession, including the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I'd like to see us line up like this ----------Davis------------ Semi - Jaidi - Fonte - Harding ----Hammond - Morgan------ Papa------Lallana-----Puncheon ---------Lambert------------ Gives us the option of switching to 442 very quickly, and bringing on Antonio to scare them ****less in the last 15 mins. Dunno what all the negativity is about - i fully expect us to get a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 oh....did not realise you were an expert on league 1 matters.. I have seen first hand an utterly crap team with no money win this league...so excuse me whilst I dont agree with you Meow. P.S. WTF are you on about? When did I mention money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 18 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I'd like to see us line up like this ----------Davis------------ Semi - Jaidi - Fonte - Harding ----Hammond - Morgan------ Papa------Lallana-----Puncheon ---------Lambert------------ Gives us the option of switching to 442 very quickly, and bringing on Antonio to scare them ****less in the last 15 mins. Dunno what all the negativity is about - i fully expect us to get a result. I'd put Thomas in instead of Semi - don't rate him based on what I saw at Millwall. Otherwise spot on, including Antonio as fresh legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I understand why you are pessimistic, and I think there is a chance that we might lose, but there's no reason for it to be the end of our season. We'll have to win pretty much every game apart from Leeds and Charlton at home and pick up another 40 or so points from the remaining 18 games. It's a stretch but it's still possible even after a defeat on Saturday. Sorry but our league season effectively ended when we did not win at Exeter and other results went against us. We have no realistic chance of making the play-offs. I was optimistic before Exeter but now it would need a miracle of Biblical proportions (or a few clubs going into Admin). We will do very well to finish 8th now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 There's quite a lot of quality there. I didn't want to drop Morgan, but 5 just doesn't go into 4 and I don't much fancy 4-5-1. I've looked at that line-up again, and out of the front 6 I can't think of any of them I'd drop for Morgan. Waigo - Need his pace. Hammond - Need his leadership. Lallana - In great form at the moment Puncheon - Yet to see him play, but I've heard people claim he is the best wide midfielder in League 1. Lambert - Well obviously Barnard - Haven't seen the best from him yet, but he has a great scoring record this season. A 3-5-2 opition maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 A 3-5-2 opition maybe? Not a chance. Pardew plays 451 and 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I'd like to see us line up like this ----------Davis------------ Semi - Jaidi - Fonte - Harding ----Hammond - Morgan------ Papa------Lallana-----Puncheon ---------Lambert------------ Gives us the option of switching to 442 very quickly, and bringing on Antonio to scare them ****less in the last 15 mins. Dunno what all the negativity is about - i fully expect us to get a result. Agreed though would rather Thomas instead of Semi and Antonio instead of papa and use papa at the end, seems to do well as a sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 (edited) Looking at them training in the manager interview on Saints Player it may be... Davis Otsemobor Fonte Seaborne Harding Lallana Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard Edited 18 February, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinglesaints Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Looking at them training in the manager interview on Saints Player it may be... Davis Otsemobor Fonte Seaborne Harding Lallana Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard Yes saw this too, but i though it was Jaidi in one of the coloured bibs instead of Seabourne. Lambert and Barnard both practising their finishing too so hopefully Barnard can score his first goals for us on Saturday. Lack of pace really from the front 6, excluding Puncheon, so i would expect a lot of pressure on Norwich players like we did against Pompey. Bring on Antonio and Papa after 70 mins for their pace to score a late goal. I think it will be yet another 2-2 draw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Looking at them training in the manager interview on Saints Player it may be... Davis Otsemobor Fonte Seaborne Harding Lallana Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard To be fair I would not have picked that but it looks really good.... Hope your right COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 I do rate papa alot but do feel he is a better sub coming on 60-70 min if that makes sence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiesaint20 Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Could anyone tell me how the Norwich pitch is looking? I think with all the skill that we possess in our starting line up we become undone on muddy, hopeless grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 papa scored 2 goals vs norwich last time we played them. He must start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Could anyone tell me how the Norwich pitch is looking? I think with all the skill that we possess in our starting line up we become undone on muddy, hopeless grounds. the norwich pitch always wins ''best in the league''...or it has in the last few years anyway. can't imagine there being any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Could anyone tell me how the Norwich pitch is looking? I think with all the skill that we possess in our starting line up we become undone on muddy, hopeless grounds. Norwich are the best footballing team I've seen this season by a mile. Playing on a cattlefield is going to disadvantage them easily as much as it would us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Looking at them training in the manager interview on Saints Player it may be... Davis Otsemobor Fonte Seaborne Harding Lallana Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard Or it may not But I agree that it will be very similar possibly Waigio instead of Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Meow. P.S. WTF are you on about? When did I mention money? you never..I did..plymouth won this league with freebies and wotton as their captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 you never..I did..plymouth won this league with freebies and wotton as their captain :-s You seem to have answered a completely seperate debate with your usual "we are the Man City of League 1" routine. The point I was making is that roughly half the teams in the League end up in a midtable possition. It is hard to get further up the table because the teams above you tend to win. It is also unlikely the teams below you will overtake because they tend to lose a lot. Some people can't seem to grasp this. If we win one game, promotion is back on the menu. If we lose we're in a relegation fight. We've scored 14 points more than the teams in the drop zone so far. They aren't likely to overtake us. We've scored 8 points less than the teams in the playoff spots and we're 18 behind. We aren't likely to get anywhere near them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Don't know why, but I've just got a good feeling about this one. Have a feeling Saints might sneak a 2-1 or 3-2 win but we'll see. Expect to see the following line-up: --------------------- Davis ------------------ Otsemobor ----- Jaidi ----- Fonte ----- Harding Antonio --- Hammond --- Schneiderlin --- Lallana ------------------ Puncheon ------------------ ------------------- Lambert ------------------- Subs: Bialkowski, Thomas, Seaborne, Wotton, Holmes, Waigo, Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 (edited) :-s You seem to have answered a completely seperate debate with your usual "we are the Man City of League 1" routine. The point I was making is that roughly half the teams in the League end up in a midtable possition. It is hard to get further up the table because the teams above you tend to win. It is also unlikely the teams below you will overtake because they tend to lose a lot. Some people can't seem to grasp this. If we win one game, promotion is back on the menu. If we lose we're in a relegation fight. We've scored 14 points more than the teams in the drop zone so far. They aren't likely to overtake us. We've scored 8 points less than the teams in the playoff spots and we're 18 behind. We aren't likely to get anywhere near them. you said (and I can quote) that people seem to not understand that it is hard to get past or out of mid table..then I said that is poppy**** as utterly dreadfull teams have and will win this league not reach the dizzy heights of 8th place..but become league 1 (or the equivalent) champions I have seen a team win this league and the style they played at times..and it was pure turd with a team that cost as much to assemble as barnard himself.. then again..what do I know about how good league 1 is.. Edited 18 February, 2010 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Looking at them training in the manager interview on Saints Player it may be... Davis Otsemobor Fonte Seaborne Harding Lallana Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard Good team. There arent many other players in the league who could get into this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 you said (and I can quote) that people seem to not understand that it is hard to get past or out of mid table..then I said that is poppy**** as utterly dreadfull teams have and will win this league not reach the dizzy heights of 8th place..but become league 1 (or the equivalent) champions I have seen a team win this league and the style they played at times..and it was pure turd with a team that cost as much to assemble as barnard himself.. then again..what do I know about how good league 1 is.. Sorry... what. We're 15th, 4 points clear of the drop zone with a 5 team buffer between us and 2 games in hand. Even if we lose a couple of games now, it is unlikely we will end up in the drop zone. At the same time we are 18 points off the playoff spots with 18 games left. That is a massive gap to overhaul in a short space of time. Very unlikely. What has any of that got to do with money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 18 February, 2010 Share Posted 18 February, 2010 Sorry... what. We're 15th, 4 points clear of the drop zone with a 5 team buffer between us and 2 games in hand. Even if we lose a couple of games now, it is unlikely we will end up in the drop zone. At the same time we are 18 points off the playoff spots with 18 games left. That is a massive gap to overhaul in a short space of time. Very unlikely. What has any of that got to do with money? He needs no reason ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 After going to exeter and going last week to the games, surely jaidi is better than seaborne atm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Davis Otsemobor Fonte Jaidi Harding Antonio Scheiderlin Hammond Lallana Waigo Lambert Why fix it if it ain't broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Davis Otsemobor Fonte Jaidi Harding Antonio Scheiderlin Hammond Lallana Waigo Lambert Why fix it if it ain't broke? That team has not played in the last three games at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 I'd like to see us line up like this ----------Davis------------ Semi - Jaidi - Fonte - Harding ----Hammond - Morgan------ Papa------Lallana-----Puncheon ---------Lambert------------ Gives us the option of switching to 442 very quickly, and bringing on Antonio to scare them ****less in the last 15 mins. Dunno what all the negativity is about - i fully expect us to get a result. I like the look of this lineup. Will this be as tough as Leeds away? It seems like its going to be difficult to get anything. I would take a point now, but it will be interesting to see how the new look side is getting on against one of the best sides in the league. I am going to predict 1-1, and wont be unhappy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 He needs no reason ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz If you have no points to add about the original point. Them please don't post. If you have a problem with me then use the PM service Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 February, 2010 Share Posted 19 February, 2010 Can't see us winning this one. I think we really miss Connolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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