What the predictor says.

[LVSaint]

What's going on with the continued omittance of Brighton vs Saints?

 

Anyway, we finish 4th this time around (by winning the above game in hand) and superior GD. Head tells me this won't happen...

In another season it would though, shame that 6th spot is being so effectively fought for by other teams.

Edited 2 March, 2010 by LVSaint

[TBone-Tone]

 

 

Huddersfield have a superior goal difference though, we'll need to correct that by thumping them 5-0 or something like that.

 

This has to be the best predication for a long time!!!

 

Well done Legod.

[TBone-Tone]

Oops forgot to mention Legod predicted the result on 24th Feb.

[kchkwong]

 

 

Huddersfield have a superior goal difference though, we'll need to correct that by thumping them 5-0 or something like that.

 

You are a legend.

[solentsaint]

 

 

Huddersfield have a superior goal difference though, we'll need to correct that by thumping them 5-0 or something like that.

 

amazing!

[Matthew Le God]

Oops forgot to mention "Legod Third coming" predicted the result on 24th Feb.

 

It wasn't really a prediction was it!?

 

He didn't say Saints would win 5-0, he said to help with goal difference a 5-0 win would help. There is a big difference between the two!

[Legod Third Coming]

Erm, guys, I seem to be getting a lot of credit here for a prediction that was actually given by "Window Cleaner" and has been wrongly attributed to me, and then again and so on...

 

I wish I had predicted 5-0... I did predict a win!

 

FWIW

 

My prediction which you can gladly congratulate me on at the appropriate time is that we will end up on 85 points and play Charlton at Wembley.

[St Landrew]

Erm, guys, I seem to be getting a lot of credit here for a prediction that was actually given by "Window Cleaner" and has been wrongly attributed to me, and then again and so on...

 

I wish I had predicted 5-0... I did predict a win!

 

FWIW

 

My prediction which you can gladly congratulate me on at the appropriate time is that we will end up on 85 points and play Charlton at Wembley.

 

Back in October I got 82 points, 4th place, but there were 2 Saints games still to play. Everyone else who could affect the playoffs had played their 46 games. I did the Predictor again last night and got 83 points with 1 game left, but 7th place. Once again, everyone else who could affect the outcome had played their 46 games. We had to win our final game to pip Swindon with 86 points.

 

Seeing as I saved the outcome, why not share it, I thought..?. Don't panic when you see it. Remember we've one game left to play, away to Brighton:

[stmusicdude]

Back in October I got 82 points, 4th place, but there were 2 Saints games still to play. Everyone else who could affect the playoffs had played their 46 games. I did the Predictor again last night and got 83 points with 1 game left, but 7th place. Once again, everyone else who could affect the outcome had played their 46 games. We had to win our final game to pip Swindon with 86 points.

 

Seeing as I saved the outcome, why not share it, I thought..?. Don't panic when you see it. Remember we've one game left to play, away to Brighton:

 

>> as I keep saying for huddersfield to get to 85 points their away form has to drastically improve.. WHY because away from home they DO struggle ( last 3 home games before us asside) they had only won 3 all season. Till recently & now are left with more away games than home to end season .. they will I doubt have more points than 79 in fact with MK Dons falling away the team to worry about is Millwall who look they might end with 83

[NickG]

We wont!

 

Why?

 

Lambert has some very average L1 players playing very very good.

 

AP has some very good L1 and CCC players playing very average.

 

bit better than average I would say.

[The9]

What's going on with the continued omittance of Brighton vs Saints?

 

Anyway, we finish 4th this time around (by winning the above game in hand) and superior GD. Head tells me this won't happen...

In another season it would though, shame that 6th spot is being so effectively fought for by other teams.

 

If you look at the BBC fixtures on the site, they have us v Bristol Rov postponed from April 1 (rearranged for April 15th-ish) and us at Brighton postponed from April 3 and they haven't put the April 1 date in instead (presumably because there was already a match on that date etc).

[LVSaint]

If you look at the BBC fixtures on the site, they have us v Bristol Rov postponed from April 1 (rearranged for April 15th-ish) and us at Brighton postponed from April 3 and they haven't put the April 1 date in instead (presumably because there was already a match on that date etc).

 

Well I hope they manage to cram another fixture in early April so I can be there to see it!

[St Landrew]

If you look at the BBC fixtures on the site, they have us v Bristol Rov postponed from April 1 (rearranged for April 15th-ish) and us at Brighton postponed from April 3 and they haven't put the April 1 date in instead (presumably because there was already a match on that date etc).

 

Hmm, now what can it be..? Curious..!?!

 

Ah... I know. A little matter of a game with Carlisle around that date perhaps..? :smt041

[St Landrew]

>> as I keep saying for huddersfield to get to 85 points their away form has to drastically improve.. WHY because away from home they DO struggle ( last 3 home games before us asside) they had only won 3 all season. Till recently & now are left with more away games than home to end season .. they will I doubt have more points than 79 in fact with MK Dons falling away the team to worry about is Millwall who look they might end with 83

 

Before being thrashed by Saints, Huddrsfield had won their last 3 away games.

[stmusicdude]

Before being thrashed by Saints, Huddrsfield had won their last 3 away games.

 

Indeed BUT look again, before that, they had only won 3 away all season ( this is around the time we started drawing instead of winning so not that long ago. & fact is they only winning bout 31% of away games & they have MORE away games left, a few more not just one or 2, than home games. Which is why I think millwall might be the team come april we actually need to get past, and why while there form looks good for 85 86 points I think they may only end up with 79, it wasnt a dig at anyone. sorry if thats how it looked.

[Scummer]

Back in October I got 82 points, 4th place, but there were 2 Saints games still to play. Everyone else who could affect the playoffs had played their 46 games. I did the Predictor again last night and got 83 points with 1 game left, but 7th place. Once again, everyone else who could affect the outcome had played their 46 games. We had to win our final game to pip Swindon with 86 points.

 

Seeing as I saved the outcome, why not share it, I thought..?. Don't panic when you see it. Remember we've one game left to play, away to Brighton:

 

I actually quite fancy Swindon to pip Leeds to the second automatic promotion spot. They are on a very good run.

 

It's quite funny really, that when we lost to Swindon at the beginning of the season everyone thought Swindon were going to be towards the bottom of the division and therefore it was a really poor result. In hindsight losing 1-0 away to one of the top teams isn't so bad.

[yorkiesaint]

St Landrew, do you really think we'll end up with a goal difference of +54?

[Windmill Arm 2]

Just finished the predictor thingy, i have us finishing in 7th place on 83 points thats 2 points off the play offs.

[saintmonkey1979]

St Landrew, do you really think we'll end up with a goal difference of +54?

 

Why not? As it stands, there are only 2 teams with more goals for than us and only 3 with a better defence. If we can keep scoring the way we have in the last 2 games or even if we're scoring 2 or 3 and not conceeding many, it is more than possible. Confidence is high and that can only breed good things. I hope so anyway :cool:

[St Landrew]

Indeed BUT look again, before that, they had only won 3 away all season ( this is around the time we started drawing instead of winning so not that long ago. & fact is they only winning bout 31% of away games & they have MORE away games left, a few more not just one or 2, than home games. Which is why I think millwall might be the team come april we actually need to get past, and why while there form looks good for 85 86 points I think they may only end up with 79, it wasnt a dig at anyone. sorry if thats how it looked.

 

St Landrew, do you really think we'll end up with a goal difference of +54?

 

stmusicdude - I'm aware they don't have a very good away record, but their manager Lee Clark, believes they've turned the corner on that front. We'll see against Gillingham. It could be that Saints have plunged them back into their away game problems, but one thing is true; there they are, in a very good position in the table, at present. You don't get there by not doing reasonably well.

 

yorkiesaint - When I did the Predictor again, I was putting down scores that reflect the goals Saints have been getting all season. Quite a few of the wins were 3-1s - let's face it, it is our popular score. But there were several 1-0s and 2-0s too. I don't think I put in a single 4-1 or 5-1, so that GD just comes from steadily outscoring the opposition. I don't think +54 is impossible, but probably unlikely. The issue isn't GD anyway. If we get to the playoffs, I'm pretty sure we'll have outscored everybody, or nearly everybody.

 

Funnily enough, a pundit on SKY reckons Rickie will score 40 goals by the end of the season alone. Frankly, I can't see him dong that from this standpoint. I can see +54 before that.

[RinNY]

Back in October I got 82 points, 4th place, but there were 2 Saints games still to play. Everyone else who could affect the playoffs had played their 46 games. I did the Predictor again last night and got 83 points with 1 game left, but 7th place. Once again, everyone else who could affect the outcome had played their 46 games. We had to win our final game to pip Swindon with 86 points.

 

Seeing as I saved the outcome, why not share it, I thought..?. Don't panic when you see it. Remember we've one game left to play, away to Brighton:

 

I'd take that outcome right now, but I suspect your predictor won't come out. Seems to me, and I think this is obvious, that we can get to 8th very easily; after that we have to catch 2 out of the 3 clubs 5th-7th: Swindon, Huddersfield, Millwall. Of those, Huddersfield actually look the easiest to catch. If we win the games in hand we have over them, we'll be within 8 points of them; and with a loss by them here, a draw there, that's not too hard to make up -- so long as we keep winning! We need to put together a real run of wins, obviously.

 

But catching Millwall is going to be harder: we have to make up 11 points (after we win the game in hand), and we don't get to play them to help out in one of those "6 pointers"; plus their form is pretty good!

 

Swindon will be even harder: we have no games in hand on them, so they are a genuine 16 points ahead of us. Even if we beat them when we play them, therefore, there'll still be 13 points to make up: that's a big ask in just 14 games!

 

Our best hope, I reckon, is to pass Huddersfield and then hope Millwall slip up just enough, while we keep winning, to catch them at the end, perhaps by goal difference. It's conceivable, but probably not likely, unfortunately. All those draws are going to keep us in L1 for another season ...

[St Landrew]

...unfortunately. All those draws are going to keep us in L1 for another season ...

 

Well this is it, isn't it. It's the thing certain people have been banging on about about for months, and it's true. You can't start the season with -10 points AND then give everyone a form start by taking 10 games to wipe out the penalty.

 

I know it's being said so regularly that people are well and truly p!ssed off to read it again, but it's true. A two-week preseason, and turning jaded players around, who you can see aren't up to the job, without additional major help, plus -10 points IS too much to reasonably ask.

 

And I don't give a monkey's that Leeds got to the playoffs with a -15 penalty, either. They ended up with 76 points anyway, and that won't get you into the playoffs this season.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

All this will prove to be totally pointless when we dont beat Tranmere on Saturday.

[St Landrew]

All this will prove to be totally pointless when we dont beat Tranmere on Saturday.

 

No doubt several people will have an alternative discussion about our imminent relegation.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

No doubt several people will have an alternative discussion about our imminent relegation.

 

There is an in between you know.

 

Too many points short with too few games. Its Mickey Fialkas fault i tell thee

[Baj]

I backed Saints to win the JPT at 13/2 and have now cleared a tidy sum on the day by backing Carlisle at 13/8... Punters will know this feeling well. It's an orchid feeling (rare and beautiful...)

Ill think of you when its 1-1 after 90 minutes \\:D/

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Ill think of you when its 1-1 after 90 minutes \\:D/

 

The odds are to lift the trophy

 

Nice try though

[Griffo]

I think it will be very close but it depends on us beating Leeds, Charlton and Swindon at home and winning at places like MK, Gillingham and Bristol.

[St Landrew]

The odds are to lift the trophy

 

Nice try though

 

For betting houses, the score after 90 minutes + injury time is usually the result they go on, for some silly reason.

 

I don't suppose for a moment it is so that they can retain more money from betting.

 

EDIT: From William Hill's Betting Rules.

 

8. CORRECT SCORES

 

a) Bets must predict the score at the end of normal time.

 

b) Extra time does not count.

[St Landrew]

There is an in between you know.

 

Too many points short with too few games. Its Mickey Fialkas fault i tell thee

 

But that kind of reasoning doesn't fall into the fanatical supporters idea that footbal teams are either brilliant or crap. You're talking about grey areas, and that is something we are programmed to ignore, because it requires thought.

[Window Cleaner]

I think it will be very close but it depends on us beating Leeds, Charlton and Swindon at home and winning at places like MK, Gillingham and Bristol.

 

It doesn't depend on us much at all, we just need to win as many games as we can.

Our faint chance of getting into the play-offs will really depend on the attitude of Norwich,Charlton,Swindon,Leeds and Colchester against Millwall and Huddersfield. If they see us as a threat in the play-offs (and at least 3 of them will) then they might let Millwall and Huddersfield have an easy ride when they play them.I had a look at the fixtures yesterday and it could be that if those 5 teams play the game against our "rivals" for the last play off place then 78/79 points could be enough, bearing in mind that there is a Huddersfield-Millwall game towards the end of the season.

[St Landrew]

It doesn't depend on us much at all, we just need to win as many games as we can.

Our faint chance of getting into the play-offs will really depend on the attitude of Norwich,Charlton,Swindon,Leeds and Colchester against Millwall and Huddersfield. If they see us as a threat in the play-offs (and at least 3 of them will) then they might let Millwall and Huddersfield have an easy ride when they play them. I had a look at the fixtures yesterday and it could be that if those 5 teams play the game against our "rivals" for the last play off place then 78/79 points could be enough, bearing in mind that there is a Huddersfield-Millwall game towards the end of the season.

 

That would require an understanding, between the clubs, and the conspiracy would get out into the public domain. All the clubs within the top 6 are too close to each other for one or two to go light on the lesser teams, so that they can provide a buffer against Saints. I don't see that reasoning at all.

[NickG]

so can we go up in 2nd place if we keep winning 5-1/5-0?

[Window Cleaner]

That would require an understanding, between the clubs, and the conspiracy would get out into the public domain. All the clubs within the top 6 are too close to each other for one or two to go light on the lesser teams, so that they can provide a buffer against Saints. I don't see that reasoning at all.

 

 

We shall see, these things happen and they hardly ever reach the public domain unless money is involved.Simple instructions by a manager or coach to "think of the next game" are fairly ordinary occurences.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

For betting houses, the score after 90 minutes + injury time is usually the result they go on, for some silly reason.

 

I don't suppose for a moment it is so that they can retain more money from betting.

 

EDIT: From William Hill's Betting Rules.

 

8. CORRECT SCORES

 

a) Bets must predict the score at the end of normal time.

 

b) Extra time does not count.

 

Well, that depends whether you are betting on a cup final or not....

 

Copy paste from my betting account......

 

Southampton

Johnstone's Paint Trophy - Outright

11/5

 

I believe that the outright bit means winners. Not just after 90 mins.

[St Landrew]

Well, that depends whether you are betting on a cup final or not....

 

Copy paste from my betting account......

 

Southampton

Johnstone's Paint Trophy - Outright

11/5

 

I believe that the outright bit means winners. Not just after 90 mins.

 

Double checked your rules..?

[John Smith]

I think we'll know a lot more after this week end, with Saints away to Tranmere, Huddersfield away to the Gills and millwall away to Walsall.

 

IF and that's a big IF, saints win and the other two lose, my hopes will be more positive, if we only draw, I don;t think we will do enough to pip the other two, even if they drop points.

 

We'll see...

[stmusicdude]

stmusicdude - I'm aware they don't have a very good away record, but their manager Lee Clark, believes they've turned the corner on that front. We'll see against Gillingham. It could be that Saints have plunged them back into their away game problems, but one thing is true; there they are, in a very good position in the table, at present. You don't get there by not doing reasonably well.

 

yorkiesaint - When I did the Predictor again, I was putting down scores that reflect the goals Saints have been getting all season. Quite a few of the wins were 3-1s - let's face it, it is our popular score. But there were several 1-0s and 2-0s too. I don't think I put in a single 4-1 or 5-1, so that GD just comes from steadily outscoring the opposition. I don't think +54 is impossible, but probably unlikely. The issue isn't GD anyway. If we get to the playoffs, I'm pretty sure we'll have outscored everybody, or nearly everybody.

 

Funnily enough, a pundit on SKY reckons Rickie will score 40 goals by the end of the season alone. Frankly, I can't see him dong that from this standpoint. I can see +54 before that.

 

>>

Oh I agree with you there, I just think that it has more twists & shocks to come & that Millwall MIGHT be the team we are really chassing?

 

Fantastic either way from huddersfield this year I think, It deffo a step to far this season for us, but what excitment while theres still a air of maybe about it

[Griffo]

I would offer anyone on here odds of 1/100 of us making the play-offs! I think it's too far out of our reach.

[John Smith]

I would offer anyone on here odds of 1/100 of us making the play-offs! I think it's too far out of our reach.

 

So, I give you a pound and if we reach the play-offs, you give me 1 pound a penny back? So, whst you're effectively saying is that you;re almost certain we'll make the play offs.

[Griffo]

So, I give you a pound and if we reach the play-offs, you give me 1 pound a penny back? So, whst you're effectively saying is that you;re almost certain we'll make the play offs.

 

100/1 then. I don't really understand betting

[St Landrew]

100/1 then. I don't really understand betting

 

Careful..!

 

If now anyone takes up your bet, they can proffer £1 to your £100.

[Legod Third Coming]

Ill think of you when its 1-1 after 90 minutes \\:D/

 

It matters not - I have backed them to WIN THE TROPHY OUTRIGHT!!!

For I am a seasoned punter who understands such things....

 

Although there are some dimwits on here who will insist we have drawn even if we win the cup on penalties...

[Legod Third Coming]

so can we go up in 2nd place if we keep winning 5-1/5-0?

 

If we win our game in hand we are 20 behind Leeds... I think automatic, while mathematically possible, is a touch beyond us. Briding a 20 point gap in 15 games would require Leeds to spontaneously combust!!

[Legod Third Coming]

100/1 then. I don't really understand betting

 

I will have £50 with you at 100/1.

[St Landrew]

100/1 then. I don't really understand betting

 

Careful..!

 

If now anyone takes up your bet, they can proffer £1 to your £100.

 

I will have £50 with you at 100/1.

 

 

I told you..!

 

I'm a witness, LGTC.

[Legod Third Coming]

I told you..!

 

I'm a witness, LGTC.

 

Well £5000 would certainly pay for next year's Season Tickets...

[inoffthepost]

FWIW I've done the predictor and, with Saints winning all their games, (I know what you're all thinking), we'll pip Millwall by one point.

 

With the run that they're on though it'll only take them to win one that I've got them drawing and that'll it.

 

As a Saint through and through my heart says we can do it but my head says unlikely.

[Saintandy666]

Just did the predictor with saints winning every game and every other game won by the team higher in the table. Yes, I know this is unlikely to happen... anyways, saints got into playoffs 5th place with 86 points.

[dubsaint]

Hate to say it , but i reckon on 7th place finish