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I have done the Predictor right through to the end of the season and its true, we do make the play-off's on the last day of the season when we beat Southend and Millwall draw with Swindon. I would not have thought it possible (and it probably isn't!).

 

Seriously though, we have to watch Millwall in 6th place and they have a much tougher set of fixtures than us and we have two games in hand so may be, just may be ... but then again, maybe not?

SFC Forever

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Exactly, in order for any of this to be relevant, Pardew needs to decide his team, and STICK with it. I'd suggest Saturday's with Puncheon and Fonte in.

 

I would go with that. only poss doubt being jaidi and fitnes. but he has had two games and should be raring to go.

doddisalegend

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We wont!

 

Why?

 

Lambert has some very average L1 players playing very very good.

 

AP has some very good L1 and CCC players playing very average.

 

What do you base that on then? what makes Norwhich players more average than ours? Their league postion doesn't lie its not their manager out their scoring the goals, defending etc it's the Norwhich players.

 

I love the way some saints fans think we have a team of Glacticos just becuase we spent a couple of million. Lambert is the only player we can say is the best in league one becuase he is the leagues highest scorer. With the rest of the team it's just opinion

 

For example some norwhich players

 

Defender Gary Doherty has scored five goals this season and used to play for the spuds is he better than Jhadi?

 

Midfielder Wes Hoolahan is a Irish international scored 13 goals and has 15 asssits is he better than Lallanna?

 

Midifielder Stephen Hughes is a Scottish iternational has played for Rangers won the Scottish preimership and played in the championship he hasn't scored this year so does that make him better than Morgan?

 

Right back Russell Martian captained Peterbrough to automatic promtion last season is he better than John Ostsemboor? well pretty likely really as he replaced him.

 

Honestly people just form opinions on other teams with no knowledge of the other team at all. Yes we have spent money but that doesn't mean our players are better it just means we spent more money on them. Until all our new players are playing in a settled team on a regular basis we wont Know how good they are or aren't. It's not like saints have a history of buying crap players for to much money is it ?

John B

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What do you base that on then? what makes Norwhich players more average than ours? Their league postion doesn't lie its not their manager out their scoring the goals, defending etc it's the Norwhich players.

 

I love the way some saints fans think we have a team of Glacticos just becuase we spent a couple of million. Lambert is the only player we can say is the best in league one becuase he is the leagues highest scorer. With the rest of the team it's just opinion

 

For example some norwhich players

 

Defender Gary Doherty has scored five goals this season and used to play for the spuds is he better than Jhadi?

 

Midfielder Wes Hoolahan is a Irish international scored 13 goals and has 15 asssits is he better than Lallanna?

 

Midifielder Stephen Hughes is a Scottish iternational has played for Rangers won the Scottish preimership and played in the championship he hasn't scored this year so does that make him better than Morgan?

 

Right back Russell Martian captained Peterbrough to automatic promtion last season is he better than John Ostsemboor? well pretty likely really as he replaced him.

 

Honestly people just form opinions on other teams with no knowledge of the other team at all. Yes we have spent money but that doesn't mean our players are better it just means we spent more money on them. Until all our new players are playing in a settled team on a regular basis we wont Know how good they are or aren't. It's not like saints have a history of buying crap players for to much money is it ?

 

 

Yes you are right but the Poster was pointing out that Norwich are getting better results with players that cost less than SFC which I think is true.

 

 

He was suggesting that our team should be performing better in the League.

 

In theory he is right but in practice I am not so sure

broncoboy

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I dont think we will make the playoffs we have never got on to the kind of winnning run that lifts the team and allows them to win every match.

 

We stutter and stop and start. When have we ever really taken a side apart

 

For AP it will have to be next season

doddisalegend

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I dont think we will make the playoffs we have never got on to the kind of winnning run that lifts the team and allows them to win every match.

 

We stutter and stop and start. When have we ever really taken a side apart

 

For AP it will have to be next season

 

Southend (away)

Mk Dons (twice at home)

Gillingham (at home)

 

Ok we haven't one any six-or seven nils but those sort of games come once every few seasons. We've played some good stuff this year, asking us to not only win matches but win them while playing like Brazil is asking to much for a league one side. Looking at the table we've have lost a similar number of games to most of the top sides the difference is we have had to many draws if AP can turn the draws into wins next season it's all good. If he can't then he's probably out of a job but I think we have to give him the chance.

John B

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Funnily enough I had Rovers to win that based on Charltons recent wobble- you'll see where I have them finishing above. Today I have Huddersfield to win, Leeds to win and Colchester to win. The scores are immaterial to me as I gave most wins as 1-0 for ease unless I had a real feel for a thumping! Actually that's not totally true, I reflected our goal scoring in our results..like I sat it's all hocum but my main point was that critical period 13-23 March where we go from 12 to 6 points off the play offs with the way the fixtures fall.

 

I think your 75% record is very good so far I wonder what your record will be at the end of the season.

 

By the way i think you have been hard on Swindon

 

We used to do a Sweepstake at work for European and World Cup Finals forecasting the scores - Even getting the right results never mind the scores was hard enough

Charlie Wayman

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I have been doing the old BBC Predictor.

 

I have been as accurate to form as I absolutely can be - ie. taking current league position and recent (last eight game form into account).

 

I can't list all the results here but this is what happens.

 

If we win each of our games (but draw away at Norwich) on the 13th March, having beaten Leeds, we are twelve points off the plays offs...

 

So it's game up.

 

Or is it... because just ten days later, because of the way the fixtures work, if we win our games (again assuming all other teams play to form) we are just six points off the play-offs.

 

With eight games to go.

 

And our run in is pretty straightforward you know.... have a look.

 

Now, I know this is all hocum BUT I am in blinding form on my predictions at the moment. I am 'in form' on the horses and my football bets - I backed Saints to win the JPT at 13/2 and have now cleared a tidy sum on the day by backing Carlisle at 13/8... ;) Punters will know this feeling well. It's an orchid feeling (rare and beautiful...)

 

And I have been as genuine to form as I think it is possible to be - not fluke results, Norwich winning most of their games, Leeds and Charlton likewise, teams above beating teams below them in the league, unless away where score draws might out if the teams are closely matched.

 

My point is this. The table looks bad for the next month until 13th March, but just ten days later we're in the hunt.

 

So just don't give up the faith until then... :)

 

Seriously, try it.

 

(NB. we do have to win all games bar Norwich, but even a draw with Leeds and we are still only 8 off with 8 to go).

 

 

This is all tosh as we need to win 16 of the last 18 and pray that Millwall or Huddersfield don't do any better than they are now. Even at their current points per game rate we'll need 81 points at least to get to 6th and as I said if either of thse teams comes into form it's over...

 

So, it's over now isn't it, would you bet your house on 16 from 18? Of course not, delusional you may be for all things red & white but you probably ain't stupid.

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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This is all tosh as we need to win 16 of the last 18 and pray that Millwall or Huddersfield don't do any better than they are now. Even at their current points per game rate we'll need 81 points at least to get to 6th and as I said if either of thse teams comes into form it's over...

 

So, it's over now isn't it, would you bet your house on 16 from 18? Of course not, delusional you may be for all things red & white but you probably ain't stupid.

 

Oh do cheer up. And keep up...

 

It's all hocum and we have to win our games - both of those I said above...

 

If we do, then it is totally in our hands based on current form (as I said above) I haven't allowed for a single bottom club to beat the top six/ten - and only the occasional draw.

 

Have a I bet my house on it? No.

 

Thankfully, I backed us at 18/1 for promotion in September (and 13/2 to win the JPT which having now also backed Carlisle at 13/8 has cleared a tidy sum thanks for asking :) )

 

Strange things happen in football.

WATERSIDEIFASAINT

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The next 8 games will determine if whether we could make a late season charge for the play offs.

 

If you look at our last 10 games we could easily win the lot of them and you would certainly fancy us winning at least 8 of those games with Hartlepool,Leyton Orient,Charlton,Oldham,Carlisle and Southend at Home and Brighton,Bristol Rovers,Yeovil and Gillingham Away

 

So to the next 8 games : Norwich(a),Wycombe(a),Walsall(h),Huddersfield(h),Tranmere(a),Leeds(h),Swindon(h) and MK Dons(a).

 

Some tough games but I fancy our chances against anyone at home and we would certainly be very disappointed not to beat Wycombe and Tranmere away from home.Then we have already beaten MK Dons away in the cup and for some strange reason I fancy our chances at Norwich.

 

So when you look in depth at our fixtures things are still possible.We probably won't make it to the play offs but with those fixtures we certainly could!!

St Lej

St Lej

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Oh do cheer up. And keep up...

 

It's all hocum and we have to win our games - both of those I said above...

 

If we do, then it is totally in our hands based on current form (as I said above) I haven't allowed for a single bottom club to beat the top six/ten - and only the occasional draw.

 

Have a I bet my house on it? No.

 

Thankfully, I backed us at 18/1 for promotion in September (and 13/2 to win the JPT which having now also backed Carlisle at 13/8 has cleared a tidy sum thanks for asking :) )

 

Strange things happen in football.

 

You are my hero

NickG

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We CAN win at Norwich ...COYR!!

 

We wont!

 

Why?

 

Lambert has some very average L1 players playing very very good.

 

AP has some very good L1 and CCC players playing very average.

 

is there a problem with your theory?

brmbrm

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I rarely make mistakes.........

 

difficult to predict a Norwich off day and 10 men handicap though ;)

 

hahahahah! You clearly ALWAYS misestimate your own capabilites, so by that measure you always make mistakes.

 

Plus hindsight proves you wrong.

modern matron

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Just done the predictor. With us winning 13 and only losing 2 we scrape in in 6th on 78 points! This year will be an unusually high points total as the top 9 are all getting results so forget it this year.......

John B

John B

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Just done the predictor. With us winning 13 and only losing 2 we scrape in in 6th on 78 points! This year will be an unusually high points total as the top 9 are all getting results so forget it this year.......

 

I dont disagree with your 78 points

 

but I feel that the other promotion rivals will get more

Legod Third Coming

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Had us down to draw at Carrow Road and win last night. Sadly all other results went as predicted with Millwall, Swindon and Huddersfield winning. So, still on track but a win last night would have helped... Promotion still not out of reach but we are not making this easy with performances like last night!!

John B

John B

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Millwall, Swindon and Huddersfield winning. QUOTE]

 

Thats the problem and has been all the season some of theses teams could easily get over 80 points

St Lej

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They will, so will we. 85. It's enough on goal difference. ;)

 

I doubt that even you seriously believe we will get 85 points surely. So we are miraculously gonna start winning all of our away games when we've so far only won of our first 16? Including 3 very average recent performances at brentford , Exeter and last night. Be interested to know how this form is suddenly going to pick up to the level we need it to. Eg pretty much zero slip ups allowed from now on

Legod Third Coming

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Huddersfield have a superior goal difference though, we'll need to correct that by thumping them 5-0 or something like that.

 

We don't catch Huddersfield on my model... ;) We catch someone else... and I didn't have Charlton in freefall either!!!

 

Many a slip twixt cup and lip my friend.

 

Our season is not over despite what the gloom mongers believe.

 

Sure, last night was the worst game of football ever played in the history of football, bar none.

 

But we expected to get beat Saturday really if we're honest.

 

So here we are, 19 points (two games in hand) off a team we have to play.

 

So really we could be ten points behind them on level terms with the same 13/14 games to play.

 

It's not easy. It's not over.

 

And anyway, games like last night remind you why you started supporting and what we have to look forward to.

 

When we are creaming teams like Liverpool, I will turn to my pals and laugh about that night we played at the Somme...

vince

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When we are creaming teams like Liverpool

 

Didn't we used to do that fairly regularly???? ;):D

 

I like your optimism LGTC, but it will have to be all our Christmas's at once from now until the end of the season. Hope Santa brings me a Ricky Hat Trick on Saturday, then.......

St Landrew

St Landrew

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When we are creaming teams like Liverpool

 

Didn't we used to do that fairly regularly???? ;):D

 

I like your optimism LGTC, but it will have to be all our Christmas's at once from now until the end of the season. Hope Santa brings me a Ricky Hat Trick on Saturday, then.......

Funnily enough, I think Saints have some bloody good results against Liverpool. For example, we've beaten them at Anfield quite a few times.
Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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Funnily enough, I think Saints have some bloody good reults against Liverpool. We've beaten them at Anfield quite a few times.

 

Quite right, I neglected the word AGAIN from my post... ;)

 

Anyway, these days I dream of beating Stoke City....

NickG

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I have been doing the old BBC Predictor.

 

I have been as accurate to form as I absolutely can be - ie. taking current league position and recent (last eight game form into account).

 

I can't list all the results here but this is what happens.

 

If we win each of our games (but draw away at Norwich) on the 13th March, having beaten Leeds, we are twelve points off the plays offs...

 

So it's game up.

 

Or is it... because just ten days later, because of the way the fixtures work, if we win our games (again assuming all other teams play to form) we are just six points off the play-offs.

 

With eight games to go.

 

And our run in is pretty straightforward you know.... have a look.

 

Now, I know this is all hocum BUT I am in blinding form on my predictions at the moment. I am 'in form' on the horses and my football bets - I backed Saints to win the JPT at 13/2 and have now cleared a tidy sum on the day by backing Carlisle at 13/8... ;) Punters will know this feeling well. It's an orchid feeling (rare and beautiful...)

 

And I have been as genuine to form as I think it is possible to be - not fluke results, Norwich winning most of their games, Leeds and Charlton likewise, teams above beating teams below them in the league, unless away where score draws might out if the teams are closely matched.

 

My point is this. The table looks bad for the next month until 13th March, but just ten days later we're in the hunt.

 

So just don't give up the faith until then... :)

 

Seriously, try it.

 

(NB. we do have to win all games bar Norwich, but even a draw with Leeds and we are still only 8 off with 8 to go).

 

we ahead or behind schedule, with all other results?

Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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we ahead or behind schedule, with all other results?

 

We are exactly where I predicted - 4 points from the last two games.

 

The only team who are not playing to form are Charlton.

 

We can't make any headway until after 13th March because fixtures just do not go our way until then.

 

By 13th March I expect us to be 12 points off Huddersfield.

 

By 23rd it should be 6 points and 8 games to go... ;)

Avenue Saint

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We don't catch Huddersfield on my model... ;) We catch someone else... and I didn't have Charlton in freefall either!!!

 

Many a slip twixt cup and lip my friend.

 

Our season is not over despite what the gloom mongers believe.

 

Sure, last night was the worst game of football ever played in the history of football, bar none.

 

But we expected to get beat Saturday really if we're honest.

 

So here we are, 19 points (two games in hand) off a team we have to play.

 

So really we could be ten points behind them on level terms with the same 13/14 games to play.

 

It's not easy. It's not over.

 

And anyway, games like last night remind you why you started supporting and what we have to look forward to.

 

When we are creaming teams like Liverpool, I will turn to my pals and laugh about that night we played at the Somme...

 

 

Finished 1 pont off 6th with game in hand! Put it this way, given Charlton's run in, although probable they'll finish in playoffs, it is actually possible they could drop to 7th! I think if saints do what they need to they might just still squeeze 6th ahead of Huddersfiled or CHARLTON.

Legod Third Coming

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I know I could be making this up but I'm not, predicted Leeds 1 Huddersfield 1 and other games have gone in our favour that were not predicted (Swindon Draw, Colchester Defeat). Anyway, we're on track nicely to finish 6th according to my predictions - I even had this one down as 4-1... still can't get everything right!!! ;)

croydonsaint

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The only way we will reach the play offs is a total change of form by us, Huddersfield or Swindon. Last 12 games, surely a safe barometre of the next 12 games forms shows one point behind Huddersfield and 4 behind Swindon. Assuming we win our 2 games in hand and beat Huddersfield on tuesday we still have to improve by 8 points against Huddersfield.

 

Or another way, if we win all our remaining games we will be on 86 points. If Huddersfield maintain the same form as last 12 games they will be on 81 points. I dont think we even need to trouble ourselves thinking of the pooasbility of winning promotion this year, sadly

stmusicdude

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Unless Huddersfield improve away form drastically they will get about 79 points based on who they have played and away results

 

ALL this talk about our dreadfull away form we only won one less than they have!

I actually think this year is a step to far .. BUT it may come down to the very last day & southend IF Huddersfield form dosent get better :)

MongoNeil

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I keep doing the predictor with different levels of optimism/pessimism and it's Swindon I reckon who'll drop out of the playoffs. I also make it that we'll play Leeds in the play-offs ;-)

St Landrew

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Well, that's the goal difference sorted. By my reckoning it will be plus 40 by season end.

 

Anyone want to bet against us ending up 6th now? ;)

 

Well I did the Predictor back in late October, during our run of 3-1 wins, and Saints didn't hit the top 6 until the end of March, according to the results I was getting. I had us winning at home, sometimes drawing away, but occasionally winning too. I even threw in the odd loss. We ended up with 82 points and 4th spot.

 

So, from way back then I thought we might just make the playoffs, but in the last 6 weeks I've changed my mind from being optimistic about the playoffs to being realistic and that we'll probably miss them. But you know what..? I think we may be able to do it after all. It's a hell of a long shot, but it just might happen. 14 points behind, with a game in hand, and between now and the end of the season, we are to play the other 5 of the current top 6. 3 at home: Leeds, Swindon, Charlton, and 2 away: MK Dons and Bristol Rovers.

 

It's do-able.

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Johnny Bognor

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It's a hell of a long shot, but it just might happen. 14 points behind, with a game in hand, and between now and the end of the season, we are to play the other 5 of the current top 6. 3 at home: Leeds, Swindon, Charlton, and 2 away: MK Dons and Bristol Rovers.

 

It's do-able.

 

...and bearing in mind that many of these sides will also be playing each other, points will be dropped. It's do-able but we'll need to win nearly every game coupled with a few results going our way.

S-Clarke

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I still think it's still a little too much to do, but it's going to be an interesting end to the season either way!

 

I'm just going to enjoy the remaining games - no pressure, playoffs are and were always a bonus.

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