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Sour Mash

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Wrong there Stu. I live up in the Midlands and have mates who are fans of clubs up North and in London and none of them think that Saints/Pompey is anything special at all. Not even on their radars. They see it as a bit of a soft southern affair compared to Villa/Brum, Liverpool/Everton, Man U/Man C or Newcastle/Sunderland

 

Your mates sound as clueless as you.

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The last two occasions that we have been east we were locked in after the game on what was nothing more than an open air toilet. Not just this game but any other game that has a large away support we get a message on the screen, home supporters can not use north car park. Keep the buggers in for about 15 - 30 mins, if the away supporters were kept in for 30 mins Saturday as we would have been at their place IMO nothing would have kicked off.

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The last two occasions that we have been east we were locked in after the game on what was nothing more than an open air toilet. Not just this game but any other game that has a large away support we get a message on the screen, home supporters can not use north car park. Keep the buggers in for about 15 - 30 mins, if the away supporters were kept in for 30 mins Saturday as we would have been at their place IMO nothing would have kicked off.

 

exactly should be the same against Leeds as well

the ob dropped a glanger

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The last two occasions that we have been east we were locked in after the game on what was nothing more than an open air toilet. Not just this game but any other game that has a large away support we get a message on the screen, home supporters can not use north car park. Keep the buggers in for about 15 - 30 mins, if the away supporters were kept in for 30 mins Saturday as we would have been at their place IMO nothing would have kicked off.

 

If you didn't know any better you could think the police engineer these things just to make use of those nice camcorders they have.

 

Strange how when they know Saints are much more active they let everyone have a good old knees up.

 

As you say, surely easier to keep them in and disperse everyone else. Anyone hanging around is obviously then fair game to get arrested.

 

In this instance I don't think it would have made much difference to be fair as there were always going to be large numbers of Saints around.

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I was at the King Alfred when it first kicked off with the idiot skate. Started sining PUP thinking no one would react. When two people jumped over the wall about 40 followed and he got a bit of a beating by the looks of things. 'twas an idiot though, deserved it.

 

The congregation by the footbridge (as seen in the youtube video) was a result of people who had ran from the Alfred towards the bloke. Just a load of goading when the skates went past, few coins thrown. One Saints fan got his leg chewed quite badly by a police dog.

 

At the Freeborn garage it did get a bit lairy and I thought Saints fans were going to break through the fence at one points but the batons came out. After allsorts of objects were thrown (rocks, planks of wood, metal signs.....mainly from Saints fans) the police horses swiftly got rid of everyone in the garage car park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_x405qC8g

 

Why has this video been removed????

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If you didn't know any better you could think the police engineer these things just to make use of those nice camcorders they have.

 

Strangely I had the same conversation with a mate from work who knows some Chelsea old boys. If you think letting Pompey and Saints out at the same time was mad, they did the same thing with Chelsea and Cardiff!

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Wrong there Stu. I live up in the Midlands and have mates who are fans of clubs up North and in London and none of them think that Saints/Pompey is anything special at all. Not even on their radars. They see it as a bit of a soft southern affair compared to Villa/Brum, Liverpool/Everton, Man U/Man C or Newcastle/Sunderland

 

You could do with watching Inside Out South when it comes on the iPlayer... you might well notice then that the hatred running between Southampton and P*rtsmouth is not the majority, like some of the deluded people on here think...

 

Southampton and P*mpey is one of the fiercest rivalries in the country. FACT

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You could do with watching Inside Out South when it comes on the iPlayer... you might well notice then that the hatred running between Southampton and P*rtsmouth is not the majority, like some of the deluded people on here think...

 

Southampton and P*mpey is one of the fiercest rivalries in the country. FACT

 

What I was responding to Stu was your comment that the rivalry "was known across the country". That's where I think you're wrong. I don't disagree that locally in Hampshire it is very fierce and the hatred runs deep but across the country no-one gives two ****s about us.

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What I was responding to Stu was your comment that the rivalry "was known across the country". That's where I think you're wrong. I don't disagree that locally in Hampshire it is very fierce and the hatred runs deep but across the country no-one gives two ****s about us.

 

In the same way that nobody gives a f*ck down here about Newcastle v Sunderland or Celtic v Rangers etc... it doesn't stop everyone in the country knowing that our rivalry is one of the fiercest and bitter out of them all.

 

Why do you think almost every team sings about P*mpey at SMS? Surely they would need to know about our rivalry to sing it?

 

Why does almost every single Saints v P*mpey game get chosen to be screened on Sky?

 

For pure built in hatred, it is right up there with Millwall and West Ham, Leeds and Manchester United and Cardiff and Swansea. That programme on BBC1 just a minute ago confirmed that.

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You could do with watching Inside Out South when it comes on the iPlayer... you might well notice then that the hatred running between Southampton and P*rtsmouth is not the majority, like some of the deluded people on here think...

 

Southampton and P*mpey is one of the fiercest rivalries in the country. FACT

 

As I matter of interest do you know any Pompey supporters because I know a couple but I dont hate them.

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In the same way that nobody gives a f*ck down here about Newcastle v Sunderland or Celtic v Rangers etc... it doesn't stop everyone in the country knowing that our rivalry is one of the fiercest and bitter out of them all.

 

Why do you think almost every team sings about P*mpey at SMS? Surely they would need to know about our rivalry to sing it?

 

Why does almost every single Saints v P*mpey game get chosen to be screened on Sky?

 

For pure built in hatred, it is right up there with Millwall and West Ham, Leeds and Manchester United and Cardiff and Swansea. That programme on BBC1 just a minute ago confirmed that.

 

It looked a Load of boll0cks.

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and??? so suddenly Cardiff v anyone is higher profile than saints v skates??? don't think so.

 

the difference is mate, cardiff actually have a hardcore mob where as we dont. also there were 250 coppers on duty at our game. luton v oxford had 200 and some riot police the other week, and thats just a random non league game... also millwall west ham had 1250 police at their derby last year... u get my drift!? our rivalry isnt actually that big a deal because we are generally 'nice family clubs' ;) and its a good thing bud !

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cos they p1ssed on the bobby moore statue at wembley the other year! there were two tears up between cardiff in london. randomly qpr joined in the action...

 

Every team has a pop at cardiff when they visit london, it's a tradition.

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In the same way that nobody gives a f*ck down here about Newcastle v Sunderland or Celtic v Rangers etc... it doesn't stop everyone in the country knowing that our rivalry is one of the fiercest and bitter out of them all.

 

Why do you think almost every team sings about P*mpey at SMS? Surely they would need to know about our rivalry to sing it?

 

Why does almost every single Saints v P*mpey game get chosen to be screened on Sky?

 

For pure built in hatred, it is right up there with Millwall and West Ham, Leeds and Manchester United and Cardiff and Swansea. That programme on BBC1 just a minute ago confirmed that.

 

 

It's not up there with Celtic v Rangers. You're deluding yourself.

 

It's "up there" with Derby v Forest, Burley v Blackburn, Preston v Blackpool, Wolves v West Brom, Luton v Watford, Cardiff v Swansea, Norwich v Ipswich, Stoke v Port Vale. Of local, not national interest.

 

What your opinion of the Blackburn v Burnley derby is precisely what people in Lancashire think about Saints v Pompey. "Oh, yeah, forgot they don't like each other". I know because I've had that conversation with people all week.

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It's not up there with Celtic v Rangers. You're deluding yourself.

 

It's "up there" with Derby v Forest, Burley v Blackburn, Preston v Blackpool, Wolves v West Brom, Luton v Watford, Cardiff v Swansea, Norwich v Ipswich, Stoke v Port Vale. Of local, not national interest.

 

What your opinion of the Blackburn v Burnley derby is precisely what people in Lancashire think about Saints v Pompey. "Oh, yeah, forgot they don't like each other". I know because I've had that conversation with people all week.

 

Erm... I didn't compare our rivalry to the Old Firm Rivalry... I spent almost a year in Belfast pre-good Friday agreement, so I am fully aware where that rivalry stems from and that it is religion based.

 

You can draw one comparison between the two though... and that is the two rivalries are not one that has been invented since football... the rivalries date back to before football was invented.

 

Yes, yes I know you will spin the yarn about some people watching both teams post-war... it didn't stop the two cities hating each other though.

 

The Hampshire Derby has more history than 95% of the derbies. Whenever there is a survey of the top derbies, most fierce/bitter etc in the country, you can guarantee that Southampton v Portsmouth will always be on the list.

 

You are not the only one who speaks to people all over the country on a daily basis by the way, sorry to dissapoint you.

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the difference is mate, cardiff actually have a hardcore mob where as we dont. also there were 250 coppers on duty at our game. luton v oxford had 200 and some riot police the other week, and thats just a random non league game... also millwall west ham had 1250 police at their derby last year... u get my drift!? our rivalry isnt actually that big a deal because we are generally 'nice family clubs' ;) and its a good thing bud !

 

 

February 10, 2010

 

 

Disorder At Luton Town V Oxford United

 

TWO people were arrested last night after disorder broke out in connection with last night’s match at Luton Town Football Club.

 

The trouble appeared to start between supporters of Luton Town in the stand after a minority of fans became abusive towards Luton Town’s own stewards as the team beat Oxford 2-1.

 

While stewards would normally be responsible for security inside Kenilworth Road, they were forced to call for police support as the situation turned violent and stewards were attacked in the stands as they attempted to keep safety access routes clear.

 

Four officers received minor injuries as they tried to bring the situation under control, however by 10pm the ground was nearly empty and although the town centre was busy with some of the 8000 fans staying behind in pubs after the game, minor outbreaks of disorder were effectively dealt with by the policing operation.

 

Chief Superintendant Mike Colbourne, divisional commander for Luton, who was on duty at the time, said: “I am disappointed that an exciting sporting occasion, with a good crowd, was marred by these ugly scenes. Fortunately the outcome was not too serious in terms of injuries to my officers or other people.

 

“After some issues at the reverse fixture we had put on a lot of extra officers to police this game, including police horses. Although there were one or two outbreaks of disorder in town during the afternoon, we were pleased with the way it had gone up until fans started fighting amongst themselves in the home end during the match.

 

“We had a robust but fair policing presence in the town centre and outside the ground with in excess of 100 officers involved in the operation. When the police were required inside the ground in support of the club’s own stewards we dealt with that disorder and then moved to escort the Oxford fans away from the ground safely,” he said. “We’ll now be looking to see if any further arrests are necessary or possible.”

 

Anyone who can help identify those involved in this incident is urged to contact Bedfordshire Police, in confidence, on 01234 841212, or text 07786 200011, or contact Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.

 

http://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/onlinenews/2010/february/100210_disorder_luton_town.html

 

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Watched the youtube footage of all the apparent 'violence', laughable. Handbags. Let's try not to be tough guys when you clearly aren't. The rivalry is passionate, but nothing of any note really took place.

 

Agree. If that video is anything to go by, this is all a storm in a tea cup. Plenty of opportunity to get at the each other, but everyone was happy to stand and shout.

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February 10, 2010

 

 

in excess of 100 officers involved in the operation.

 

http://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/onlinenews/2010/february/100210_disorder_luton_town.html

 

:smt033

 

anyway this aint the point. the point is we arent a troublesome club! there is only a few people here that actually think we are. all i saw saturday was small mobs of youth giving the big un in a standoff then geting run by the police... why bother?

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One of the reasons the rivalry is so fierce is the fact we have rarely played eachother over the years. We have rarely been in the same division, and have not played eachother that many times in the cups. Celtic v rangers play eachother so many times a season it's not a novelty. This was the 1st match in 5 years so the scores that need settling have time to fester.

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Sour Mash

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It's not up there with Celtic v Rangers. You're deluding yourself.

 

It's "up there" with Derby v Forest, Burley v Blackburn, Preston v Blackpool, Wolves v West Brom, Luton v Watford, Cardiff v Swansea, Norwich v Ipswich, Stoke v Port Vale. Of local, not national interest.

 

What your opinion of the Blackburn v Burnley derby is precisely what people in Lancashire think about Saints v Pompey. "Oh, yeah, forgot they don't like each other". I know because I've had that conversation with people all week.

 

Out of the ones you've mentioned there, I would only have the highlighted ones on a par with our derby. Everyone I spoke to for the last few weeks, people supporting all sorts of different clubs, were well aware of how big our game was without me having to even mention it.

 

(Goes without saying that the Old Firm is head and shoulders above anything else).

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Out of the ones you've mentioned there, I would only have the highlighted ones on a par with our derby. Everyone I spoke to for the last few weeks, people supporting all sorts of different clubs, were well aware of how big our game was without me having to even mention it.

 

(Goes without saying that the Old Firm is head and shoulders above anything else).

 

so luton watford dont have a rivalry then?! u forget 2002 obviously? saints have never had anything like this happen with pompey, and the reason why is because we arent mongs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOTaR9eMlg

 

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Care to give me examples of other derbies which have more history... when I say history, I mean pure dislike for the other town as well as the football team.

cardiff/swansea is pretty nasty

the old West Ham/Millwall

 

even when watching Rangers/Celtic when in glasgow can be very intimidating...

 

but saints/pompey is deffo up there in terms of hatred...

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I love how people suddenly feel emboldened when they have the OB in front of them. Saturday was a total nonevent - arrived at Soton central at 11.50am - felt like Xmas morning. Didn't hear anything till i got to the Premier Inn. The handbags were similarly isolated and contained to the garages afterwards. Never any sense that things might spill out of control - hardly surprising since both sets of fans seemed more than happy to eat out of the OBs hand.

 

Certainly didn't add to the allure or image of the rivalry if thats what elements wanted.

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so luton watford dont have a rivalry then?! u forget 2002 obviously? saints have never had anything like this happen with pompey, and the reason why is because we arent mongs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOTaR9eMlg

 

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00:56 that bloke in the blue that got knocked out, was the first bloke that threw the first punch.

 

I take it you are from Luton as you love them so much?

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As hardly anyone outside Hampshire is barely aware such a fierce rivalry exists, I doubt if he did either until recently.

 

That's quite clearly complete ******, anyone who knows anything about football knows that there is a fierce rivalry between Saints and Pompey. Because of the size of the clubs it's never going to be the biggest but the nature of the two cities and the rareness of the fixture does make it fiercer than many.

 

I didn't see any trouble on Saturday though, all this reporting by the BBC is just sensationalist nonsense, a few things were thrown thats all. The only person injured was by a police dog.

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Fact is if people know about the rivalry -its less because people know about the historical enmity between the two cities than their knowledge of the 6.57 and the bulls*t mythology that's been peddled to sell a few books.

 

In other words, we have the blue few to thank for elevating the rivalry in the rest of the country's consciousness!

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Sour Mash

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so luton watford dont have a rivalry then?! u forget 2002 obviously? saints have never had anything like this happen with pompey, and the reason why is because we arent mongs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOTaR9eMlg

 

edit, short version

 

I didn't say Luton and Watford didn't have a rivalry. Learn to read before stretching your very limited intelligence by posting on a public forum.

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