TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 251 posts and you are becoming SO predictable. How about answering some of these important questions? And you kick others for not having any substances to their posts... Hello mate, hey keep up, I did answer Mr Predictable in a very polite manner...was waiting for one of two types of response a) Continued dialogue on the subject matter. b) Insults and b/s...like I said predictable. FAF - read him like a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Such bigoted comments about Norway! About time Brad, suprised you could refrain this long. Do you know how much hatred and negativity shortens and affects quality of life. Open your heart Brad, be positive, don't sit around fretting all the time...like I've said before when I come to town next I'll either look you up and buy you a Starbucks, or you can meet me at a game and I'll get you a beverage. When you meet people face-to-face, humor comes in and can see how futile hate is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 lol! is this rant seriously still running?? Although i see its gone ever so slightly off topic! Have you "forgiven Pardew" yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 lol! is this rant seriously still running?? Although i see its gone ever so slightly off topic! Have you "forgiven Pardew" yet? Kinda Mike...but shhh. I think it was you that made a good point about that earlier and a replied refering to Big Lawrie...(we were never gonna 'forgive' him for getting us relegated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Great point...have to say I agree in the majority of cases, however, for the most part, not in our's. The pompers game as a point in case...we were all at the wrong end, trying to desperately to recover as they broke and punished us. Tim, not going to insult you, thats just silly, but I am still perplexed by your attitude to the Pompey game which you have repeated here again. You seem to have a problem that we were chasing the game when we were behind. Do you really think we should have sat back and tried to defend a 1-2 defeat. If so then really its not worth continuing to have a sensible debate. If it was a League game and goal difference might have some impact then perhaps you would have a point. But in a cup game there is no logic behind sitting back and trying to avoid conceding more goals. The problem you seme to have is that you are embarrased because Pompey ended up putting 4 goals past us. You need to get over this, the issue was not Pompey, this was a cup game and we were trying to win. If this had been Arsenal or Manure would you have this problem? No. Of course it hurts to have lost 4-1 to Pompey, but take a look at the bigger picture, we were already losing, and had nothing more to lose and everything to gain by going all out for an equaliser. Personally at 1-2 or eve 1-3 the right tactic would have been to take another defender off and put on another striker or midfielder and go all out. Why didn't KD go up for the corners near the end and try to head in a goal. Playing defensively in a cup game to try to save face is not a tactic that any true football team would entertain in my humble opinion. Lets hope we continue tonight in the same vain as Saturday and no late goals are conceded that have any bearing on the result. Now we have the best available team (barring injuries) I expect to see the problem that you have being addressed, and the team being professional enough to shut out our opponents when we have an advantage. Peace and love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Tim, not going to insult you, thats just silly, but I am still perplexed by your attitude to the Pompey game which you have repeated here again. You seem to have a problem that we were chasing the game when we were behind. Do you really think we should have sat back and tried to defend a 1-2 defeat. If so then really its not worth continuing to have a sensible debate. If it was a League game and goal difference might have some impact then perhaps you would have a point. But in a cup game there is no logic behind sitting back and trying to avoid conceding more goals. The problem you seme to have is that you are embarrased because Pompey ended up putting 4 goals past us. You need to get over this, the issue was not Pompey, this was a cup game and we were trying to win. If this had been Arsenal or Manure would you have this problem? No. Of course it hurts to have lost 4-1 to Pompey, but take a look at the bigger picture, we were already losing, and had nothing more to lose and everything to gain by going all out for an equaliser. Personally at 1-2 or eve 1-3 the right tactic would have been to take another defender off and put on another striker or midfielder and go all out. Why didn't KD go up for the corners near the end and try to head in a goal. Playing defensively in a cup game to try to save face is not a tactic that any true football team would entertain in my humble opinion. Lets hope we continue tonight in the same vain as Saturday and no late goals are conceded that have any bearing on the result. Now we have the best available team (barring injuries) I expect to see the problem that you have being addressed, and the team being professional enough to shut out our opponents when we have an advantage. Peace and love First of all, genuine thanks. This should not be about insulting one another, come over onto the Ugly if you want to do that...this forum should maybe be for more Saints related football stuff and not petty banter. Also there is a massive difference between 'action' and 'reaction'...yet it always seems we focus on reaction. I see what you are saying and no, I do not think we should be defending a '1-2' deficit, that does not make too much sense. We were 1-1, weren't we. At that stage we went hell for leather and had our pants taken down (at least) three more times. I feel and yes I can see lots do not, that we let in too many goals after the hour mark, in fact a disproportioante amount. We have had what? 40 games so far, I feel it is still occuring. I posted very early in the season that I felt this was a concern, then followed it up that it seemed and continuing problem as winter decended. It would have been a really negative thing to post 'prior' to the pompee game that I really felt in my heart the only way that we would lose this game would be to goals in the last 25 or so minutes. That is the way I felt and look what happened not once, but four times. We seemed so unaware of our vulnerability....we were naive and we got spanked by the one team most true Saints least want to lose too, let alone 1-4 and 1-4 at our place also. Maybe I over-reacted, I didn't insult any posters and was just sharing my opinions. If I was AP and I am nowhere near his expertise and we are 1-0 up on the hour tonight, I would batten down the hatches...but hey, if he'd have done that at Norwich we'd have only won 0-1....it's just my opinion based on what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 LMAO...you are SO predictable and how long did it take you to think that up...keep it coming son, gives you a purpose I guess. So, yet again, you refuse to deal with the points I made and instead opt for your usual (and also very predictable) response. All you have to do is admit that you're talking nonsense and the thread will die, but instead you persist and not only that but you have the audacity to suggest that I am predictable and others are rude when all you have done is repeat the same old rubbish and been rude to others. Youre a very arrogant man. 251 posts and you are becoming SO predictable. How about answering some of these important questions? And you kick others for not having any substances to their posts... I'd like to +1 that. Hello mate, hey keep up, I did answer Mr Predictable in a very polite manner...was waiting for one of two types of response a) Continued dialogue on the subject matter. b) Insults and b/s...like I said predictable. FAF - read him like a book. I cannot see any insults in the post you are referring to. Maybe you can point them out? Or, as I predict, ignore this question as it is another one that you will be unable to answer. About time Brad, suprised you could refrain this long. Do you know how much hatred and negativity shortens and affects quality of life. Open your heart Brad, be positive, don't sit around fretting all the time...like I've said before when I come to town next I'll either look you up and buy you a Starbucks, or you can meet me at a game and I'll get you a beverage. When you meet people face-to-face, humor comes in and can see how futile hate is. Hahaha! The highlighted bit of that post is unreal coming from a man who started a thread about never forgiving Pardew because we lost a game against a premiership team! You are negative. You're the one fretting about late goals. You're the one who will never forgive AP. Basically, you have no sensible points to make so have resorted to attacking others for supposed disrespectful remarks made about Ron Davies (irrelevant to this thread, and there is even doubt that Deano6 made any disrespectful comments) and dealing with all pertinent points by dismissing them and claiming people aren't having a sensible dialgoue with you. It's bloody hard to have a sensible dialogue with someone who has ended up posting like a 16 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 So, yet again, you refuse to deal with the points I made and instead opt for your usual (and also very predictable) response. All you have to do is admit that you're talking nonsense and the thread will die, but instead you persist and not only that but you have the audacity to suggest that I am predictable and others are rude when all you have done is repeat the same old rubbish and been rude to others. Youre a very arrogant man. I'd like to +1 that. I cannot see any insults in the post you are referring to. Maybe you can point them out? Or, as I predict, ignore this question as it is another one that you will be unable to answer. Hahaha! The highlighted bit of that post is unreal coming from a man who started a thread about never forgiving Pardew because we lost a game against a premiership team! You are negative. You're the one fretting about late goals. You're the one who will never forgive AP. Basically, you have no sensible points to make so have resorted to attacking others for supposed disrespectful remarks made about Ron Davies (irrelevant to this thread, and there is even doubt that Deano6 made any disrespectful comments) and dealing with all pertinent points by dismissing them and claiming people aren't having a sensible dialgoue with you. It's bloody hard to have a sensible dialogue with someone who has ended up posting like a 16 year old. Hurts doesn't it. Keep 'em coming my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Making Wiltshire Saint appear as the reasonable adult on a main board thread is quite an achievement, if you don't mind me saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Making Wiltshire Saint appear as the reasonable adult on a main board thread is quite an achievement, if you don't mind me saying. Never paid attention to him mate, guess all this stalking and obsession tends to make you aware of someone though, some may believe it to be flattering - some sad. Each to their own I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 This thread is getting to the point where if it doesn't return to the original topic, I think it's time to call a halt. You guys could carry on via PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Some of them don't have that facility, StL. That would be a little mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 23 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2010 This thread is getting to the point where if it doesn't return to the original topic, I think it's time to call a halt. You guys could carry on via PMs. Mate, I am not 'quitting', or anything like that. Please note responses to Vectis etc...however you have a very valid point. This is becoming non-constructive, negative and hateful. We are Saints and even with differing opinions should have one common goal and that is for the success of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 I see what you are saying and no, I do not think we should be defending a '1-2' deficit, that does not make too much sense. We were 1-1, weren't we. At that stage we went hell for leather and had our pants taken down (at least) three more times. I didn't see it that way. We stunned Pompey by equalising and went for the win when we got back to 1-1, and frankly we looked at that stage like we could achieve that. Lets face it anyway a draw was no good to anyone, it was a case of **** or bust. I admired AP's attitiude against Pompey, he was going for the win which at that point we would have richly deserved, because we were by far the better side up to then. OK, they got another goal, and then we had a goal disallowed, this was a great cup match end-to-end exciting stuff with both teams going for a result. It didn't turn out quite right for us, and eventually we threw the kitchen sink at it by taking off Perry. Going hell for leather in a cup game when you have a genuine chance to win is the right thing to do, in fact I think we should have done more. Still football's about opinions. Like almost everyone else there is nothing about the Pompey game that concerns me at all, and I am very satisfied with what AP has done with the new signings, the evidence from the norwich game is that AP has indeed addressed the problem area. We'll see a bit more tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Some of them don't have that facility, StL. That would be a little mean. I'm not closing the thread. I'm advising posters that if they can't return to the original subject matter, perhaps this thread has gone as far as it can. In which case, they are free to open another outside of the main forum. EDIT: OK, Vectis is on-track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Having observed the progress of this thread, the irony is that Timothy is the one who keeps taking it off topic by reverting to pathetic attempts at put-downs rather than answering the perfectly reasonable points made to him. Repeatedly saying 'FACT' and attempting to belittle other posters rather than address their real facts just makes him look like a child. Timothy, I think it is time you said 'sorry', don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 In fact the only game with no late goals in the premiership today was Man City vs Liverpool. I think all teams can learn a lot from these two and there really is no excuse for all games not ending 0-0 from now on. Once again Wiltshire Saint has proven that his knowledge of football is truely mind-blowing. I have no doubt that Pardew reads this forum and probably will take a lot from tonight's result. Long may our current good form continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 23 February, 2010 Share Posted 23 February, 2010 Once again Wiltshire Saint has proven that his knowledge of football is truely mind-blowing. I have no doubt that Pardew reads this forum and probably will take a lot from tonight's result. Long may our current good form continue. Thank you jawillwill. It's nice to get some positive and polite feedback for a change (even one of the mods on this thread has been rude about me). I came across the idea of neither scoring or conceding when reading this thread, so some credit has to go to TiT. I'm certain that it is the way forward. I don't know whether AP reads this forum or not. I think that one of the backroom staff does, at least, and I'm sure AP has been made aware of the "conceding a goal" phenomena that TiT has rightly pointed out to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 24 February, 2010 Share Posted 24 February, 2010 I have to admit though, when we got it to 1-1 vs pompey I said to my mate "let's keep it tight now and maybe nick it with a set piece/corner". Then we played into their hands and went all guns blazing. We were playing well enough as it was, and creating chances so we didn't have to change our shape or game plan. Once it went 2-1 it was pretty much game over. Sorry to try and bring the thread back to topic. carry on as you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 24 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2010 I have to admit though, when we got it to 1-1 vs pompey I said to my mate "let's keep it tight now and maybe nick it with a set piece/corner". Then we played into their hands and went all guns blazing. We were playing well enough as it was, and creating chances so we didn't have to change our shape or game plan. Once it went 2-1 it was pretty much game over. Sorry to try and bring the thread back to topic. carry on as you were Well put, we were thinking 'thank Christ, we've got a second chance'...but like you said at 1-2 it was most likely over. We threw caution to the wind at 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 February, 2010 Share Posted 25 February, 2010 Sensible questions: You may like to think you're popualr TiT, but to call yourself a "saints legend" is a little egocentric, even by your standards. Yet you have time to collate all the times of goals conceded by saints. All Nick did was go to a bookies website.....far easier than what you did. So how do we "strategise" for the conceding of late goals? Why don't other teams "strategise" for such eventualities? You are still seemingly convinced that this is a Saints issue, when all the evidence suggest it is part and parcel of football. Players keep playing, keep attacking till the final whistle and score goals....it happens all the time. I do feel like this is a little like banging your head against a brick wall. If conceding a goal at anytime is bad, why are you focussed on goals conceded at the end of matches? Why not at the beginning? Nick has told you that most of our conceded goals are NOT in that last perios, but at other times. Why don't you make a fuss about that time period? As for your point about not giving goals away late on against Portsmouth....it makes no sense. It barely warrants a reply. What if I said "We should be wary about conceding goals because if we do we are more likely to lose. In fact, if we are to concede goals, my straegy would be to score more than we concede". Would that make me a footballing expert? The last point you make - you don't care about the prem leagie fixtures is complete arse. Those teams have the top defenders and coaches in this country yet still concede late goals, so how are Saints going to stop conceding if they can't? And your reply? LMAO...you are SO predictable and how long did it take you to think that up...keep it coming son, gives you a purpose I guess. This is your polite answer to sensible questions? Guess you dont have an answer then. And still waiting to hear what your "strategising" plan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 25 February, 2010 Share Posted 25 February, 2010 Sensible questions: And your reply? This is your polite answer to sensible questions? Guess you dont have an answer then. And still waiting to hear what your "strategising" plan is. Careful, criticising TiT is an insult to Ron Davies. Is that what you want to do? Insult Ron Davies, a saints legend? TiT has helped him you know, although he doesn't like to talk about it much and only mentions him on relevant threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 25 February, 2010 Share Posted 25 February, 2010 Careful, criticising TiT is an insult to Ron Davies. Is that what you want to do? Insult Ron Davies, a saints legend? TiT has helped him you know, although he doesn't like to talk about it much and only mentions him on relevant threads. Alright, now just stop it and play nice. Otherwise it's slapped legs all round. Don't make me come in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 25 February, 2010 Share Posted 25 February, 2010 Can't we just let this thread die. All it is doing is pandering to Timsie's already massive ego and desire to be the centre of attention. After a loss to our local rivals a bloke approaching 60 years of age behaved like an angry teenager, let's just leave it at that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 February, 2010 Share Posted 25 February, 2010 After a loss to our local rivals a bloke approaching 60 years of age behaved like an angry teenager,.... there's probably rehab centres in Southern California for that sort of problem. Wonder what treatment you get in the sex addict places,Asian hookers 24/7 perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 25 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 February, 2010 Can't we just let this thread die. All it is doing is pandering to Timsie's already massive ego and desire to be the centre of attention. After a loss to our local rivals a bloke approaching 60 years of age behaved like an angry teenager, let's just leave it at that..... Come on Brad, without my existence your life is a shallow and empty one huh, that's why you ran from the more manly banter on the Ugly...'coz every single poster even hillbilly_blue, Oi_Oi and the other blue posters cried with laughter over your obsession with me, the way you follow me. FAF Try making one...just one post in any way whatsover relevant to Saints instead of y'hero, as much as you keep feeding my ego (or whatever) it's pretty sad really, fantasizing over someone...their personal details...their thought process...their likes and dislikes. Then again Brad, you could just ask the Mods to make a TT Forum, or I could start a Twitter site site and you could 'follow' me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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