66, 75, 82 And 85

[SNSUN]

We had defensive players on the bench that perhaps should've been used, but I don't necessarily blame Pardew. Portsmouth's attackers were of a different class, and we were outplayed. Even making changes and shutting up shop wouldn't necessarily have guaranteed us a win or draw. Our Centre backs have a combined age of, what, 70?, and the legs went. Pardew addressed this defensive problem with the signing of Seaborne, Fonte and Semi. Give them time, they will come good, and have been unfortunate with the league being sidetracked. Now we're out of the FA Cup, with a final date at Wembley guaranteed in the JPT, we can truly concentrate on the league games with 100% concentration.

[derry]

A lot of the late goals come about because we stop passing and going forward and try to tighten up by defending deeper. This hands the initiative to our opponents and puts us under pressure.

 

That, together with bringing 10 players back to defend corners, means with our forwards milling around not properly picking up, our big men don't have the room to attack the cross in the crowded penalty area and players steal in for free headers as the forwards aren't marking.

 

It would be better to leave 2 or even 3 up on the halfway line which would leave probably only 3/4 opponents to attack the cross. Then if it is cleared allows quick counter attacks a la Pompey yesterday rather than coming straight back into the box.

[OldNick]

A lot of the late goals come about because we stop passing and going forward and try to tighten up by defending deeper. This hands the initiative to our opponents and puts us under pressure.

 

That, together with bringing 10 players back to defend corners, means with our forwards milling around not properly picking up, our big men don't have the room to attack the cross in the crowded penalty area and players steal in for free headers as the forwards aren't marking.

 

It would be better to leave 2 or even 3 up on the halfway line which would leave probably only 3/4 opponents to attack the cross. Then if it is cleared allows quick counter attacks a la Pompey yesterday rather than coming straight back into the box.

I would suggest that the goals came from the fact that they brought on a winger who had pace and skill. They had an option, that gave Belhadj freedom to play.He was not on the game until the last 15 minutes.

[Ponty]

Oh noes, Palace let in a late equaliser against Villa and Brum got through with a last minute goal too. Late goals are part of football.

[BARCELONASAINT]

Oh noes, Palace let in a late equaliser against Villa and Brum got through with a last minute goal too. Late goals are part of football.

 

At last the voice of reason instead of the melodromatic clap trap that started this thread!!

 

Anyone would think Pardew was a child murder after TT ridiculous outburst stating he "could never forgive him"

 

For gods sake some people need to get a bit of perspective

Maybe the sun out there is too strong....i suggest sitting in the shade more!!

[JackFrost]

I watched it, I am watching again, I have seen numerous replays and guess what? We still fall foul to not one but four LATE sucker punches, what about you?

 

If you were our chairman we'd get through 20 managers a season

[Saint_clark]

We had defensive players on the bench that perhaps should've been used,

 

At 2-1 down? Pardew would have been crucified on here if he'd done that.

[Thedelldays]

At 2-1 down? Pardew would have been crucified on here if he'd done that.

agree....with perry and Jaidi at the back..it was only a matter of time before their pace got to us..

 

Jaidi was superb yesterday IMO..and should always start when he is fit...

[derry]

I would suggest that the goals came from the fact that they brought on a winger who had pace and skill. They had an option, that gave Belhadj freedom to play.He was not on the game until the last 15 minutes.

 

I wasn't talking about yesterday.

[kpturner]

Or are we not allowed now to have a differing opinion to TijuanaTim because of his godlike status?

:confused: In whose eyes?! Certainly not mine.

[Deano6]

What this you and percy have some sort of anti-American agenda, fair enough takes all sorts, even bigots.

 

I live in America and I also think you're a tit.

 

Many more goals are scored in the second half of games than the first. There are many (fairly obvious) reasons for this. Get over it. We are not special.

[TijuanaTim]

I live in America and I also think you're a tit.

 

Many more goals are scored in the second half of games than the first. There are many (fairly obvious) reasons for this. Get over it. We are not special.

 

Oh yeah...you're the one that likes to mock Ron Davies and I'm the t!t? Reeeally FAF

[St_Tel49]

I am sorry, but I for one will never forgive Pardew for this!! And before any of you think I'm being too harsh, are you going to tell me we couldn't have won, or at least not lost that (and many other) game(s).

 

The writing was on the wall as early as September - it was still there with goals in this particular period of games later and it's still glaringly apparent now. This is an absolutely massive strategic/tactical problem and the problem falls firmly at the feet of the manager!!

 

This is 100% unnacceptable and 100% avoidable - okay we, in FACT, should I say 'he' did not learn and we let in soft, late goal to say, Millwall or whatever, but this was pompee FFS

 

Does he not realise the enormity of the situation and the consequence to the egos, psyches, pride etc to us - Southampton people. Haven't we eaten enough excrement already?

 

We have had what? About 40 games this year to learn to shut up shop at the hour mark. These late goals are the singlemost important reason or factor that we will not be PROMOTED, that we were ELIMINATED from the League Cup, KNOCKED OUT of the FA Cup and may lose in the JPT!! If you don't believe me then do some research.

 

Your support has been beyond belief, our new ownership is the best, we have a powerful, good footballing set of players...and a coaching staff that need to get a clue!!

 

Yet again we had a team by the balls and could not squeeze.

 

Enough already, must do better. Don't look at the skates - Don't look at the refs - Don't even look at the players - Look firmly at Pardew and maybe Wilkens etc. The buck stops there. If you're feeling as bad as I am right now, sorry Alan, but you're the only reason why!!

 

Feeling better now?

[Wiltshire Saint]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

Yes, conceding goals in the 50th minute can be classified as conceding a late goal can't it? The whole point you are making is insane. It makes no sense.

 

Thank you, well, firstly I ain't on the coaching staff, so don't know the players on a daily basis.

 

Really? You surprise me. Maybe AP will give you a call after reading some of your suggestions?

 

What we have is a major problem conceding goals from about 65 minutes onwards...so you talk about on the training ground and in the player 'debriefing' (I assume AP debriefs the team). After 40 games you should be discovering why it happens...stamina, lack of confidence, over-zealous attacking, lack of awareness.

 

If the players are not fit enough you do a WGS. If they are not confident enough then youpositively reinforce them and if they are not aware then damn well make them aware...I think thw problem is probably and quite unbelievably AP is not aware!!

 

This is revolutionary! I can see now why you were the coach of a Hants Div 1 team at such an early age. I take it you eradicated the late goal (50 mins onwards) at your club?

 

 

Do we have a problem conceding goals through the first hour of games, simple question?

 

Do we have a problem conceding goals after the first hour?

 

Is conceding goals at any time not a problem? Your question is not a simple one, it's a stupid one.

 

There is very little on this board that people agree on, but your idiotic post seems to have unified the majority of the membership. Maybe you should have a think about why that's the case - have a "debrief" with yourself to make yourself more aware.

[Charlie Wayman]

I have never posted on here in the 8 years I've been reading this site however......

 

Tim, whilst I admire what you are doing for Ron Davies, your views on Saints and tactics are absolutely pathetic! You are one of the main reasons I don't listen to Radio Solent as you phone in and talk absolute dross when you haven't been to the game.

 

We didn't want a replay today, we played about as well as we could and were beaten by a Premier League side. That's the reason we lost.

 

Stop being so over dramatic with your knee jerk reactions. You may want to listen to peoples opinions who go to the games every week, for a balanced view.

 

I go to every game and Tim has got it more or less spot-on. We are a 70 min side by which time the old 'uns are finished and the young 'uns are knackered. That is more or less all there is to say about this year's team.

 

All the comments about Lambert seem fair, just what is AP up to? The one free kick he didn't take on Saturday ended up being headed into the net by RL. AP most definitely has got that wrong as indeed he has leaving James on the bench and playing Antonio & Waigo together.

 

So AP is far from perfect and Saints are far from the finished article.

 

As far as the rest of this season is concerned, forget it! Our season ends at Wembley. The league is now dead.

 

Sixth placed team will now need at least 80 points to be sure of the play-offs.

 

We have 34 points with 18 games to go; we need to collect another 46 points minimum from 54 which means we have to win 16 of 18 and even then might miss out!

 

Ask yourself if you'd wager even £100 on that one let alone your house?

 

Just relax, look forward to next year, go shopping of a Saturday afternoon for the sake of peace and harmony if you have to and watch the situations vacant board for a new football manager.

 

At least we won't need to listen to Dave Merrington anymore this year so there is a silver lining....

[JustMike]

I go to every game and Tim has got it more or less spot-on. We are a 70 min side by which time the old 'uns are finished and the young 'uns are knackered. That is more or less all there is to say about this year's team.

 

All the comments about Lambert seem fair, just what is AP up to? The one free kick he didn't take on Saturday ended up being headed into the net by RL. AP most definitely has got that wrong as indeed he has leaving James on the bench and playing Antonio & Waigo together.

 

So AP is far from perfect and Saints are far from the finished article.

 

As far as the rest of this season is concerned, forget it! Our season ends at Wembley. The league is now dead.

 

Sixth placed team will now need at least 80 points to be sure of the play-offs.

 

We have 34 points with 18 games to go; we need to collect another 46 points minimum from 54 which means we have to win 16 of 18 and even then might miss out!

 

Ask yourself if you'd wager even £100 on that one let alone your house?

 

Just relax, look forward to next year, go shopping of a Saturday afternoon for the sake of peace and harmony if you have to and watch the situations vacant board for a new football manager.

 

At least we won't need to listen to Dave Merrington anymore this year so there is a silver lining....

 

couple of points..

 

1) People have been screaming for papa and antonio to play together, its happened and you moan. Playing James instead of who? He is not a rightback and i would rather have morgan and hammond in midfield.

 

2) Lambert has been taking the free kicks because the delivery has been terrible from everyone else that has had a go.

[Crispypie]

wqell, i for one would have truly p***ed off if we did sit back and lock up shop. It was one of the most entertaining games I have ever been to, the crowd were magic and it wasnt until the last goal that I felt we were done. If we just sat back and defended it would have been a disaster.

 

Its football, I love the saints, I hate P**Pey, late goals make the game what it is. Boring sit back defences games are rubbish.

 

Bring on the Championship when we can play them with our first choice team!

[dune]

I think we can all agree that Saints management and players need get their arses into gear and deliver the goods now.

 

Next season MUST be a promotion season.

[SNSUN]

At 2-1 down? Pardew would have been crucified on here if he'd done that.

 

True, attack is the best form of defence, but I do think he could've sacrificed Antonio for James. James is a decent passer of the ball, but through his stints at right back he also has a defensive side to his game. Antonio had a good first half I thought but faded in the second. (As he did at MK Dons in midweek)

[TijuanaTim]

Yes, conceding goals in the 50th minute can be classified as conceding a late goal can't it? The whole point you are making is insane. It makes no sense.

 

 

 

Really? You surprise me. Maybe AP will give you a call after reading some of your suggestions?

 

 

 

This is revolutionary! I can see now why you were the coach of a Hants Div 1 team at such an early age. I take it you eradicated the late goal (50 mins onwards) at your club?

 

 

 

 

Is conceding goals at any time not a problem? Your question is not a simple one, it's a stupid one.

 

There is very little on this board that people agree on, but your idiotic post seems to have unified the majority of the membership. Maybe you should have a think about why that's the case - have a "debrief" with yourself to make yourself more aware.

 

Wilt...you're a stalker end FACT!! You only have three posts because you're too tight to join, so you multi-load and then still use every post obsessing over me...rant about me my friend, go ahead, but there is not one other poster on here that values a single thing you say....now wait until tomorrow - search the site with a fine tooth comb and then spew venom against anything I post again...you must be proud!!

[Ash]

Wilt...you're a stalker end FACT!! You only have three posts because you're too tight to join, so you multi-load and then still use every post obsessing over me...rant about me my friend, go ahead, but there is not one other poster on here that values a single thing you say....now wait until tomorrow - search the site with a fine tooth comb and then spew venom against anything I post again...you must be proud!!

I am wasting one of my three posts (because I am too tight!!! LOLZ!) to stick up for Wiltshire. I value the things he says, he is funny.

On this occasion he is spot on, you're way wide of the mark.

[TijuanaTim]

I am wasting one of my three posts (because I am too tight!!! LOLZ!) to stick up for Wiltshire. I value the things he says, he is funny.

On this occasion he is spot on, you're way wide of the mark.

 

And guess what my friend...all his responses will be spent on stalking me again tomorrow. I am not suggesting he is envious of me, or jealous of my lifestyle as some have said...I repeat I am absolutely NOT suggesting that, however, he does have a slightly more than unhealthy fascination with me...could treat it as flattering, but quite honestly it is a shade creepy tbf.

[LA77]

I think he will browse the forum, and will reply between 65-80 minutes of reading the posts. (just kidding)

[benjii]

I am sorry, but I for one will never forgive Pardew for this!! And before any of you think I'm being too harsh, are you going to tell me we couldn't have won, or at least not lost that (and many other) game(s).

 

The writing was on the wall as early as September - it was still there with goals in this particular period of games later and it's still glaringly apparent now. This is an absolutely massive strategic/tactical problem and the problem falls firmly at the feet of the manager!!

 

This is 100% unnacceptable and 100% avoidable - okay we, in FACT, should I say 'he' did not learn and we let in soft, late goal to say, Millwall or whatever, but this was pompee FFS

 

Does he not realise the enormity of the situation and the consequence to the egos, psyches, pride etc to us - Southampton people. Haven't we eaten enough excrement already?

 

We have had what? About 40 games this year to learn to shut up shop at the hour mark. These late goals are the singlemost important reason or factor that we will not be PROMOTED, that we were ELIMINATED from the League Cup, KNOCKED OUT of the FA Cup and may lose in the JPT!! If you don't believe me then do some research.

 

Your support has been beyond belief, our new ownership is the best, we have a powerful, good footballing set of players...and a coaching staff that need to get a clue!!

 

Yet again we had a team by the balls and could not squeeze.

 

Enough already, must do better. Don't look at the skates - Don't look at the refs - Don't even look at the players - Look firmly at Pardew and maybe Wilkens etc. The buck stops there. If you're feeling as bad as I am right now, sorry Alan, but you're the only reason why!!

 

 

Worst post on this forum ever?

[Wiltshire Saint]

Wilt...you're a stalker end FACT!! You only have three posts because you're too tight to join, so you multi-load and then still use every post obsessing over me...rant about me my friend, go ahead, but there is not one other poster on here that values a single thing you say....now wait until tomorrow - search the site with a fine tooth comb and then spew venom against anything I post again...you must be proud!!

 

I have 3 posts because I refuse to pay £5 to read the constant bullsh*t that you come up with. I have never obsessed over you and I was not ranting about you. You think I am obsesses and ranting about you because you have an over inflated sense of your own importance.

 

I am wasting one of my three posts (because I am too tight!!! LOLZ!) to stick up for Wiltshire. I value the things he says, he is funny.

On this occasion he is spot on, you're way wide of the mark.

 

You're one of my favourites Ash, I want that on record.

 

And guess what my friend...all his responses will be spent on stalking me again tomorrow. I am not suggesting he is envious of me, or jealous of my lifestyle as some have said...I repeat I am absolutely NOT suggesting that, however, he does have a slightly more than unhealthy fascination with me...could treat it as flattering, but quite honestly it is a shade creepy tbf.

 

What are you wearing?

[Deppo]

I value the Wiltshire Saint.

[TijuanaTim]

I have 3 posts because I refuse to pay £5 to read the constant bullsh*t that you come up with. I have never obsessed over you and I was not ranting about you. You think I am obsesses and ranting about you because you have an over inflated sense of your own importance.

 

 

 

You're one of my favourites Ash, I want that on record.

 

 

 

What are you wearing?

 

 

Hook, line and sinker...no more needs saying LMAO.

[percy windham]

I like everyone that posted on this thread, especially CanadaSaint. No one had ever quoted me before, and he was my first. CanadaSaint, if you're reading this, I made a rather good post in "The Arts" section a few months ago if you'd like to quote that too.

[hugh]

Excellent TT!

 

I don't visit here much these days, but I was pointed in this direction to have a look. Comedy Classic.

 

... and that is not having a pop at you. I happen to disagree with you, but that is not my point. I just LOVE the responses you got.

 

Right, back to top 3's, etc.

[HurleyBurley]

TT what a 42 carat tit, he goes on about being a decent coach himself etc... etc... get a life man!!! He posts on the Ugly Inside too I've noticed, funny that most of his threads on there get ignored, probably best to do the same here, he's clueless

[influx]

I agree ,Im surprised at TT but perhaps the club not getting him tickets may have swayed his opinions a tad.

 

A tad!? )

[dronskisaint]

Tim

 

I've usually got a lot of time for your views & that doesn't change.

 

On this occasion however I think that the statistics that you use to 'prove' your point can be applied to the majority of clubs in the leagues. You could validly argue that the ones that don't come in to this category are occupying the top positions in those leagues but to use Saturday's match to try & legitimise your position is just plain wrong...in all senses of the word. Statistics are too easy to use in the overall picture paricularly given how far we've come & where from but that's another discussion.

 

I watched a team from the lower leagues outplay a team of full internationals for the majority of the game. On another day a keeper less inspired than England's probable number one would have seen three go in before they had a shot of note. Our mixture of promise, good CC league players & experienced but ageing professionals were more than a match until we started to chase the game...better described in St Marcos post. Once their second goal went in we were chasing the game & the difference in experience &, in most cases, class told & we were caught out...in my opinion this has nothing to do with your main contention & is insulting to the team & the guys (me included) who went, applauded, sang our hearts out for a team who gave everything on the day.

 

By all means throw the question in but please...it has no place this close to this match.

[St Landrew]

I think you'll find that, although TT was mightily piddled off after the Pompey game, and still feels that Saints have a tendancy, above and beyond other clubs with ambitions, to let in goals, late on in a match, he is prepared to accept that:

 

1. Pompey are Premiership, and therefore a bit of a one-off, in our season.

2. Pardew has gone a long way to making sure the late-goal tendancy doesn't carry on, into the second-half of the league program, by signing quality defenders during January, who were unfortunately cup-tied for that match.

3. I think, after the dust has settled, he forgives Pardew, but he doesn't want to end up saying there you go, I told you so, at the end of the season.

[Wiltshire Saint]

I think you'll find that, although TT was mightily piddled off after the Pompey game, and still feels that Saints have a tendancy, above and beyond other clubs with ambitions, to let in goals, late on in a match, he is prepared to accept that:

 

1. Pompey are Premiership, and therefore a bit of a one-off, in our season.

2. Pardew has gone a long way to making sure the late-goal tendancy doesn't carry on, into the second-half of the league program, by signing quality defenders during January, who were unfortunately cup-tied for that match.

3. I think, after the dust has settled, he forgives Pardew, but he doesn't want to end up saying there you go, I told you so, at the end of the season.

 

Are you his spokesperson? Did he tell you to post this? Are these his own words or have you paraphrased/made stuff up? If you are an official source of TT information, is it ok for me to stalk you and generally act in an obesessive manner? Can I hold you?

[St Landrew]

Are you his spokesperson? Did he tell you to post this? Are these his own words or have you paraphrased/made stuff up? If you are an official source of TT information, is it ok for me to stalk you and generally act in an obesessive manner? Can I hold you?

 

As I am part of the GITR charity, and TT has been our go-between with Ron Davies, and indeed our prime mover in the USA, I probably do have a little idea of his attitude. I have also exchanged posts in this thread which, if you actually read my posts and his replies, you'll see we found some common ground. As for you stalking anybody, I think you're working yourself towards yet another holiday.

[Wiltshire Saint]

I think you're working yourself towards yet another holiday.

 

Despite having a holiday already this year, I have been working extra shifts so I can go on another one soon. How did you know that? This is a little spooky. I like you St Landrew, you're a decent chap, but can you not reply to me please, it is beginning to feel like I am being stalked.

[TijuanaTim]

I think you'll find that, although TT was mightily piddled off after the Pompey game, and still feels that Saints have a tendancy, above and beyond other clubs with ambitions, to let in goals, late on in a match, he is prepared to accept that:

 

1. Pompey are Premiership, and therefore a bit of a one-off, in our season.

2. Pardew has gone a long way to making sure the late-goal tendancy doesn't carry on, into the second-half of the league program, by signing quality defenders during January, who were unfortunately cup-tied for that match.

3. I think, after the dust has settled, he forgives Pardew, but he doesn't want to end up saying there you go, I told you so, at the end of the season.

 

Thank you sir, if I could write more articulately and sanely as you have maybe I wouldn't have ruffled so many feathers.

 

p.s. Remember thinking that I'd never forgive Lawrie for getting us relegated...I gues I did!!

 

Still think if AP had said, right let's shut up shop at 1-1, that we would not have been stuffed 1-4. We may have lost by an odd one, we may have got a replay at FP and with them maybe going to the wall that could have been a win...who knows we may have even caught them on the break and sneaked it...I just know we wouldn't have been going into our next crucial match on the back of a 1-4, demoralising home defeat to our most dreaded foes, right!

[Wiltshire Saint]

Thank you sir, if I could write more articulately and sanely as you have maybe I wouldn't have ruffled so many feathers.

 

p.s. Remember thinking that I'd never forgive Lawrie for getting us relegated...I gues I did!!

 

Still think if AP had said, right let's shut up shop at 1-1, that we would not have been stuffed 1-4. We may have lost by an odd one, we may have got a replay at FP and with them maybe going to the wall that could have been a win...who knows we may have even caught them on the break and sneaked it...I just know we wouldn't have been going into our next crucial match on the back of a 1-4, demoralising home defeat to our most dreaded foes, right!

 

I like what you're wearing tonight. You look good. I saw you out when you were shopping earlier and didn't like that half length leather/ faux leather coat that you had on. Don't wear that again Tim. I did like you sunglasses though. Have you ever thought about dying your hair?

[TijuanaTim]

I like what you're wearing tonight. You look good. I saw you out when you were shopping earlier and didn't like that half length leather/ faux leather coat that you had on. Don't wear that again Tim. I did like you sunglasses though. Have you ever thought about dying your hair?

 

LOL...it's burning you up ain't it nipper. I have no hard feelings, in FACT, you're obsession with me, which you are now trying to disguise unsuccessfuly, is pretty flattering tbf. However, this is a slightly more serious 'Saints' related forum...so it's better to stay on topic here...

 

For your benefit, go over to the 'Lounge' or even to the Ugly and you can shadow me to your little heart's content.

 

Late goals sweety, that's the topic not your hero.

[Deano6]

Thank you sir, if I could write more articulately and sanely as you have maybe I wouldn't have ruffled so many feathers.

 

p.s. Remember thinking that I'd never forgive Lawrie for getting us relegated...I gues I did!!

 

Still think if AP had said, right let's shut up shop at 1-1, that we would not have been stuffed 1-4. We may have lost by an odd one, we may have got a replay at FP and with them maybe going to the wall that could have been a win...who knows we may have even caught them on the break and sneaked it...I just know we wouldn't have been going into our next crucial match on the back of a 1-4, demoralising home defeat to our most dreaded foes, right!

 

I feel as strongly opposed to this 'change of tack' as I do to the original post. I am glad AP didn't go all defensive at 1-1.

[TijuanaTim]

I feel as strongly opposed to this 'change of tack' as I do to the original post. I am glad AP didn't go all defensive at 1-1.

 

And I repect your right to that opinion...Sometimes, 'it is better to fight another day' huh.

[Saint_clark]

And I repect your right to that opinion...Sometimes, 'it is better to fight another day' huh.

 

Absolutely. And we DO live to fight another day.

Pompey, on the other hand, may not live to do anything.

Let them have their moment - it means nothing at all - we will be laughing in the long run.

[St Landrew]

Apologies for going right off topic for my post, but I've just realised what the title of this thread keeps reminding me of:

 

New Gold Dream. [81/82/83/84]

[Lets B Avenue]

Tune!

[VectisSaint]

I just know we wouldn't have been going into our next crucial match on the back of a 1-4, demoralising home defeat to our most dreaded foes, right!

Tim, think you have missed the point though, no-one is demoralised by the defeat, AFAIK, except maybe you. In fact just the opposite, most people recognise how well we played, and the score line flattered the Skates. I think the problem you have with this match is that you over-hyped it (because it was Pompey). It was a cup game against opposition 2 divisions above us, and yet we should have won (if we had taken our chances in the first half when we were battering them). If we had lost to, say west Brom, you wouldn't have this attitude about it, yet they are 1 place lower in the pyramid. Unfortunately we didn't win, we lost, and in the cup it matters not a jot whether you lose 1-2 or 1-12, its still a loss. End of story. Now back to the bread and butter, we haven't got much to go for in the league this season but would be good to see us getting to 8th place now because that would represent a good run in, and we still have a day out at Wembley to look forward to.

 

If we start shipping lots of late goals (and late means last 5 or 10 minutes) with the new players and this costs us wins then come back on here and say "told you so", and then you will have a valid point.

[St Landrew]

Watched my recording of it the other night. Brilliant first 70 minutes. We literally battered Pompey first half. There was only one team in it. They had a long shot from O'Hara, and that was about it. We had good chance after chance, and only our profligacy and David James' reactions stood between us and 2 or 3-0. Even after Pompey scored, we had equalised, and they'd scored again, we were still tearing into them, with an almost never say die attitude. I loved it. It was incredibly naive, it was stupid, but it was so f**king brave, and I couldn't help but be proud of the Lads again.

 

If anyone had told me, before hand, that my team would lose 4-1, to their bitterest rivals, yet I would come away with such a feeling, I would have thought they'd have been on the mushrooms.

[TijuanaTim]

Watched my recording of it the other night. Brilliant first 70 minutes. We literally battered Pompey first half. There was only one team in it. They had a long shot from O'Hara, and that was about it. We had good chance after chance, and only our profligacy and David James' reactions stood between us and 2 or 3-0. Even after Pompey scored, we had equalised, and they'd scored again, we were still tearing into them, with an almost never say die attitude. I loved it. It was incredibly naive, it was stupid, but it was so f**king brave, and I couldn't help but be proud of the Lads again.

 

If anyone had told me, before hand, that my team would lose 4-1, to their bitterest rivals, yet I would come away with such a feeling, I would have thought they'd have been on the mushrooms.

 

You are so right, we did play well, we did dominate...but yes and most importantly, we were naive - for the umpteenth time this season. So is it in fact naivety, or by this stage dowright stupidity...when do we start to learn from trends, patterns or 'repeat offences'?

 

To be perfectly honest, it would have been better to be boring or over-cautious and be heading to fartton next Wednesday...but that's just me. He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

 

Oh and 'Vectis', I really DO NOT want to come back and say I told you so, I am passionate, die-hard Saint and it hurts - it really hurts being spanked by three on our own turf whatever spin we try to put on it. Just want Saints to succeed, especially against those sailor boys.

[VectisSaint]

You are so right, we did play well, we did dominate...but yes and most importantly, we were naive - for the umpteenth time this season. So is it in fact naivety, or by this stage dowright stupidity...when do we start to learn from trends, patterns or 'repeat offences'?

 

To be perfectly honest, it would have been better to be boring or over-cautious and be heading to fartton next Wednesday...but that's just me. He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

 

Oh and 'Vectis', I really DO NOT want to come back and say I told you so, I am passionate, die-hard Saint and it hurts - it really hurts being spanked by three on our own turf whatever spin we try to put on it. Just want Saints to succeed, especially against those sailor boys.

 

Come on Tim, lets be 'aving you :-)

We didn't get spanked on our own Turf last week. Today we beat the top team in the league on their patch and with no late goals. Humble Pie anyone?

[Wiltshire Saint]

Brighton conceded in the 5th minute of injury time. You have to ask what is going on there.

Leeds let a goal in in the 77th minute. Who the hell is the defensive coach there?

Also Exeter conceded, at home, in the 77th minute. They need some specialist coaching or something.

You know that Bristol rovers....conceded in the 92 minute. You got to ask some serious questions about the management team there.

I see Southend conceded a goal in the 80th minute. I mean come on! What sort of teams let in goals in the 80th minute! disorganised, poor defenders, lacking in confidence, unfit.....there is no excuse for it.

In the same game, Southend scored against MK Dons in the 89th minute. There must be something about the MK Dons defenders and coaches that is causing this problem.

What I really couldn't believe was when Tranmere conceded, at home, a goal in the 86th minute! Pathetic.

I just wonder what the credentials of the Brenford defensive coach is seeing as they conceded in 84th minute. They really need to start having a word with the team, maybe take the defenders to one side and boost their confidence or something.

[kpturner]

Brighton conceded in the 5th minute of injury time. You have to ask what is going on there.

Leeds let a goal in in the 77th minute. Who the hell is the defensive coach there?

Also Exeter conceded, at home, in the 77th minute. They need some specialist coaching or something.

You know that Bristol rovers....conceded in the 92 minute. You got to ask some serious questions about the management team there.

I see Southend conceded a goal in the 80th minute. I mean come on! What sort of teams let in goals in the 80th minute! disorganised, poor defenders, lacking in confidence, unfit.....there is no excuse for it.

In the same game, Southend scored against MK Dons in the 89th minute. There must be something about the MK Dons defenders and coaches that is causing this problem.

What I really couldn't believe was when Tranmere conceded, at home, a goal in the 86th minute! Pathetic.

I just wonder what the credentials of the Brenford defensive coach is seeing as they conceded in 84th minute. They really need to start having a word with the team, maybe take the defenders to one side and boost their confidence or something.

Spot on! Late goals are just not acceptable in modern football. We should probably stop the games at 60 minutes rather than 90 to avoid it....but then would goals conceded on 59 minutes qualify as "late" instead? :confused: What is the solution?.....maybe not play the game at all perhaps.