66, 75, 82 And 85

[Rebel]

it is the result that matteters though - and in this game more than any other!

 

it was a bad substition by AP and at 3-1 down if not 2-1 down we should have shut up shop to keep the score down for prides sake

 

we should have scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half - and that lack of venom in front of goal really worries me

 

we also have scary lack of pace in the team

 

even if they go out of business this week we are not going to hear the end of it from those gloating inbreds for a long long time

[TijuanaTim]

Not really, you can't say look at me.

 

Where were you for the game today Tim?

 

In my beachside home mate, however I travel more and spend more supporting Saints in one season than you do in ten...so keep it in y'pants for the time being.

[Legod Third Coming]

If I pick out something from a very minority, random news source here are we going to treat it as FACT?

 

You 'suspect', that means the same as you guess or in English 'you do not know', so stop trying to back track. You're 'in America', 'Iowa farm hand' derision is clear to see...Oh and btw, there will be the odd person employed in farming from the fine state of Iowa that has forgotten more aboutfootball/soccer whatever than you have ever known...so quit the back-tracking and be counted for what you are.

 

The Guardian minority? Right...

 

Tim the point is you are plain wrong, whether you're black, American, gay, Arabaic, I couldn't give a feck.

 

Your attitude towards today's team stinks.

[TijuanaTim]

it is the result that matteters though - and in this game more than any other!

 

it was a bad substition by AP and at 3-1 down if not 2-1 down we should have shut up shop to keep the score down for prides sake

 

we should have scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half - and that lack of venom in front of goal really worries me

 

we also have scary lack of pace in the team

 

even if they go out of business this week we are not going to hear the end of it from those gloating inbreds for a long long time

 

Great post - end of..

[Windmill Arm 2]

I am sorry, but I for one will never forgive Pardew for this!! And before any of you think I'm being too harsh, are you going to tell me we couldn't have won, or at least not lost that (and many other) game(s).

 

The writing was on the wall as early as September - it was still there with goals in this particular period of games later and it's still glaringly apparent now. This is an absolutely massive strategic/tactical problem and the problem falls firmly at the feet of the manager!!

 

This is 100% unnacceptable and 100% avoidable - okay we, in FACT, should I say 'he' did not learn and we let in soft, late goal to say, Millwall or whatever, but this was pompee FFS

 

Does he not realise the enormity of the situation and the consequence to the egos, psyches, pride etc to us - Southampton people. Haven't we eaten enough excrement already?

 

We have had what? About 40 games this year to learn to shut up shop at the hour mark. These late goals are the singlemost important reason or factor that we will not be PROMOTED, that we were ELIMINATED from the League Cup, KNOCKED OUT of the FA Cup and may lose in the JPT!! If you don't believe me then do some research.

 

Your support has been beyond belief, our new ownership is the best, we have a powerful, good footballing set of players...and a coaching staff that need to get a clue!!

 

Yet again we had a team by the balls and could not squeeze.

 

Enough already, must do better. Don't look at the skates - Don't look at the refs - Don't even look at the players - Look firmly at Pardew and maybe Wilkens etc. The buck stops there. If you're feeling as bad as I am right now, sorry Alan, but you're the only reason why!!

 

They are Premiership, we are L1 You are talking shyte!

[TijuanaTim]

The Guardian minority? Right...

 

Tim the point is you are plain wrong, whether you're black, American, gay, Arabaic, I couldn't give a feck.

 

Your attitude towards today's team stinks.

 

 

"black, American, gay, Arabaic"...keep trying, digging y'self deeper or why would you mention these other groups??

 

Guardian...yes mate very small minority read that publication. Maybe very entertaining, but how many people read it? There are local papers in the UK with a larger readership I'd say.

[St Landrew]

it is the result that matteters though - and in this game more than any other!

 

it was a bad substition by AP and at 3-1 down if not 2-1 down we should have shut up shop to keep the score down for prides sake

 

we should have scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half - and that lack of venom in front of goal really worries me

 

we also have scary lack of pace in the team

 

even if they go out of business this week we are not going to hear the end of it from those gloating inbreds for a long long time

 

Not so great a post IMO. Lots of IF ONLY's and SHOULD HAVE's.

 

The result in this match is from the FA Cup. In fact, it matters little in the great League scheme of things.

 

We HAD a scary lack of pace in the team TODAY, shown up by a Premiership team with pace. It's why they are 2 divisions higher than us. Possibly 2, 1 or 0 divisions next season.

 

I agree, we'll never hear the end of it. In many encounters, we have won about 37 times, and they have won 21. It's their turn, and they have a lot of wins to make up. It's like the boat-race.

[Legod Third Coming]

"black, American, gay, Arabaic"...keep trying, digging y'self deeper or why would you mention these other groups??

 

Guardian...yes mate very small minority read that publication. Maybe very entertaining, but how many people read it? There are local papers in the UK with a larger readership I'd say.

 

Maybe your little 'paddy' with the ticket office has clouded your judgement... ??

 

Those of us who were there today clapped our team off because they made us proud. And were beaten by a better team - paid ten times as much, trading insolvent, packed full of African internationals and with the England keeper playing his best game in years...

 

There's no point arguing with me. Just look around this site if you don't believe me. Or is your mind too closed for that kind of enlightenment?

[MatthewStiles]

To shut up shop at 0-0 in a home game in the cup would have been pathetic. Saints put in a great performance today. Might as well be hanged for a sheep than a lamb

[Crispypie]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

With respect Tim, surely you have to put that in the context of a what times in the matches have we also scored to win, plus analyse all the other matches in the league to see how many times all teams win or lose between the 50th and 90th minute.

 

I havent done this analysis but I would be very suprised if it didnt show that the vast majority of games are won and lost in this period, does this mean that all these managers should be sacked?

 

Okay we got picked open today trying to get back into the game, but it was s**t or bust and it didnt work out. I really enjoyed myself today, great atmosphere, great commitment. My first derby and not one I will forget and not just for the wrong reasons.

 

I dont know if you intend to go to Wembley but hopefully you will feel a bit more optimistic as the day approaches.

[LA77]

The same thing we do that annoys me is giving soft free kicks in our defensive 3rd. Thomas did it against MK Dons when the don was going nowhere, with his back to goal (lunge in for no reason and we are defending another set piece). I've just got back and after a long day I'm pretty sure their 1st goal was on the back of giving a free kick away when the ball was going out (and then we had a booking).

 

We need to stop giving away stupid free kicks and learn to stay on our feet and shepherd them away, instead of lunging in. Tim makes a good point to be fair, we have thrown points away all season letting leads slip away. Today I felt we didn't have to go "all out" the way we did, which played in to their hands.

 

As ever, PROUD TO BE A SAINT. ONWARDS AND UPWARDS

[Daren W]

Maybe your little 'paddy' with the ticket office has clouded your judgement... ??

 

Those of us who were there today clapped our team off because they made us proud. And were beaten by a better team - paid ten times as much, trading insolvent, packed full of African internationals and with the England keeper playing his best game in years...

 

There's no point arguing with me. Just look around this site if you don't believe me. Or is your mind too closed for that kind of enlightenment?

 

And that is the best point in this entire thread... Had David James not been in stunning form then we would have won. Simple. He produced at least two stunning saves, quite stunning...

 

After seeing him play today I think the world cup should be quite interesting...

 

On the plus side, we just got caught on the break. It's not some amazing surprise, we went for it and after their second, we were chasing the game. All this over analysing of the game doesn't help matters, for 75 minutes of the game we were the better side against a team two divisions above us...

[Huntingdon]

Nice comments from somebody who spends his life up Ron Davies' arse in America

[TijuanaTim]

Maybe your little 'paddy' with the ticket office has clouded your judgement... ??

 

Those of us who were there today clapped our team off because they made us proud. And were beaten by a better team - paid ten times as much, trading insolvent, packed full of African internationals and with the England keeper playing his best game in years...

 

There's no point arguing with me. Just look around this site if you don't believe me. Or is your mind too closed for that kind of enlightenment?

 

'paddy', I have no problem with the TO, they have a job to do. So does AP and one of his job is 'strategy'. Strategy is learning from situations and planning ahead how to master them up front....whereas 'tactics' are more of the on-the-spot tactical decision, or what to do when things go wrong.

 

Once more the team was great, I'm proud of them. The fans supported the team in their droves....my problem is that our (for the most part), excellent leader has led us into a humiliating reverse against the one team on the planet we do not want to be smashed by, simply because he has failed to address a problem we had several million pounds and forty games ago!!

[TijuanaTim]

Nice comments from somebody who spends his life up Ron Davies' arse in America

 

 

You seriously thought before posting this. Ron is a widower, with no-one, he used to be crippled and couldn't walk, plus he had no means of transport.

 

What would you have me do to make you happy, abandon him?...he has nobody and nothing 'cept his artistic ability.

 

You must be proud mate...like I said 'takes all sort'...even anonymous, cyber loud mouths.

[sidthesquid]

I actually think you are wrong about today, but I do agree with you about us letting teams off the hook and conceding late goals. Today we had to push on having let the second one in and their pace was too much for the venerable legs at the back in the last ten minutes. We were guilty several times of being caught with too many up the pitch throughout the game, but that is not what normally undoes us.

Mostly we a) fail to take a gilt-egded game-finishing chance then we b)ease off a shade and c) sit too deep before, finally d) going into headless chicken mode, allowing teams that never thought they had a chance to suddenly realise that they do.

And I hate to say it, but I am convinced that Kelvin is at the heart of this problem. The last two games we let a one-nil lead slip the equaliser was headed in from within the six-yard box and as far as I'm concerned anything in that area is the keepers, and not dealing with punts/crosses just invites pressure in the most vulnerable zone. So, right argument, wrong place & time, I'm afraid, mate.

[NickG]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

do the analysis for all clubs games and see when goals are scored.

 

boys did well, ran themselves into the ground, went looking for equalisor and premiership team scored against 3rd div team.

 

Not time for point scoring imho.

[derry]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

Tim, you make a very valid point but it would have been better not to link it to today. It loses it's emphasis because of it.

 

I think today was unique in as much as the last three goals were on the counter where we are pressing forward, normally we are getting a lead and backing off, defending deep and gifting the initiative and possession to the opposition who invariably score. We also concede late from set pieces.

[TijuanaTim]

Totally respect your thoughts there sid, yes on one occasion maybe that's today, this can well be true...Just that we cannot ignore this damaging trend one moment longer.

 

Just for a crack, imagine we had planned for this and at the hour mark tightened up. We may still have lost by an odd goal...we have stolen one and won, or even now be facing a replay and in case nobody noticed that would have put us in the hat for the quarters. One thing for sure is that we would not have been globally humiliated 1-4 FACT!!

[derry]

Nice comments from somebody who spends his life up Ron Davies' arse in America

 

You Sir should learn some manners. I think you should apologise. This is an unnecessary insulting, juvenile, rediculous comment.

[St Chalet]

In my beachside home mate, however I travel more and spend more supporting Saints in one season than you do in ten...so keep it in y'pants for the time being.

 

First, you don't know what I spend or how much I travel. But given your location there is a fair chance you may be correct. I really don't get this better fan rubbish.

 

Secondly you spend a four page whore of a thread last week stating that you can't get a ticket and you are an uber fan and really deserve one, then when a number of kindly hearted people offer to help the flights suddenly become a bit tricky. It did scream a little of 'look at me'.

 

I think people would be kinder to you if you:

 

a) Didn't start threads everytime you wished to post.

b) Didn't mention you lived in LA every other time.

c) Didn't recomend MLS players, we are a UK L1 side and we have plenty of choice on this little island.

d) Didn't make yourself out to be a better fan than everyone else on here.

 

Your nagging point about late goals is relevant and I happen to agree with you on it for most of the season, although today I have never been prouder to go down the way we did.

 

You are suffering from posters on here playing you, not your posts. When everyone else on the whole thread is saying it mate, maybe it is time to have a look in the mirror.

 

The good news for you is that you are Saints fan, and thus you cannot ever be a bad man.

[kpturner]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

It makes me laugh that you cannot see how ludicrous this post is.

[VectisSaint]

Great post - end of..

Actually Tim it was a rubbish post. What sort of drivel is it to shut up shop when you are 2-1 down to keep the score down. What utter complete ******. It was a cup game, the only time I might have agreed with that response is in a league situation where goal difference might count. If you lose in the Cup you lose, doesn't matter if its 1-2 or 1-10 (except a bit of ill judged pride). At 1-2 down with 10 to go you go all out to get an equaliser. And anyway the last thing we needed was a draw, too many games already and we wouldnt' have wanted to play in their shed.

 

This thread really is stupid. All started by a ridiculous post that indicated no understanding of the game at SMS today. We were fecking good today, tactics were spot on, only thing that let us down was execution It hurts we lost 4-1 but so what, we lost, and there is no evidence from todays game, or Tuesdays, to support the hypothesis of Tijuana Tim.

 

If you really want to have a go, then look at our inability to take chances and bury teams, and the way this has coincided with the loss of Connolly. Thats the big problem that hasn't been addressed (and letting Lambert take the corner kicks). Valid arguments, with much more to discuss than the ridiculous rubbish on this thread.

Edited 14 February, 2010 by VectisSaint
I meant corner kicks not free kicks

[Pugwash]

Tim,

 

I actually agree with you in part. Late goals have been a problem for years, not just since September. However, I disagree that AP isn't doing anything about it. The players he's brought in January are/will improve this, and with Puncheon has added a bit more pace. The problem today was they were cup-tied.

 

The main reason it happened today was (swallows hard!) that Poopey's players were by and large more skilful, pacy and slick in their passing moves. The only way the Saints players could compete today (and they DID compete) was to press them at every opportunity, get in their faces and hustle them. That's a high energy game that very nearly paid off. I thought before the game that if we weren't winning by 75 minutes we'd lose it in the last 15. Lallana was absolutely knackered at 70 minutes.

 

I still think it was worth 'going for it' in the last ten minutes. The team had done us proud by then and I don't think shutting up shop when you're losing in a cup game - even against that lot - makes any sense.

 

I think they'll all learn a bit of a lesson today, including Pardew, but there ain't much wrong, so chill a bit.

 

Oh, and Utaka(?) was about five yards offside - twice.

[derry]

We were beaten today not so much by the pace but by the fact we didn't keep our back four as a unit and allowed ourselves to be outnumbered when they counter attacked.

 

I would have thought with the known pace of the three attackers and the left back, we would have opted for the back four to hold their positions and not throw them forward as we did when level.

[VectisSaint]

Totally respect your thoughts there sid, yes on one occasion maybe that's today, this can well be true...Just that we cannot ignore this damaging trend one moment longer.

 

Just for a crack, imagine we had planned for this and at the hour mark tightened up. We may still have lost by an odd goal...we have stolen one and won, or even now be facing a replay and in case nobody noticed that would have put us in the hat for the quarters. One thing for sure is that we would not have been globally humiliated 1-4 FACT!!

No-one thinks we were humiliated, except you. Most people, including Pompey, think we were the better team. Football's like that, soemtimes the result doesn't reflect the game. In the end we lost a cup match, it really is irrelevant whether it is 1-2 or 1-4, we lost. End of.

 

Now lets see what happens when we have our full team available again over the next 6 weeks, hopefully with Connolly back in contention as well, his class has been missed, and that is much more relevant than the content of this thread.

[TijuanaTim]

First, you don't know what I spend or how much I travel. But given your location there is a fair chance you may be correct. I really don't get this better fan rubbish.

 

Secondly you spend a four page whore of a thread last week stating that you can't get a ticket and you are an uber fan and really deserve one, then when a number of kindly hearted people offer to help the flights suddenly become a bit tricky. It did scream a little of 'look at me'.

 

I think people would be kinder to you if you:

 

a) Didn't start threads everytime you wished to post.

b) Didn't mention you lived in LA every other time.

c) Didn't recomend MLS players, we are a UK L1 side and we have plenty of choice on this little island.

d) Didn't make yourself out to be a better fan than everyone else on here.

 

Your nagging point about late goals is relevant and I happen to agree with you on it for most of the season, although today I have never been prouder to go down the way we did.

 

You are suffering from posters on here playing you, not your posts. When everyone else on the whole thread is saying it mate, maybe it is time to have a look in the mirror.

 

The good news for you is that you are Saints fan, and thus you cannot ever be a bad man.

 

 

To be fair mate, this was a reply to your original snipe...The reason I did not come home for the game, which I was dying to do was that I simply wanted to do it all above board after all the 'better than you' comments on here. I was respectful, read peoples concerns and acted appropriately...just simply ran out of time.

[St Chalet]

To be fair mate, this was a reply to your original snipe...The reason I did not come home for the game, which I was dying to do was that I simply wanted to do it all above board after all the 'better than you' comments on here. I was respectful, read peoples concerns and acted appropriately...just simply ran out of time.

 

No probs, if you need a ticket for the JPT let me know. I will happily get you one and even buy you a beer on delivery.

 

I think you hit a nerve with people today fella.

[percy windham]

What this you and percy have some sort of anti-American agenda, fair enough takes all sorts, even bigots.

My post was clearly not "anti-American", but (tail between the legs time) I may have deserved it for posting the least witty and humourour remark ever seen on these boards.

 

For what its worth, I do agree with you to an extent. We do seem to look fragile towards the end of a game, but Pardew has clearly noticed this and tried to improve the squad accordingly. Today's game was a one off though, and we wont come up against a team that has that much pace every week, similary we wont be pushing up so much for a winner each week, nor will we face a keeper like David James every week.

 

We appreciate that your emotions are all over the place, but theres really no need to be so upset by this result.

[Barry the Badger]

Tim, as others have said you have a valid point in general, but what you have done is picked the wrong game to try and demonstrate it.

 

We have conceded unnecesary late goals this season but todays were simply because we were pushing to get back into it and the lads ran out of legs after working their arses off.

 

We were not humiliated in any way.

 

The suggestion that we should have shut up shop at 2-1 or 3-1 to keep the score respectable is a completely stupid one in my opinion.

[BARCELONASAINT]

I'm sorry i don't often have a go at a fellow fan....but what a complete an utter idiot you are sir!!!!!

[TijuanaTim]

I'm sorry i don't often have a go at a fellow fan....but what a complete an utter idiot you are sir!!!!!

 

Lot of people on here with nothing to say huh? How would you like me to respond, call you a name perhaps. You don't get it do you? Those sort of (lack of) comments just endorse what the poster originally said.

 

Peace out.

[ringwood]

we got done for pace at the back, but the cb's arn't the normal first team choice,

 

with waigo and antonio as pace up front we had them rattled, when you consider how many games we've played you have more choice to fit the statistics for late goals.

 

they brought on fresh legs as pardew did, for them it worked, for us it didn't,

 

they are a prem side, we were always going to struggle against true pace, in Div 1 you usually gey players learning the game or the opposite extreme in the prem you get players in their prime

 

yes we missed our chances, do you think on the poopey forum theres a thread complaining that James had to make world class saves to keep out a L1 side? and that they have analysed it down to the minutes we had our chances? or maybe they are complaining that AG should of made his changes earlier so they could score more?

 

when WGS was here we ran for 90 mins, scored late goals, every team is different personally the reason I think RJ has been replaced is not his pace but his concentration but today I couldn't fault it

 

pardew has analysed it, he's made signings , he's made changes, the team is learning but its hardly a settled team, Birmingham beat us earlier in the season, they are now a very settled team hard to beat etc

[CanadaSaint]

Nice comments from somebody who spends his life up Ron Davies' arse in America

 

That's one of the nastiest posts I've ever seen on here and it says a hell of a lot more about you than about the person you were trying to aim at.

 

You should hang your head in shame but somehow I doubt that you will.

[Dr Who?]

Everything negative that has happened to us this year is because of one reason... and it is not the 10 points - not injuries - not lack of money or backing - not having to play nippers - not lack of fantastic support, but because AP has failed to address a problem that has been slapping him in the face for almost six months or about 40 games.

 

Believe it, if we now go to Wembley and fail to win against a very average Carlisle, it will be because AP is strategically failing to address a major malfunction and they will score critically after the hour mark.

 

 

The same Carlise team that just won 5-0 against........ MK Dons??

 

Complete over reaction, we played well, and in the end they are two leagues higher than us, with better players and premier league fitness. If we had of taken the lead, which with a little more luck we could/should have, we may.... may have beaten them, but as the game goes on it gets tougher and tougher to pull a win out of the game.

 

Well played Saints... next season then questions WILL have to be answered if we are not challenging at the top of league 1.

[teamsaint]

Yes....absolutely, it is the time!! Nothing else, week-in-week-out we lose/draw game through conceding goals during a certain period of the game.

 

Is it fitness?? Is it lack of concentration?? What is it...It is the coaching staff failing to be aware or addressing it, that is what it is.

 

Should have been addressed in September when couldnl't buy a win, or when we were knocked out the LC then through Fall as we continued to allow it to happen...now we've lost to the one team we least want to because of it!!

 

Pards HAS successfully closed out games, on some occasions.

 

At Millwall we let in a really late goal, but then again we scored as really late one too. Point being............. as this team grows and develops conceding late goals will disappear from their game, hopefully.

 

One thing that league 1 has shown all too clearly is the value of team building over time. (Swindon, Millwall etc etc)

 

AP isn't perfect.He will make mistakes.But surely if we have learned one lesson from the last 5 years its that we need to be patient with good managers, because even with the good ones, things go wrong.

 

But for a few tiny differences, we could have taken poopey to the cleaners today, and AP would have been a "legend"

 

But we didn't.And he isn't. But he might be. So it goes.

 

 

(mind you , I wish he could find just one player apart from Ricky to take free kicks)

[Tractor_Saint]

 

 

Tell you what - if you don't want to support the club then please find another one 20+ miles down the road. We won't miss you.

[St Landrew]

Tell you what - if you don't want to support the club then please find another one 20+ miles down the road. We won't miss you.

 

Actually TS, that's not really true, as TT has spent a great deal of time with Saints hero Ron Davies, and he and his girlfriend have devoted many hours to Ron's well being. I don't think a Saints fan who couldn't care less and who would rather be a Pompey fan would bother doing that. So not only is your throwaway jibe not funny, it's actually quite insulting.

 

If I were you, I'd apologise.

[Plumstead_Saint]

Daft original post.

And most of them that follow it too.

I think I'd rather leave the manager's decisions to Pardew.

Oh and I thought we played really well, for at least 65 minutes.

Edited 13 February, 2010 by Plumstead_Saint

[Genk]

Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points...

 

So what's the answer?

 

Tim, firstly I wouldn't class a late goal until after the 75th minute myself. I understand what you are saying but teams tend to go for it more in the last 15 minutes or so resulting in more goals being scored in this period. I think this season we have conceded a fair few late-ish goals but if you look back to the beginning of the season when we couldn't buy a win, we had the nerves going on at the back which resulted in teams capitalising along with a dodgy initial back line. It's unfair to criticise Pardew for this. Unless we have world class defenders like Man Utd etc, late goals are always going to occur especially based on how each specific game has gone, in terms of is a team pushing for an equalizer and gets caught on the break, which was exactly what happened today. I'm also sure that if you looked into it in detail at teams other than say the top 4 in each division, over the course of the season, they would also concede a fair amount of late goals. It happens in football

[scott_saints]

F**king yanks.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

FFS they were always going to hit us on the break if we were pushing for a goal. I haven't seen so much pace and lack of footballing ability since I watched Roots.

[Tractor_Saint]

If I were you, I'd apologise.

 

Are you his mother? You're certainly not me so don't tell me to apologise. He might be thrust up on your mantelpiece at home for helping out Ron but he wrote the utter drivel as the OP.

 

Or are we not allowed now to have a differing opinion to TijuanaTim because of his godlike status?

Edited 14 February, 2010 by Tractor_Saint

[Ponty]

How's this thread working out?

[SFC Forever]

Well, I wasn't sure about the Waigo substitution but he had taken a bang in the ribs and run his heart out, so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt there.

 

Otherwise, it wasn't AP's fault that James had a good game and some of our finishing was a bit soft.

 

The team played well.

 

 

 

This good game James had was more about the forwards missing gilt edged chances. I was in the Chapel directly behind the goal and watched the poor attempts made by Waigo. His first header just about reached James. Who luckily for him fell on a ball that was almost stationary.The second wasn't much better. James did not look safe and made a couple of errors that could have been costly against a better attack. Though he was a lot better than Kelvin was in the second half.

My main hope is that this Puncheon chap can cross because we need the likes of Lampard and or Barnard in the middle banging in the chances.

 

I do have one question that I feel needs an answer. Why on earth when we were fighting to get back in the game was Perry left at the back to sweep up. Harding and one other I could have understood.

[SFC Forever]

The same Carlise team that just won 5-0 against........ MK Dons??

 

Complete over reaction, we played well, and in the end they are two leagues higher than us, with better players and premier league fitness. If we had of taken the lead, which with a little more luck we could/should have, we may.... may have beaten them, but as the game goes on it gets tougher and tougher to pull a win out of the game.

 

Well played Saints... next season then questions WILL have to be answered if we are not challenging at the top of league 1.

 

Having seen the comical nature of most of those goals I would sincerely hope that we do not make the same type of errors as MK Dons did yesterday.

[John B]

Are you his mother? You're certainly not me so don't tell me to apologise. He might be thrust up on your mantelpiece at home for helping out Ron but he wrote the utter drivel as the OP.

 

Or are we not allowed now to have a differing opinion to TijuanaTim because of his godlike status?

 

I think you may have a point

 

 

The OP appears to show a complete lack of understanding of football and how often late goals are scored by the better teams

[OldNick]

I think you may have a point

 

 

The OP appears to show a complete lack of understanding of football and how often late goals are scored by the better teams

I agree ,Im surprised at TT but perhaps the club not getting him tickets may have swayed his opinions a tad.

[Tom]

The people throwing insults on this thread are probably the same idiots yesterday who were attacking the mounted police and vandalising the citreon garage in the process.

[Stu Man Do]

Late goals are a ***** but thats part of football, unfortunate as that is what exactly do you expect Pardew to do about that? I'm pretty certain a generic fitness or improve concentration won't cover this.