TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Again.... you are a complete arse. You clearly have never played the game. Another person with nothing to say but insults, I have played competetively for well over 40 years and still play Saturdays and Sundays with men half my age. I do drink, smoke, I am a vegetarian and (semi) fast on Mondays to maximize my fitness, stamina and fatigue recovery. I have played for and with this very site's team...ask Steve, Rabbit and the rest how I performed as it not for me to say. Gained my first FA coaching credentials at 24 years old and was a Hants Div I first team manager/head coach by 27, with one of the biggest clubs in Hants/Wessex scene. After emigrating to the US I have continued to top up my coaching certifications. What about you Donny, just asking? Played a bit in the pub league once or at junior school...get a few beers down you and watch the Saints occassionally when sober enough? Tell me I am not far wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Another person with nothing to say but insults, I have played competetively for well over 40 years and still play Saturdays and Sundays with men half my age. I do drink, smoke, I am a vegetarian and (semi) fast on Mondays to maximize my fitness, stamina and fatigue recovery. I have played for and with this very site's team...ask Steve, Rabbit and the rest how I performed as it not for me to say. Gained my first FA coaching credentials at 24 years old and was a Hants Div I first team manager/head coach by 27, with one of the biggest clubs in Hants/Wessex scene. After emigrating to the US I have continued to top up my coaching certifications. You're still a d!ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Just something to clear up first Tim; were you at the match, or were you listening to it across the pond? OK, you're gutted. We all are. But I for one was proud of every single player on that pitch today.They gave their all and for the majoirty of the match they were the better side. Naturally, not hearing the commentary on the radio, or watching it on the telly, I do not know what the commentators opinion of it all was, but I'm prepared to put money on it that at some stage or other, quite well into the match, they will have stated that if one didn't know which team was which, most would have guessed that we were the Premiership outfit. I also suspect that even when we had equalised, the pundits might have thought that we could go on and win it. Console yourself that in a weeks time, the Skates will probably cease to exist. It would have been nice for their last match to have been a defeat to us, but we will soon have swapped places with them, they probably having been reduced to a level below Eastleigh and Havant . It will take them years to get back, with their crap stadium, with any of their quality players having been sold. In case you had not realised it, this wasn't the team that we could have played if we had put out our best team, it was the team that we had at the beginning of the season, as some other players who might have produced a different result were either cup-tied or injured. Personally, it is my opinion that Fonte for Perry and Murty for Thomas and Connolly up front with Lambert might have won the game for us. So I cannot see that any blame attaches to Pardew. Fair enough Wes, I respect what you're saying yes I am now watching the game for the second time!! The players were great, I agree!! The STRATEGY however, was not - we were beaten yet again but not one but four late goals, just like we have altogether too many times this season. If there is a blatant problem resolve it...if not look no further than the mirror Mr Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 It's better to catch them on the break than have them do it to us FOUR LATE TIMES, that is the point tbf. We desperately need coaching, or at the very minimum a strategy that makes us aware of this problem. What could we catch them on the break with we have two pacy players? they have about 4 or 5. That isn't our game, soaking up pressure at home is NEGATIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Why does this tosser, Tijuana Tim always believe his opinions are too important to go on the relevant threads? I am sick of him always starting a new thread to talk about things when there are lots of threads already going. Rope your ego in and post on the match reaction thread, just like other people reacting to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Completely over the top reaction, Tim you are usually quite sensible. Completely outclassed Premiership team for 50 minutes and should have been 2 or 3 up, but for some poor finishing and one or two saves by England's #1. Great reaction when Pompey scored. Their second wasn't even particularly late, we were still going for the win. The 3rd and 4th were down to going balls out for an equaliser. I seriously think you need to have a word with yourself and see that in fact we were ****ing good today. 3rd division v 1st division and it was difficult to tell which was which, but individual skill told in the end. Vectis...get your point, I am not denying that we played well. Yes, we definitely could have won - guess what tho'? We did not and because yet again we were sucker punched with late goals, a problem that has been gnawing at us all year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 yawn mong mong mong yawn. We just got smashed 4-1 by pompey but we played very well so I dont feel bad. I SHOULD be suicidal but im not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadiz saint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 "I have played competetively for well over 40 years and still play Saturdays and Sundays with men half my age. I do drink, smoke, I am a vegetarian and (semi) fast on Mondays to maximize my fitness, stamina and fatigue recovery. I have played for and with this very site's team...ask Steve, Rabbit and the rest how I performed as it not for me to say. Gained my first FA coaching credentials at 24 years old and was a Hants Div I first team manager/head coach by 27, with one of the biggest clubs in Hants/Wessex scene. After emigrating to the US I have continued to top up my coaching certifications." Completely irrelevant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Tim the club was offically reborn this week. we could have gone for an extra midfield player and been patient but we went for it both on and off pitch. yes we got picked off but 12 months ago we played square balls and rolled over as man u tickled our tummys. Pride has been restored, since the relegation season i have seethed with anger over the way we played, got treated at Fratton but today the club and supporters that we are THE FUTURE for hampshire football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Another person with nothing to say but insults, I have played competetively for well over 40 years and still play Saturdays and Sundays with men half my age. I do drink, smoke, I am a vegetarian and (semi) fast on Mondays to maximize my fitness, stamina and fatigue recovery. I have played for and with this very site's team...ask Steve, Rabbit and the rest how I performed as it not for me to say. Gained my first FA coaching credentials at 24 years old and was a Hants Div I first team manager/head coach by 27, with one of the biggest clubs in Hants/Wessex scene. After emigrating to the US I have continued to top up my coaching certifications. What about you Donny, just asking? Played a bit in the pub league once or at junior school...get a few beers down you and watch the Saints occassionally when sober enough? Tell me I am not far wrong. Actually i had plenty to say as well as the insults but you ignored the post 2 up from the insult post which completely ripped apart your argument!! If you played then surely you know that if your playing a team with more talent than you and you commit everyone forward in search of an equalizer, youre gonna get caught!!!! no blame can be put on the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 (edited) Fair enough Wes, I respect what you're saying yes I am now watching the game for the second time!! The players were great, I agree!! The STRATEGY however, was not - we were beaten yet again but not one but four late goals, just like we have altogether too many times this season. If there is a blatant problem resolve it...if not look no further than the mirror Mr Pardew. TIm we were chasing the game end of!! They got ahead based on a jammy deflection off schneiderlin in our box followed by a good finish. We then equalised and got carried away chasing the game. Our defence is old and was always going to struggle late in the game against their pace! But to say thats Pardew was at fault is just plain wrong, why? because he has addressed that with new signings but they were cup tied today. If you want to talk about Saints losing to late goals this is hardly a new thing is it? And certainly not something that has just appeared under Pardew! I think this is a case of a very passionate Saints fan over reacting to a Pompey defeat (comment based on the fact they are two divisions above us). I for one will back this team and manager as they showed to me today they mean business! Did they come short in the end today? yes a little! But we all should have expected Pompey to end stronger and even win given the position of the two football teams (not the running of each club). I do feel the league form should be better and i think you will see an upturn in form in the league in the coming weeks, i still expect us to run the playoff's close and win the JPT, keep the faith this is not the end of the world!!! Edited 13 February, 2010 by Alright Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Vectis...get your point, I am not denying that we played well. Yes, we definitely could have won - guess what tho'? We did not and because yet again we were sucker punched with late goals, a problem that has been gnawing at us all year!! If you want to make a valid point, then thats what you need to be saying. We lost it because we are not clinicial enough to make our pressure tell. Lallana and Papa should have buried them in the 1st half today, and with James flapping it was there for the taking. The strategy today was absolutely spot on, go at them with everything you've got, don't let them settle, or allow them to play, and go in with at least a goal lead at HT. The strategy was brilliant, the execution was not. BTW no blame attache to Adam or Papa, thought they both played well, but a little inexperience and youthfulness let them down a bit, Rickie showed how it should be done (again). I don't think its just me that thinks you are very very wide of the mark at least today. You may have had a point earlier in the season, which is why AP has brought in Puncheon, Fonte, Jon and Dan. The fact that none of them could play today or three of them last Tuesday may have escaped you, I don't know. We have also been missing Hammond for the last few league games. The biggest problem we have had for the last couple months is the loss of Connolly who is pure class, without thim we have struggled to wrap games up. By the way in case you don't know we scored late on Tuesday, when we were 2-1 up. No goals conceded in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 (edited) LOL did you see that match? I don't know what match you saw but the simple fact is none of our back four could keep up with them end off. I'm proud of the boys and AP we gave it our all (as we have in almost every game this season) but they just had a little more class than us when it counted, It hurts to say it but its true. In a couple of years things will be very different I think. Edited 13 February, 2010 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 But you're not saying what should be done differently. What's the solution other than sign better players and give them time to gel into a team? Thank you, well, firstly I ain't on the coaching staff, so don't know the players on a daily basis. However I really think we have some great players, even without the new signings. We had enough to beat these hated skates. And surely enough, at least not to throw it away. What we have is a major problem conceding goals from about 65 minutes onwards...so you talk about on the training ground and in the player 'debriefing' (I assume AP debriefs the team). After 40 games you should be discovering why it happens...stamina, lack of confidence, over-zealous attacking, lack of awareness. If the players are not fit enough you do a WGS. If they are not confident enough then youpositively reinforce them and if they are not aware then damn well make them aware...I think thw problem is probably and quite unbelievably AP is not aware!! If you catch us once and try us again then and do not, more fool you, if you catch us out once and then catch us out again then more fool us huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Actually i had plenty to say as well as the insults but you ignored the post 2 up from the insult post which completely ripped apart your argument!! If you played then surely you know that if your playing a team with more talent than you and you commit everyone forward in search of an equalizer, youre gonna get caught!!!! no blame can be put on the manager Huh, we were level...last time I looked we were at 1-1 (after equalizing another LATE goal) then we went ahead let in another three LATE goals, just like we have all too often in August, September, October, November, December and January in the league, in the LC, in the JPT and in (or should I say out?) the FA Cup. Tell me I'm wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Wrong - this is a season long problem FACT!! It should be JPT - post match and on the open threads FFS. With all due respect if you cannot see the enormity of this problem, then talk to someone that has coached/managed decent side or just wake up (no insult intended). There is one constant in the points you make in this thread, Tim, and the fact that it has been a season long issue. We were playing the very defenders that have made this a season long issue. I don't know whether you read my earlier post, but this tendancy has been addressed with the signing of better quality defenders, and players to cover positions throughout the squad, few of which could play today, as they were cup-tied. There were two other variables that couldn't be acounted for with today's match. 1] Pompey are a premiership team, and were playing on a premiership quality pitch, and 2] our old defenders actually played superbly, on the whole, and 3] AP took away one of them, in Perry and put on midfielder Holmes, as there was no point in defending 2-1 or 3-1. At least AP had the guts to try to win, instead of trying to just lose narrowly. I applaud him for that, and I'm proud of the whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I am sorry, but I for one will never forgive Pardew for this!! And before any of you think I'm being too harsh, are you going to tell me we couldn't have won, or at least not lost that (and many other) game(s). The writing was on the wall as early as September - it was still there with goals in this particular period of games later and it's still glaringly apparent now. This is an absolutely massive strategic/tactical problem and the problem falls firmly at the feet of the manager!! This is 100% unnacceptable and 100% avoidable - okay we, in FACT, should I say 'he' did not learn and we let in soft, late goal to say, Millwall or whatever, but this was pompee FFS Does he not realise the enormity of the situation and the consequence to the egos, psyches, pride etc to us - Southampton people. Haven't we eaten enough excrement already? We have had what? About 40 games this year to learn to shut up shop at the hour mark. These late goals are the singlemost important reason or factor that we will not be PROMOTED, that we were ELIMINATED from the League Cup, KNOCKED OUT of the FA Cup and may lose in the JPT!! If you don't believe me then do some research. Your support has been beyond belief, our new ownership is the best, we have a powerful, good footballing set of players...and a coaching staff that need to get a clue!! Yet again we had a team by the balls and could not squeeze. Enough already, must do better. Don't look at the skates - Don't look at the refs - Don't even look at the players - Look firmly at Pardew and maybe Wilkens etc. The buck stops there. If you're feeling as bad as I am right now, sorry Alan, but you're the only reason why!! crap post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 If you played then surely you know that if your playing a team with more talent than you and you commit everyone forward in search of an equalizer, youre gonna get caught!!!! no blame can be put on the manager And if you'd played you'd know that you don't need to "commit everyone forward in search of an equalizer" A) when you're only one down with fifteen minutes or so to go - or even two down with ten to go, B) when all the other side really has to offer is pace, C) when your defenders aren't quick enough to get back for the inevitable counter-attacks, and D) when you've been creating chance after chance without committing everyone forward. I don't agree with Tim's point and I'm VERY happy with the way we played for 70+ minutes - AP's tactics were spot on and decent finishing would have won it for us early. I am NOT happy that we over-committed by allowing Thomas to keep pushing up when he had no chance of getting back to stop the wide counter. I said on the second-half thread that this was "naive", and that's exactly the word AP used in his post-game. However, he watched it happen on his side of the pitch and didn't get the message through. Having said that. it's great to see that we clearly have the talent to compete and win at higher levels, and that the heart of the club is beating stronger than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 There is one constant in the points you make in this thread, Tim, and the fact that it has been a season long issue. We were playing the very defenders that have made this a season long issue. I don't know whether you read my earlier post, but this tendancy has been addressed with the signing of better quality defenders, and players to cover positions throughout the squad, few of which could play today, as they were cup-tied. There were two other variables that couldn't be acounted for with today's match. 1] Pompey are a premiership team, and were playing on a premiership quality pitch, and 2] our old defenders actually played superbly, on the whole, and 3] AP took away one of them, in Perry and put on midfielder Holmes, as there was no point in defending 2-1 or 3-1. At least AP had the guts to try to win, instead of trying to just lose narrowly. I applaud him for that, and I'm proud of the whole team. Fantastic reply mate....that is an extremely reasonable response and a valid explanation, with no playground insults, thank you. Maybe I am being too harsh tbf!! Just think, as a manager, maybe the last thing AP should say before they leave the dressing (especially at HT) is something like "Lads you have been great all season, we do however sometimes show vulnerability in the last quarter. Now we know you are GOOD enough and SMART enough to be aware and not let this happen today. Put yourselves between the opponent/ball and our goal and do not over-commit from the back later on!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Fantastic reply mate....that is an extremely reasonable response and a valid explanation, with no playground insults, thank you. Maybe I am being too harsh tbf!! Just think, as a manager, maybe the last thing AP should say before they leave the dressing (especially at HT) is something like "Lads you have been great all season, we do however sometimes show vulnerability in the last quarter. Now we know you are GOOD enough and SMART enough to be aware and not let this happen today. Put yourselves between the opponent/ball and our goal and do not over-commit from the back later on!" I think yu are being harsh. 65 minutes is not late. The goals in the 80th minute were late-ish. We were going for the win. If we had been sitting back, I would have agreed with you. We went all out, and it didn't pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 And if you'd played you'd know that you don't need to "commit everyone forward in search of an equalizer" A) when you're only one down with fifteen minutes or so to go - or even two down with ten to go, B) when all the other side really has to offer is pace, C) when your defenders aren't quick enough to get back for the inevitable counter-attacks, and D) when you've been creating chance after chance without committing everyone forward. I don't agree with Tim's point and I'm VERY happy with the way we played for 70+ minutes - AP's tactics were spot on and decent finishing would have won it for us early. I am NOT happy that we over-committed by allowing Thomas to keep pushing up when he had no chance of getting back to stop the wide counter. I said on the second-half thread that this was "naive", and that's exactly the word AP used in his post-game. However, he watched it happen on his side of the pitch and didn't get the message through. Having said that. it's great to see that we clearly have the talent to compete and win at higher levels, and that the heart of the club is beating stronger than ever. You do not need an equalizer when you are 1-1 with 15 mins left either do you mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I've been doing some research ad I've noticed that EVERY goal we have conceded this season has been between te 2nd and the 100th minute of play, ffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 If we were sitting back after going 2-1 down we wouldn't be feeling as proud as we do now - meaning, they would have showed a heartless performance and just resigned to the defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 If we were sitting back after going 2-1 down we wouldn't be feeling as proud as we do now - meaning, they would have showed a heartless performance and just resigned to the defeat. Agreed, but the discussion is about finding the right place between the extremes. I think we over-did it and that Pards should have adjusted, but I'm still very proud of my team. I think we all got the feeling in the first half that we've seen games like this many times before - score while you're on top or pay a harsh price later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponto1963 Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Completely over the top reaction, Tim you are usually quite sensible. Completely outclassed Premiership team for 50 minutes and should have been 2 or 3 up, but for some poor finishing and one or two saves by England's #1. Great reaction when Pompey scored. Their second wasn't even particularly late, we were still going for the win. The 3rd and 4th were down to going balls out for an equaliser. I seriously think you need to have a word with yourself and see that in fact we were ****ing good today. 3rd division v 1st division and it was difficult to tell which was which, but individual skill told in the end. Agreed, but for an unlucky offside, we were at 2-2 and still gunning for it. We showed passion. I feel very proud of Saints & AP today. We just caught by pace of their sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 we missed fonte at the back i think, our best defender! and we didnt take our chances, the game would have been over before pompey even scored the 1st goal if we had taken the chances. waigo, jaidi, lallana... 3 fantastic chances! u can miss that many against prem opposition when you are throwing everything forward u will inevitably get caught. im proud of how our players performed, blatant passion, good football at times. the reson we lost this one is not killing off the skates when we had the 3/4 chances. the 4-1 is what is gutting. we didnt deserve that. before the game we were the underdog, not expected to win. we tried our best, all u can ask! but when u look at 4-1 makes u feel sik! cos the players dont deserve that and it makes the skates actually look like they battered us when for 70% of this match league 1 southampton were ontop. late goals have been an issue but pardew has done nothing wrong today. i agree with comments that lambert should be in the box to score at corners. his own goal showed hes the 1 who can put the crosses home. but from this game we can be proud that we played well for the majority, tried our best and on another day could have embarrassed them with a shock win. it is the scoreline not the performance which f***s me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I think Tim's been hanging out with Alpine and Glasgow. Get a cup of tea, sit down and watch the six nations ffs. Honestly, some people's expectations are so unreasonable they will never be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 crap post Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points... So what's the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Reeeeeeeally, have we conceded goals in the 67, 50, 68, 82, 83, 77, 80, 90, 69, 65, 90, 65, 56, 73, 90, 66, 55, 77, 90, 90, 83, 50, 66, 75, 82 and 85 minutes just to name the odd 26 times so far this season, going back to the very first game...oh and by the way the majority of the very few 1st half goals we have let in have not cost us points... So what's the answer? Anything before the 75th minutes is not a late goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I've been doing some research ad I've noticed that EVERY goal we have conceded this season has been between te 2nd and the 100th minute of play, ffs... Sort of quality we all expect from you mush...none so blind as those that cannot see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Anything before the 75th minutes is not a late goal. For me a late goal is in the last 5-10 mins even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Anything before the 75th minutes is not a late goal. Do we have a problem conceding goals through the first hour of games, simple question? Do we have a problem conceding goals after the first hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 i have a problem conceding goals, we shouldnt concede ever, this is a fact, i know this because i coached once and live in america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Everything negative that has happened to us this year is because of one reason... and it is not the 10 points - not injuries - not lack of money or backing - not having to play nippers - not lack of fantastic support, but because AP has failed to address a problem that has been slapping him in the face for almost six months or about 40 games. Believe it, if we now go to Wembley and fail to win against a very average Carlisle, it will be because AP is strategically failing to address a major malfunction and they will score critically after the hour mark. I have often read your posts. Never again, You are a fecking idiot. You've been in America too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I think Tim's been hanging out with Alpine and Glasgow. Get a cup of tea, sit down and watch the six nations ffs. Honestly, some people's expectations are so unreasonable they will never be happy. Enough already, peace please. Yes, we played well, no I did not have unrealistic expectations. Predicted we'd lose 1-3. But here is the punchline(s) 1. We were the better team easily for over an hour - maybe the whole game. The players were great, no one is prouder of them than me. My frustration is that we squandered a fantastic opportunity due to AP not addressing our 'all too sickening' habit of conceding goals during a specific period of the game, you cannot fail to recognise that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Everything negative that has happened to us this year is because of one reason... and it is not the 10 points - not injuries - not lack of money or backing - not having to play nippers - not lack of fantastic support, but because AP has failed to address a problem that has been slapping him in the face for almost six months or about 40 games. Believe it, if we now go to Wembley and fail to win against a very average Carlisle, it will be because AP is strategically failing to address a major malfunction and they will score critically after the hour mark. Carlisle beat MK Dons 5-0 today and have just beaten Leeds to get to Wembley, so I think that, in the context of the division we are in, that makes them a pretty good side rather than a pretty average side. Look, you are upset because we lost, we all are upset, but this is not the end of life as we know it, we are still work in progress and, and I may be the only one, will reserve judgement until nest season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 You're still a d!ck. i have a problem conceding goals, we shouldnt concede ever, this is a fact, i know this because i coached once and live in america. Do you have a constructive contribution to make with your third and final post of the day or is this as good as it gets from you? Don't bother answering that. Disagree with him by all means but at least try not to come across as a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 I have often read your posts. Never again, You are a fecking idiot. You've been in America too long. What this you and percy have some sort of anti-American agenda, fair enough takes all sorts, even bigots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Fantastic reply mate....that is an extremely reasonable response and a valid explanation, with no playground insults, thank you. Maybe I am being too harsh tbf!! Just think, as a manager, maybe the last thing AP should say before they leave the dressing (especially at HT) is something like "Lads you have been great all season, we do however sometimes show vulnerability in the last quarter. Now we know you are GOOD enough and SMART enough to be aware and not let this happen today. Put yourselves between the opponent/ball and our goal and do not over-commit from the back later on!" I'm sure he says something like that to his players every time, Tim. In AP's post match comments, he said that we did commit forward quite naively later on, so he knew what and how we were chasing the game. Once you equalise, there is no point in tightening up on a FA Cup game when your defenders are getting tired. You go forward in the hope of winning. The fact that we piled forward like a cavalry was a bit naive, if exciting to watch, and we certainly didn't want a replay. We don't need the dosh, and so we went for it. Frankly, I'm glad it's out of the way, so that we cn concentrate on pushing or the play-offs. I think they are possibly out of reach now, but there's certainly no harm in seeing how close we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 (edited) What this you and percy have some sort of anti-American agenda, fair enough takes all sorts, even bigots. They've been reading too many St George posts. EDIT: BTW, I think you really should forgive Alan Pardew. Edited 13 February, 2010 by St Landrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Carlisle beat MK Dons 5-0 today and have just beaten Leeds to get to Wembley, so I think that, in the context of the division we are in, that makes them a pretty good side rather than a pretty average side. Look, you are upset because we lost, we all are upset, but this is not the end of life as we know it, we are still work in progress and, and I may be the only one, will reserve judgement until nest season. Panda, great post...yes I am upset. The players - the staff, yeah they wanted to win. Guess what though, pretty well all of them earn more in a week than you in a couple of months for doing something most of us would give a right nad to do and it's you guys that will be down...and taking large portions of grief from those lot down the road for altogether too long, yet again - because of lack of strategic awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 What this you and percy have some sort of anti-American agenda, fair enough takes all sorts, even bigots. 78% of Americans don't own a passport and most of them have never left their own state... and today you sound the same. Any sane fan knows that today our players played their hearts out, dominating a Premiership team for 70%+ of the game. We were undone by players twice as fast as ours, paid ten times as much from a club that is trading insolvent and shouldn't even be in fecking existence. Get your head out of your arse and applaud a superb effort against a team two leagues higher than us whose best player by a country mile was the England goalkeeper. He made three world class saves to keep us from winning the game - or at least being 2 nil up. You sound like an Iowa farmhand. Stop now before you regret it in years to come when noone takes you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Now just a cotton-picking minute, SD, Tim coaches a girls' team in the USA, I'll have you know. Well done..........10 out of 10 in the art of 'Condescending' =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 78% of Americans don't own a passport and most of them have never left their own state... and today you sound the same. Any sane fan knows that today our players played their hearts out, dominating a Premiership team for 70%+ of the game. We were undone by players twice as fast as ours, paid ten times as much from a club that is trading insolvent and shouldn't even be in fecking existence. Get your head out of your arse and applaud a superb effort against a team two leagues higher than us whose best player by a country mile was the England goalkeeper. He made three world class saves to keep us from winning the game - or at least being 2 nil up. You sound like an Iowa farmhand. Stop now before you regret it in years to come when noone takes you seriously. Seriously ill-informed post, by someone with latent bigotry issues...fair enough, takes all sorts. At least your open about it so we can see what we're dealing with. Talking about 'regret', that is the cherry on top mate. btw, some very fine people that work farms in Iowa, despite what your bigotry is telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 what's the point in over-analysing it?? it's simple - we were beaten because of their pace and finishing, not because of a tactical error or a players mistake. They have much better players than us, end of - once we were in a position where they could hit us on the break, we were in trouble. That is why we are 2 divisions apart (even though it pains me to say it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Why does this tosser, Tijuana Tim always believe his opinions are too important to go on the relevant threads? I am sick of him always starting a new thread to talk about things when there are lots of threads already going. Rope your ego in and post on the match reaction thread, just like other people reacting to the match. Yet another cyber hard man...this is not simply a post match comment. This is an observation of what has happened to the 09-10 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 "I have played competetively for well over 40 years and still play Saturdays and Sundays with men half my age. I do drink, smoke, I am a vegetarian and (semi) fast on Mondays to maximize my fitness, stamina and fatigue recovery. I have played for and with this very site's team...ask Steve, Rabbit and the rest how I performed as it not for me to say. Gained my first FA coaching credentials at 24 years old and was a Hants Div I first team manager/head coach by 27, with one of the biggest clubs in Hants/Wessex scene. After emigrating to the US I have continued to top up my coaching certifications." Completely irrelevant!! This was a response/reply not statement, do keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2010 Share Posted 13 February, 2010 Seriously ill-informed post, by someone with latent bigotry issues...fair enough, takes all sorts. At least your open about it so we can see what we're dealing with. Talking about 'regret', that is the cherry on top mate. btw, some very fine people that work farms in Iowa, despite what your bigotry is telling you. The Guardian... "...says that by the beginning of the next decade we will take 117 million holidays per year, compared to 59 million last year, the first time the entire population averaged one foreign holiday. In comparison, just 22% of Americans own a passport...." Now, can we agree you are bang out of order? And I suspect Iowa farmhands work very hard and are fine people. I also suspect they know feck all about 'soccer'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 They've been reading too many St George posts. EDIT: BTW, I think you really should forgive Alan Pardew. Good point, two strikes then mate...just do not let us lose to goals after the hour mark at Wembley FFS I really, positively DO NOT want to say 'I told you so' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 13 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2010 The Guardian... "...says that by the beginning of the next decade we will take 117 million holidays per year, compared to 59 million last year, the first time the entire population averaged one foreign holiday. In comparison, just 22% of Americans own a passport...." Now, can we agree you are bang out of order? And I suspect Iowa farmhands work very hard and are fine people. I also suspect they know feck all about 'soccer'.... If I pick out something from a very minority, random news source here are we going to treat it as FACT? You 'suspect', that means the same as you guess or in English 'you do not know', so stop trying to back track. You're 'in America', 'Iowa farm hand' derision is clear to see...Oh and btw, there will be the odd person employed in farming from the fine state of Iowa that has forgotten more aboutfootball/soccer whatever than you have ever known...so quit the back-tracking and be counted for what you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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