Saints V Skates - Afters.

[Block 5]

I had a great day.

 

The game was intense and the atmosphere at SMS was amazing; you can only get that kind of atmosphere at a derby game.

 

On the pitch we matched them for 75% of the game, and gave a good account of ourselves; the scoreline flattered the visitors.

 

We were undone because 75% of our defense were donkeys; but we all knew that they would struggle against the acceleration and speed of the poopey counter attack. As others have stated in this thread our defenders were redeemed for most of the match by our midfield.

 

Just a quick thought on Rickie taking corners...... I would hazard a guess that AP sees RL and AL as our best delivery men, but RL lacks the pace to get back and defend opposition counter attacks, whereas AL can get back quickly which we saw him do yesterday. Hence AL is left in a position where he can get back, and does not take the corners.

I would expect to see LJ taking the set pieces when he is on the pitch..... incidentally, why wasn't he in the team?

[Barry the Badger]

if you are going to make excuses and are happy when we've just been dicked at home by a poor skates side then you need help.

 

Good to see the losing mentality at the club still exists within the fan base after a defeat against our local rivals, it's all ok they tried....yay!

 

Tell that to the skates tomorrow at work, it won't change the history books you happy clappy bastard.

 

I would rather be "happy clappy" than miserable like you.

 

I am absolutely f*cking gutted, frustrated, annoyed and not looking forward to monday at work at all. The difference is that I have the intelligence to put that to one side and recognise what a performance the players put in yesterday, we were quality but we got caught out at the end.

 

Of course I want better, I don't WANT us to lose 4-1 to those dirty fish fiddling w*nkers. But I'm also realistic enough to realise that there was nothing more the players could have done yesterday, Pompey may be a poor premiership side, but they are still a premiership side.

 

Although you will no doubt say the final score is all that matters, things are never black and white, and yesterday was about so much more than that.

[Legod Third Coming]

the morning after............. hmm mostly happy with our performance, i think we were undone by having two centre backs that couldnt do a 100 yards in 12 mins let alone 12 secs... but if only we had taken our chances in the first half when we WERE the better side. Overall im very proud..

 

I don't believe there is a centre back in the land who could recover from being turned on the halfway line with the striker running on already moving in the right direction, especially when the strikers are pacy and powerful.

 

We could have fielded Usain Bolt and with the quality of O'Hara's ball for the third goal we would still have been screwed.

 

The reality is they got lucky with the first and second goals, Kelvin made the third easy and I'd lost interest in watching the 4th this morning...

[shurlock]

I would expect to see LJ taking the set pieces when he is on the pitch..... incidentally, why wasn't he in the team?

 

Coz he's crap. We have hammond/morgan at CM, Antonio at RM and Otsemobor/Thomas at RB. Possibly he might have gone to RB yesterday but its not like he's much quicker than Thomas and it was pace/power that undid us. I've seen James skinned more times than Thomas at the back.

[SFC Forever]

After a very long day yesterday - 4-hours in the car, 3-hours in the pub, the quickest 90-minutes I can recall, another hour and a half in the pub followed by another 4-hours in the car, and waching the FACup highlights (sadist that I am) I have the following thoughts:

1) I could not believe the intensity of the noise inside SMS until watching the highlights.

2) W******d is a w*nker

3) They have a very nasty minority hell bent on trouble (outside Entrance A after the game)

4) James got lucky at least 3-times before they scored

5) Barnard so desperate to score - he cost us an equaliser (sorry Lee)

6) The Itchen really rocked

7) I thought we were immense for 70-mins - and tired

When Antonio comes off the right wing to take long throws on the left - why doesn't someone cover the right side of the field? Three of their goals came from the same error.

9) Pompey really got out of jail - Kelving nearly stopped two of their efforts - although I thought he was a bit at fault for the first and third.

10) I had mated from all over saying we were the better team for much of the game

11) Proud to be a Saint

12) Forget about JPT until March 27th - onwards and upwards

13) Will the team stay together next season?

14) Fantastic day out - spoilt my a few mongs from down the M27

15) Yesterday demonstrates to me why we don't want to be ny part of The Premier League...had to queue for toilets, rush my drink - and then leg it to a pub before they locked us out!

 

Having been there I would love to know how the atmosphere came across for those who had to watch the TV...

 

Even at 3-1 down it seemed to be rocking around us!

 

 

Have to agree with you over Antonio and Davis. I was actually hoping that Bart would play. I was in the Chapel and agree that Davis should have done better.The toilet and drinks situation has to be looked at closely. The club wants us to fill the ground but these facilities are hardlyfit for the small crowds of last year.

[broncoboy]

Pompey were kept in the games by James and though they had some quality players they showed little commitment till they were ahead.

 

Pompey were really poor.

 

We gave them a game and the scoreline does really flatter.

Our team needs to get their heads together and put in some great results to get us back into contention of a play off place.

 

Finishing way off the playoff places will be a poor result.

 

The JPT final wont be a push over either

[Wilko]

Devastated

[doggface]

I would rather be "happy clappy" than miserable like you.

 

I am absolutely f*cking gutted, frustrated, annoyed and not looking forward to monday at work at all. The difference is that I have the intelligence to put that to one side and recognise what a performance the players put in yesterday, we were quality but we got caught out at the end.

 

Of course I want better, I don't WANT us to lose 4-1 to those dirty fish fiddling w*nkers. But I'm also realistic enough to realise that there was nothing more the players could have done yesterday, Pompey may be a poor premiership side, but they are still a premiership side.

 

Although you will no doubt say the final score is all that matters, things are never black and white, and yesterday was about so much more than that.

 

the final score is all that matters.

 

no but really it is I would happily not made one chance in the 90 and one gone in of waigos arse.

 

Yes there are positives to take from the game & I'm not miserable (really), I'm just being honest and calling it as I see it. We lacked discipline & that's why we lost.

[warsash saint]

Sad skate b*stards

 

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[Brussels Saint]

Thought yesterday showed why we can be proud of our club again. Atmosphere in the stadium was exceptional. Score was a joke as we were the much better side for 75mins. Thought AL, just about shaded it for MOTM from Perry & Ricky, but every Saints player was superb today. the heart in that performance was brilliant. Loved the way we bossed the midfield too and Spider/Hammond should get a lot of credit.

 

Fair play, Pompey are poor.

[Window Cleaner]

Coz he's crap. We have hammond/morgan at CM, Antonio at RM and Otsemobor/Thomas at RB. Possibly he might have gone to RB yesterday but its not like he's much quicker than Thomas and it was pace/power that undid us. I've seen James skinned more times than Thomas at the back.

 

 

as I said yesterday, midfielders don't take corners or free kicks in our set up, I have no idea why. I have heard the theory expounded on occasions that it

puts them out of the game if the move breaks down and the opposition surge forward. I'm sure that Morgan,Deano and Antonio can take good dead ball kicks but that AP doesn't want them too.Morgan used to take free kicks and penalties for the French U20s, it's the managers choice more than anything else.

 

On to other things. I watch my recording again this morning and noticed that for our first clear cut chance it's Lambert that provides the cross to Waigo after he is fed out on the left by Lallana, found that a bit strange because in theory Antonio should have been out there and Rickie in the box to nod it in.

Antonio is a good wingman but where he was on that occasion i don't know, I'll have to look again.

 

Edit. I've had a look and see that Antonio is coming back towards our half when Deano and Morgan break down the Pompey attack and send Lallana forward, but he doesn't turn instantly and go forward,for some reason or other he jogs back towards our own goal a few strides.

Edited 14 February, 2010 by Window Cleaner

[Saint Fan CaM]

* Scoreline flattered them - James kept them in the game - we made them look poor until almost 80th minute.

 

* Poor finishing on our part let them get away with it and Lallana probably had the best chance.

 

* I thought Antonio had an OK game, but he is young and I could see he was almost cramping up with the tension of the game early on.

 

* Our backline was weakened by Thomas and Perry. I would have had Thomas in the middle to start and James at RB (that would also have meant Lambert was not taking the long free-kicks and corners).

 

* Our goal came from Lambert on the end of a free-kick he did not take. Does this not indicate he is better in the box than not???

 

* I predicted they would hit us on the break late in the game and that is what happened. I feel gutted on the one hand, but proud to be a Saint and looking forward to seeing the rest of the season with a full strength squad, including Wembley.

 

* And right now, I do NOT subscribe to the "I don't want Pimpley to go bust" sentiment. I want them to hurt as much as it can hurt and that will be for their poxy little sh*thole of a club to fade into oblivion. I want that now more than I want us to beat them. So come 1st March I will be praying that the HRMC has some gonads and shuts them right down.

 

COYR!!!

[Window Cleaner]

* their poxy little sh*thole of a club to fade into oblivion. I want that now more than I want us to beat them. So come 1st March I will be praying that the HRMC has some gonads and shuts them right down.

 

COYR!!!

 

 

Someone has to become an example for all the others, with a bit of luck it will be them,

[krissyboy31]

* Scoreline flattered them - James kept them in the game - we made them look poor until almost 80th minute.

 

* Poor finishing on our part let them get away with it and Lallana probably had the best chance.

 

* I thought Antonio had an OK game, but he is young and I could see he was almost cramping up with the tension of the game early on.

 

* Our backline was weakened by Thomas and Perry. I would have had Thomas in the middle to start and James at RB (that would also have meant Lambert was not taking the long free-kicks and corners).

 

* Our goal came from Lambert on the end of a free-kick he did not take. Does this not indicate he is better in the box than not???

 

* I predicted they would hit us on the break late in the game and that is what happened. I feel gutted on the one hand, but proud to be a Saint and looking forward to seeing the rest of the season with a full strength squad, including Wembley.

 

* And right now, I do NOT subscribe to the "I don't want Pimpley to go bust" sentiment. I want them to hurt as much as it can hurt and that will be for their poxy little sh*thole of a club to fade into oblivion. I want that now more than I want us to beat them. So come 1st March I will be praying that the HRMC has some gonads and shuts them right down.

 

COYR!!!

 

I agree with pretty much all of that, although I think the reason Thomas was at RB was that he is the quickest of all of the defenders we had available for the game. If Quincy and Belhadj were beating him for pace into the box, they would have been away from James within 10 meters of the halfway line.

[CWD]

They cant go bust now, we need to beat them whilst we pass them on our way up the leagues..

[tpbury]

They were lethal on the break because of their pace, and we did exactly the right thing at 1-2 playing the long ball game. Just got unlucky.

 

The inevitable jeering will now come from those who only read the scoreline, saying we were rubbish or battered. But we know in our heart of hearts that possibly we looked just as good as them for the first 75 minutes.

 

Loads of ifs about that game, a shame, but we really need the players to get over it, and now concentrate on getting the feel good factor back to the league by WINNING instead of drawing.

 

We'll smash Carlisle in the cup final too.

 

Hey BS - I saw the use of the word "smash" and though you must me Ozzie, and so you are! I think it's a great term! I just logged on, hoping to watch the match live on FilmOn, but have apparently missed it by between 2 to 24 hours, whatever.

 

Did we lose then? Nevermind, JPT is king, playoffs is queen, and promotion next year is emperor!

[Window Cleaner]

Apparently all the players were in bar31 (winchester) last night. Dont exactly know what they were celebrating.....

 

their fine performance or getting to Wembley on Tuesday??

[krissyboy31]

Apparently all the players were in bar31 (winchester) last night. Dont exactly know what they were celebrating.....

 

Look at it another way. AP probably told them to go out and get it out of their system. I know I needed a few beers last night and I certainly wasn't celebrating.

[John B]

Look at it another way. AP probably told them to go out and get it out of their system. I know I needed a few beers last night and I certainly wasn't celebrating.

 

They did well to get to 5th Round the only League 1 club there.

[Window Cleaner]

Look at it another way. AP probably told them to go out and get it out of their system. I know I needed a few beers last night and I certainly wasn't celebrating.

 

Strange that the English idea of getting anything out of your system is by going out on the p*ss though.

[krissyboy31]

Strange that the English idea of getting anything out of your system is by going out on the p*ss though.

 

I think there's a difference between going out for a few beers and going on the p!ss. If they got completely trollied then they deserve to be slagged off for it but nobody has suggested that, have they?

[macthesaint]

Cant get it out of my head that they can have so many loan players when they are skint and make no effort to field whatever young homegrown players they may have.

Work will be carp tomorrow but Im still proud of the Saints.

[ottery st mary]

I think there's a difference between going out for a few beers and going on the p!ss. If they got completely trollied then they deserve to be slagged off for it but nobody has suggested that, have they?

 

 

I am reliably informed they were all drinking Barbicannnn...As Sir Lawrie of Southampton would say...

[LostBoys]

A fair number on their web site are saying they are pleased if that was their last game - it wont be I think they have got 2 more

[Window Cleaner]

A fair number on their web site are saying they are pleased if that was their last game - it wont be I think they have got 2 more

 

What are the odds on them not being wound up?? Because that is the world's safest bet, if the bookies give odds on it it's free money.Portsmouth will not be wound up because either HMRC won't have the balls to do it or either the Premier League or Chainrai will bail them out.

[alpine_saint]

What are the odds on them not being wound up?? Because that is the world's safest bet, if the bookies give odds on it it's free money.Portsmouth will not be wound up because either HMRC won't have the balls to do it or either the Premier League or Chainrai will bail them out.

 

I reckon HMRC will do it without blinking.

 

But I do think that oily toerag Scudamore at the PL will manage to wrange a parachute money advance.

[Webby]

Well, I thought we played pretty well especially in the first half. Losing was no surprise to me though and I had in my mind a 1-3 defeat.

 

However, there are a couple of things that concerned me and they've probably be discussed already but here's my 2p worth:

 

1) Why is Lambert taking free kicks and corners? If he's taking them, he can't be on the end of them. I don't get it. It's not even as if any of his kicks were very good. Surely, someone else, you know, like, another professional footballer could've taken them. The moment we go behind, Harding takes a free kick. Result? Lambert meets it, goal.

 

2) The way we conceded the last 3 goals. For me, it's not that they were late as discussed in that other thread, but that they were scored on the counter attack. We can talk about what could've been done about each goal but that's not my point here. My point is that as the second half started, it was clear that pompey were trying to counter at pace. James was releasing the ball more quickly and they were leaving a man out wide. I saw it, so why didn't Pards do something about it?

 

Anyway, like I said, I wasn't shocked we lost. I just hope we learn something from it.

[Window Cleaner]

I reckon HMRC will do it without blinking.

 

But I do think that oily toerag Scudamore at the PL will manage to wrange a parachute money advance.

 

Gordon Brown was moaning about football debt the other day, he should instruct HMRC to make an example of Skate unless they pay in full their debt to the nations revenues, don't care about Gaydamak,Chainrai or Sol Cambell though.

[S-Clarke]

I reckon HMRC will do it without blinking.

 

But I do think that oily toerag Scudamore at the PL will manage to wrange a parachute money advance.

 

you're right, the PL will help them out. God help their lovely little league being given a bad image.

[krissyboy31]

My point is that as the second half started, it was clear that pompey were trying to counter at pace. James was releasing the ball more quickly and they were leaving a man out wide. I saw it, so why didn't Pards do something about it?

 

Not sure with the personnel we had available he could have done much about it other than telling Jaidi, Thomas and Harding to sit back at set pieces. A lot of people were questioning AP's signings of Otsemobor and Seaborne but they do add a bit more pace to an otherwise pedestrian back line.

[thorpie the sinner]

If the premier league helped them out, I believe it is on the proviso of administration!! they will then be relegated and not the PL's problem!!!

[Webby]

Not sure with the personnel we had available he could have done much about it other than telling Jaidi, Thomas and Harding to sit back at set pieces. A lot of people were questioning AP's signings of Otsemobor and Seaborne but they do add a bit more pace to an otherwise pedestrian back line.

 

Harding could've stayed back.

[CanadaSaint]

2) The way we conceded the last 3 goals. For me, it's not that they were late as discussed in that other thread, but that they were scored on the counter attack. We can talk about what could've been done about each goal but that's not my point here. My point is that as the second half started, it was clear that pompey were trying to counter at pace. James was releasing the ball more quickly and they were leaving a man out wide. I saw it, so why didn't Pards do something about it?

 

Absolutely.

 

And that suicidal trend unfolded right in front of Pards but he didn't seem to adjust.

 

Sure I'm proud of my team but I'm not going to let that blind me to the fact that we weren't "beaten by a Prem team" so much as threw it away with missed chances and defensive stupidity.

[OldNick]

you're right, the PL will help them out. God help their lovely little league being given a bad image.

if they help them they should immediately give them -9 points, as there is not a level playing field. To take the parachute payment early is an admission of relegation. This way the PL would fulfill the fixtures and of course if any criminal activity is going on then the authorities could act. Pompey were 1 of the first clubs to gain from going into admin without getting penalised, the odds seem to be that they will be the first who should be bankrupt but hte PL bail them out only for a rule change to stop it happening agian.

[PhilB]

Scoreline definitely flattered them. Came away from the ground very disappointed but not gutted, half expected to lose anyway. We played some good football in the first half and it was difficult to see the gap in the league positions between us and them.

 

Never mind won't be long before the balance tips in our favour once again.

 

looking forward to Wewmbley...that's something the Skates can't say

[benjii]

Thought yesterday showed why we can be proud of our club again. Atmosphere in the stadium was exceptional. Score was a joke as we were the much better side for 75mins. Thought AL, just about shaded it for MOTM from Perry & Ricky, but every Saints player was superb today. the heart in that performance was brilliant. Loved the way we bossed the midfield too and Spider/Hammond should get a lot of credit.

 

Fair play, Pompey are poor.

 

Agree with this.

 

Gutted for our players as they didn't deserve to lose 4-1.

 

Until Skates' goal James kept them in the match. On another day Lallana's header goes in and so does the chance from the corner in the first half.

 

Lallana was exceptional and everyone played well. Antonio showed he can give a Prem defender trouble. Lambert bossed their defence.

 

I really enjoyed the whole day despite the score, it confirmed two things to me:

 

1 - Pompey are definitely getting relegated, irrespective of the financial position; they are really not very good at all.

 

2 - Saints is the team on the south coast with the bright future.

[derry]

Absolutely.

 

And that suicidal trend unfolded right in front of Pards but he didn't seem to adjust.

 

Sure I'm proud of my team but I'm not going to let that blind me to the fact that we weren't "beaten by a Prem team" so much as threw it away with missed chances and defensive stupidity.

 

My view of it Bill is that the scoring on the break was predictable, as Pompey are struggling in the Premier, their game is built on battling, soaking up pressure and hitting on the break.

 

Knowing that, we should have retained our back four across the halfway line. We aren't the quickest at the back, so giving Pompey the room to exploit it wasn't sensible. A number of times this season we have been technically out-thought and we need to get a handle on that.

 

If we can continue to play the same way as the first 75 minutes we could have an exciting season.

 

The last two teams selected were right, against MKD we tucked in the wide players at half time which stifled our passing, we didn't yesterday which was good. If Pardew resists his natural negativity and gives it a go we might make the play offs.

[derry]

if they help them they should immediately give them -9 points, as there is not a level playing field. To take the parachute payment early is an admission of relegation. This way the PL would fulfill the fixtures and of course if any criminal activity is going on then the authorities could act. Pompey were 1 of the first clubs to gain from going into admin without getting penalised, the odds seem to be that they will be the first who should be bankrupt but hte PL bail them out only for a rule change to stop it happening agian.

 

I doubt they can do it Nick, There will be as many teams against it as for and I wouldn't be surprised that the seven not affected would oppose it.

[benjii]

Will be interesting to see how we line up next wkend with Puncheon available. Think I would give Antonio a rest, move Lallana to the right and play Puncheon wide left.

[derry]

Will be interesting to see how we line up next wkend with Puncheon available. Think I would give Antonio a rest, move Lallana to the right and play Puncheon wide left.

 

I've heard that is the intention but not which side. The other alternative is leave the front two and put Puncheon in beside Hammond as an attacking MF.

[SFC Forever]

Gordon Brown was moaning about football debt the other day, he should instruct HMRC to make an example of Skate unless they pay in full their debt to the nations revenues, don't care about Gaydamak,Chainrai or Sol Cambell though.

 

According th the FA the idea was broached by Westb Ham and turned down flat.

[CanadaSaint]

My view of it Bill is that the scoring on the break was predictable, as Pompey are struggling in the Premier, their game is built on battling, soaking up pressure and hitting on the break.

 

Knowing that, we should have retained our back four across the halfway line. We aren't the quickest at the back, so giving Pompey the room to exploit it wasn't sensible. A number of times this season we have been technically out-thought and we need to get a handle on that.

 

If we can continue to play the same way as the first 75 minutes we could have an exciting season.

 

The last two teams selected were right, against MKD we tucked in the wide players at half time which stifled our passing, we didn't yesterday which was good. If Pardew resists his natural negativity and gives it a go we might make the play offs.

 

Dave, I sat here ready to scream at about 7:00 am because the recipe for the loss was there for all to see. We're a better side playing on the front foot with width and support, and that showed in the first hour. We're a very vulnerable side when we allow people to push forward with abandon when they can't get back, and we have a few of them. I used the word "naive" in the second half thread, and Pardew used it after the match. But he didn't seem to do anything as it unfolded in front of him, so who's naivety was it?

 

Yes, put the Pompey loss behind us and play like we did in the first hour and the rest of the season is going to be fun.

 

Play like we did in the last fifteen and it'll be a nightmare.

 

Thank God we have some back four pace coming back for the league games.

[Window Cleaner]

I doubt they can do it Nick, There will be as many teams against it as for and I wouldn't be surprised that the seven not affected would oppose it.

 

If Pompey go out of business during the season all their results are wiped out

so points totals will change, some will gain, others will lose.All the other Premiership clubs will be influenced by that.

The few clubs having lost to Pompey would want it to happen as the results of all the others having beaten them would be

reduced to the same result 0 points.

[derry]

Dave, I sat here ready to scream at about 7:00 am because the recipe for the loss was there for all to see. We're a better side playing on the front foot with width and support, and that showed in the first hour. We're a very vulnerable side when we allow people to push forward with abandon when they can't get back, and we have a few of them. I used the word "naive" in the second half thread, and Pardew used it after the match. But he didn't seem to do anything as it unfolded in front of him, so who's naivety was it?

 

Yes, put the Pompey loss behind us and play like we did in the first hour and the rest of the season is going to be fun.

 

Play like we did in the last fifteen and it'll be a nightmare.

 

Thank God we have some back four pace coming back for the league games.

 

I sit reasonably close to Pardew and now and again he makes the odd gesture but most of the time he makes notes. There are times he needs to change things and doesn't.

 

Colchester and Brighton were typical, he anticipated battling against big men and picked that sort of side. They played nippy strikers but we didn't change and were beaten.

[benjii]

I've heard that is the intention but not which side. The other alternative is leave the front two and put Puncheon in beside Hammond as an attacking MF.

 

That would be interesting but I think our next match is Norwich away (?) and I reckon we might wait for an "easier" fixture before trying out such an attacking line-up.

 

At least we have some options anyway.

[derry]

If Pompey go out of business during the season all their results are wiped out

so points totals will change, some will gain, others will lose.All the other Premiership clubs will be influenced by that.

The few clubs having lost to Pompey would want it to happen as the results of all the others having beaten them would be

reduced to the same result 0 points.

 

Utd, Arsenal, 6 West Ham 4 especially. Liverpool 0 only two going down. I can see writs flying if they try to do it.

[derry]

That would be interesting but I think our next match is Norwich away (?) and I reckon we might wait for an "easier" fixture before trying out such an attacking line-up.

 

At least we have some options anyway.

 

I think we have to go for it but as Pardew is a bit safety first I can see the one or two centre backs plus Puncheon for Antonio.

[SNSUN]

Just got in from my Valentines weekend in Southampton with the girlfriend. Man we did a lot of walking, for two fat people.

 

Stayed in the Premier Inn, walking towards the town centre at about half ten on Saturday morning, we saw a load of the Skate fans being led towards the stadium. They then broke free of their Police captors and started running towards me and my other half (me in full Saints regalia), so I was pleased when they turned down New Road! Not that I was a bit scared, but I don't think the two of us would've stood much of a chance against the 50 or so Skates!

 

Got to the game, didn't see a lot of trouble before the match. As for the game, I thought it was evenly balanced, we were better in the first half, and half of the second, but it was clear our back line is getting on in years as the legs seemed to go.

 

Thought Lallana was superb, my MOTM for the second game in a row, though I think Pardew should perhaps have put James on in Antonio's place as we were getting murdered down the right. Favourite chant of the day was "You're Not Singing Anymore" after our equaliser but I refused to acknowledge the Skate chants!

 

We walked back to the hotel after the game and watched the aftermath from our bedroom window. It didn't look like there was too much trouble, although some Saints fans got turned on in the Six Dials subway by the look of things. I missed all the St Mary's ruckus though.

 

4-1 is a bitter pill to take, a score we're becoming all too familiar with in this fixture. Will we get another chance for a re-match?

[Wes Tender]

What are the odds on them not being wound up?? Because that is the world's safest bet, if the bookies give odds on it it's free money.Portsmouth will not be wound up because either HMRC won't have the balls to do it or either the Premier League or Chainrai will bail them out.

Why are you such an optimist that that it won't happen? Do you reckon that the HMRC are Skate fans? They will feel quite strongly I supect, that they need to make an example of a serial offender - pour encourager les autres.

 

And as for the Premier League bailing them out, they really can't do that without all of the other teams crying foul over it. The teams have to be responsible for their own finances and not expect the governing body of the league to bail out member teams who have been profligate with their expenditure.

 

Chainrai? Why would he put more in? He already has the spectre of losing pretty well everything he has already put in if the club go into administration or liquidation. Why exactly would he want to p*ss even more money down the drain? Face it, nobody is going to buy Pompey with their huge debts, crappy stadium and almost certain relegation. Some tyre kickers might however be interested in buying them from administration and run them as a Fizzy Pop league club. But the directors cannot place them in administration whilst under a winding-up order and neither would it be in their interests to do so anyway, as they will lose pretty all of the money that the club owes them. It is virtually the perfect example of them being caught between a rock and a hard place; in short, they're buggered.

[benjii]

HMRC want them wound up - there can be no doubt about that. If they didn't they wouldn't have served a winding up petition and their barrister wouldn't have gone for the jugular.

 

If the PL advance them some money then it has to come with a points deduction. This then means relegation and no parachtue payment = insolvency next year instead.