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Great night, great atmosphere created.

 

We seemed to have complete control until about the 40 minute mark at which point the dons started to make their way into the game, from what i saw this was due to their CB's beginning to win the ball off of Rickie in the air (which seems to be around 80% of our game lately)

 

Was good to see Hammond back, he had a good game last night, not the most technical of players but definately there to break up play and stifle the oppositions attacks and was what we have needed for a few games now.

 

Antonio just didn't impress me again, a couple of good runs but he is technically not very good, i hope we can mould him into a more complete player as he has a lot of rawness.

 

Lallana tried very hard tonight, what i like to see. You could see he gets 2 or 3 players against him whenever he is on the ball but deserved his goal tonight.

 

Fonte was calm and assured as usual and always organising from the back.

 

Waigo was my MOM though, masses of industry and pace, never allowed the back line to settle and i lost count on how many lost causes he managed to get ahold of. He definately looks a good prospect as a foil for Lambert and again has got me wondering why we have purchased Barnard ?? Waigo needs to start permanently here imo.

 

Best chant of the night ??? "You f*cking look like a wotsit" !! Brilliant

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On paper our players are good but something is still not gelling.

 

A lot of our problems are in the head. We have no composure and no leadership. Waigo and Antonio have good points but both are erratic - great coming off the bench but over 90 minutes both are light weight.

 

In my opinion , Wayne Thomas was an absolute disgrace - he should have been sent off tonight. Having been booked 5 mins earlier he then chose to run across the pitch to assault a MK player who had just committed a foul. He was a lucky person to stay on the pitch. At that point there was only 2 goals in it and with us down to 10 men, it could have been awkward. As an experienced pro he should have controlled himself and even as he went down the tunnel he had to be restrained from approaching Ince.

 

If ever this team needed a Jimmy Case/Alan Ball type figure it is now.

 

I do feel once we get this problem sorted we can build but at present we suddenly get shambolic under pressure.

 

Sorry to rain on a happy parade. It is marvellous that Southampton are going to have a day at Wembley but there remains an awful lot of work before we can be regarded as a solid outfit.

 

MK Dons were without their main forwards (Puncheon and Easter) and yet they still caused us awkward moments.

We flattered to deceive but now we are there I hope it is an enjoyable day - but if I was AP I would be far from relaxed tonight because there are still massive deficiencies in our makeup.

Duncan, almost totally agree with you about Thomas. His reaction was disgraceful and I thought he should have been sent off. BUT, and its a bit but, he was severly provoked by some awful behaviour by MK Dons players who quite frankly were also disgraceful. In Thomas's defence also he was just about the only player on the pitch that was actually showing some passion, hence his standing ovation when he was subbed just before full time.

 

The outcome of the night was feckin fantastic, but look beyond the result and the game was diabolical, and our defending was absolutely awful. Jaidi was terrible, and the panic that set in at the back when the ball was in our half was crazy. Our defence doesn't seem to know how to clear a ball, a hefty boot into Row Z is often what is needed to relieve some pressure - and playing multi-ball doesn't help IMHO.

 

I'd love to know the thinking why Lambert was taking the corners, he was winning every header all night yet he wasn't there when the ball was played in from the corner. I don't believe there is no-one else in the team who can take a decent corner.

 

Anyway que sera sera whatever will be will bee we're going to Wemberley que sera sera. 4th Cup Final at Wembley for me (didn't go to the Charity Shield in 76 have to admit).

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agreed, He looks alot more dangerous playing up front than out on the right.

 

also, he seems to have learned the offside rule.

 

I still can't belive he missed that sitter infront of the Northam though

 

The parallels with BWP are alarming and lets not forget that is the second glaring miss from Waigo this season from a few yards out. MOTM? Tot to big in that half time flask for some.

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What a brilliant night. I was my first solo trip to St Mary's, and I was loving every second, singing my heart out in the Chapel. I didn't even notice how cold it was, singing "We're going to Wemberley" was a special moment.

 

A great team performance, we looked a little shaky defensively, but otherwise ok. I haven't got time to do the ratings, but I thought Lallana played better than I've ever seen him play, Waigo was a handful up front, though was a bit hit and miss, Lambert was solid as ever and a good comeback for Hammond. Thomas nearly lost it at the end, I was sure that sending off was going to lead to a Red card which would have buggered us up a bit for Saturday, but the ref, who was poor IMO was, for once, lenient with him.

 

Looking forward to Wembley, I'm getting the day off even if tickets prove hard to come by. I'll beg steal or borrow dammit!

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That maybe so WS but what did he do with that advantage? All speed and tricks and little end product IMO.

 

No end product ?? He caused the Dons back line all sorts of problems all night last night, never let them settle at all and pulled them around all over the place leaving gaps for Lambert and Lallana to exploit.

 

He also set up Lambert for the first goal if i remember correctly and also won the ball and played a delightful ball across the 6 yard box from which the Dons CB could have scored another own goal before putting it out for a corner.

 

Similarities to BWP ?? Behave, BWP was a terrible player and i never saw him change a game in the red and white in the same way that Waigo has done when coming on from the bench nor cause the panic to a defence as Waigo did last night.

 

Waigo fully deserves the MOTM many on here have awarded him, sometimes i wonder if you write this nonsense just on the wind up ? :confused:

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I'd love to know the thinking why Lambert was taking the corners, he was winning every header all night yet he wasn't there when the ball was played in from the corner. I don't believe there is no-one else in the team who can take a decent corner.

 

I think it made perfect sense - James/Mills/Lallana have been taking corners as of late. And they've been truly shocking. Not to mention that neither James or Mills was playing yesterday. In contrast, Lambert takes a mean free-kick, so there's no reason why he can't deliver an accurate corner. Most important, we had plenty of presence in the box - Jaidi, Fonte, Thomas, Hammond even Papa (who's good at ghosting into positions).As such ensuring decent delivery was much more important than having one extra attacker.

 

While I can't see us playing that kind of physical side week in week out (esp Jaidi and Thomas), I would be inclined to continue to Lambert, esp if and if our normal corner takers are either missing or serving up dogsh*t.

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Congratualtions. I was chuffed to see Saints reach the final. For what it's worth, myself and a friend went to the JPT Final (Bristol Rovers V Doncaster) a few years back, and despite it being a "lesser cup", the day didn't reflect that. I really do hope for all Saints fans that you go on and win it. Best of luck. Tony

 

Wish Chris Moyles was as supportive. He said this morning that Carlisle played well and deserved to win and that hopes they win the final!

 

I liked him up until he said that. :(

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No end product ?? He caused the Dons back line all sorts of problems all night last night, never let them settle at all and pulled them around all over the place leaving gaps for Lambert and Lallana to exploit.

 

He also set up Lambert for the first goal if i remember correctly and also won the ball and played a delightful ball across the 6 yard box from which the Dons CB could have scored another own goal before putting it out for a corner.

 

Similarities to BWP ?? Behave, BWP was a terrible player and i never saw him change a game in the red and white in the same way that Waigo has done when coming on from the bench nor cause the panic to a defence as Waigo did last night.

 

Waigo fully deserves the MOTM many on here have awarded him, sometimes i wonder if you write this nonsense just on the wind up ? :confused:

 

Don't fret at Nineteen's response. It is a knee-jerk reaction to anybody who receives praise from the vast majority of Saints fans. Whether it is done purely to court controversy, or because there is something in his psyche that doesn't permit him to accept others praising an individual without some defensive attack mechanism kicking in is not clear.

 

Waigo completely deserves his moment in the spotlight based on last night's performance. He made the difference and caused all sorts of problems to their defence. B-WP is nowhere near as good as him as a player, or as a personality.

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Weston summed it up nicely for me. I was delighted with the team picked mainly because of Thomas at right back and Harding restored, together with Hammond in midfield. The best thing was the playing of Waigo who in my opinion was easily the best player on the pitch in his natural position, that together with Antonio on the right gave us pace up front.

 

We played them off the park in the first half and could have been out of sight. What I didn't like and in my opinion was the cause of the second half negativity, was the tucking in of Antonio and Lallana forcing us to hit balls straight at the front two which put us back to square one.

 

The manager, probably because of the criticism picked for once a team that wasn't a compromise which was great, but he should have left it to continue instead of going safety first. It is this compromising and negativity that is stopping us from being the side that we could be.

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That maybe so WS but what did he do with that advantage? All speed and tricks and little end product IMO.

 

Absolute rubbish. He terrorised their defence, made the first goal and caused the panic for the own goal. Granted the header looked harder to put wide than on target but easily the best player on the pitch.

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Absolute rubbish. He terrorised their defence, made the first goal and caused the panic for the home goal. Granted the header looked harder to put wide than on target but easily the best player on the pitch.

 

You have the advantage of knowing something about Saints, Football, Papa..:)

 

You also have the advantage of being at the game and supporting Saints:)

 

Some posters making comment on Papa .... obviously do not have your advantages;)

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Without doubt Kelvin Davis is a first class shotstopper but is deficient in most other areas. He doesn't dominate his goal area, looks tentative under pressure and when the ball is passed to him, his distribution is appalling and he only belts it long, the very thing we are trying not to do and only adds to the hoofball.

 

We need to build from the back, last night in the second half we hardly passed the ball at all. We need Davis to get his act together and start passing/throwing the ball to defenders who have to come looking for it, which doesn't happen, as he almost always delays and ignores options, to kick long which mostly gives the ball away.

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Duncan, almost totally agree with you about Thomas. His reaction was disgraceful and I thought he should have been sent off. BUT, and its a bit but, he was severly provoked by some awful behaviour by MK Dons players who quite frankly were also disgraceful. In Thomas's defence also he was just about the only player on the pitch that was actually showing some passion, hence his standing ovation when he was subbed just before full time.

 

The outcome of the night was feckin fantastic, but look beyond the result and the game was diabolical, and our defending was absolutely awful. Jaidi was terrible, and the panic that set in at the back when the ball was in our half was crazy. Our defence doesn't seem to know how to clear a ball, a hefty boot into Row Z is often what is needed to relieve some pressure - and playing multi-ball doesn't help IMHO.

 

I'd love to know the thinking why Lambert was taking the corners, he was winning every header all night yet he wasn't there when the ball was played in from the corner. I don't believe there is no-one else in the team who can take a decent corner.

 

Anyway que sera sera whatever will be will bee we're going to Wemberley que sera sera. 4th Cup Final at Wembley for me (didn't go to the Charity Shield in 76 have to admit).

 

Garbage IMO. The only panic came from the bed wetters in the stands. The team played a very professional and accomplished game of cup football.

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Without doubt Kelvin Davis is a first class shotstopper but is deficient in most other areas. He doesn't dominate his goal area, looks tentative under pressure and when the ball is passed to him, his distribution is appalling and he only belts it long, the very thing we are trying not to do and only adds to the hoofball.

 

We need to build from the back, last night in the second half we hardly passed the ball at all. We need Davis to get his act together and start passing/throwing the ball to defenders who have to come looking for it, which doesn't happen, as he almost always delays and ignores options, to kick long which mostly gives the ball away.

 

KD's distribution is excellent. It nearly always goes straight to Lambert. That is where it's supposed to go. Would you seriously prefer him to roll it to Thomas or Jaidi every time?

 

That's what he was instructed to do last season and it was garbage. This season he has clearly been instructed to look for Lambert. He finds him 90% of the time. Lambert dominated them in the air last night. We won 3-1. Well done for not mentioning width though.

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Without doubt Kelvin Davis is a first class shotstopper but is deficient in most other areas. He doesn't dominate his goal area, looks tentative under pressure and when the ball is passed to him, his distribution is appalling and he only belts it long, the very thing we are trying not to do and only adds to the hoofball.

 

We need to build from the back, last night in the second half we hardly passed the ball at all. We need Davis to get his act together and start passing/throwing the ball to defenders who have to come looking for it, which doesn't happen, as he almost always delays and ignores options, to kick long which mostly gives the ball away.

 

Agree with that. Had more than ample time to come and collect or clear the ball for their goal and that lack of dominance makes the defence hesitant under the high ball.

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Do think we 'sit back' too much at times that allows opposition onto us.

 

First 35mins was superb, we played high tempo / pressure football. With the pace of Antonio & Papa we didn't let MKD defence / midfield (and their GK) have time on the ball which forced errors from them.

 

For this level of football this is what i think we have to do all the time.

 

When MKD scored their goal before HT, we disappeared in our own half, stopped all the hard work and let them come at us and this is when we tend to f**k up !

 

That said, at KO thought this was as close to our best starting XI as we could have. Pleased with most performances and really pleased and surprised to see Hammond back.

 

Negatives (not many) Jaidi didn't look great (hopefully this is due to lack of games) and Thomas (who i really like at RB) has to stop having that rash rush of blood to the head !

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KD's distribution is excellent. It nearly always goes straight to Lambert. That is where it's supposed to go. Would you seriously prefer him to roll it to Thomas or Jaidi every time?

 

That's what he was instructed to do last season and it was garbage. This season he has clearly been instructed to look for Lambert. He finds him 90% of the time. Lambert dominated them in the air last night. We won 3-1. Well done for not mentioning width though.

 

The first goal was (if anyone noticed) AP shouting to KD to play ball out to AL on left. KD did exactly as asked and hence the resulting goal.

 

Good call from AP and GOOD distribution from KD

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The first goal was (if anyone noticed) AP shouting to KD to play ball out to AL on left. KD did exactly as asked and hence the resulting goal.

 

Good call from AP and GOOD distribution from KD

 

Exactly. He delivers it where it is supposed to go.

 

Criticising him for kicking to Lambert is silly as it's clearly the game plan 90% of the time. That's not KD's fault.

 

I agree that he could dominate the area a bit more but you're not going to get amazing shot stoppers with faultless handling, superb marshalling and the ability to dribble through the opposition and create clear-cut chances in League One.

 

He is better than most at this level and we are lucky to have him as he could be playing for a better team.

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Brilliant performance, brilliant atmosphere, brilliant celebration from Lambert, brilliant ribbing of Incey and the wotsit, BRILLIANT BRILLIANT SAINTS.

 

MoM was papa, linked really well with Lambo and gave them problems all night. Also showed last night how much weve missed Hammond and Harding in recent weeks, very very important players for us.

 

Cannot wait for March 28th

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up until 2nd goal we dominated pocession and looked threatening everytime we went forward. Lambert, Lallana, Antonio and Waigo causing lots pf problems. After that the game was dire not helped by MK Dons having 10 Paul Ince's running around being in your face with very little time on the ball. I thought Antonio appeared very lethargic 2nd half in that he did not show that burning pace he has plus bit slow to help Thomas. Having said that it was a professional performance with place at wembley much more important than quality of play. To be fair MK Dons did not threaten at all even there goal was Wimbledon style! They only had those long throws which we dealt with no problem.

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Without doubt Kelvin Davis is a first class shotstopper but is deficient in most other areas. He doesn't dominate his goal area, looks tentative under pressure and when the ball is passed to him, his distribution is appalling and he only belts it long, the very thing we are trying not to do and only adds to the hoofball.

 

We need to build from the back, last night in the second half we hardly passed the ball at all. We need Davis to get his act together and start passing/throwing the ball to defenders who have to come looking for it, which doesn't happen, as he almost always delays and ignores options, to kick long which mostly gives the ball away.

 

Yes I agree - I thought Fonte had problems with Kelvin a couple of times.

 

I also thinl Antonios long throws are a waste of time as well

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Fantastic evening.

 

First-half we were by far the better side and fully deserved to go in at half-time in front.

 

The second-half was ruined by the ref; I've never seen so many free-kicks given in one game, unbelievable!

 

Top draw goal and celebration from Lambert, clearly means a lot to him and he's made himself a real fans favourite here.

 

MOTM goes to Papa Waigo, he was at the centre of everything last night and was unlucky not to notch himself.

 

All in all, a great evening, now bring on Wembley!

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No end product ?? He caused the Dons back line all sorts of problems all night last night, never let them settle at all and pulled them around all over the place leaving gaps for Lambert and Lallana to exploit.

 

He also set up Lambert for the first goal if i remember correctly and also won the ball and played a delightful ball across the 6 yard box from which the Dons CB could have scored another own goal before putting it out for a corner.

 

Similarities to BWP ?? Behave, BWP was a terrible player and i never saw him change a game in the red and white in the same way that Waigo has done when coming on from the bench nor cause the panic to a defence as Waigo did last night.

 

Waigo fully deserves the MOTM many on here have awarded him, sometimes i wonder if you write this nonsense just on the wind up ? :confused:

 

Only sometimes?

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difficult to watch the game without looking ahead to Saturday and how we would be taken aparrt if we did many of the things we did last night. Ignoring Saturday for now, it was a decent first half and a terrible second half. Only Waigo had a really decent game and many had shockers: Morgan, Hammond and Jardi.

 

Davis 6 not much to do really

Harding 7 solid, didn't get forward as much as usual. Never beaten

Fonte 6 didn't win quite enough in the air and looked less composed than usual. Him and Jaidi seemed unsure of their roles.

Jaidi 5 Wilbraham's caused him real problems and he never timed his jumps. Lots of pushing in the box could have cost us a pen on another day. Poor distribution.

Thomas 6 beaten for pace by their big centre back (no 2) which shows how little pace he has. Lucky not to get sent off. Never seen him run so fast as when he chased over to try and get their player sen off. Not impressed by that.

Antonio 6 excellent first half, causing all kinds of problems with his pace and power. Nothing in the second half.

Hammond 5 looked miles off the pace and commited maybe 10 fouls. Should have been booked. Looked slow and tired which is to be expected. Good run out for him though.

Morgan 4 one of his worst games. Never won a tackle

Lallana 6 very good first half, dissappeared in the second.

Lambert 7 why is he tacking corners.

Waigo 9 brilliant game and the difference between the two sides.

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Congratualtions. I was chuffed to see Saints reach the final. For what it's worth, myself and a friend went to the JPT Final (Bristol Rovers V Doncaster) a few years back, and despite it being a "lesser cup", the day didn't reflect that. I really do hope for all Saints fans that you go on and win it. Best of luck. Tony

 

Any chance you and guy wittingham are teaming up to buy the skates? Do make sure the tyres are nice and plump on the way.

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I think this thread has proven that either:

 

NC19 doesn't have a clue about football; or

 

He will decide to slag off a player purely for the reaction.

 

(or both I guess)

 

...or Benji thinks he is Alan Hansen and nobody can have an opinion more knowing than his own. A few others agree with me about Papa and where have I slagged him off exactly? You may not agree with my comparison but hardly a slagging off. The best thing for me last night about his performance was that he seems to have cracked the offside rule.

 

I thought our full backs played well as I mentioned previously but overall and especially after our second goal it became a very tedious game. Nothing wrong in that as it was the right result but it puts Papa's performance into context. Lets see how he gets on this Saturday or more importantly against Norwich shall we Alan? We need our strikers to deliver more than just movement especially if the quality of ball from wide positions is generally poor.

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No end product ?? He caused the Dons back line all sorts of problems all night last night, never let them settle at all and pulled them around all over the place leaving gaps for Lambert and Lallana to exploit.

 

He also set up Lambert for the first goal if i remember correctly and also won the ball and played a delightful ball across the 6 yard box from which the Dons CB could have scored another own goal before putting it out for a corner.

 

Similarities to BWP ?? Behave, BWP was a terrible player and i never saw him change a game in the red and white in the same way that Waigo has done when coming on from the bench nor cause the panic to a defence as Waigo did last night.

 

Waigo fully deserves the MOTM many on here have awarded him, sometimes i wonder if you write this nonsense just on the wind up ? :confused:

 

I wonder if you wish to alter reality to suit your own agenda. Lallana set the first goal up somewhat more memorable than Papa's glaring miss in the first half not unlike his miss from 2 yards in front of the chapel the other week - can't remember the game so won't make it up.

 

Unfortunately we don't get points for 'scaring' defenders and his inconsistency is simply frustrating. He is quick out of the blocks but his quality dimishes markedly over 90 minutes and that is why he is more effective as a super sub.

 

I can remember one glorious BWP goal in the Championship no less, again in front of the Chapel in fact i can remember one or two. Again though not a great player but I liked his youthful enthusiasm and big smile even if Wes Dour Tender cannot. They are very much on a par.

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Absolute rubbish. He terrorised their defence, made the first goal and caused the panic for the own goal. Granted the header looked harder to put wide than on target but easily the best player on the pitch.

 

More reality altering he did not make the first goal and would rather he had Lambert's finishing ability or even Lallana's for all his industry. He is supposed to be a striker after all and not a winger.

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You have the advantage of knowing something about Saints, Football, Papa..:)

 

You also have the advantage of being at the game and supporting Saints:)

 

Some posters making comment on Papa .... obviously do not have your advantages;)

 

Ottery you dumb fool don't believe all that is written on here either listen to the commentary or read the professional reports not those trying to support their own arguments with lies.

 

Our first goal came courtesy of our Crazy Gang approach and nice touch by Lallana to Lambert. If I remember correctly Lallana deftly controlled a well timed pass by Kelvin. Papa's involvement was to watch in awe.;)

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Ottery you dumb fool don't believe all that is written on here either listen to the commentary or read the professional reports not those trying to support their own arguments with lies.

 

Our first goal came courtesy of our Crazy Gang approach and nice touch by Lallana to Lambert. If I remember correctly Lallana deftly controlled a well timed pass by Kelvin. Papa's involvement was to watch in awe.;)

 

I'm pretty sure the layoff for the first goal was from Waigo who held the ball just long enough to turn it round the corner to Lambert who never looked like missing.

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Got back far too late from the game last night to post my reaction, so here it is now. Pleased with the win, we completely dominated for the first 40 minutes, but seemed to switch off after they scored, and the second half was a little scrappy. It was my first game in the Northam stand as well, and I loved it!

 

Davis 6 - Did what he had to do (which wasn't very much), but partly at blame for their goal with a weak punch?

Thomas 6 - Not his best performance, but okay nonetheless. Temper flared up before he was subbed, good move by Pardew because he could've been sent off.

Harding 7 - Good going down the flank, good support play as well. Passing left a little to be desired sometimes though.

Jaidi 7 - Pretty good, dominant in the air and ground, but his passing was very lacklustre.

Fonte 7 - Solid at the back, never really had any worries with him.

Schneiderlin 7 - Some lovely little touches on the ball to set up some moves, and I don't think he should've been subbed.

Hammond 7 - Good to have him back in the team and he certainly fought for the ball, which is something we've lacked. Welcome back Hammy!

Antonio 7 - Good performance on the wing, cutting inside he looked very dangerous but quite often his last touch was too much which made the defender's job a bit easier.

Lallana 8 (MoM) - Great performance from Lallana, he really showed what he could do. Great skill on the ball, some lovely passes and he was very dangerous going forward. Took his goal well and was the star player of the night. Highlight of the night was his bursting run, taking the ball around 3 or 4 MK players before playing the ball to Rickie.

Waigo 7 - Missed a decent chance early on which may have knocked his confidence a bit, but he chased defenders all night and didn't stop working. In the second half we seemed to be playing the ball to him aerially which I don't think suited him up against their big CB pairing.

Lambert 7 - Good performance, drifted out wide and pulled the defenders out of position which allowed us to create chances. Good interplay with Lallana and also took his goal well, lovely finish under the keeper's body.

 

Subs came on too late to really have an impact.

 

Bring on Wembley!

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I'm pretty sure the layoff for the first goal was from Waigo who held the ball just long enough to turn it round the corner to Lambert who never looked like missing.

 

Yes it was Waigo

 

From BBC

 

14:28

Assist on the goal came from Ndiaye Papa Waigo.

14:28 GOAL - Richard Lambert:

Southampton 1 - 0 MK Dons Richard Lambert finds the back of the net with a goal from deep inside the penalty box to the bottom right corner of the goal. Southampton 1 (2)-(0) 0 Milton Keynes Dons.

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