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...but I could swear that the legal age for buying alcohol in this 'jobsworth' nation of ours is 18?

 

Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol. I know this policy is nothing new and I know I should have remembered my driving licence, but Jesus Christ, I AM 23! I can handle the '21' policy, but 25?!?!? Is this just my local Tesco or is it now a nationwide thing?

 

The old cow asked me my age, I could have lied and said 26, but 'No", I thought, "I'll tell the truth"...

 

"You need to be 25 to buy alcohol here..." WELL **** YOU!

 

Perhaps I could understand if I was buying 'alchopops', but I was buying a bottle of Merlot along with my week's shopping!

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

Rant over.

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...but I could swear that the legal age for buying alcohol in this 'jobsworth' nation of ours is 18?

 

Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol. I know this policy is nothing new and I know I should have remembered my driving licence, but Jesus Christ, I AM 23! I can handle the '21' policy, but 25?!?!? Is this just my local Tesco or is it now a nationwide thing?

 

The old cow asked me my age, I could have lied and said 26, but 'No", I thought, "I'll tell the truth"...

 

"You need to be 25 to buy alcohol here..." WELL **** YOU!

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

Rant over.

 

If this is what you are like without alcohol then I dread to think what you'd be like with a drink inside you. I don't think teachers should be going out on a weeknight (especially a Monday....you've got a whole week of lessons to get through yet) and looking to get drunk. If you can't handle someone saying you shouldn't have a drink, then I would suggest you drink too much and need to seek help. I don't see that as a bad thing and nor should you. It is a sign of strength to go out and ask someone for assistance for a problem that you have identified. Good luck with your problem.

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Seems a bit weird. Whenever I go to Asda (Don't hate me, it's by far the nearest) there are placards saying "Don't be offended if you look under 25 and get asked for I.D.". Never had a problem buying alcohol there and I'm 21.

 

It's the second time this has happened to me at this store, I really should remember to take my I.D next time, but still...

 

As I said 'under 21' I can handle, but 'under 25'?!

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If this is what you are like without alcohol then I dread to think what you'd be like with a drink inside you. I don't think teachers should be going out on a weeknight (especially a Monday....you've got a whole week of lessons to get through yet) and looking to get drunk. If you can't handle someone saying you shouldn't have a drink, then I would suggest you drink too much and need to seek help. I don't see that as a bad thing and nor should you. It is a sign of strength to go out and ask someone for assistance for a problem that you have identified. Good luck with your problem.

 

You make me chuckle, I love you. xx

 

I decided to edit the post while you were replying, I was buying red wine...quick, get me an ASBO!

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You're right, you are no lawyer!

 

You're also right that the legal age to purchase alcohol in the UK is 18.

 

What you've overlooked though is the licensee - every Tescos will have a premise licence and a designated premises supervisor - has the right to sell alcohol to who they want, when they want.

 

They can therefore put any stipulation they want on the sale of that alcohol and insist that you wear a grass skirt, and limbo under a pole before they sell wine to you if they want! I guess you should carry I.D around with you in the future ;)

 

Besides, I'm sure you'd be the first to complain if they sold a load of booze to the local hoodies who spent the night in front of your house getting themselves bladdered....

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The person got it wrong, you don't need to be 25 to buy alcohol, it's just if you look under 25 in the eyes of the till person then you may be asked to have ID. It's countrywide policy, and yes it is stupid if you ask me.

 

However, I work on the till if I have to, if I was to sell alcohol to an under 18 and the old bill found out (they send in under 18s to try and buy alcohol to catch us out) then I could get fined up to £5000, go to court, my manager could get fined and the store could lose it's license. I'm not a jobsworth, trust me, but I don't fancy a hefty fine and a criminal record. I ID'd someone who was about 24 the other day, she looked about 16. She had ID and we had a laugh about it.

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Tesco can choose to not serve you with alcohol due to your age, which they specify.

 

Put all your shopping through, then the alcohol. If refused just walk off and leave the lot there for them to sort. It won't get you the alcohol but it will cause them a little problem for a few minutes.

 

And, possibly, a ban.

 

If they ask why you are leaving it tell them "You chose not to serve me alcohol so I changed my mind and decided I didn't want the goods"

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The person got it wrong, you don't need to be 25 to buy alcohol, it's just if you look under 25 in the eyes of the till person then you may be asked to have ID. It's countrywide policy, and yes it is stupid if you ask me.

 

However, I work on the till if I have to, if I was to sell alcohol to an under 18 and the old bill found out (they send in under 18s to try and buy alcohol to catch us out) then I could get fined up to £5000, go to court, my manager could get fined and the store could lose it's license. I'm not a jobsworth, trust me, but I don't fancy a hefty fine and a criminal record. I ID'd someone who was about 24 the other day, she looked about 16. She had ID and we had a laugh about it.

 

I understand that she was only doing her job and has a responsibility due to legal implications, all I'm asking for is a bit of common sense: You seem to possess said common sense. If you saw me, you can tell straight away that I'm not 17! I was wearing a suit for crying out loud and was buying red wine...is that was 17 year olds are into these days?!

 

Ah well!

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I understand that she was only doing her job and has a responsibility due to legal implications, all I'm asking for is a bit of common sense: You seem to possess said common sense. If you saw me, you can tell straight away that I'm not 17! I was wearing a suit for crying out loud and was buying red wine...is that was 17 year olds are into these days?!

 

Ah well!

 

Well, you could have been a 17 year old who was desperately trying to look old enough by wearing a suit and buying red wine ;)

 

But yeah, as an 18 year old I can pretty much tell whether someone is older than me or not, and yes, 25 is quite a big gap... 7 years... I wouldn't have ID'd you unless you were SERIOUSLY baby faced or something.

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Well, you could have been a 17 year old who was desperately trying to look old enough by wearing a suit and buying red wine ;)

 

But yeah, as an 18 year old I can pretty much tell whether someone is older than me or not, and yes, 25 is quite a big gap... 7 years... I wouldn't have ID'd you unless you were SERIOUSLY baby faced or something.

 

Well, I did have a shave this morning ;)

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The most bizarre id ing that I had was when I went to see the NY Mets baseball. They Id anyone who appears under the age of 40 but will serve anyone who can prove they are 21.

 

They also sell beer in the stands. You shout your order down. Pass your money (and id) to the guy sat next to you who passes it on to the guy next to him and so on and eventually your beer (unsipped) and your change (all of it) turns up. Very civilised. Could never see that happening at an english football ground. Your money would be nicked and your id cloned and any beer that began the return journey would have been mineswept before it got to you.

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I got asked how old i was just before Christmas and i'm 32!

 

I sarcasticly replied that I was 16.

 

The stupid women then said "well i can't serve you then".

 

I got my driving licence out and got the beer, but i was gobsmacked at being asked. It must be my youthful good looks.

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...but I could swear that the legal age for buying alcohol in this 'jobsworth' nation of ours is 18?

 

Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol. I know this policy is nothing new and I know I should have remembered my driving licence, but Jesus Christ, I AM 23! I can handle the '21' policy, but 25?!?!? Is this just my local Tesco or is it now a nationwide thing?

 

The old cow asked me my age, I could have lied and said 26, but 'No", I thought, "I'll tell the truth"...

 

"You need to be 25 to buy alcohol here..." WELL **** YOU!

 

Perhaps I could understand if I was buying 'alchopops', but I was buying a bottle of Merlot along with my week's shopping!

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

Rant over.

 

If alchohol was developed now it would never get a license for public sale. Give it a few years and we probably will go down the American route, which is no bad thing as I am sick of seeing kids throw up in the gutter on Friday nights. The governement can't ban it as they make too much money out of it but in time it will go down the route of fags and be seen as a killer. The ads have already started and the scary truth is that no one knows what a safe limit to drink is.

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...but I could swear that the legal age for buying alcohol in this 'jobsworth' nation of ours is 18?

 

Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol. I know this policy is nothing new and I know I should have remembered my driving licence, but Jesus Christ, I AM 23! I can handle the '21' policy, but 25?!?!? Is this just my local Tesco or is it now a nationwide thing?

 

The old cow asked me my age, I could have lied and said 26, but 'No", I thought, "I'll tell the truth"...

 

"You need to be 25 to buy alcohol here..." WELL **** YOU!

 

Perhaps I could understand if I was buying 'alchopops', but I was buying a bottle of Merlot along with my week's shopping!

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

Rant over.

 

:lol: at you.

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If alchohol was developed now it would never get a license for public sale. Give it a few years and we probably will go down the American route, which is no bad thing as I am sick of seeing kids throw up in the gutter on Friday nights. The governement can't ban it as they make too much money out of it but in time it will go down the route of fags and be seen as a killer. The ads have already started and the scary truth is that no one knows what a safe limit to drink is.

 

This is certainly true; it is a very destructive drug and would be a Class A f'sure if it was a newbie.

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Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol.

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

What a silly question and a dramatic response.

 

If you don't like this country f()ck off and find one that sells alcohol to spotty youths who think they look thirty just because they wear a suit, make sure when you travel you are accompanied by an adult or the airline may not let you fly.....or simply ask your mum to get you it next time.

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Tesco, or any other shop for that matter, don't have to sell you anything at all if they don't want to!

 

This is true. At the moment, there is a radio advert run by Citroen, where the buyer, astonished at the low price, tells the salesman that he must sell him the car at the price the salesman has got it marked at. He says, I know my rights, you've got to sell it to me at that price... I'll tell the newspapers, etc...

 

Actually, he doesn't have to. It is merely an invitation to buy. But he won't sell many cars if he goes back on the offer.

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If alchohol was developed now it would never get a license for public sale. Give it a few years and we probably will go down the American route, which is no bad thing as I am sick of seeing kids throw up in the gutter on Friday nights. The governement can't ban it as they make too much money out of it but in time it will go down the route of fags and be seen as a killer. The ads have already started and the scary truth is that no one knows what a safe limit to drink is.

 

The one big difference between smoking and drinking is that smoking directly has a negative effect on your health, whereas alcohol, when drinking it responsibly, does not have a negative effect on your health. In fact it can have a positive effect. Obviously if used irresponsibly then alcohol becomes dangerous.

 

It's like if you have a car. Drive it responsibly and generally it's fine. But drive it irresponsibly then it becomes dangerous. In fact it's worse than alcohol as it becomes dangerous for others.

 

Therefore it is unlikely you will see it go down the route of fags. Advertising will continue, but it has changed dramatically over the last few years to make it 'responsible'

 

No longer can they advertise using sex, free pouring alcohol, violence, too much fun, more than one drink per person etc. So much so in the Martini ads with George Clooney, he was carrying more than one bottle of Martini, so they had to add in a party in the back ground to make it out like he was taking the drink for others.

 

 

This ad wasn't that long ago and pretty much includes all the above. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOWIyb53pWQ

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I got asked for ID by some scrawny little 17 year old geek last year. ( I'm 30 )

 

I wouldn't have minded but...

 

1) I was with my 9 and 10 year old sons!

 

2) I pulled up in a relatively new BMW!

 

3) I was paying by credit card!

 

She wouldn't actually serve me and I had to stand at the till and get her manager to come over and approve I looked over 18..... he walked off again.... then just to rub salt in the wound.... she had to ring the f*cking bell to get someone else to serve me anyway as she wasnt 18 herself!!!!

 

C*NT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If alchohol was developed now it would never get a license for public sale. Give it a few years and we probably will go down the American route, which is no bad thing as I am sick of seeing kids throw up in the gutter on Friday nights. The governement can't ban it as they make too much money out of it but in time it will go down the route of fags and be seen as a killer. The ads have already started and the scary truth is that no one knows what a safe limit to drink is.

 

Sort of like how, in the 30's or whatever, cigarettes were promoted as healthy, doctors said they would help clear your lungs!

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What a silly question and a dramatic response.

 

If you don't like this country f()ck off and find one that sells alcohol to spotty youths who think they look thirty just because they wear a suit, make sure when you travel you are accompanied by an adult or the airline may not let you fly.....or simply ask your mum to get you it next time.

 

A spotty youth? Please influenced.com behave. I would dearly love to **** off, in fact the plan is, once I have saved enough up, I'm flying off to Oz. I passed the Visa 'test' by a country mile so why not? When you've been to a city like Sydney, you can just see how backward this country is.

 

Poor old influenced.com, are you a decaying old dinosaur who still waves a flag at the TV when the last night of proms is on?

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I got asked for ID by some scrawny little 17 year old geek last year. ( I'm 30 )

 

I wouldn't have minded but...

 

1) I was with my 9 and 10 year old sons!

 

2) I pulled up in a relatively new BMW!

 

3) I was paying by credit card!

 

None of those three points prove you are over 18.

 

1) They could be anyone.

 

2) 17 year olds can drive or you could be joyriding.

 

3) Could be stolen.

 

;) :D

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But yeah, as an 18 year old I can pretty much tell whether someone is older than me or not, and yes, 25 is quite a big gap... 7 years... I wouldn't have ID'd you unless you were SERIOUSLY baby faced or something.

 

I ID'd someone who was about 24 the other day, she looked about 16. She had ID and we had a laugh about it.

 

So you can't tell if someone is older than you or not then?

 

Same for me, I'm 31, and struggle to tell the difference between someone who is 16 or 25.

 

Personally I find having a bald receding hairline helps get you served, never had a problem getting served anywhere at any age :)

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So you can't tell if someone is older than you or not then?

 

Same for me, I'm 31, and struggle to tell the difference between someone who is 16 or 25.

 

Personally I find having a bald receding hairline helps get you served, never had a problem getting served anywhere at any age :)

 

That girl (well, woman, oops) was an exception, she was about a foot smaller than me, and had a young looking face. She even had her ID out ready, so she must get it a lot!!

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A spotty youth? Please influenced.com behave. I would dearly love to **** off, in fact the plan is, once I have saved enough up, I'm flying off to Oz. I passed the Visa 'test' by a country mile so why not? When you've been to a city like Sydney, you can just see how backward this country is.

 

Poor old influenced.com, are you a decaying old dinosaur who still waves a flag at the TV when the last night of proms is on?

 

Go to New Zealand instead, much nicer. Place and people!

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Most of these store operate a policy where they have a company send in people that are old enough to buy alcohol but are under 21. If the cashier does not ask for ID then they are up on a disciplinary, 3 strikes and they are out. To protect themselves the cashiers usually look at 25 as the age to go by as guessing soemone's age is not easy.

 

It's a simple enough thing to carry your driving licence in your wallet.

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Most of these store operate a policy where they have a company send in people that are old enough to buy alcohol but are under 21. If the cashier does not ask for ID then they are up on a disciplinary, 3 strikes and they are out. To protect themselves the cashiers usually look at 25 as the age to go by as guessing soemone's age is not easy.

 

It's a simple enough thing to carry your driving licence in your wallet.

 

Actually, there is what is called a 'Think 25' policy. When someone is buying alcohol, we have to look at them and think if they look younger than 25, we have to ID them.

 

Never heard of the company that sends in people that are old enough, but I know for a fact that the police send in people that AREN'T old enough, and if we sell it to them, then it's a fine and a criminal record, potential court appearance, potential fine for the manager and if you offend persistently then the store could lose it's license.

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Actually, there is what is called a 'Think 25' policy. When someone is buying alcohol, we have to look at them and think if they look younger than 25, we have to ID them.

 

Never heard of the company that sends in people that are old enough, but I know for a fact that the police send in people that AREN'T old enough, and if we sell it to them, then it's a fine and a criminal record, potential court appearance, potential fine for the manager and if you offend persistently then the store could lose it's license.

 

The police send people in under 18 to try and catch people out. Most supermarkets have their own internal investigation type things too whereby they send people just over the age of 18 to buy alcohol and they still expect the cashier to check ID or else face disciplinary action.

 

Bare in mind the average checkout worker probably earns only about £5,000 a year. If they're caught selling to anyone underage they can get a £5000 fine, criminal record, the sack and risk the store losing it's alcohol licence too (it does happen...I went to Tesco in Dorchester a few months back and they couldn't sell alcohol at the time because they'd supplied to many underage pikey/chav type people booze).

 

Now, lets be honest, if you're doing a whole weekly shop, how hard is it to take your wallet with you and keep some sort of ID in there? Why should they risk their job and livlihood because someone (especially who's had it happen to them before) is too stupid to remember their ID? Would you risk your job and more, by believing a complete stranger about their age?

 

And sheesh kebab. You're only 22? It's probably not that unbelievable that you look a year or 2 younger is it?

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The police send people in under 18 to try and catch people out. Most supermarkets have their own internal investigation type things too whereby they send people just over the age of 18 to buy alcohol and they still expect the cashier to check ID or else face disciplinary action.

 

Bare in mind the average checkout worker probably earns only about £5,000 a year. If they're caught selling to anyone underage they can get a £5000 fine, criminal record, the sack and risk the store losing it's alcohol licence too (it does happen...I went to Tesco in Dorchester a few months back and they couldn't sell alcohol at the time because they'd supplied to many underage pikey/chav type people booze).

 

Now, lets be honest, if you're doing a whole weekly shop, how hard is it to take your wallet with you and keep some sort of ID in there? Why should they risk their job and livlihood because someone (especially who's had it happen to them before) is too stupid to remember their ID? Would you risk your job and more, by believing a complete stranger about their age?

 

And sheesh kebab. You're only 22? It's probably not that unbelievable that you look a year or 2 younger is it?

 

Yeah, spot on, absolutely.

 

Although I only work part time there's no way I'd risk losing my job just because someone has forgotten their ID. It's difficult to find another job as it is.

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Well, I did have a shave this morning ;)

 

This is what normally catches me out!

 

It is incredibly frustrating, at 24 years old, but im pretty resigned to it with my youthfull good looks!

 

I used to buy alcohol at 16 years old from the same supermarkets that now id me at 24! A clear indication of tightening of the rules!

 

Although on the occasion I do not have any identification, it is a nightmare. And when I do, it is depressing watching some cashier counting the years back on their fingers to work out how old i am, just take 18 years off todays date you moron!

 

FWIW, after being asked 'how old are you'... '24'... 'have you got any proof/id'... I remind the dolly that an undercover police sting (eg: 14yr old girl who looks 25) must disclose her real age on demand, they cannot lie.

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This is what normally catches me out!

 

It is incredibly frustrating, at 24 years old, but im pretty resigned to it with my youthfull good looks!

 

I used to buy alcohol at 16 years old from the same supermarkets that now id me at 24! A clear indication of tightening of the rules!

 

Although on the occasion I do not have any identification, it is a nightmare. And when I do, it is depressing watching some cashier counting the years back on their fingers to work out how old i am, just take 18 years off todays date you moron!

 

FWIW, after being asked 'how old are you'... '24'... 'have you got any proof/id'... I remind the dolly that an undercover police sting (eg: 14yr old girl who looks 25) must disclose her real age on demand, they cannot lie.

 

Lol - At St. Mary's earlier this season I was getting a beer and after queuing for 15 minutes the mush on the till asked me if I had any ID. I had it out ready and gave it to him. He looked puzzled and then shouted for a steward to come over and check the date on it cos he couldn't work it out! And that was the first and only time I've been ID'd in the ground!

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...but I could swear that the legal age for buying alcohol in this 'jobsworth' nation of ours is 18?

 

Where do Tesco etc get off having their OWN policy on buying alcohol. I know this policy is nothing new and I know I should have remembered my driving licence, but Jesus Christ, I AM 23! I can handle the '21' policy, but 25?!?!? Is this just my local Tesco or is it now a nationwide thing?

 

The old cow asked me my age, I could have lied and said 26, but 'No", I thought, "I'll tell the truth"...

 

"You need to be 25 to buy alcohol here..." WELL **** YOU!

 

Perhaps I could understand if I was buying 'alchopops', but I was buying a bottle of Merlot along with my week's shopping!

 

This ****ty ****ing country really does my head in sometimes!

 

Rant over.

 

Used to get Id'd by the smae fat cow in Coop Nursling St, every bloody week for fags, despite being 22 at the time. Every week! The one time I forgot my ID she refused to serve me. I share your pain. Tell them you will do your weekly shop in Sainsburys from now on if it happens again.

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If anyone uses the Coronation Parade co-op in Hamble then remember your ID! The bloke on the till is so strict, he wouldn't serve me a scratch card (16 age limit) cos I didn't have ID on me, it was in the car. I was also in the queue and a bloke asked for a pack of fags. Matey on till refused him the sale cos of lack of ID. He turned around and he was a builder, probably in his early 30s. I had to laugh.

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Used to get Id'd by the smae fat cow in Coop Nursling St, every bloody week for fags, despite being 22 at the time. Every week! The one time I forgot my ID she refused to serve me. I share your pain. Tell them you will do your weekly shop in Sainsburys from now on if it happens again.

It is quite possible that you are not so remarkable that a lady who serves hundreds of people a day will forget what you look like.

I really don't know why people whinge about being asked for ID, just put your ID in your wallet and there won't be a problem.

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So basically the reason was u forgot your ID ??

 

Answer - Don't forget your ID ?? Simples

 

No offence Thorpey, but if it stops the yooth kicking some old dear in outside then fair play to the supermarkets, they have to protect themselves from the nanny state rules as well.

 

I have not been asked for ID for ages tbf, tho my driving licence always sits in my wallet just in case.

 

Sods law says, u don't have it you'll need it

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So basically the reason was u forgot your ID ??

 

Answer - Don't forget your ID ?? Simples

 

No offence Thorpey, but if it stops the yooth kicking some old dear in outside then fair play to the supermarkets, they have to protect themselves from the nanny state rules as well.

 

I have not been asked for ID for ages tbf, tho my driving licence always sits in my wallet just in case.

 

Sods law says, u don't have it you'll need it

 

You sound just like my missus!! :D

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