The Football League Show

[St Landrew]

For those who didn't see it, and who can't wait for the slightly extended highlights to pop up on the BBC Southampton webpage, here's the Football League show:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qs7tc/The_Football_League_Show_2009_2010_06_02_2010/

 

Start 51mins in for Saints.

[JustinR]

cheers

[Glasgow_Saint]

Exeter should have won

[Saint_clark]

Exeter should have won

 

You really are a tit.

Obviously those highlights show that Exeter should have won, because it showed them hitting the post.

What it didn't show was the blatant handball in the box right in front of me about 2 minutes later.

A draw was a fair result in the end.

[Andover_Saint07]

Exeter should have won

 

 

At the end first half they didnt even have a shot

[Glasgow_Saint]

At the end first half they didnt even have a shot

 

Just going by what the commentator said.

 

AP said we we couldnt compete as the pitch was poor - what the **** does he expect from L1 sides? Does he do any research?

[S-Clarke]

Just going by what the commentator said.

 

AP said we we couldnt compete as the pitch was poor - what the **** does he expect from L1 sides? Does he do any research?

 

but there are poor pitches, and then almost unplayable pitches.

 

according to Tisdale, the match nearly didn't go ahead because of the state of it.

[Saint]

I think Exeter should have won. In fact, i don't think i'm going to support Saints anymore.

[Saint_clark]

but there are poor pitches, and then almost unplayable pitches.

 

according to Tisdale, the match nearly didn't go ahead because of the state of it.

 

Exactly. There was one point when the ball was coming through to Kelvin Davis with a LOT of pace on it, and it just stopped dead about two yards outside the 18 yard box. Thankfully the Exeter strikers hadn't gambled, but if they had we would have been 1-0 down at that point.

[Glasgow_Saint]

I think Exeter should have won. In fact, i don't think i'm going to support Saints anymore.

 

Bit over the top?

[Dr Who?]

Looks to me like another case of Davis not coming out to get that cross. He's a class shot stopper but he should have improved on this by now. Bart is a lot lot better at taking control of his area.

 

Well he is looking more and more like Paul Jones.... and sounds like he is playing like him! Great shot stopper, but could not come for crosses. (Oh but Jones could not kick either) Still used to love Paul Jones a great servent to our club!

[VectisSaint]

Just going by what the commentator said.

 

AP said we we couldnt compete as the pitch was poor - what the **** does he expect from L1 sides? Does he do any research?

The commentator said no such thing. You just made that up to suit your agenda. The tater said, "Exeter could have snatched a winner at the death", which is true, but he never said they should have won. AP also did not say they could not compete because of the pitch, he simply said that Exeter dealt with the conditions better. If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style. Perhaps we should have played a couple more cloggers yesterday (Wotton and Thomas maybe), but I don't recall anyone suggesting this beforehand. Horses for courses and all that.

[B Rabbit]

The pitch wasn't even remotely flat...the left hand edge of the 6 yard box..could clearly see the lines marking it out from where i was standing...as the eyes moved towards the middle of the 6 yard box, you couldn't see bugger all. There must have been a 30 cm change in level over 6 metres. Ridiculous.

The grass was completely cut up by the end of the day too. Have played on better Sunday league pitches

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

The pitch wasn't even remotely flat...the left hand edge of the 6 yard box..could clearly see the lines marking it out from where i was standing...as the eyes moved towards the middle of the 6 yard box, you couldn't see bugger all. There must have been a 30 cm change in level over 6 metres. Ridiculous.

 

The grass was completely cut up by the end of the day too. Have played on better Sunday league pitches

 

I've called off games on better Sunday League pitches...

[Saint_clark]

Yeah the pitch did dip and rise all over the place, from where I was stood you couldn't even see the opposite touchline.

[Glasgow_Saint]

The commentator said no such thing. You just made that up to suit your agenda. The tater said, "Exeter could have snatched a winner at the death", which is true, but he never said they should have won. AP also did not say they could not compete because of the pitch, he simply said that Exeter dealt with the conditions better. If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style. Perhaps we should have played a couple more cloggers yesterday (Wotton and Thomas maybe), but I don't recall anyone suggesting this beforehand. Horses for courses and all that.

 

Read between the lines.

 

Pitch was the same for both sides - I want results, not excuses.

[Saint_clark]

Read between the lines.

 

Pitch was the same for both sides - I want results, not excuses.

 

Did you completely ignore this part???????????

"If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style"

[SuperMikey]

Christ, that pitch is awful. The officials really should be tougher on pitch quality, because that really is just bad, and I can see why we struggled a bit playing on that. It's like the Blackpool game last season where their pitch was 70% sand, 10% mud and 20% grass. It can suit a team like Exeter to have a pitch like that which they're accustomed to playing on while other teams struggle, and it can help them to pick up valuable points against teams. Probably how they've got this far in the first place tbh!

[Glasgow_Saint]

Did you completely ignore this part???????????

"If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style"

 

Proper Prior Planning Prevents P1ss Poor Performance.

[Saint_clark]

Proper Prior Planning Prevents P1ss Poor Performance.

 

Are you suggesting we should have taken a JCB to our training pitch in order to be ready for this game?

[Thedelldays]

Did you completely ignore this part???????????

"If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style"

I thought tisdale teams play the passing game..

 

obviously not then

[Saint_clark]

I thought tisdale teams play the passing game..

 

obviously not then

 

Are you still not getting it?

If you play a passing game on a flat surface, you will get used to that.

If you play a passing game on a piece of sh*t pitch, you will adapt after a while.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Are you still not getting it?

If you play a passing game on a flat surface, you will get used to that.

If you play a passing game on a piece of sh*t pitch, you will adapt after a while.

 

How did MKDs, Carlisle & Brighton adapt? They have all won at Exeter recently?

[Saint_clark]

How did MKDs, Carlisle & Brighton adapt? They have all won at Exeter recently?

 

Because, as I have tried to tell you countless times, football is not that clear cut.

Leeds beat United, but Exeter beat Leeds - does that make Exeter better than United?

[Thedelldays]

Because, as I have tried to tell you countless times, football is not that clear cut.

Leeds beat United, but Exeter beat Leeds - does that make Exeter better than United?

agree I guess...strange how people assume (and many are) that we will win the league next year..

[Saint_clark]

agree I guess...strange how people assume (and many are) that we will win the league next year..

 

Forget assumptions delldays, we are EXPECTING promotion next season.

You and Glasgow should be happy about that, surely...

[SFC Forever]

Did you completely ignore this part???????????

"If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style"

 

Ok and where have half of the team come from. Places like Exeter, Plymouth, southend, Colchester and all over the place.

A lot of our players that have recently arrived are well used to playing on pitches like that. So your argument because they now have our ground as a home pitch does not stand up as well as you think.

[Saint_clark]

Ok and where have half of the team come from. Places like Exeter, Plymouth, southend, Colchester and all over the place.

A lot of our players that have recently arrived are well used to playing on pitches like that. So your argument because they now have our ground as a home pitch does not stand up as well as you think.

 

Yes, and Seaborne, Puncheon and Barnard were probably our three best players yesterday.

[Genk]

Exeter should have won

 

No.

 

They may have shown KD tipping the shot onto the bar but they failed to show Lallana's easier chance in the second half when he hit it straight at the keeper from 6 yards out...somehow.

 

Draw was fair seeing as they had nothing in the first half. Tale of two halves you could say.

[Genk]

Watching the goal in slow motion, you would expect KD to come for that ball. Fonte got caught and Mills on the line didn't exactly do much. Looked like another case of Rudi hanging onto the post at Derby in the playoffs.

[The9]

The pitch wasn't even remotely flat...the left hand edge of the 6 yard box..could clearly see the lines marking it out from where i was standing...as the eyes moved towards the middle of the 6 yard box, you couldn't see bugger all. There must have been a 30 cm change in level over 6 metres. Ridiculous.

The grass was completely cut up by the end of the day too. Have played on better Sunday league pitches

 

Lower league pitches are often cambered from the centre to aid with drainage. Funnily enough Fratton Park is as well...

[The9]

Ok and where have half of the team come from. Places like Exeter, Plymouth, southend, Colchester and all over the place.

A lot of our players that have recently arrived are well used to playing on pitches like that. So your argument because they now have our ground as a home pitch does not stand up as well as you think.

 

It does also ignore that we stopped passing the ball on the deck at the start of December in favour of wanging it in the general vicinity of Lambert at the first opportunity, which seems to be the root of the problem to me. We've stopped dominating possession and wearing sides down in favour of the early ball forward and becoming massively predictable.

[The9]

Because, as I have tried to tell you countless times, football is not that clear cut.

Leeds beat United, but Exeter beat Leeds - does that make Exeter better than United?

 

Leeds ARE United.

[The9]

Watching the goal in slow motion, you would expect KD to come for that ball. Fonte got caught and Mills on the line didn't exactly do much. Looked like another case of Rudi hanging onto the post at Derby in the playoffs.

 

Probably, but watching it at normal speed should make people appreciate how impossible it is for a keeper to come out and collect a decent dead ball with pace on it. That's even if he's not being impeded, which is unlikely in a crowded area. Defenders should be able to deal with anything outside the 6 yard box.

[Saint_Donovan]

It does also ignore that we stopped passing the ball on the deck at the start of December in favour of wanging it in the general vicinity of Lambert at the first opportunity, which seems to be the root of the problem to me. We've stopped dominating possession and wearing sides down in favour of the early ball forward and becoming massively predictable.

 

 

This is absolute rubbish!!! we havent turned into wimbledon since december, I really am starting to question how many games people from this forum have actually witnessed this season.

[Andover_Saint07]

Read between the lines.

 

Pitch was the same for both sides - I want results, not excuses.

 

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4993892.Cortese_puts_Pardew_under_pressure/

 

As does cortese by the sounds of this

[sadoldgit]

Bit over the top?

 

I think he is taking the p*ss.

[St_Tel49]

Did you completely ignore this part???????????

"If you play on a cabbage patch every other week there is a good chance you will be able to deal with it better, we play on a billard table surface and find it more difficult to adapt to the conditions due to our style"

 

GS doesn't listen to opinions. He merely gives them.

[St Landrew]

Lower league pitches are often cambered from the centre to aid with drainage. Funnily enough Fratton Park is as well...

 

[Cough] So was The Dell's pitch. It's not just lower league pitches that are often cambered to the outer edges.

[The9]

[Cough] So was The Dell's pitch. It's not just lower league pitches that are often cambered to the outer edges.

 

There are far more in the lower leagues.

[landford.saint]

Lower league pitches are often cambered from the centre to aid with drainage. Funnily enough Fratton Park is as well...

 

This was not just the case of a camber centre to edges.... Usually a pitch slopes gently towards the out side to aide drainage .... Some like the old Yeovil pitch, slopes by even feet towards a corner (or one end)... but Exeters pitch although sloping towards the edges had areas that dipped and then rose again. The goal mouth at the away end was like a muudy bog. I am guessing the other end was the same but as i couldn,t see it properly from where I was i am only assuming... I lived in Exeter for some years and thye pitch has always been this bad... Cut up, and sticky uneven and wet..

According to the pre match annoucement they are looking to dig it up and add some drainage fro the first time in the grounds history!!!!!!!!

 

So the pitch was terrible and Exeter are used to it... But alot of our players didn,t look up for it, as though they had other mathches on their minds. And if they are the quality we know they can be, they should have coped with it better..

[DT]

Well he is looking more and more like Paul Jones.... and sounds like he is playing like him! Great shot stopper, but could not come for crosses. (Oh but Jones could not kick either) Still used to love Paul Jones a great servent to our club!

Totally agree. It's why we concede so many and is therefore why we won't make the play-offs.

[The9]

Totally agree. It's why we concede so many and is therefore why we won't make the play-offs.

 

Um, no. No keeper in the world would have been able to make the decision to collect that corner based on a split second of where it was landing and the players around. If he'd come and been blocked it would have been a much worse decision than staying.

[Andyb1]

Read between the lines.

 

Pitch was the same for both sides - I want results, not excuses.

 

Read between the lines of a comment from a non biased commentator? You really are a joker. Why don't you keep your inane stupid comments to yourself.

[Alanh]

Didn't go to the match or hear the commentry so have only read some of the comments on here and I had the impression that we were dreadful and werre luck to get a draw. Watching the hilights on the BBC sport site it looks like we created by far the better chances and a lot more than Exeter. they looked like they were struggling to contain the movement in our attacks. With a bit more careful finishing and probably a bit more luck we'd have been 3-0 up at half time. Based on the hilights that would have been enough to win the game comfortably despite Exeter coming back into it.

[cadiz saint]

By the way didn't Leeds visit Exeter lately?

[DT]

Um, no. No keeper in the world would have been able to make the decision to collect that corner based on a split second of where it was landing and the players around. If he'd come and been blocked it would have been a much worse decision than staying.

He never comes to collect. Mostly he does a little shuffle forward to make it look like he is considering it, then goes back, which totally foxes our defence and lets their strikers come on in. Maik Taylor would be nice.

[Alanh]

He never comes to collect. Mostly he does a little shuffle forward to make it look like he is considering it, then goes back, which totally foxes our defence and lets their strikers come on in. Maik Taylor would be nice.

 

Not true, I've seen him catch loads of crosses in matches at St Mary's and get a cheer from the crowd for doing so. I don't think he is any more indecisive on crosses than any other comparable level keeper nor is he a liability on them. A good fast cross is the most difficult thing for a keeper to deal with but that Exeter goal had as much to do with the quality of the cross and the inability of the defenders to prevent the attacking header as it did to whether Kelvin was able to get to it either for a catch or a punch.

[Bucks Saint]

Exeter OS report - given that this is bound to have an understandable bias, it still describes how well we played and how we came close to nicking it near the end too

 

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10436,00.html

[The9]

He never comes to collect. Mostly he does a little shuffle forward to make it look like he is considering it, then goes back, which totally foxes our defence and lets their strikers come on in. Maik Taylor would be nice.

 

I've seen him catch hundreds of crosses, you rarely see him totally misjudge one the way some kamikaze keepers do. That said, he's gone under a couple this season (notably a direct throw in a couple of weeks ago).

 

I think Bart's better at crosses but Kelvin's a better shot stopper.