Under Weststand Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Sky sports news reporting that Terry dropped as Captain, but not confirmed at this stage. My opinion its the right decision, I don't want him dropped but agree with the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 f*ck knows why. If my manager had an affair what would it have to do with me or anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 f*ck knows why. If my manager had an affair what would it have to do with me or anyone else? Because doing what he did with a team mates other arf is not good for morale, besides he is a nob ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Good, a leader should never in good conscience have an affair with a close friend and team mate's ex and children's mother, especially when the mate in question still has feelings for the girl and said captain is married!! The captain must be the leader on the pitch and manager's right hand, how on earth can the players give him their trust and word if he has a history of not caring about how they feel? Gerrard to succeed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Good, a leader should never in good conscience have an affair with a close friend and team mate's ex and children's mother, especially when the mate in question still has feelings for the girl and said captain is married!! Although she's Bridge's ex now, I'm pretty sure she wasn't when all this started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Although she's Bridge's ex now, I'm pretty sure she wasn't when all this started. She is still the mother of his child. And for the mother of his children to go with his club and national captain will have been unthinkable to him. (I would guess, and based on reports i've heard he was left distraught by this whole sorry state of affairs.) Nonetheless, he cheated. And the murky nature of it leaves him unsuitable to be captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 She is still the mother of his child. And for the mother of his children to go with his club and national captain will have been unthinkable to him. (I would guess, and based on reports i've heard he was left distraught by this whole sorry state of affairs.) Nonetheless, he cheated. And the murky nature of it leaves him unsuitable to be captain. Sorry I think you've misunderstood what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Sorry I think you've misunderstood what I said. Your point is that because they had seperated she has freedom to do what she wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I understand Terry refused to resign his captaincy and if true Capello has taken it off him. Right Decision, hope he gets dropped for a couple of games also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Your point is that because they had seperated she has freedom to do what she wants? No, my point is that they hadn't separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 No, my point is that they hadn't separated. Excuse me, I had been listening to radio reports since this broke claiming it had begun after they split, I had just glanced over what you typed and missread it based on that pre-conception. If that is the case then it further undermines him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Excuse me, I had been listening to radio reports since this broke claiming it had begun after they split, I had just glanced over what you typed and missread it based on that pre-conception. If that is the case then it further undermines him. According to this it was a four month affair, and as I understand it Wayne and his missus only broke up just before Christmas. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2840232/Toni-Terry-snapped-reading-tear-jerker-in-Dubai.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Great, nice one English press and society for actually caring about this over-the-top charade. Terry slips one to Bridge's ex. So what? It's got nothing to do with us or the World Cup - it's a matter for Terry, Bridge and the families concerned. Now we've got the fantastic prospect of re-appointing a captain (and whatever 'Andrew' Cole says "captains aren't that important" I'm ignoring. He's a guy who made a rap video about himself.) Rio Ferdinand 'Accidently' misses a drug test which led to his expulsion from Euro 2004. Thick, devoid of personality, error-prone and a thug (anyone who has watched him for years at United will testify that.) Merked... what a c()nt... Steven Gerrard Talented, yes. Captain material? No. Another thug and is probably the most frustrating to watch as an England fan. Never stays in his position, romping all over the field unbalancing the side in a Roy-Of-The-Rovers style. To be honest, whilst I do appreciate that he's a good footballer I think he's uncontrollable and that is to the detriment to the team. Deliberately poor positional sense but hey, if he beats two defenders or does a backheel that makes him a great player and ideal captain, right? Wayne Rooney England captain material? Honestly? No. Another footballer who has been reputed to be sleeping around and would probably make the worst kind of captain. Someone with obvious passion who puts the effort in and shouts alot - but shouts mostly negative and nonsensical stuff. Frank Lampard Possibly the only candidate, really. He's definitely the guy I'd replace Terry with if I had to (though I wouldn't have replaced Terry in the first place.) Previous experience, workmanlike, passionate and with a bit of nous and know-how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 A footballer nailing a bird....oh noes!!! if I was a prem footballer I would have been in troubled a million times by now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 5 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2010 f*ck knows why. If my manager had an affair what would it have to do with me or anyone else? I think if your manager either F*cked your partner, or maybe your best mate at works partner. Then I would think that it would cause problems at your place of buisness. Now I don't know the nature of your buisness, but I would expect it could damage the respect, & moral of the workforce hence damaging that buisness. Terry has done this to a supposed Mate, ex-club mate & still England team mate. This has obviously divided opinion in the England camp, and if reports are to be believed then several senior pros in the camp have expressed their opinion that he would be divisive. Don't forget that should Cashly get injured then Bridgey could well be our LB throughout the tournament, and he will be in the squad no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I strongly suspect him losing the captaincy isn't *just* because of the affair. There are a whole host of other allegations and past indiscretions - many of which will probably be in this weekend's papers - which added together make his position completely untenable. If he'd had any sort of half-decent advice from anyone, he'd have "honourably" resigned, rather than wait to be fired by Capello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Bring back Beckham!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vershinin Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Tough call but apart from Rooney, Terry is the only person who plays with the ****ing passion you need to play for England. He is the sort of guy we need as captain, and gutted he was such a cretin. Gerrard and Rio are too limp, not enough passion. Lets hope he continues to have an influence in the dressing room. He was an arse though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Rio's the new captain. Bit of a strange decision, he wouldn't even be in the side on merit at the moment. Better hope he sorts himself out on the pitch over the next couple of months, they really should have given it to Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Christ... What impression is Rio going to give to the rest of the world...he can't even speak properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I strongly suspect him losing the captaincy isn't *just* because of the affair. There are a whole host of other allegations and past indiscretions - many of which will probably be in this weekend's papers - which added together make his position completely untenable. All the previous stuff was well known, I'm sure Capello knew about him ****ing on a nightclub floor, parking in disabled spaces and the sending off for calling Ledley King a lippy monkey etc It seems strange that he appoints him and ignores the off the field stuff and despite him having one of his best seasons for a few years takes the captaincy away because of what's happened off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 All the previous stuff was well known, I'm sure Capello knew about him ****ing on a nightclub floor, parking in disabled spaces and the sending off for calling Ledley King a lippy monkey etc It seems strange that he appoints him and ignores the off the field stuff and despite him having one of his best seasons for a few years takes the captaincy away because of what's happened off the pitch. Who knows!? he may of had a chat with Terry before handing it to him and said "i dont agree with what you've done, you have one chance - dont blow it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Who knows!? he may of had a chat with Terry before handing it to him and said "i dont agree with what you've done, you have one chance - dont blow it" Fair point. Capello hasn't made a mistake yet so i'll go with him. I just hope this doesn't turn into an excuse for us not doing well at the world cup, I don't want to see the press blaiming Capello for taking the captaincy away. I often think with England the armband should just go to the outfield player with the most caps. Would solve a lot of problems, I'm sure people like Gerrard, Terry, Beckham and Rio are all captains on the pitch anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Anyways, Terry doesn't have to be captain to be a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Don't agree with his recent antics off the field, don't care too much for his previous antics, don't care too much for his wife she knew what he was all about before marrying him and what was it George Bush said "fool me once shame....whatever", kids ? his and hers responsibility not mine or the countrys, the sp(_)nk dustbin that is Bridges ex...due to the celebrity culture will go onto make over a mil but break up a few families along the way. As has been posted, due to the FA to be seen to be doing the right thing we struggle to agree on who should captain our national side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 david beckham would be my choice.. looking at the squad..he is the ultimate pro IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 In today's world it seems as if we always have to have some sort of scapegoat to bring down. BUT The guy did wrong. He picked up the father of the year award while knowing in his head he was having an affair and for me that is what i don't like. He lied to people and he should of come out and dealt with it. Like with most of these types of things he is only sorry that he was caught. He isn't the first and won't be the last. So in my view he should of grown a pair and offered to resign himself. If you are someone in a position in the publics eye then that is your duty. You know the rules and you accept them as part of your position. The England captain has to be someone who is a proper role model to people i.e Bobby Moore etc. If you think you can't be like that then fair enough, be like that, but don't try and lie your something when really your the total opposite. Fabio did the right thing. A lot of the England team are rumoured to not be happy, obviously if it keeps things in order then it will turn out to be the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 ..he is the ultimate pro IMO As is Bridges ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Great, nice one English press and society for actually caring about this over-the-top charade. Terry slips one to Bridge's ex. So what? It's got nothing to do with us or the World Cup - it's a matter for Terry, Bridge and the families concerned. If Ashley Cole picks up an injury before the summer Terry and Bridge would be team mates. Surely what Terry has done would undermine the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Give the captaincy to Rooney imo, as per my thread on this board earlier this month. He seems to be the only player that actually gives a f*ck when he plays, and he's young enough to be captain for perhaps 10 years, whereas Terry will only really have another 3 or 4 years left in his international career with younger centre backs coming through the ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 Rio has been given the captaincy and Gerrard is second in line, confirmed by Capello himself. I just hope Rio can stay fit, seeing Gerrard wear the armband in the WC would make me sick, I'm not really sure I would be able to support them in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 If Ashley Cole picks up an injury before the summer Terry and Bridge would be team mates. Surely what Terry has done would undermine the team? I have been told that Ashley Cole might be involved in the whole scandal aswell...... coming out in this weekends news apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I have been told that Ashley Cole might be involved in the whole scandal aswell...... coming out in this weekends news apparently. I got told the same... Apparently Terry, Drogba, Gudjohnsen and Cole have all had a go on Bridgeys missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I've not got a real opinion on either Terry's behaviour or his sacking as captain. The latter is up to Fabio as far as I'm concerned and he's a better judge of the matter than I could ever be. I do, however, find the sheer hypocrisy of the media and the English public quite astounding. In any event, I would worry more about the effect of all this on the innocent parties i.e. Wayne Bridge and John Terry's wife and their respective children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 No, my point is that they hadn't separated. I think I entered the twilight zone reading these opening posts. Colin where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 5 February, 2010 Share Posted 5 February, 2010 I've not got a real opinion on either Terry's behaviour or his sacking as captain. The latter is up to Fabio as far as I'm concerned and he's a better judge of the matter than I could ever be. I do, however, find the sheer hypocrisy of the media and the English public quite astounding. In any event, I would worry more about the effect of all this on the innocent parties i.e. Wayne Bridge and John Terry's wife and their respective children. Well said, BTF []. Myself, I've had the misfortune of listening to Talksport during this week, while working. I say misfortune, because I've had to put up with it, but it has been oddly entertaining too. To hear the presenters everyday, harp on about the tabloids biting into the scandal, and yet they are just as culpable in their own way, by bringing it to the public attention, ad nauseum. I don't buy the claim that there is infinite public interest for this. This is the most overhyped story since the last overhyped story. Capello thought it a non-story, as he took 12 minutes to end his part of it. In the real world people are still dying from the Haitian earthquake. I don't expect TalkSPORT to bring that to anyone's attention [although an appeal featuring John Hurt rang out once or twice a day, and NO, I don't pick that example because I was reminded by the appeal], but I do expect programme directors to realise that the Terry/Bridge type of issue has been ruminated through time and time again, and they need to start to take their own responsibility for getting it into perspective. Apparently, there is a continual public call for this news. I don't believe it. I think people talk about things that the media massage us into talking about. Sadly, we are all media sheep, to a greater or lesser extent. But some of us are well aware of the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 Rio has been given the captaincy and Gerrard is second in line, confirmed by Capello himself. I just hope Rio can stay fit, seeing Gerrard wear the armband in the WC would make me sick, I'm not really sure I would be able to support them in the same way. Why? I find Terry more of an unpleasant little **** than Stevie...they're mostly all ****s anyway...apart from Theo and Wayne. There. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 Crouch and becks are alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 I am in two minds if I now want England to win the thing...the thought of Sir Rio Ferdinand makes me sick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 In today's world it seems as if we always have to have some sort of scapegoat to bring down. BUT The guy did wrong. He picked up the father of the year award while knowing in his head he was having an affair and for me that is what i don't like. He lied to people and he should of come out and dealt with it. Like with most of these types of things he is only sorry that he was caught. He isn't the first and won't be the last. So in my view he should of grown a pair and offered to resign himself. If you are someone in a position in the publics eye then that is your duty. You know the rules and you accept them as part of your position. The England captain has to be someone who is a proper role model to people i.e Bobby Moore etc. If you think you can't be like that then fair enough, be like that, but don't try and lie your something when really your the total opposite. Fabio did the right thing. A lot of the England team are rumoured to not be happy, obviously if it keeps things in order then it will turn out to be the right decision. It's football. Just football. None of us have a right to either know or care about a private and personal issue. It doesn't matter and it shouldn't matter. i really don't understand how people can care about the private lives of people they don't know. I mean that "father of the year" stuff - when he won that did thousands of blokes suddenly wake up and say, "You know what? I really should be more like John Terry"? It's Doubtful. Oh and just to chuck something else into the mix: Bobby Robson, remember him? We all love him right? Great bloke etc etc......well his personal life was rumoured to be full of affairs but the difference is that they hardly ever got out. It doesn't affect how we look at him now and thankfully it didn't when he was England manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 Give the captaincy to Rooney imo, as per my thread on this board earlier this month. He seems to be the only player that actually .... Is this the Rooney that used to frequent 'prostitute grannies' ? Rio has been given the captaincy and Gerrard is second in line, confirmed by Capello himself. I just hope Rio can stay fit, seeing Gerrard wear the armband in the WC would make me sick, I'm not really sure I would be able to support them in the same way. Disagree,I prefer Gerrard the winebar brawler to Rio the drug cheat. I have been told that Ashley Cole might be involved in the whole scandal aswell...... coming out in this weekends news apparently. Is this more mobile phone revealations ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 6 February, 2010 Share Posted 6 February, 2010 Is this the Rooney that used to frequent 'prostitute grannies' ? ... At least they weren't grannies of his teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 9 February, 2010 Share Posted 9 February, 2010 Another little problem. http://theoriginalwinger.com/2010-02-04-rent-john-terrys-box-at-wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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