New Shirt Design Revealed??

[Matthew Le God]

if we lose the stripes i will not be pleased! havin no sponsor would not ruin them for a change with a rubbish plastic sticker! the recent saints fc have always been in stripes, not about gettin rid of them!

 

It is a one year anniversary kit. It would go back to stripes from 2011 onwards. It is 125 year anniversary and you don't get much more traditional than wearing the first kit you ever wore 125 years ago.

 

As for your point about recent Saints kits always being stripes. The most successful decade in the league was that of the 1980's and Saints didn't have stripes from 1980 to 1989. I think that is recent.

[Scudamore]

 

How about this version of those above - I like the idea of using the sash but integrating the stripes? :smt045

 

Now that i like

[Saint Fan CaM]

Now that i like

 

 

Thankyou - kudos to Gecko though.

[thesaint sfc]

almost brought a tear to my eye! I feel all warm a gooey inside

[Village Saint]

 

I really hope this isn't true. Everyone needs to speak out in the strongest possible terms. This would be the worst mistake since the raspberry ripple shirt. Saints wear red and white vertical stripes. It is as simple as that. Someone needs to explain to these morons that we are NOT Crystal Palace. Surely we didn't fight the save our stripes battle just for this?

[SaintNeil90]

really like this....seems unique too (in england)

 

Not really... Crystal Palace did a similar white kit with sash last season.

http://img254.imageshack.us/i/palace0809dj0.gif/

[Matthew Le God]

I really hope this isn't true. Everyone needs to speak out in the strongest possible terms. This would be the worst mistake since the raspberry ripple shirt. Saints wear red and white vertical stripes. It is as simple as that. Someone needs to explain to these morons that we are NOT Crystal Palace. Surely we didn't fight the save our stripes battle just for this?

 

It is a one off, one season kit. Why do you have an issue with that?

 

It will be back to red and white stripes in 2011. You can't get more traditional in celebrating 125 years than wearing the kit you first wore in 1885.

 

btw Crystal Palace didn't start wearing red/blue until the 1970's and Leeds didn't play in white until the 1960's.

[Gingeletiss]

It is a one off, one season kit. Why do you have an issue with that?

 

It will be back to red and white stripes in 2011. You can't get more traditional in celebrating 125 years than wearing the kit you first wore in 1885.

 

btw Crystal Palace didn't start wearing red/blue until the 1970's and Leeds didn't play in white until the 1960's.

 

I can't understand why all think that we are a 'traditional' red and white stripe team, we didn't start life like that!!

[krissyboy31]

It is a one off, one season kit. Why do you have an issue with that?

 

It will be back to red and white stripes in 2011. You can't get more traditional in celebrating 125 years than wearing the kit you first wore in 1885.

 

Couldn't agree more! We get this debate every time a new away kit and people protesting that if the shirt is not yellow, it is not Saints. Southampton never wore yellow before the 1976 FA Cup final, therefore that is not "traditional" either.

[Crab Lungs]

A kit debate and no sign of 'The 9'

 

We truly are living in an alternate universe

[Smirking_Saint]

From 1885 to 1974 saints did NOT have white socks.

 

From 1885 to 1938 Saints did NOT have black shorts.

 

From 1885 to 1896 and 1980 to 1989 Saints did NOT have red and white stripes.

 

From 1885 to 1974 Saints did NOT have this badge...

 

 

That is 89 years out of the clubs 125 years WITHOUT that fan designed 1970's badge.

 

Time for a badge redesign Mr Cortese. Those that think the badge has historically always been part of the club need to think again.

 

36 years out of 125 years is not alot!

 

Whats wrong with the badge ?? I like the badge ??

 

Whats your point ??

[Matthew Le God]

Whats wrong with the badge ?? I like the badge ??

 

Whats your point ??

 

My point is the badge has the look of an amateur design from the 70's. Which is exactly what it was. A fan competition to design a badge in 1974.

 

The club is 125 years old. The current badge has only existed for 36 years of those 125 years. For 89 years Saints didn't have that cartoony monstrosity! So history is no excuse for the badge to remain.

 

The club could do better, for a start the 1885 badge looks a lot better and you can't get more traditional than using the first badge.

[Scummer]

I really hope this isn't true. Everyone needs to speak out in the strongest possible terms. This would be the worst mistake since the raspberry ripple shirt. Saints wear red and white vertical stripes. It is as simple as that. Someone needs to explain to these morons that we are NOT Crystal Palace. Surely we didn't fight the save our stripes battle just for this?

 

Most people seem to be ok with the idea. It's only for a year.

[westofshannonsaint]

i thought we had stripes in the '80s, just fat ones.

 

The 1980 to 1985 kits you refer to had one white stripe, that isn't plural "stripes".

 

Sorry to be pedantic but under the sleeves are white as well. For 112 out of the 125 year history Saints have played in Stripes. I associate stripes with Saints & versa visa.

 

1985 to 1987 Saints had NO white stripes at all.

 

interestingly that was the centenary shirt.

[Right sider]

Personally I think the plain sash design works best, will need to incorporate some reference in the design for the 125 year significance so keep it simple and it'll be a classic piece of design rather than fashionable for now. You only have to look at the 90's kits to see how a design goes out of style.

[once_bitterne]

I really hope this isn't true. Everyone needs to speak out in the strongest possible terms. This would be the worst mistake since the raspberry ripple shirt. Saints wear red and white vertical stripes. It is as simple as that. Someone needs to explain to these morons that we are NOT Crystal Palace. Surely we didn't fight the save our stripes battle just for this?

 

I wonder if most of the people compaining so much about a sash kit are ones not old enough to remember us playing throughout the 80s in non-striped kits?

 

ANyway, I thought the Save Our Stripes battle was lost as the Uefa cup shirt had no stripes on the back.

[ponto1963]

Whats wrong with the badge ?? I like the badge ??

 

Whats your point ??

 

I agree keep the badge, but with old style ball . Just change the dates etc. on this one

[sotonianproud]

He's already been busy...see wear a shirt thread.

 

 

 

Love it, hope it does look something like that

[westofshannonsaint]

...........

 

The club is 125 years old. The current badge has only existed for 36 years of those 125 years. For 89 years Saints didn't have that cartoony monstrosity! So history is no excuse for the badge to remain.

 

The club could do better, for a start the 1885 badge looks a lot better and you can't get more traditional than using the first badge.

 

that's my argument against the sash I do see your point though and quite like this effort taken from the other thread.

 

[Matthew Le God]

that's my argument against the sash

 

What is your argument against the sash?

 

It is a one year commemorative kit. Will be back to stripes in 2011.

[docker-p]

This is a really really bad idea. I hate it.

 

The Daily Express starts off by saying " SAints are about to ditch one of the most famous striped kits in football" Exactly.

 

How many seasons did we have in that poxy white shirt/ red diaganal kit, and how many in red and white stripes?????

 

Everyone who knows of Saints worldwide knows of us as playing in red and white stripes.

 

It takes years to build heritage and only a few moments to reduce it to garbage.

[Matthew Le God]

It takes years to build heritage and only a few moments to reduce it to garbage.

 

It is for one season.

[Leyton Lundekvam]

This is a really really bad idea. I hate it.

 

The Daily Express starts off by saying " SAints are about to ditch one of the most famous striped kits in football" Exactly.

 

How many seasons did we have in that poxy white shirt/ red diaganal kit, and how many in red and white stripes?????

 

Everyone who knows of Saints worldwide knows of us as playing in red and white stripes.

 

It takes years to build heritage and only a few moments to reduce it to garbage.

Agreed.

[SamKimish]

To be honest, I don't think it really matters too much what shirt we wear, more the performances of the people that wear it on the pitch.

 

As long as it has red and white somwhere, I will buy it as it is not only a commemorative shirt, but a sign that we as a football club are heading in a positive direction for a change.

[Smirking_Saint]

I agree keep the badge, but with old style ball . Just change the dates etc. on this one

 

I can see the point there, for a single year.

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

 

Could this be a compromise solution? Might the new shirt actually look like a bit like this do you think?

[Matthew Le God]

I agree keep the badge, but with old style ball . Just change the dates etc. on this one

 

In 1985 Saints had that badge for 11 years out of 100.

 

Not exactly commemorative of 100 years.

[DT]

Why is it on that pikey England shirt? Presumably you have to add horrible scraggy grey sweatpands and Fila/Reebok white trainers too...

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Why does every bloody shirt suggestion have to have a f'ing collar? Whats wrong with a round neck?

 

Oh - and i think the sash looks better than the stripes anyway. I personally would be happy to ditch the stripes for good.

[Dog]

Why does every bloody shirt suggestion have to have a f'ing collar? Whats wrong with a round neck?

 

Let's go with tradition, and make it a grandad shirt style neck.

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

Why does every bloody shirt suggestion have to have a f'ing collar? Whats wrong with a round neck?

 

Probably cos it's a lot easier to adapt the design that Gecko did than spend hours starting from scratch!

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Let's go with tradition, and make it a grandad shirt style neck.

 

Or maybe a roll neck?

[krissyboy31]

Let's go with tradition, and make it a grandad shirt style neck.

 

Could have a tie-up like Manyoo did with their Newton Heath yellow and green kit.

[Dog]

Or maybe a roll neck?

 

I like it.

[Huntingdon]

 

Could this be a compromise solution? Might the new shirt actually look like a bit like this do you think?

 

I much prefer that to the single sash versions

[Wes Tender]

It takes years to build heritage and only a few moments to reduce it to garbage.

 

So you won't mind at all if we ditch the current badge and replace it with one that had a lot more history behind it? Although I've grown used to it, I personally agree with the opinion expressed that it looks exactly like what it is; a badge designed for a competition.

 

SaintJackoInHurworth

Could this be a compromise solution? Might the new shirt actually look like a bit like this do you think? http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2671/saintjackosnewkitidea.jpg

 

I don't dislike that.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I really hope this isn't true. Everyone needs to speak out in the strongest possible terms. This would be the worst mistake since the raspberry ripple shirt. Saints wear red and white vertical stripes. It is as simple as that. Someone needs to explain to these morons that we are NOT Crystal Palace. Surely we didn't fight the save our stripes battle just for this?

 

if I was a 135 year old fan I would disagree with you and you should have seen the furore in 1896 when they went from red and white halves to stripes. A mob gathered at the Bargate and the mayor was thrown into the duck pond on the Common.

 

 

 

You simply cannot get more traditional than the 1st strip.

I think everyone should calm down - its a one off for one year.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Could have a tie-up like Manyoo did with their Newton Heath yellow and green kit.

 

Nah. I was a little bit sick in my mouth when i read that.

[hypochondriac]

Ffs it's for one season! Is anyone actually that bothered about what we play in for one year?

[Scummer]

Why is it on that pikey England shirt? Presumably you have to add horrible scraggy grey sweatpands and Fila/Reebok white trainers too...

 

I guess because it's Umbro, who also make Saints kit. And it's a traditional style, which would fit.

[Scummer]

Ffs it's for one season! Is anyone actually that bothered about what we play in for one year?

 

I wonder if the Arsenal fans went mental when they played in purple for their centenary.

[Our Claus]

In 1985 Saints had that badge for 11 years out of 100.

 

Not exactly commemorative of 100 years.

 

Yet having a sash kit, worn for 6 years (tops), is properly commemorative of 125?

 

You simply cannot get more traditional than the 1st strip.

I think everyone should calm down - its a one off for one year.

 

The idea that you can't get more traditional than wearing a re-creation of our first ever kit is, frankly, bizarre. The traditional Southampton kit is red and white stripes. A tradition is something you build up over a long history. Its what you usually do. It is not what your first attempt at something was. For 100+ out of our 125 years, Saints have worn red and white STRIPES. That is our tradition. To say anything else is just wrong.

 

Look, while i'd prefer if we stuck with a stripy commemorative kit, it doesn't particularly bother me if we have a one-year sash kit, I mean fine, whatever. But at least everyone get your arguments straight!

 

Now I'm not saying you can't break with tradition - just for a change, or for a special occasion or something. But Saints are a red and white stripey team, and I for one hope we stay that way.

 

Oh, and on the logo - firstly our current logo is great. Its distinctive, instantly identifiable, and it has actual meaning associating itself to the club's history and the local area. Ideal combination. And while it may only have been around since the '70s, it is by far the logo that Saints are most associated with because it has been in use for the vast majority of the time that logos (in general) have been a major team identifier - ie since they started being on the shirts.

 

I'm not saying there shouldn't be a commemorative one, but I say go with the centenary one, or with the FA Cup circle version. Not some random mish-mash.

 

Ffs it's for one season! Is anyone actually that bothered about what we play in for one year?

 

But, in general, hypo does have a point.

[lettuce]

I like the badge as it is. So what if it's not been around "that" long in the grand scheme of things? So what if it looks a bit "amateurish"? The main thing is that it is instantly recognisable as Saints, and that, for me, is the most important factor. There are other clubs that have quite "amateurish" looking badges but they're an integral part of the club's identity... Wolves, Sheff Weds, Nottingham Forest are all instantly recognisable but could have been designed by a primary school pupil!

 

I don't want to sound like a party pooper, but 125 seems like a fairly arbitrary anniversary to make a big fuss over... was such a big deal made over the 100th anniversary? (I was only 7 at the time and hadn't started following football so don't know how that occassion was marked)

[Window Cleaner]

 

C A River Plate right? Always have used the historic shirt,away version is black with the same sash.

[Matthew Le God]

 

Interesting to see they couldn't agree which shoulder to have the sash over!

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Ffs it's for one season! Is anyone actually that bothered about what we play in for one year?

 

I dont give a toss what they play in, but I would quite like buying a saints shirt I wouldnt mind wearing myself.

[The9]

The 1980 to 1985 kits you refer to had one white stripe, that isn't plural "stripes". I wouldn't say Ajax played in red and white stripes.

 

1985 to 1987 Saints had NO white stripes at all.

 

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/images/southampton_1985-1987.gif

 

Actually the 1980-5 kit had stripes because the red front-side parts didn't extend to the side of the shirt, the side being white. So it was actually a broad white stripe and two narrow white stripes at the side, with red in between.

 

No arguing the 85-7 kit though, red with bits.

Edited 5 February, 2010 by The9

[krissyboy31]

 

Interesting to see they couldn't agree which shoulder to have the sash over!

 

The left sided players had them over the left shoulder and right sided over the right. Not sure what the central players did, wore them as a hoop around their chest?

 

 

 

I might have just made that up!

[DT]

 

Interesting to see they couldn't agree which shoulder to have the sash over!

Pardew should be forced to wear a bowler hat too.

[westofshannonsaint]

What is your argument against the sash?

 

.. For 112 out of the 125 year history Saints have played in Stripes. I associate stripes with Saints & versa visa.

 

which is a very similar argument to...

 

....

The club is 125 years old. The current badge has only existed for 36 years of those 125 years........ So history is no excuse for the badge to remain.

 

Yet having a sash kit, worn for 6 years (tops), is properly commemorative of 125?

 

The idea that you can't get more traditional than wearing a re-creation of our first ever kit is, frankly, bizarre. The traditional Southampton kit is red and white stripes. A tradition is something you build up over a long history. Its what you usually do. It is not what your first attempt at something was. For 100+ out of our 125 years, Saints have worn red and white STRIPES. That is our tradition. To say anything else is just wrong.

 

See Claus gets it.

 

I am still happy to get a shirt without an add on the front, but not as happy as I was when I thought it would be red and white striped.