New Shirt Design Revealed??

[Matthew Le God]

Your point is?

 

Well if you read what I said I asked for a new badge design rather than the one designed in a competition in 1974 and has only existed for 36 years out of the clubs 125 years. Also that the kit hasn't always been red and white stripes, black shorts and white socks.

[Pancake]

Your point is?

 

That he can use Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V from previous threads.

[Colinjb]

From 1885 to 1974 saints did NOT have white socks.

 

From 1885 to 1938 Saints did NOT have black shorts.

 

From 1885 to 1896 and 1980 to 1989 Saints did NOT have red and white stripes.

 

From 1885 to 1974 Saints did NOT have this badge...

 

 

That is 89 years out of the clubs 125 years WITHOUT that fan designed 1970's badge.

 

Time for a badge redesign Mr Cortese. Those that think the badge has historically always been part of the club need to think again.

 

36 years out of 125 years is not alot!

 

Yes, clubs evolve.

 

But the identity of the club is widely accepted, right now, as being that fan designed Logo and red and white stripes, black shorts and white socks (with black and red trim).

 

A one of special shirt for our 125 anniversary is a wonderful idea, but overall I would expect most fans to want us to remain with the colour schemes and shield we already possess.

 

A fascinating debate all the same though!

Edited 5 February, 2010 by Colinjb

[Matthew Le God]

Don't get me wrong I want the team to keep red/white stripes, black shorts, red and white socks.

 

What I do want is a new badge based on the original 1885 badge and a one year 2010/11 anniversary red sash 1885 shirt.

[Charlie Wayman]

I bet Cortese will try to sign up Nestle as shirt sponsor next year and if rumours of the red sash are near the mark for next year then maybe the swiss red cross the year after is not quite so fanciful have some on here have posited.

 

I hope this isn't the end for our red & white stripes? The First Workld war started for a lesser reason..

[funkymojo44]

We should have the ultimate traditional strip reflecting 125 years - that'll be the red sash design tbf.

[Trumush]

Don't get me wrong I want the team to keep red/white stripes, black shorts, red and white socks.

 

What I do want is a new badge based on the original 1885 badge and a one year 2010/11 anniversary red sash 1885 shirt.

 

I can't see a problem with this for a one off, one year only anniversary edition.

[iansums]

Mods, I think it's time for a Stripes or Sash poll, unless of course you want it resolved like this:

 

 

I go for Stripes.

[Lets B Avenue]

As a STH I am bit disappointed that non investers into the club were served coffee by NC. Perhaps he is planning to visit us all personally?

 

I queued from 2.00pm for over 2 hours. Felt he could have served my afternoon pint.

 

On second thoughts, not until they get something half-decent in.

[EBS1980]

I don't think anyone is saying get rid of the stripes, we are having a one off shirt for next season to celebrate our 125yrs, so whats the harm in having next seasons kit like the one we started out like? Then the following season our stripes will be back. Simples!

[Matthew Le God]

Simples!

 

As one Meerkat said to another.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

i really really hope we DON'T get something like that. Our tradition red and white stripes, lets keep it

 

You can't get any more traditional than going back to your first ever kit

[yorkie]

I suppose we should now have a picture of a crane in place of the oak tree - a Liebherr crane!

 

Let's get rid of the wave reflecting our port heritage as a safe harbour.

 

That Hampshire rose should go too!

 

I like the football and the halo but scarves are so 1970's.

 

My suggestion - a football with a halo and a Liebherr crane in the middle of the football - it could just work!

 

I seem to recall the original badge had three hampshire roses on a shield - two small ones at the top and a big one at the bottom!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

You can't get any more traditional than going back to your first ever kit

 

And if anyone is interested I actually have one of the original sashes

[Cricketphilly]

Your point is?

 

The badge did and does look like it was the winner in a child's drawing competiton.

[xerox]

And if anyone is interested I actually have one of the original sashes

 

any pictures?

[Scummer]

I suppose we should now have a picture of a crane in place of the oak tree - a Liebherr crane!

 

Let's get rid of the wave reflecting our port heritage as a safe harbour.

 

That Hampshire rose should go too!

 

I like the football and the halo but scarves are so 1970's.

 

My suggestion - a football with a halo and a Liebherr crane in the middle of the football - it could just work!

 

I seem to recall the original badge had three hampshire roses on a shield - two small ones at the top and a big one at the bottom!

 

How many times does it need to be said that Marcus doesn't have anything to do with the Liebherr company. His company is Mali.

[SFC Forever]

Seriously, people are going to moan about a one off special shirt without a sponsor to commemorate our football heritage? There really is no pleasing some people.

 

I love the one off design and look forward to buying a shirt.Thank you NC.

 

Snap.

whatever is decided we will buy the shirt and in a lot of cases two. One for use and one for posterity.

[SFC Forever]

And if anyone is interested I actually have one of the original sashes

 

I would love to see it.

[Foxy]

If it's stripes or a sash I don't care. It's just great to see the club on the move in the right direction again.

 

Dead right, if we won promotion and had a good cup run I wouldn't care if the players did it wearing ball gowns and tiaras

[Scudamore]

Dead right, if we won promotion and had a good cup run I wouldn't care if the players did it wearing ball gowns and tiaras

 

Cue Matthew Le God saying how that would be against FA regulations

[Joensuu]

If you remove the tacky advertising a larger than usual number of shirts will be purchased (who wants to be a walking billboard?)

 

If you sell more shirts than usual and they are too similar to the next years kit, you won't shift as many shirts as usual next season. I.e. if the club were to do a once of special 'striped' shirt, the subsequent season's striped kit (with sponsorship) won't sell an well as usual.

 

The only sensible thing for the club to do would be to make the 125year kit significantly different from the usual striped kit. A year with a red sash ticks all of the boxes.

[david in sweden]

I like this bit!!

 

"as new chairman Nicola Cortese looks to turn them into the South Coast’s answer to Barcelona"

 

 

Although it doesn't actually said he has ever said that.

 

 

" ...you dirty rat, you shot my brudder !" :smt067

( yes well, James Cagney didn't actually say that either ....) OFFICIAL

 

I wonder what other journalistic jewels the " Echo/Express" will come up with..

I bet even they don't know when Rudi Skacel will sign ....

[sadoldgit]

Sorry, but I don't think were are SFC without the red and white stripes.

[Saint_Jonny]

 

I loooooove this one!

[Matthew Le God]

I doubt Umbro would do the three stripe detail on the sash. Makes it look like an Adidas kit!

[Wycombe Saint]

 

I loooooove this one!

 

 

Very nice!!! Would definately buy that.

[SaintNeil90]

How about a red and white stripped version of the England Kit, with this badge

http://uefaclubs.com/images/Southampton-FC@2.-old-logo.png

 

Also I dont agree with the guy saying red & white stripes are not tradition and we have not always had them... Since the club has been 'Southampton', 42 out of 45 kits have been stripped.

[yorkiesaint]

This just a continuing war with the echo. A driect response to the echo article in the express. Cortese fights back by doing an early morning tea run and feeding the story to the express, along with some hook about a new shirt. It is all very cynical in my view, and dangerous to mess with the press. I fear one day it will come to haunt him..

[Danny R]

He's already been busy...see wear a shirt thread.

 

 

 

 

All these 3 mock ups look amazing, so bored of stripes.

[Highfield Saint]

The shirt I have always liked and really wished I had bought was the Bucharest away shirt.

 

Wouldnt mind something along those lines myself...

[Gingeletiss]

Sorry, but I don't think were are SFC without the red and white stripes.

 

Red and white stripes....Stoke!!!!!......SOG, add the clues!!!!

[Andyb1]

I like red and white stripes thanks

[Matthew Le God]

I like red and white stripes thanks

 

It is for one season ffs

 

It will go back to red and white stripes afterwards.

[alpine_saint]

From 1885 to 1974 saints did NOT have white socks.

 

From 1885 to 1938 Saints did NOT have black shorts.

 

From 1885 to 1896 and 1980 to 1989 Saints did NOT have red and white stripes.

 

From 1885 to 1974 Saints did NOT have this badge...

 

 

That is 89 years out of the clubs 125 years WITHOUT that fan designed 1970's badge.

 

Time for a badge redesign Mr Cortese. Those that think the badge has historically always been part of the club need to think again.

 

36 years out of 125 years is not alot!

 

Indeed.

 

I am quite happy for the red-and-white stripes to take a kit period off this time round. I prefer the quarter design to the diagonal stripe though.

[alpine_saint]

Sorry, but I don't think were are SFC without the red and white stripes.

 

So SFC didnt exist from 1980 to 1989 then ?

 

:rolleyes:

 

Christ some of our fans are so boring.

[saint_stevo]

the diagonal stripe suits me. Look crap in vertial stripes.

[northam soul]

All these 3 mock ups look amazing, so bored of stripes.

 

Why not continue the three white stripes all the way up the red sash then everyones happy - are they not.

You have the original stle with partial stripes giving it a modern look,can someone mock that up.

My design fees are ?

[DT]

You can't get any more traditional than going back to your first ever kit

Oh dear. Mine was Liverpool away.

[Arizona]

Would love it if this design was true. The white with red sash is as much a part of Saints history as the red and white stripes. Would be a fantastic one off design.

[Wes Tender]

This just a continuing war with the echo. A driect response to the echo article in the express. Cortese fights back by doing an early morning tea run and feeding the story to the express, along with some hook about a new shirt. It is all very cynical in my view, and dangerous to mess with the press. I fear one day it will come to haunt him..

 

I bow to your superior knowledge of the internal workings of the club. You obviously have intelligence gathered that proves that there was a PR initiative that deliberately had the article placed in the Express as a direct way to show NC in a good light.

 

I shan't ask you from whom you obtained this intelligence, as I realise that your source would prefer to remain anonymous and would undoubtedly deny that there was any PR initiative instigated by Cortese anyway.

 

We'll just have to accept that as you're such a respected and creditable poster, that what you say is true.

[Secret Site Agent]

"Fans queueing overnight for tickets to the FA Cup game against local rivals Portsmouth were surprised to be greeted at 6.30am yesterday by Cortese carrying trays of coffee."

 

Nice stuff!

 

 

Didn't say nothing about the Echo delivering croissants. They could have you know

[yorkiesaint]

So SFC didnt exist from 1980 to 1989 then ?

 

:rolleyes:

 

Christ some of our fans are so boring.

 

i thought we had stripes in the '80s, just fat ones.

[Scudamore]

i thought we had stripes in the '80s, just fat ones.

 

my take on it as well...

[Matthew Le God]

i thought we had stripes in the '80s, just fat ones.

 

The 1980 to 1985 kits you refer to had one white stripe, that isn't plural "stripes". I wouldn't say Ajax played in red and white stripes.

 

1985 to 1987 Saints had NO white stripes at all.

 

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/images/southampton_1985-1987.gif

Edited 5 February, 2010 by Matthew Le God

[VectisSaint]

And if anyone is interested I actually have one of the original sashes

Duncan - do you know, was the original shirt actually plain white and a loose sash was worn over it, or was the sash actually an integral part of the shirt? I thought back in those days teams used sashes over plain shirts so that they could distinguish against other teams wearing the same colours. Teams didn't have change strips back then hence the use of sashes if I recall (I wasn't actually around then, honest).

[Dynamo Naive]

The badge did and does look like it was the winner in a child's drawing competiton.

 

 

Speak for yourself – I love the badge. And a new one is going to mean lots of expensive and painful tattoo removal.

[goodymatt]

if we lose the stripes i will not be pleased! havin no sponsor would not ruin them for a change with a rubbish plastic sticker! the recent saints fc have always been in stripes, not about gettin rid of them!

[Saint Fan CaM]

 

How about this version of those above - I like the idea of using the sash but integrating the stripes? :smt045

[Thedelldays]

 

I loooooove this one!

 

really like this....seems unique too (in england)