Hatch Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 (edited) I am really looking forward to this event. Watching the opening ceremony now. Faldo is going on a bit though. So for the next 72 hours or so I am going to be a European. RYDER CUP OPENING FOURSOMES Mickelson/Kim v H'ngton/Karlsson Leonard/Mahan v Stenson/Casey Cink/Campbell v Rose/Poulter Perry/Furyk v Westwood/Garcia Edited 19 September, 2008 by Hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Me too mate! Can't wait! Was thinking the same thing bout Faldo tho, talkin bout every member of his family etc.... All your money on there being a hole in 1. Top Tip. 16-12 Europe i reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 me too. have had these 3 days cleared in my diary all year. get up, walk the dog, bit of brekkie, few bets on ladbroke.com, then get settled around 12.45, moving only for my team game saturday afternoon cant wait, but think this ones going to be close. and you know who is going to get blamed by the papers if we lose by half a point on the 18th on Sunday ps, mrs keith saw that my diary was clear for tommrow, so arranged for us to go to a ****ing wedding reception. in the words of johnny ball, think again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Obviously I hope Europe win again, but Faldo really is a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 I cant see faldo's logic with the morning Foursomes. Think two of the pairings (Poulter/rose & stenson/casey) are more what i'd consider fourball pairings. Hansen and Jimmy are far steadier players so would have had them in. Think those two pairings have the potential to either tear the US apart or implode dramatically. Lets hope its the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 i disagree, if Poults and Rose are on the game, it will be a birdie fest. And Sergio, an 8 & 0 record in the 4somes, roughly de americanised to won 8/8 3-1 Europe for morning foursomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLYMPIC Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 I think the Poulter/Rose pairing really has more to do with the fact they are friends that get on well together and seem to work when paired together. This time round i am not so confident of europe winning i think Faldo will rub the yanks up the wrong way to much,and i have a feeling the atmosphere might get like Brookline when they invaded the green thinking they had won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 September, 2008 I would have gone with harrington/JImenez first off, but apart from that I think it's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 i disagree, if Poults and Rose are on the game, it will be a birdie fest. And Sergio, an 8 & 0 record in the 4somes, roughly de americanised to won 8/8 3-1 Europe for morning foursomes. Agree that if they play well it will be spectacular, so hope they do. Just fear that these two didn't carry a huge amount of form into this. Wary, but hopeful. Will be really interesting to see this afternoon's pairings considering Faldo has said that ideally he wants to get all 12 players out on day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 I think there might be a few late nights this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Good to see evidence of terrace humour gracing the pristine fairways of Valhalla.... 1324: "The European fans are in good voice on the 1st tee, singing such classics as 'Walking in a Faldo wonderland' and 'Where's your Tiger gone?'. The US can only reply with 'USA, USA'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 "get in the hole"... you got to love the yanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Europe up in 3 and level in 1. So far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 How old is Faldo's missus? She looked very young and very cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 This is going to be very close. 1 up in two and 1 down in two. Normally one match that swings considerbly in either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 September, 2008 now 1 up ,1 level and 2 down. Swinging towards the yanks atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Fourballs. 1745: Phil Mickelson and Anthony Kim v Padraig Harrington and Graeme McDowell 1800: Steve Stricker and Ben Curtis v Ian Poulter and Justin Rose 1815: Justin Leonard and Hunter Mahan v Sergio Garcia and Migual Angel Jimenez 1830: JB Holmes and Boo Weekley v Lee Westwood and Soren Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 3-1 to USA in the foursomes. Garcia and Westy got out of Jail. Paddy and Karlsson made a mess of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintcrris Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Not a good start, im pretty sure all our wins have come about after we were leading after the first two days. Plenty of time but I have a bad feeling about this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 Still not looking to good, need to hang on for the singles, 2 pt defecit would be fine IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 2 points behind, with 12 to play for on Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 What a wonderful weekend the Ryder Cup is. Just lovin it! 10 hours a day of sitting at the tv, nothing REALLY happens, maybe a couple of bits of magic in each 3 hour stint, but BOY is it compelling. Even trying to cook something is fraught as the cheers come up on the telly and the omlette gets burnt (again) Overall after the first days, it just seemed we didn't get the putters working as well as we could and we didn't have enough with Ian Poulters' focus & buzz out there. Hats off though to Rose & McDowell for playing really well as rookies, hope Sergio is feeling better on his anti-biotics, Karlsson has started but keeps going and Ollie Wilson gets his game going again today. Got a fresh case of Tsing Tao beer in (love it) and plenty of kettle chips for this evening, probably left ourselves too much to do in the singles but bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 Not looking good at the moment, of course can all change so fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 All on Jiminez recovering at least 2 holes with 4 to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 well we ****ing ********ed that up didnt we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 21 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 21 September, 2008 bugger. Bloody Americans didn't miss a put under 10 ft all week I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 Certain players just didnt perform, Garcia springs to mind, while others couldnt get the ball in the hole, i.e Casey. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 Certain players just didnt perform, Garcia springs to mind, while others couldnt get the ball in the hole, i.e Casey. Shame Yeah, well.. you can condemn Faldo for his picks like people do JP on the main board. Though Casey as a team wild card obviously didn't work. Won it against the odds a few times previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 Me too mate! Can't wait! Was thinking the same thing bout Faldo tho, talkin bout every member of his family etc.... All your money on there being a hole in 1. Top Tip. 16-12 Europe, I reckon Hmm. Hard luck. Almost exactly the opposite score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 21 September, 2008 Share Posted 21 September, 2008 Golf is for old ****s. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Golf is for old ****s. HTH. OI !! I am old but I totally dislike golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 September, 2008 The yanks won for the simple reason that they played better. Faldo is getting slated but I don't think he could have done much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 The yanks won for the simple reason that they played better. Faldo is getting slated but I don't think he could have done much else. Well, for a start he could have selected Daren Clarke who has a good Ryder Cup record and won two events in the lead up to the tournament, and secondly he could put a lot more pressure on the weaker Americans at the end by putting his strongest form players out early and in the middle. Having them play at the end when the match was already lost was pretty pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Well, for a start he could have selected Daren Clarke who has a good Ryder Cup record and won two events in the lead up to the tournament, and secondly he could put a lot more pressure on the weaker Americans at the end by putting his strongest form players out early and in the middle. Having them play at the end when the match was already lost was pretty pointless. Most people thought Clarke should have been played instead of Poulter! Poulter was easily our best player. Faldo thought it would be close, and obviously decided on playing experienced guys at the end to bring the baton home Hindsight is a wonderful thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 The yanks won for the simple reason that they played better. Faldo is getting slated but I don't think he could have done much else. Agreed. Poulter really responded to the challenge, and Casey was solid. The "big names" of Garcia, Westwood and Harrington didn't win a match between them. When that happens, what can you do? I think the final margin of victory was wider than deserved, but when the result was known then I think the last 3/4 games trailed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Sundays performances to par. Garcia +4 (after 14) Casey -2 (after 18 ) Karlsson -4 (after 15) Stenson -2 (after 16) Westwood -4 (after 17) Wilson -4 (after 16) Hansen par (after 17) Harrington +5 (after 17) Jimenez par (after 17) McDowell -5 (after 17) Poulter -5 (after 16) Rose -6 (after 16) In summary, Garcia + Harrington = crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Wilson was harshed up, Weekly would have beaten ANYONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Poulter and Rose were terrific. The guys with the previous Ryder Cup experience were out of sorts, maybe because Monty wasn't there? But the Yanks played some good golf and were a stronger team than people gave them credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted 22 September, 2008 Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Most people thought Clarke should have been played instead of Poulter! Poulter was easily our best player. Faldo thought it would be close, and obviously decided on playing experienced guys at the end to bring the baton home Hindsight is a wonderful thing It wasn't really hindsight. It was obvious that we needed to get amongst it early on and in the middle, to pressurize the Americans. It was also quite obvious to most people that we probably weren't going to get as far as McDowell, Westwood, Harrington and Poulter as the USA only needed five and a half points in the singles to win. I think you have to give yourself a chance to win, which we didn't by loading the end. That said, I agree that Westwood, Garcia and Harrington didn't really perform and without them firing it was always going to be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 September, 2008 Wilson was harshed up, Weekly would have beaten ANYONE He lost 4&2 , if he had played Chad Campbell, he would have won 4&3, (source : Sky commentator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 September, 2008 American celebrations seem to go over the top!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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