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saintjay77

saintjay77

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almost a pointless survey.

 

Yes its a good idea to move them and yes the home fans will move to be near them.

 

Only gives you a chance to give your opinion if you disagree with wanting them moved.

 

FWIW I dont think they should have half of 1 end and should be pushed more into a corner saving the better seats for us.

yorkie

yorkie

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I think the matchday is spoilt by having home & away fans at one end. Half the fun was singing from the Milton at the away fans in the Archers.

 

I actually think this would encourage more vocal support from all round the ground.

 

Obviously there would still be the Itchen North contingent who would follow to close by the away fans - but the Northam would spread and fill that end behind the goal.

 

Create a section directly behind the goal in the Chapel for away fans.

 

Personally I'd still sit in Blocks 1,2 because I like the view and the sun on matchdays - plus with the Northam extending across would still be part of the home crowd. Sorry for the corporates - but that's the way I feel.

Webby

Webby

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Yes, why not? Why shouldn't we have a Kop end? I think it will definitely create more of a 'home end' feeling. At the moment, the northam is virtually split.

Scummer

Scummer

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Yes, why not? Why shouldn't we have a Kop end? I think it will definitely create more of a 'home end' feeling. At the moment, the northam is virtually split.

 

We can have a Kop end without moving the away fans. Just use the Chapel.

sandwichsaint

sandwichsaint

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I'm not convinced the away fans can't move into Blocks 1-2-3, and then from their backwards into blocks 45-44 (or whatever they are numbered, effectively where they are now) for cup games.

 

Taken that the away fans at the moment are in the most 'logical' place:

 

Pro's to this location:

it's the second best logistical position in terms of ticket office/away coaches/ segregation after the game (especially if they re-made the access so away fans continued to enter from the right hand side of the ticket office)

we will gain a whole width for our own 'kop end'

home fans won't be split following the away fans to a different part of the ground

away fans will be effectively much less 'vocal' sideways (corner-ways?)on than end-on

the away team won't ever 'attack' their own fans end ... they won't have an end as such

 

Anti's

away fans would be nearer to the corporates (so what?), either net out the back four rows by those first couple of boxes or permanently change the layout to keep them out of reach (with some clever walling they could prob keep them out of sight too if that's what they want)

current Block 1-2-3 stalwarts ejoy the pincer effect against the away fans - then move down to the new front line at Block 4 or 5 or wherever it ends up - and carry on from there

can't see any more downsides ......

 

Memo to the club

 

moving the away fans to the Kingsland/Northam corner would be great in the ground but would be a a logistical nightmare outside, doubt the police would approve it anyway

 

moving the away fans to the 'other end' would attract a significant proportion of our more vocal Northam and Itchen North supporters down their end (and leave us with a watered down Northam/Chapel as our Kop)

 

In the absence of the above as an option I would vote to leave them where they are.

1976_Child

1976_Child

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The Northam Yoof won't like it, but they can always leave the game early and position themselves outside the away-fans turnstiles. Can't deny our Yoof the chance to get stuck in.

 

;)

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Saint Clark - I have just literally paid £1,250 in tax over the phone. Your picture is winding me up; it is an insult..

 

;);)

Just showing my support for one of the finest establishments in modern Britain.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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In terms of practicalities in getting away fans from the stadium as quickly and as safely as possible the only option is to keep them near Britannia Rd which would mean the only alternative I can see is the Itchen/Chapel corner. Put them anywhere over the other side and you are asking for trouble, especially over the footbridge. You would also have the added problems of away fans mingling too much with home supporters going off in every direction.

 

Whilst this would be fine for the majority of away fans, certainly in this League, what about when we move up to the CCC and hopefully the Premiership and you are dealing with large numbers of Leeds, P*mpey, Millwall etc fans ?

 

Unless these supporters that have a history of causing trouble are kept in after the final whistle like in the bad old days then personally I think it is asking for trouble.

 

They were put in the Northam/Itchen corner for a reason....and that reason had to be that it is the most obvious place for crowd control and access.

 

Only my opinion of course.

Ken Tone

Ken Tone

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almost a pointless survey.

 

Yes its a good idea to move them and yes the home fans will move to be near them.

 

Only gives you a chance to give your opinion if you disagree with wanting them moved.

 

FWIW I dont think they should have half of 1 end and should be pushed more into a corner saving the better seats for us.

 

 

Only way to deal with that is to say bad idea then in the comment section say but would be ok if moved to kingsland north --or whatever you feel

 

K.

EFM

EFM

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I think the matchday is spoilt by having home & away fans at one end. Half the fun was singing from the Milton at the away fans in the Archers.

 

I actually think this would encourage more vocal support from all round the ground.

 

Obviously there would still be the Itchen North contingent who would follow to close by the away fans - but the Northam would spread and fill that end behind the goal.

 

Create a section directly behind the goal in the Chapel for away fans.

 

Personally I'd still sit in Blocks 1,2 because I like the view and the sun on matchdays - plus with the Northam extending across would still be part of the home crowd. Sorry for the corporates - but that's the way I feel.

 

Largely agree Yorkie.

 

Has always driven me mad since we moved to SMS that we are actually outnumbered in our "home" end by away fans. Absolute madness. Give us a cup game (i.e. up coming blue scum) and we are nothing virtually left in the Northam.

 

Give us the WHOLE Northam or Chapel. I don't care where but give us an end that is OUR end. Place the away fans down a corner near it if you want but how can it make ANY sense at the moment for the away team to run out to their fans whilst we run out to the silent nearly empty Chapel. Where the hell is our home advantage gone within seconds?

 

6000 vocal home fans at one end would make a huge huge difference to the atmosphere and there is nothing to stop those wanting a bit more "banter" to be near the aways. Down a corner for them as you say Yorkie.

 

Makes me blood boil that they effectively take home advantage for an away game, especially since the total **** up off closing Itchen blocks where the atmosphere is great.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

RedArmy

RedArmy

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6000 vocal home fans at one end would make a huge huge difference to the atmosphere

We.Do.Not.Have.6000.Vocal.Fans

 

 

FFS, when will people realise this.

Ken Tone

Ken Tone

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Give us the WHOLE Northam or Chapel. I don't care where but give us an end that is OUR end. .

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

 

Err. We already have the whole Chapel. It's just that hardly anyone chooses to sit there!

 

K.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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Having sat there vs Exeter, I would say that if anything needs moving it's the Family bit. Perhaps that's why people are so against sitting in the Chapel - Kids like getting autographs, stick the family stand in the Itchin and then the Chapel can be full of rowdy, singing, swearing drunks. I would happily sit there then! :-D

saint_mears

saint_mears

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I voted against due to the huge increase in trouble it will cause. When you exit the stadium you walk away from the area. Moving away fans to the other side will then see face to face confrontion. Bad idea and i guarantee season ticket holders would move to near away fans.

 

Its a no brainer so surprised how its even getting this far.

1976_Child

1976_Child

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Just showing my support for one of the finest establishments in modern Britain.

 

The finest establishment in modern Britain is St Mary's Young Men's Association Football Club.

 

The only thing HMRC is worthy for is to wind up Pompey ;)

CHAPEL END CHARLIE

CHAPEL END CHARLIE

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As point of order I think the club is wrong to initiate a vote while being less than candid with the voters (on the OS at least) about the full implications of the proposed changes . We on here know the plan is to move the away section to the Chapel/Kingsland corner but many of those who only visit the OS may well be completely unaware of that very pertinent point . Perhaps if they knew the full facts (as they should) then some of the fans voting 'yes' might take a very different view if they realised that it was their seats that would be directly effected by this (ill-conceived IMO) scheme .

 

We're all going to get quite enough of that kind of thing from our politicians in the upcoming election without our club joining in ! :(

Dog

Dog

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Can we build an away cage like we had at the Dell, I used to love seeing all the away fans watching the game through the white bars similar to a monkey cage.

 

Does anyone have any pictures of the said reservation, so I can bring back some great memories.

Block 5

Block 5

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Done.

Stick them in the naughty corner next to the Kingsland codgers.

 

Let's create that 'wall of sound' (although not in an actress murdering, Phil Spector way).

SparkySaint

SparkySaint

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Done, told em to open up blocks 1, 2 & 3 again & make more use of blocks 43 & 44 when away teams have a smaller following. If they are to move them then it should be to Kingsland/Northam corner.

 

Exactly what I was thinking

70's Mike

70's Mike

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As point of order I think the club is wrong to initiate a vote while being less than candid with the voters (on the OS at least) about the full implications of the proposed changes . We on here know the plan is to move the away section to the Chapel/Kingsland corner but many of those who only visit the OS may well be completely unaware of that very pertinent point . Perhaps if they knew the full facts (as they should) then some of the fans voting 'yes' might take a very different view if they realised that it was their seats that would be directly effected by this (ill-conceived IMO) scheme .

 

We're all going to get quite enough of that kind of thing from our politicians in the upcoming election without our club joining in ! :(

 

totally agree the OS is only telling half the story

Guest Dark Sotonic Mills

Guest Dark Sotonic Mills

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I suggest they put them in the North car park for the duration of the match; then straight back on their coaches.

Oh and taking twenty pounds off each of them in return for a botulism burger and a pint of flat Carling.

Block 5

Block 5

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I suggest they put them in the North car park for the duration of the match; then straight back on their coaches.

Oh and taking twenty pounds off each of them in return for a botulism burger and a pint of flat Carling.

 

I think you're being over generous there.

Guest Dark Sotonic Mills

Guest Dark Sotonic Mills

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I think you're being over generous there.

 

Half then.

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Replied to this today and said yes, move 'em. And move 'em to the Chapel / Chapel-Kingsland corner, thus largely nullifying their support. As someone else said this is a good idea to...

 

(a) Create a SMS 'Kop'

(b) Enhance Saints home advantage

© Degrade away fans experience and support

 

The Chapel/Kingsland corner is the best bet in terms of controlling away supporters as their coaches can be parked on the industrial estate.

 

Alternatively, close the Northam to home fans entirely and put the away fans across the stand, but close most of the upper tiers. ;)

BarnetSaint

BarnetSaint

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I think we should move them-firstly, i hate seeing away fans celebrating and showing off during televised games.

 

Secondly, it would hopefuly be better for the all round atmosphere at SMS-at the moment-all the noise comes from just one end of the ground. I sat in the Chapel for the Stockport game and as i looked to the left,right (ok well done the itchen corner) and Chapel, total silence.

Noodles34

Noodles34

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Saint Clark - I have just literally paid £1,250 in tax over the phone. Your picture is winding me up; it is an insult..

 

;);)

 

40 grand a year man, you could help out Pompey!!

Huffton

Huffton

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Replied to this today and said yes, move 'em. And move 'em to the Chapel / Chapel-Kingsland corner, thus largely nullifying their support. As someone else said this is a good idea to...

 

(a) Create a SMS 'Kop'

(b) Enhance Saints home advantage

© Degrade away fans experience and support

 

The Chapel/Kingsland corner is the best bet in terms of controlling away supporters as their coaches can be parked on the industrial estate.

 

Alternatively, close the Northam to home fans entirely and put the away fans across the stand, but close most of the upper tiers. ;)

 

Just moving them to another corner won't work. All that will happen is the guys who go in the northam now will also move, to be close to the away fans, an we will be back to where we starte, just at opposite ends!

To my min they shoul leave it as it is an re-open the Itchen corner, or if they must move them move them further round one of the Northam corners so the whole Northam an Chapel are Saints.

Junction 9

Junction 9

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What do you think the primary reason is that the Chapel never took off singing wise? Is it purely because of the distance from the away section?

As many have said on here why not just move to the Chapel if you want this complete home end so badly, it's not as if we don't already have one.

Chez

Chez

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if people wanted a wall of sound they would have filled the Chapel in the first place, but we want to be near the away fans because it is the closest feeling we have to being on the terraces and having atmospheres like they were in the 70s and 80s.

MorningtonCrescent

MorningtonCrescent

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Moving them to the Chapel/Kingsland corner would not cause the mayhem described by many here... and for good reason.... that is why the club are considering it and the police would be able to support it...

 

1) The "old" junior saints section there already has barriers built at the borders with the Chapel proper and the Kingsland

2) The section there has it own (tiny) concourse and toilets (no more pandering to the away fans every need)

3) The Chapel Industrial Estate can be closed off very effectively for the away coaches and I also suspect that the club would lay on free shuttle coaches to and from the station and the away fans park and ride from there too. Easy to close off access across that corner (far easier than closing the North car park, which many home fans want to access for the footbridge after a match). So all away fans head into the ind estate and all saints fans get clear access around the stadium to the footbridge (ok, chapel fans have to go "the long way around")

4) Some of the "yoof" who bang the boards at the back of the northam and sing too fast will head over to the chapel blocks closest to the away fans with ST available, leaving a lot of the vocal fans to spread across behind the goal at the northam end and create a better atmosphere by singing songs at both the away fans and the super fast yoof.

5) Saints can then come out and warm up at the northam end (and kick towards the chapel 1st half most of the time) and get the backing of a vocal section before the match starts...

6) The away fans won't be so visible on TV, reducing the effect they have on the tv audience too.

 

Its a no brainer and a win-win for Saints and fans alike.

 

Bring it on!

 

:-D

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