St Landrew Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Don't wonder amongst yourselves. Ask the Daily Record where they got their fanciful tosh: reporters@dailyrecord.co.uk text: 84080 - make sure you start the message with DRNEWS or phone:0141 309 3251 The press hardly ever divulge thier sources unlike the ITKs on here Which means we can treat this rubbish with the respect that it deserves, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Now.....tell JohnB that. It will save on clues...and cuppa's;) But Marcus can afford to sack his. If you're comparing us to top flight clubs then Liverpool probably isn't the most appropriate. Man City, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Originally Posted by DT Bit throwaway, this. I guess it just means his contract has not yet been renewed. Personally, I think there are better managers out there and while I think it would be good to be one of the few clubs to give a manager an old-school long-term chance at building, it wouldn't be a massive loss if he did go. I thought he was on a 3 year contract? I also thought that next season was going to be the time when he's going to be properly judged. Whilst we've spent a lot of money, I think we're making real progress this season. Certainly a lot more than I was expecting at the start of the season. Yes, pretty sure he is already on a long term contract. If he goes it will be because Cortese wants it that way, I would have no problem with that but get the feeling Cortese will give him at least the start of next season. Pardew has given full range this season of all his previous experience, good and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 My understanding from a very good press source is that Pardew knows the score as far as his future is concerned. Another source told me that if a Championship club came in for Pardew he would likely take it. Read between the lines. Pardew's targets are tougher than is made public is my take from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Don't wonder amongst yourselves. Ask the Daily Record where they got their fanciful tosh: reporters@dailyrecord.co.uk text: 84080 - make sure you start the message with DRNEWS or phone:0141 309 3251 I sent off an email telling them that we down South considered the mention of Pardew's future to be a work of fiction and telling them to put up or shut up. I pointed out that as this was the very first mention in any media outlet that Pardew's future was shrouded in doubt, that they had an exclusive story, so why didn't they publish it as headline news in their rag and then syndicate it around the World? I don't really expect a reply, but it makes me feel better telling the Jock fantasists what a load of crap they print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I've heard that his feet aren't as far under the table as some people think, after the Millwall game. Duncan has obviously heard the same thing as he made a similar remark to the Record in a previous thread on here. I'm not happy about his misuse of some players especially Waigo, obvious favourites and his negative approach, but that is a personal opinion. Before somebody weighs in about the results, we have only beaten one team in the top 10 and those are half the matches left. If we are going to get into the playoffs we have to now win nearly all of those. I think that Cortese may well have set his sights on the playoffs this year hence the investment in players. It was him that brought in Waigo and I wouldn't think he is particularly impressed by his use to date. It is now known he is a hard taskmaster and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pardew isn't under pressure to get to the playoffs as a result of the multiple signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I've heard that his feet aren't as far under the table as some people think, after the Millwall game. Duncan has obviously heard the same thing as he made a similar remark to the Record in a previous thread on here. I'm not happy about his misuse of some players especially Waigo, obvious favourites and his negative approach, but that is a personal opinion. Before somebody weighs in about the results, we have only beaten one team in the top 10 and those are half the matches left. If we are going to get into the playoffs we have to now win nearly all of those. I think that Cortese may well have set his sights on the playoffs this year hence the investment in players. It was him that brought in Waigo and I wouldn't think he is particularly impressed by his use to date. It is now known he is a hard taskmaster and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pardew isn't under pressure to get to the playoffs as a result of the multiple signings. Is it a fact that NC brought in Waigo or just logical speculation based on what are understood to be NC's links to Fiorentina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Is it a fact that NC brought in Waigo or just logical speculation based on what are understood to be NC's links to Fiorentina? He is the one who makes those decisions subject to discussions with Pardew so as it was his connections I would think it is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Even if we don't make the playoffs, I can't see any change before the end of the season - why would you tie the hands of a future manager with lots of Pards own signings. Certainly, Pards is under pressure but he'll be given to the middle of next season, at the very least - hopefully longer. If in December we're not pushing for automatic, then NC might wield the axe. The better analogy is not Liverpool or Man C but QPR and look where their chopping and changing has got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Even if we don't make the playoffs, I can't see any change before the end of the season - why would you tie the hands of a future manager with lots of Pards own signings. Certainly, Pards is under pressure but he'll be given to the middle of next season, at the very least - hopefully longer. If in December we're not pushing for automatic, then NC might wield the axe. The better analogy is not Liverpool or Man C but QPR and look where their chopping and changing has got them. Look where ours got us.......I hope NC has studied the recent history of this club, and it's demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/falkirk/2010/01/31/i-ll-be-happy-if-i-m-still-at-falkirk-when-transfer-window-closes-says-scott-arfield-86908-22008529/ "Alan Pardew's own future beyond the summer still shrouded in doubt" Unmoved and unimpressed by the piece of chop-logic thats been employed here, that Arfield didnt get a move because of some long-term lingering doubts about AP. Having said that, looking at the colossal Burley-magnitude proportions level of support that AP has been given, if we dont get a play-off birth AND are not thereabouts by Xmas, I expect him to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Look where ours got us.......I hope NC has studied the recent history of this club, and it's demise. True though previous managers never had any cash to spend. Money brings its own expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 My understanding from a very good press source is that Pardew knows the score as far as his future is concerned. Another source told me that if a Championship club came in for Pardew he would likely take it. Read between the lines. Pardew's targets are tougher than is made public is my take from this. Well, if that is case, that this is in the press community, NC will also be aware of the extent of AP's loyalty AND his belief in his ability to deliver said targets, so maybe there is some legs in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Unmoved and unimpressed by the piece of chop-logic thats been employed here, that Arfield didnt get a move because of some long-term lingering doubts about AP. Having said that, looking at the colossal Burley-magnitude proportions level of support that AP has been given, if we dont get a play-off birth AND are not thereabouts by Xmas, I expect him to be gone. I agree, seems to be a load of poppy****. FWIW, I like Pardew. I think he's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Having said that, looking at the colossal Burley-magnitude proportions level of support that AP has been given, if we dont get a play-off birth AND are not thereabouts by Xmas, I expect him to be gone. What's this play-off birth of which you speak, Alpine? Had Pardew even arrived here nine months before the play-offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 What's this play-off birth of which you speak, Alpine? Had Pardew even arrived here nine months before the play-offs? Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 My understanding from a very good press source is that Pardew knows the score as far as his future is concerned. Another source told me that if a Championship club came in for Pardew he would likely take it. Read between the lines. Pardew's targets are tougher than is made public is my take from this. There is a vacancy at Peterborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Congratulations, Alpine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Congratulations, Alpine. seconded. welcome, smaller mountain range...(Pennine Saint?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Pards and the club have both said they are here to build for the future. He's going no-where, even if we don't make the playoffs this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 seconded. welcome, smaller mountain range...(Pennine Saint?) Mole hill Saint!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Many congratulations, Alps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Congrats old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Congratulations Alpine - Hope you are not going to suffer from Post Natal Depression;) I suppose you wont be calling him George after Mr Burley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Can anyone tell me if there's a way to ignore all posts by a particular forum member, like you can on Facebook? Setting and Options and edit ignore list mate. Problem is most of the idiot posts get quoted by others when replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 After the investment NC will want playoffs I think, and fair enough. There are enough games to go, and we have a very good squad so up to Pardew to get us enough points now. I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 My understanding from a very good press source is that Pardew knows the score as far as his future is concerned. Another source told me that if a Championship club came in for Pardew he would likely take it. Read between the lines. Pardew's targets are tougher than is made public is my take from this. Absolutely - people have become obsessed with the 5 year plan - 2 years in L1 was not part of the plan. Some people (on here only thank god) would like us to believe that everyone is happy with a L1 practice season - NC and ML wont be. The targets will have been clear. You dont let a manager outspend the whole league (added together) plus 90% of CCC teams and half the prem to sit mid table in L1. The targets will have included results (Playoffs) this season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I think they never expected automatic promotion this year- - hoped and aimed for yes, but never expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I think they never expected automatic promotion this year- - hoped and aimed for yes, but never expected. But with all the money spent they expect playoffs. And that is still fairly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I think they never expected automatic promotion this year- - hoped and aimed for yes, but never expected. Like I said - if you outspend every team in the league (add together) then you expect - you dont spend that kinda money and then just 'hope' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Unmoved and unimpressed by the piece of chop-logic thats been employed here, that Arfield didnt get a move because of some long-term lingering doubts about AP. Having said that, looking at the colossal Burley-magnitude proportions level of support that AP has been given, if we dont get a play-off birth AND are not thereabouts by Xmas, I expect him to be gone. Just as well you weren't around when they were building Rome then eh Alps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Congratulations Alpine. Don't know you personally, but congrats to you and yours from a fellow Saints supporter. RE the OP and AP: Based on what I have seen of NC and his pro outlook on the running of the business, I think AP will be given a good chance to succeed even if we don't make auto's next season, providing it is clear we are (a) improving and (b) there were good reasons for not performing better...e.g. like a massive injury list. I think AP is probably the best manager match this club could possibly have and I will not be best pleased if he leaves before the 5 year plan has been delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Like I said - if you outspend every team in the league (add together) then you expect - you dont spend that kinda money and then just 'hope' more than hope, its a concerted effort - and still is. Just didn't expect it overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Just as well you weren't around when they were building Rome then eh Alps? Yep building Rome and getting a side to the Playoffs in the English 3rd division is the same thing. Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 is this a joke? Wouldnt be a massive loss hey? Yes lets get back on the good old manager merry-go-round that has served us so well over the last few years The article itself is from some uninformed wannbe journo who, like the rest of the media still thinks we are skint. AP, to my knowledge is on a 3 year deal! Yep: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Management/0,,10280~1725217,00.html "The 48-year old Londoner signed a three season deal keeping his at St. Mary's until the conclusion of the 2011/12 season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 There have been a few rumours but it is difficult to judge fact from fiction. Rumour aside, unless their is a slump in form, I would be surprised & disappointed if pardew was not given next season to get promotion. We need stability and I think he has brought well in the main. That said if the rumours are true and pardew does not gain promotion this season then he is out on his arse. time will tell I guess but my hunch is there could be some mischeif making within a certain local rag which may have an agenda here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Why give Glasgow Saint the air time, he talks sh1t at the best of times. Three years is the contract, with a Five year plan. Quite. There seem to be a lot of people keen to ditch our most successful manager since Lawrie McMenemy. But then what do you expect in a country where education is so pitiful and chavs are actively encouraged to breed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Quite. There seem to be a lot of people keen to ditch our most successful manager since Lawrie McMenemy. But then what do you expect in a country where education is so pitiful and chavs are actively encouraged to breed? Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Listen to Weston, Derry and FF imho of couse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Search the members list find the one you want there is a drop down and you can choose ignore - fwiw I have him on ignore already - just posts for winds ups and responses. I hate it when people quote him so I have to read it. Cheers - didn't think of looking at the actual profile. Unfortunately you still see threads started by them, even if you can't read their actual post. Think I'll be putting quite a few on my ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Who is the father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 He is the one who makes those decisions subject to discussions with Pardew so as it was his connections I would think it is correct. pure speculation,in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Sorry. Bit confused here. I thought Glasgow Saint was originally Original Bournemouth Saint. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Sorry. Bit confused here. I thought Glasgow Saint was originally Original Bournemouth Saint. Is this true? Yes, he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Yes, he was. But I thought Original Bournemouth Saint was the poster who regularly locked horns with Alpine Saint, defending George Burley and his managerial record. Or am I thinking of someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 What we have, in AP, is currently working. It doesn't yet need fixing! Please, no more knee jerk reactions (not that I think ML or NC would do that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Congratulations Alpine - Hope you are not going to suffer from Post Natal Depression;) I suppose you wont be calling him George after Mr Burley LOL. Funilly enough, George was our first choice for the first half of the pregnancy, but we didnt like the fact he would be called Ge-org over here. So, we went for Charlie instead. Thanks to everyone for the well-wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Who is the father? Yes, well, there had to be one mong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Soz, berth. My wfe had a little boy last Wed, so I guess I am a baby-bore at the mo' Congratulations to all the family, health and happiness to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 M any congratulations to Alpine and family and also to ESB and family...Best wishes and good luck to you all... The same applies to all the ladioes out there expecting......Except those that have been touched by Captain Terry.....I wouldn't feel right giving praise in that direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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