monkadill Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Deserves his own thread – in my eyes a great addition that is not flawless but is 100% committed when he plays. I hope he becomes a permanent signing! His name across my shirt!
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 sounded great when he came on..... will he start next week with sir rickie..?
Joesaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Papa is a goal threat, simple as that please start with him.
CFSFC Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Would drop Lambert next week, to give him 2 weeks rest, we should have enough about as to beat exeter with Waigo and barnard. If we have no pressence then fonte can play up there.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 He has to start - gives the team energy. Until he came on today we were very very poor.
BallBoy Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 He is a unique player. A good "impact" player. He looks awkward but he is effective. I suspect he has a better goals per minutes on the pitch ratio than any other player in the squad. Any statisticians?
toofarnorth Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 To be fair he looked quite good because everyone else in a red and white shirt was pretty useless. Dont get carried away.
SB Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Waigo should start subject.. Waigo is an Impact player, if he started every game he would get sussed straight away by the opposition, and wouldn’t cause as much trouble to the opposition as the defenders would have fresh legs..
hypochondriac Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 He was brilliant. Should be playing a hell of a lot more than he is.
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 said this morning this boy has goals in him. Should play him up top when called on too.
Eddie Lizzard Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Technically he is very good and has a very cool head in front of goal. I'd like to see him start more often to see whether he is more than just an impact player.
ericb Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 we needed him today because without Lallana we really lacked a creative edge. I know Waigo isn't exactly that but he does run at people and cause them problems. Thought it was a very business like performance today, Stockport were dire and we barely got out of second gear. Lambert definitely needs a rest though since he's starting to tire. Good thing about that though is the Barnard seems to do a hell of a lot of running which takes the pressure off. On a complete aside i thought Holmes looked good today and is looking better each game i see him at the moment, when he's had a decent run he's going to pivotal in our side.
Saintandy666 Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 He changed the match when he came on, really gave us that extra flair and excitement.
Kingsland Red Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I dont agree that he should start but he is an excellent impact player, like today.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Made an impact when he came on, and gave us an extra dimension when attacking. He gave 100% in everything he did. He may not be perfect, technically, but against sides like Stockport he is an absolute class above and you can tell.
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 If we are going to play 442 then he needs to partner either RL of LB. He gives pace.
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach.
Hopkins Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach. Yeah. Lets start Waigo centre mid. That'll be positive! You mug.
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I have a feeling Papa's lack of English isn't helping him and this is a large reason(but not only) why he isn't playing more games. Morgan having to translate everything for him in the BBC Solent interview after the game today. He has the ability clearly so there must be something keeping him out and not being able to communicate easily with coaching staff and teammates could be a contributing factor.
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach. completely agree-everything quickened up after he came on and while the ball didn't stick all the time, he played the ball to feet, often first time. Great flick around the corner to set holmes free which should have led to a 3rd goal. Has to start down the middle, at least in a 4-4-2 rather than RM and seems to have a decent understanding with lambert. Definitely better than lambert's understanding with Connolly and so far with Barnard, though it's still early days.
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Yeah. Lets start Waigo centre mid. That'll be positive! You mug. Did I say that? Waigo should start and Wotton is hopeless. Gillett was available as was Gobern. To make a peurile remark like that demonstrates a total lack of understanding.
70's Mike Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach. not sure if the two are connect
Joesaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I think Papa still has a massive part to play this season, he has great skill and can get past most defencive lines. AP will know this, he is a top top manager. COYS
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 not sure if the two are connect They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only. I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players.
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I have a feeling Papa's lack of English isn't helping him and this is a large reason(but not only) why he isn't playing more games. Morgan having to translate everything for him in the BBC Solent interview after the game today. He has the ability clearly so there must be something keeping him out and not being able to communicate easily with coaching staff and teammates could be a contributing factor. Agree with this as well- pards strikes me as a bit of a control-freak who prepares for everything in minute detail. As a result, prefers players he can drill instructions to. Contrast this with the more laissez-faire approach of a manager like redknapp who likes players to express themselves. Not saying one approach is better than the other but it clearly affects team selection.
70's Mike Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only. I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players. IMO They will put up with it as long as we win
Pip Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Papa's all round awareness looked much improved today. To me, one of the main pluses of playing him up front is that he can get into the box when Antonio and Holmes whip the ball in from the wings. Playing with wingers is much better if they don't have to wait for the strikers to arrive - that's what opened the game up in the second half today.
sainttomski Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 He is improving every time I see him and I would like to see him up front with either Barnard or Lambert
doggface Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 We looked horribly one paced with lambo & Barnard. Waigo came on & changed the game straight away, ran at people & scared them ****less. Cannot work out why pards doesn't seem to fancy him. Great goals ratio and can do equally good job wide or as cf. Still prefer 4-5-1 though.
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Cannot for the life of me Antonio starts ahead of him, the only thing i can think of is his english. Don't get me wrong, Antonio seems to be improving but Waigo has pace as well as some skill and a definate goal threat. When waigo is good he is very good, he does go missing at times though, but i still would start him ahead of Antonio
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only. I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players. I can't see a Chairman putting up with too many wins.
revolution saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only. I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players. You were doing OK until you suggested Gillett was quick, incisive and attacking. I'd describe him as ineffective, prone to fouling and prone to giving the ball away but that's opinion for you. FWIW today was the first time Waigo convinced me he's got what it takes - he showed class, skill and pace. I'd start him. Antonio has been given a few starts now and personally I think Waigo deserves the same chance that he's got. Before today I thought Waigo was probably best on the bench but he's obviously been working hard and has earned a starting place - that could be right mid or up front but either way the lad has done enough to show us what he can do with a few starts.
View From The Top Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Deserves his own thread – in my eyes a great addition that is not flawless but is 100% committed when he plays. I hope he becomes a permanent signing! His name across my shirt! I'd have him in the team most weeks, gives us a real dimension to our play,
L1Minus10 Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. . Did you go today? I thought Wotton was one of our best players.
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 I thought Wotton was one of our best players. All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks. When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference!
scotty Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Deserves his own thread – in my eyes a great addition that is not flawless but is 100% committed when he plays. I hope he becomes a permanent signing! His name across my shirt! Steve Coppell would have signed him on a permanent by now
Red&White Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks. When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference! Agreed
Red&White Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Papa's all round awareness looked much improved today. To me, one of the main pluses of playing him up front is that he can get into the box when Antonio and Holmes whip the ball in from the wings. Playing with wingers is much better if they don't have to wait for the strikers to arrive - that's what opened the game up in the second half today. Absobloodylutely
View From The Top Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Did you go today? I thought Wotton was one of our best players. If, by good, you mean totally gash, then you're right. It was his worst performance for us by a long way.
s0108787 Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Did you go today? I thought Wotton was one of our best players. please tell me this is a joke! He looked confused with the ball at his feet and completely off the pace. Gillett would have been a far more suitable choice - he certainly couldn't have given the ball away more than wotton did
beavis17 Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks. When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference! Spot on, yes he trys harder than any other player probably, but the quality is lacking
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 If you want to play 442 its got to be Waigo and either Lambert or Barret else we are too predictable IMHO
SuperMikey Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Waigo should definitely start against Exeter imo, but what we have to remember is that he is quite inconsistent. Sometimes he'll change a game and sometimes he'll be a passenger. Handle with caution imo, because Antonio seems to be in a bit of a purple patch as well, and with Puncheon, Holmes and Lallana in the squad now we do have a lot of options for wing positions.
Clifford Nelson Posted 30 January, 2010 Posted 30 January, 2010 Waigo showed today what he can do playing up front. Barnard produced another question mark and looked decidedly lightweight. Strange for somebody with 17 goals behind him. If we carry on this 4-4-2 than we ought to look for two out of the three Lambert, Waigo and Barnard, assuming that we will get little out of Connolly. That way we can play Antonio without necessarily benching what is a player of genuine class. 8 goals from his so far limited appearances is a bit of a sensation.
stockportsaint Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 Yeah. Lets start Waigo centre mid. That'll be positive! You mug. Quality LOL some people are never happy - we won FFS.
ericofarabia Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 Quality LOL some people are never happy - we won FFS. I bet Stockport was like a ghost town y'day afternoon, what with their massive 200 away support at SMS Makes you wonder how many moans they'd be on here if we were in Stockport's predicament :cool:
Toomer Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 When Papa came on he added the missing spark we needed, he had three chances took one, lets hope we can sing a old Spuds song after MK Dons game. Papas going to Wembley His knees have gone all trembley La La La La.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 Waigo showed today what he can do playing up front. Barnard produced another question mark and looked decidedly lightweight. Strange for somebody with 17 goals behind him. If we carry on this 4-4-2 than we ought to look for two out of the three Lambert, Waigo and Barnard, assuming that we will get little out of Connolly. That way we can play Antonio without necessarily benching what is a player of genuine class. 8 goals from his so far limited appearances is a bit of a sensation. Barnard takes penalties (or took them for Southend) his open play goal count is probably something like Lallana's or Papa's (from far fewer games). A player should never be judged on his goal count if he takes penalties. Anyway at Southend he was probably the head honcho of the strike force (:smt036) and the game was played to suit his qualities, here it's probably different. some say he is far too similar to Lambert in style..
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 January, 2010 Posted 31 January, 2010 Would drop Lambert next week, to give him 2 weeks rest, we should have enough about as to beat exeter with Waigo and barnard. If we have no pressence then fonte can play up there. Should have enough to beat Exeter....like leeds did..? Why do we belittle teams?
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