Saint J 77 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I reckon Pompey will survive. They will take money from whoever offers. It will not matter where the money comes from. I mean wasn't Gaydamaks money from his gun running daddy’s dirty dealings? Now there is a strong possibility that a well know dictator’s son could buy the club. They are like bad smell that doesn’t go away. I have a feeling they will come out of this ok and they will probably stay up too. All the TV pundits will be falling over themselves saying how they have triumphed over adversity and what a great team spirit Pompey have and how great their fans are etc… There is something really dodgy going on at Pompey, I mean we all knew about the tax rumours of Redknapp and Storrie but I think the corruption runs a lot deeper at that club, probably at lot more than we currently know about. PFC just stinks of corruption actually it just stinks full stop They will be ok to play us you can be sure of that, I must have been one of the few Saints fans who didn’t want to play them in the cup. I really didn’t want to get them because think the players they currently have will be stronger than any team we can put out, I just hope they have an off day come Saturday the 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Not much chance of that is there Freudian slip? A-ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I reckon Pompey will survive. They will take money from whoever offers. It will not matter where the money comes from. Why would anyone want to buy them along with the debts, lack of infrastructure and high running costs? I think this is the end. AFC Portsmouth created by the fans will rise from the flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Why would anyone want to buy them along with the debts, lack of infrastructure and high running costs? I think this is the end. AFC Portsmouth created by the fans will rise from the flames. why would anyone want to buy any football club..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianoneils slidingtackle Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Bye Bye Pompey. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 'On a lighter note, what do you think they should build on the Fratton land when the inevitible happens? Flats? Tesco? STD Clinic? Family Planning Centre?' Pikey park...**** on your own seat toilets, room for 100 caravans preferably pre-1970s...or you could continue without applying for change of use & call it the municipal dump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Now on the Beeb's website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8485388.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Their website appears to be back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Why would anyone want to buy them along with the debts, lack of infrastructure and high running costs? I think this is the end. AFC Portsmouth created by the fans will rise from the flames. Maybe someone who has more money than sense or someone who wants to legitimise their dirty money. As unlikely as it seems that someone will come along and save pompey Its not outside the edge of reason. I hope you are right though, I just have a feeling they will get out of it and the media will going crazy for Pompey again like the season they won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdaz Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 theres reports that the scummers have to pay sasha 9 million by 31st jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Their website appears to be back up. Another hastily arranged loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottzoo Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/ try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottzoo Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 anybody know a book shop where i get get a book on web hosting and the costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 As understand it.... Gydamak is owed £9 million to be paid 31st Jan. Gydamak has acquired large portion of the land/properties surrounding Nottarf Krap. The money used to pay the wages over the last few months was borrowed using Nottarf Krap as security from a gentleman who has property developements as part of his portfolio. Pure speculation ... but .... with Gydamak owning the surrounding land and this loan secured against Krap ... This would if combined make a nice redevelopment site in a run down area of a run down city.... However if PFC is wound up the technicalities of whom actually owes Nottarf Krap could make a lot of solicitors a lot of money... Would it be in Gydamaks interest for PFC to go bust. It will be interesting to see if he forces his claim for his £9 million or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Aren't they due to pick up £250k TV money according to FA website for saints match, doubt PL can touch that and they will promise the same money to a few creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 They are selling some players to Spurs before the weekend - some goalie and a defender - perhaps that money is used to pay off this bloke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Steve, what would be the cost if they replaced the videos with hand-drawn pictures of the action as drawn by members of the crowd? Might be a nice little cost-saving measure there. They could also probably ask for part of the fee for reproducing the fixture list to be returned: there's no point in paying to show fixtures past February. Will the extra fingers be a help or a hinderance to there drawing abilitys? :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Yeah, no need to worry about HMRC. That's not 'til next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/ try again I just clicked on their site (I know, the shame) and note that they are having a 65% off sale. Hilarious. Also, a big banner asking for a £50 deposit from some betting outfit. It'll take more than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 They are selling some players to Spurs before the weekend - some goalie and a defender - perhaps that money is used to pay off this bloke ? The goalie in question begovic has been in excellent form for ther blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Bottom Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I just clicked on their site (I know, the shame) and note that they are having a 65% off sale. Hilarious. Also, a big banner asking for a £50 deposit from some betting outfit. It'll take more than that... WOW that site is just full of advertising I guess thats what paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I dont understand how they can be so much in the crap and still not be in administration though. We were no-where near the state they are now in and the bank pulled the plug and we went into admin the same day. Is it because they are in the prem and the FA are keeping the banks off there back as they dont want a prem club to fall? Or is there enough proof to suggest there is money tucked away somewhere by this arab market stall owner and its just a case of releasing it? No-one is keeping any creditor off their backs. They don't have a bank facility and don't owe any money to any bank. All the money they owe is to private individuals i.e. Gadamak, Chainrai, Campbell; other football clubs i.e. Rennes, Udinese and Lens; HMRC or small companies i.e. webhosts, caterers, etc. As we know HMRC have issed a winding up order and some of the other smaller creditors might attach themselves to that, or issue their own. Gaydamak and Chainrai, who are the biggest creditors by far, won't pull the plug because there is no chance of them getting anything back if they do. The only way for PFC to get out of this is to get in serious external investment - selling players won't raise enough - to be able to pay off Gaydamak and Chainrai. That means a new owner who is prepared to put in the best part of £30M on day one to pay off debts and who is also prepared to take on responsibility for the remainder of Gaydamak's debt payable in a couple of years time of another £20M or so. No amount of player sales is going to generate that amount of money. In the current climate I guess it's not easy finding that sort of person, but who knows, they might get very lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Portsmouth FC website shut down after 'pay dispute' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 (edited) And theres more: Portsmouth FC stops funding development in Guernsey Matts Brother ??? Edited 28 January, 2010 by slickmick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Last one: Bolton Wanderers to pip Blackburn Rovers to Portsmouth FC striker Aruna Dindane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I think you may misunderstand the meaning of the word 'fact'. No, I don't thank you. I qualified any statement not fact by IMO. There was a lot of speculation etc on here based on lack of understanding of corporate and insolvency laws and the way in which acquisitions work. For example, the OP is about Pompey being wound up before we play them - that simply will not happen. There were further confusions over their right to loan players. Make of my post what you like, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone on here - just trying to enlighten you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 As understand it.... Gydamak is owed £9 million to be paid 31st Jan. Gydamak has acquired large portion of the land/properties surrounding Nottarf Krap. The money used to pay the wages over the last few months was borrowed using Nottarf Krap as security from a gentleman who has property developements as part of his portfolio. Pure speculation ... but .... with Gydamak owning the surrounding land and this loan secured against Krap ... This would if combined make a nice redevelopment site in a run down area of a run down city.... However if PFC is wound up the technicalities of whom actually owes Nottarf Krap could make a lot of solicitors a lot of money... Would it be in Gydamaks interest for PFC to go bust. It will be interesting to see if he forces his claim for his £9 million or not... That's really interesting and has ressonance with a few things I have heard. Without doubt the 'property' of PFC will play a very important role in their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 They've been through this before and they are not actually Portsmouth Football Club with a 100+ year history. To the best of my limited knowledge they are Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd reformed out of administration around 10 years ago. They have left creditors behind once before (and will probably do so again this time) and as such not only did they get an unfair advantage in buying the FA Cup and Premier league survival with money they didnt have but they were re-founded and promoted using cash that should have been paid to creditors. If it happens again then one assumes the current penalties applied will have some affect but maybe, just maybe, this is karma (or chickens coming home to roost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 i heard a container holding loads of Pompey shirts were returned by the people of Haiti with a note "we have no homes, no food, no water but we still have our dignity" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Apparently they are still paying King edwards v1 school for the use of the wellington sports ground. well at the moment they are anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 As understand it.... Gydamak is owed £9 million to be paid 31st Jan. Gydamak has acquired large portion of the land/properties surrounding Nottarf Krap. The money used to pay the wages over the last few months was borrowed using Nottarf Krap as security from a gentleman who has property developements as part of his portfolio. Pure speculation ... but .... with Gydamak owning the surrounding land and this loan secured against Krap ... This would if combined make a nice redevelopment site in a run down area of a run down city.... However if PFC is wound up the technicalities of whom actually owes Nottarf Krap could make a lot of solicitors a lot of money... Would it be in Gydamaks interest for PFC to go bust. It will be interesting to see if he forces his claim for his £9 million or not... As Pompey have to pay Gaydamak the balance - £22m, in 2012, it is not in his interests that they go under !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Bloke in a Pompey shirt was about to throw himself off The Northam Bridge and end it all, but is stopped by a copper. You can't jump off this bridge, it'll lead to hours of disruption to people around here. Anyway why don't you jump off a bridge in portsmuff ..... to which the skate replied ...... Haven't you seen the friggin queues down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 i heard a container holding loads of Pompey shirts were returned by the people of Haiti with a note "we have no homes, no food, no water but we still have our dignity" Still to early for Haiti jokes - well thats my oppinion anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 i heard a container holding loads of Pompey shirts were returned by the people of Haiti with a note "we have no homes, no food, no water but we still have our dignity" Brilliant, i now have tea all over my keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 From the company that runs the site for Pompey... Media Statement – Portsmouth Football Club Website Juicy has worked with Portsmouth Football Club for the past 3 years and has good relationships across the business, as supporters and fans ourselves, as much as suppliers. Juicy has been in continual communication with the finance team in recent months about managing the costs of the website but were forced, due to payment plan breaches, to take the site down earlier today. A new payment plan with the club has now been agreed and the site will be made live with immediate effect. Juicy Director Pete Holliday, said: “We understand how passionate fans are about Portsmouth and want to see the site live just as much as they do. We even had a supporter contact us today to offer to pay to get the site live again! We’re proud of the work we have done with Portsmouth, and are pleased to be working through these issues with the club so that the site can remain live and continue to serve the needs of the club and its community.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 What is annoying me at the moment is plenty of people on here are stating facts on pompey's demise and how much trouble they are in etc etc, but from what I can see they are doing a good job at keeping the ship afloat with the minimum possible expenditure, keeping the creditors at bay with payment plan extensions etc. As things stand they still have a fairly strong team and in all probability will beat us easily on the 13th. Now that might change in the next couple of days with the wages not being paid, or others leaving, but they will still be able to fulfill the fixture against us in administration and probably with a strong team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 What is annoying me at the moment is plenty of people on here are stating facts on pompey's demise and how much trouble they are in etc etc, but from what I can see they are doing a good job at keeping the ship afloat with the minimum possible expenditure, keeping the creditors at bay with payment plan extensions etc. As things stand they still have a fairly strong team and in all probability will beat us easily on the 13th. Now that might change in the next couple of days with the wages not being paid, or others leaving, but they will still be able to fulfill the fixture against us in administration and probably with a strong team My thoughts exactly, no end of excited posts stating how f****d the skates are, but as I write, they have managed to maintain a decent standard premier league team and are just "drip feeding" expenditure only as and when it is really needed. I'll start getting excited when things actually HAPPEN and not when possible scenarios are hypothised on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Its rumoured that Arry wants Pompeys keeper before the window shuts - and NO its not James. If he leaves that leaved Popmey with Annti Niemi and some kid as keepers. If Niemi are in goal against Saints - how will the crowd react to that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Its rumoured that Arry wants Pompeys keeper before the window shuts - and NO its not James. If he leaves that leaved Popmey with Annti Niemi and some kid as keepers. If Niemi are in goal against Saints - how will the crowd react to that ? Jamie Ashdown is ahead of Niemi starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 As a pompey martyr points out in that article: "On the scale of things one would have thought the rental on a website would cost peanuts when compared to other things that money has to be spent on. I'm really surprised Portsmouth's financial problems are affecting items of this nature." Apart from the lack of money I don't think anybody is really in charge, nobody can authorise anything and more importantly don't know who to refer such issues to. Does anyone really know who the beneficial owner is, or do I have to be more specific? Who owns the ground, who owns the surrounding ransom strips, who owns the stands, who owns the tenuous concept of PFC, who owns the portaloos at the Milton end..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Its rumoured that Arry wants Pompeys keeper before the window shuts - and NO its not James. If he leaves that leaved Popmey with Annti Niemi and some kid as keepers. If Niemi are in goal against Saints - how will the crowd react to that ?He bottles it in derbys, so ******* ecstatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Well, Avram Grant and Peter Storrie are resigning tonight so looks less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Well, Avram Grant and Peter Storrie are resigning tonight so looks less likely. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Aruna Dindane is off to Birmingham,£4m deal with Lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 How do you know that? Just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Just wait. I guess its just cos you read this http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=226571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Well, Avram Grant and Peter Storrie are resigning tonight so looks less likely. I am impressed that they told you - good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamsandwich28 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I guess its just cos you read this http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=226571 I guess it's more because he probably started the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I am impressed that they told you - good work Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 something serious is happening down the road at Krap Nottarf... It's going to be really messy tomorrow and I really think there is a possibility that they are about to implode.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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