Colinjb Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 He's had a rather eclectic career. Starts at Wimbledon, joins them at the MK Dons after the move only to be realsed, a token appearance for Lewes and Fisher Athletic (!?) later he joins Barnet, only to join Plymouth and then rejoin the MK Dons on loan to go full circle. Random as Hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Assuming the Puncheon story is true, still think if we dont have a CM who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and start attacks, we won't see the best of any of our AMs. Its no coincidence that the likes of Lallana struggle when we play hoofball. spot on. we can buy as many attacking wingers/strikers as we want, but as long as we have Wotton in the midfield hoofing it in the air, we will not do anything. I actually don't even think Rickie is amazing in the air, we'd get much more from him if we played it on the deck. He's got a v good touch and a nice range of passing.....so has lallana...and morgan....but we isolate them time and time again by hoofing it. If that isn't sorted, the lallanas/puncheons of the world will not get into the games enough to influence results on a regular basis. - which will be a waste. i hope AP agrees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Davis Thomas Fonte Jaidi Harding Waigo Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard/Connolly Looks good to me once people are fit. Could do with another CM maybe then get rid of a load of players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Davis Thomas Fonte Jaidi Harding Waigo Schneiderlin Hammond Puncheon Lambert Barnard/Connolly Looks good to me once people are fit. Could do with another CM maybe then get rid of a load of players! What about Lallana? I think Puncheon can play anywhere in the midfield. IMO I doubt Puncheon will even be a Saints player. He likes MK Dons and will want to see it out. Plus Sky Sports Sources for Saints are poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 What about Lallana? I think Puncheon can play anywhere in the midfield. IMO I doubt Puncheon will even be a Saints player. He likes MK Dons and will want to see it out. Plus Sky Sports Sources for Saints are poor. Forgot about him! Bit of a dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 errr yeh thats right, ****le breathed ITK sp-unkmonkey who is this kid? relax, dont do it... chill out sweet cheeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Fantastic signing if true. He can play in a number of positions, so I could almost see him sitting next to Hammond or Morgan as CAM. He is another player that could go all the way with us - close to Prem standard easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 He's had a rather eclectic career. Starts at Wimbledon, joins them at the MK Dons after the move only to be realsed, a token appearance for Lewes and Fisher Athletic (!?) later he joins Barnet, only to join Plymouth and then rejoin the MK Dons on loan to go full circle. Random as Hell! Works for the wish you were here tv programme, part time.....Will be asking him for his nectar points when he arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 No it's because they where pretty crap, if Barnard finished his chance we would have been comfortble winners. Got to aim to be beating sides which aren't even in the top 6. We had four 1m+ players on the pitch yesterday and we can't make it count. Those are exactly the sort of game we have to learn to win if we're going to get promoted next season. I agree with the second half of that. Calling Brentford **** makes no sense though they out played us in the second half. There' no point saying if Barnard had scored we would of won what if KD hadn't pulled all those saves off we would have lost. Brentford have held Leeds and Norwhich at home this year so they ain't ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 With Lee Holmes back in the picture, I'm a little surprised with the Puncheon signing. Perhaps Brian Stock was a red herring, because he's a very different player to Puncheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Would be a good signing if true, but Sky got it wrong with Ward so who's to say this is true? Also seems to be some questions over MK-Dons having to agree ripping up their Loan Deal? Seems strange to me that the loaning club can dictate what happens to the parent club. I always thought that you could recall your player at any-time within the loan period? but I'm probably wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Would be a good signing if true, but Sky got it wrong with Ward so who's to say this is true? Also seems to be some questions over MK-Dons having to agree ripping up their Loan Deal? Seems strange to me that the loaning club can dictate what happens to the parent club. I always thought that you could recall your player at any-time within the loan period? but I'm probably wrong! There has been no comment from Saints about this deal though like there was pretty quickly after the Ward rumour was announced on SSN. Also, there isn't always a recall clause in loan deals - and there is NEVER one in a loan deal that involves a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 There has been no comment from Saints about this deal though like there was pretty quickly after the Ward rumour was announced on SSN. Also, there isn't always a recall clause in loan deals - and there is NEVER one in a loan deal that involves a fee. That's fair enough then SC, guess we will have to wait until tomorrow(later on today now) to find out if its a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Davis/Bart Otsemebor/Murty/Thomas/Seaborne/Fonte/Jaidi/Harding/Mills Waigo/Antonio/Hammond/Morgan/James/Puncheon/Lallana/Holmes Lambert/Barnard/Connolly Add a back up young striker and we'll walk this league next season;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I get in from work, turn to Sky Sports News and get hit with this bombshell. Now I come on here and have to read through 5 pages of stuff! You lot talk too much! Great that we're linked with a player of Puncheon's calibre. I watched him play against us and he looks dangerous. Reading about whether he could join us now or in the summer, whether we'll sign him at all, or whether we'll give the Dons Gobern, I don't know what to think! If we do give them Gobern, I hope it's only a loan, as I think he may have a big future. It'd be good to rid them of one of their best players before the second leg of the JPT, but more of a shame that we couldn't play him. If he signs, great! If not, Sky becomes even more unreliable for Saints gossip. As has been said on this thread already, I'll believe it only when it's on the OS. (Or perhaps has a Sticky on this forum!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 What about Lallana? I think Puncheon can play anywhere in the midfield. IMO I doubt Puncheon will even be a Saints player. He likes MK Dons and will want to see it out. Plus Sky Sports Sources for Saints are poor. Really? Don't they have a well known former player in their team at Sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Really? Don't they have a well known former player in their team at Sky?Yeah, the man that got Michael Fialka an interview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 No it's because they where pretty crap, if Barnard finished his chance we would have been comfortble winners. Got to aim to be beating sides which aren't even in the top 6. We had four 1m+ players on the pitch yesterday and we can't make it count. Those are exactly the sort of game we have to learn to win if we're going to get promoted next season. Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Surely when they signed they'd have used an ounce of brain cell & realised there was a pretty good chance we wouldn't be going up this season & it was more about building for a title winning push next season. The likes of Fonte would never have signed a 3.5yr contract if this wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Why? they Knew the score when they signed up that promotion was unlikely this yearand we don't have to sell. It's time clubs got tough with players with and their contracts I reckon. If we had a Kenwyne Jones moment now I'd like think our new owners would say "play or see out your contract in the reserves for the next two years" we can afford to do that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Depends. The FA Cup and JP Trophy winners medals coupled with the prospect of European football might keep them happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: the VAST MAJORITY of them i would SAY. Sorry i was just continuing your random capital latter rants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flickjax Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: your being silly here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Do not agree at all. Our best players will be being looked after financially. I think they will believe we would be promoted next season. Im sure they would have bought in to "the project," and if they really are ambitious and not simply mercenary, they will stay. Also next season, even if we have not been promoted this season, we will be even higher profile, with more peopler understanding our financial strength, we will only find it easier to attract the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 He's had a rather eclectic career. Starts at Wimbledon, joins them at the MK Dons after the move only to be realsed, a token appearance for Lewes and Fisher Athletic (!?) later he joins Barnet, only to join Plymouth and then rejoin the MK Dons on loan to go full circle. Random as Hell! Yep and add Ince's comments hinting that whilst he is talented enough for the prem other personal qualities, inconsistency among, them have kept him in Lg1. Why would Plymouth loan out rather than sell a Lg1 superstar? I worry the bloke is a talented but frustrating pain in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I expect it's the money through the turnstiles (big attendances for league games and lots of extra cup games) and extra prize money from the cup runs, that are paying the wages. I saw somewhere £250K for the TV rights for the Pompey game. They'll still be here, especially when we're on a roll for automatic promotion and winning a few more cup games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I think they have taken it out the ticker :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 the VAST MAJORITY of them i would SAY. Sorry i was just continuing your random capital latter rants. Well done to you Don't even bother to consider what I said to be remotely within the realms of possibility then. No one knows what are in players contracts. They have all been "sold" the Club, which is fair enough, but what IF it goes T*ts Up ??? ( Just one capital word, I trust this assists ??? ):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Why can't sky keep their noses out until we've done the deal! At least the twitter monkey didn't come on and laugh and say we weren't buying Puncheon! Hopefully something today or tomorrow, wouldn't be surprised if it was announced tomorrow at 12 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Completely agree, this is the second time Sky have shot their bolt too early, just means we will trust them less and less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I have sent strong words advising Sky to hold back on any premature ..ooops!.. releases on the rumours ..Saints being linked to Rooney and Gerrard..It is not doing our image any good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 If he is as good as people are raving about and potentially premier league standard why are Plymouth loaning him out and looking to sell him??? Did he play at the game at St Marys? I can't say i can remember him standing out that day if he did and unfortunately i couldnt make it to Milton Keynes for the cup game. I'm sure judging by the reports and what people on here are saying about him he is a very good player but i cant remember seeing him play. Why would Plymouth be wanting to sell him though??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 If he is as good as people are raving about and potentially premier league standard why are Plymouth loaning him out and looking to sell him??? Did he play at the game at St Marys? I can't say i can remember him standing out that day if he did and unfortunately i couldnt make it to Milton Keynes for the cup game. I'm sure judging by the reports and what people on here are saying about him he is a very good player but i cant remember seeing him play. Why would Plymouth be wanting to sell him though??? He scored the free kick for them. No idea why Plymouth want to get rid, but there are many factors to how a player performs - not just his ability. He is a quality player and would make a real difference to our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 If he is as good as people are raving about and potentially premier league standard why are Plymouth loaning him out and looking to sell him??? Did he play at the game at St Marys? I can't say i can remember him standing out that day if he did and unfortunately i couldnt make it to Milton Keynes for the cup game. I'm sure judging by the reports and what people on here are saying about him he is a very good player but i cant remember seeing him play. Why would Plymouth be wanting to sell him though??? Yeh he did play, he was the one that scored the free kick just before half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I'm mostly thinking about what purpose he is bought for. He appears mainly a winger, so it doesn't seem to be as a CM specialist, which I thought that we were desperate for, mainly as a replacement for Wotton. Antonio, Waigo, Holmes, Mills (possibly), and Lallana - there appears to be a few wide players around, but the shortcomings have been to grab hold of the middle of the park. All this is of course an academic exercise if we keep on bypassing the midfield with aimless headers, clearances, and KD aiming for Ricky's head. We will probably only control midfield if we are confident that we can retain possession there, and if we are not trying we are not likely to succeed. A bit of a surprising signing, but he must be part of some plan AP is working to. Can't quite figure out which one, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Maybe signing Puncheon to play on the left would free up Lallana to play a more central role, meaning that we don't actually need to sign another creative midfield player? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Interesting how there's no news dated 28/1/2010 on the OS yet... Usually there's some form of news up by now. Maybe they're awaiting confirmation of this (or another) deal before putting something on there? Btw, the Puncheon bid is in the Mirror today (£300k, £6k per week wages) and they've been pretty spot on recently (Fonte, Barnard etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Maybe signing Puncheon to play on the left would free up Lallana to play a more central role, meaning that we don't actually need to sign another creative midfield player? Just a thought. I think there is some value in what you are saying. I think AP is looking for a more fluid system where he can change the set up of the team mid match. i.e. going from 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 to 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I reckon Pards will sign Puncheon AND one other CM...then that's our lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Under FA rules MK Dons can't block him coming to us unless they exercise their option to purchase him permanently. Even then like all these things it will be down to what the player wants to do. If Plymouth have a buyer then MKD have to exercise the option. If there is any repayment of fee it would be between MKD and Plymouth. We would only deal with Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Ask yourself this If we DO NOT get promoted THIS season, how many of our players, especially those "£1m" rated ones, are actually going to be at St Mary's for NEXT season, STILL in Div 1 ????? IMHO, NOT MANY:cool: Not many - particularly those with ambition. Many would have signed as assumed (like me) that the playoffs were realistic this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Sorry, don't agree. Players will have signed knowing full well we might not go up this year. They will all stay for next season at least, and if we don't go up THEN they will start asking to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StD Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Not many - particularly those with ambition. Many would have signed as assumed (like me) that the playoffs were realistic this season. Even IF we get the playoffs, its far from certain that we will win them - remember there are 3 other teams who have performed similarly well over the season. The players when signing (even Ricky back in August) will have known that playoff victory was an outside possibility and (if we fail) we'll have another better prepared crack at it next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I'm mostly thinking about what purpose he is bought for. He appears mainly a winger, so it doesn't seem to be as a CM specialist, which I thought that we were desperate for, mainly as a replacement for Wotton. Antonio, Waigo, Holmes, Mills (possibly), and Lallana - there appears to be a few wide players around, but the shortcomings have been to grab hold of the middle of the park. All this is of course an academic exercise if we keep on bypassing the midfield with aimless headers, clearances, and KD aiming for Ricky's head. We will probably only control midfield if we are confident that we can retain possession there, and if we are not trying we are not likely to succeed. A bit of a surprising signing, but he must be part of some plan AP is working to. Can't quite figure out which one, though. He is the quick left sider we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 I think there is some value in what you are saying. I think AP is looking for a more fluid system where he can change the set up of the team mid match. i.e. going from 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 to 4-3-3. Although I thought one of our better performances (Walsall away) was achieved without Lallana(came on near the end).We lined up James,Hammond,Schneiderlin,Antonio that day (or so I seem to remember) with Lambert and Connolly and we totally dominated them.You have to ask yourself do we really need Lallana now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Even IF we get the playoffs, its far from certain that we will win them - remember there are 3 other teams who have performed similarly well over the season. The players when signing (even Ricky back in August) will have known that playoff victory was an outside possibility and (if we fail) we'll have another better prepared crack at it next year. Get to the playoffs and just miss out is better than finishing in the bottom half of L1. Gives us a good foundation to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 spot on. we can buy as many attacking wingers/strikers as we want, but as long as we have Wotton in the midfield hoofing it in the air, we will not do anything. I actually don't even think Rickie is amazing in the air, he's not. Anyone with a decent size and strength centre half has dominated him if the service has been hoof style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Davis/Bart Otsemebor/Murty/Thomas/Seaborne/Fonte/Jaidi/Harding/Mills Waigo/Antonio/Hammond/Morgan/James/Puncheon/Lallana/Holmes Lambert/Barnard/Connolly Add a back up young striker and we'll walk this league next season;) Paterson? Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Not many - particularly those with ambition. Many would have signed as assumed (like me) that the playoffs were realistic this season. Thankfully not many of our players are like you and wouldn't therefore have assumed anything. You're in a minority of one in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 January, 2010 Share Posted 28 January, 2010 Paterson? Oh. I do question the decision to get rid of Paterson, only to get rid of saga a few days later. only three strikers is not great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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