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1 million seems a heck of alot...

 

Seems alot for a L1 side - but guess thats the price you pay to beat off competition.

 

CCC clubs (Watford, Reading) have been linked as have MKD's (on a perm) and Leeds.

 

It will go down as undisclosed no doubt!

Posted
1 million seems a heck of alot...

 

it won't be a million quid - that came from the fountain of all knowledge 606. If Plymouth had a player worth a million would they loan him out? Probably not.

 

I'd be amazed if the fee is even half that.

Posted
So we won't pay £800,000 for Stock but we'll pay £1m for Puncheon. :-o

 

Until that window slams shut lets wait and see. Puncheon is not a central midfield player and AP says he wants a replacement for Mellis who, I believe, played central midfield.

 

Wether its Stock or A.N.Other I wouldnt rule out another signing before the 1 February regardless of us getting Puncheon or not.

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it won't be a million quid - that came from the fountain of all knowledge 606. If Plymouth had a player worth a million would they loan him out? Probably not.

 

I'd be amazed if the fee is even half that.

 

That's what I thought. Maybe it could rise to a million depending on appearances, promotion, international appearances, champions league winners medals and the like.

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Under FA third party rules a player on loan to another club is tied to the loan club, only in so much as they have under the agreement been given an option to purchase, should the home club want to sell the player.

 

MK Dons therefore have to exercise that right and match the offer or the transfer will go through. I suspect that they would also have to match the players new contract offer.

 

I know we can't talk to the player without permission but the agent would have this end tied up.

Posted (edited)
I don't know, i suppose i did jump the gun a little.

 

Personally i think spiderman is a better player and james will be a better prospect.

 

Wotton as terrible as he is seems to be a destructive enough playing DM in a 3 man midfield but hopeless in a two man.

 

IMO we could do with an extra DM.

 

Hammond hasn't impressed up to his name and hype when he joined.

 

The problem as I see it is that none of them can dominate a game - none of them seem to be able to drive the team forward and dictate the play. Imo Hammond is the nearest player we have to be able to do that but we just seem lacking in that department somehow.

 

The word I am looking for is power I think, we need more midfield power to overrun opponents midfield and go through them like they weren't there.

Edited by Katalinic
Posted
Wouldnt MKD's pay 300K?

 

Plymouth paid 250 and sent him on loan - he's been a hit at MKD's so imagine they will look for more than 20% profit?

 

Think he is aiming higher than MK Dons, both in terms of career and wages.

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The problem as I see it is that none of them can dominate a game - none of them seem to be able to drive the team forward and dictate the play. Imo Hammond is the nearest player we have to be able to do that but we just seem lacking in that department somehow.

 

He is full of running tbf to him but he doesn't have the cutting edge for me and is too slow.

 

Spiderman is by far the most creative when he is on the ball but is not defensive minded enough and needs a player there to win the ball and bring him in etc.

 

Without a new DM i would prob play 4-5-1 with james, spiderman and hammond in the center.

 

But then pards has caused himself problems signing barnard as if he has been told he is in the first team then he needs to play 4-4-2 which is a shame as i think our strongest team suits 4-5-1

Posted

I dont see it happening, seems dependant on MK Dons cancelling loan agreement, if so I cant see them handing us their best player prior to the second leg. also looks like a number of clubs are tracking him all of which may come in with bids.. nothing to say we have even spoken to him as of yet..

 

Hope I am wrong, but still looks a long way off.

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I think if this wasn't happening, we would have had Saints' Official Twitter site on saying something like "Lol at SSN, second time they've got it wrong in the last few weeks!" They were almost immediate in their rubbishing of the "Ward Signs" report.

Posted
I think if this wasn't happening, we would have had Saints' Official Twitter site on saying something like "Lol at SSN, second time they've got it wrong in the last few weeks!" They were almost immediate in their rubbishing of the "Ward Signs" report.

 

I am thinking this aswell

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I think if this wasn't happening, we would have had Saints' Official Twitter site on saying something like "Lol at SSN, second time they've got it wrong in the last few weeks!" They were almost immediate in their rubbishing of the "Ward Signs" report.

 

Alternatively they're all down the pub having a few beers watching the Manchester derby cos there's no news that ever breaks on a Wednesday night :)

Posted
Under FA third party rules a player on loan to another club is tied to the loan club, only in so much as they have under the agreement been given an option to purchase, should the home club want to sell the player.

 

MK Dons therefore have to exercise that right and match the offer or the transfer will go through. I suspect that they would also have to match the players new contract offer.

 

I know we can't talk to the player without permission but the agent would have this end tied up.

 

Good spot - guess that clears that up then:D

Posted

He's technically good and very quick. Looks like the Mellis replacement that Pardew was after. He wasn't great for Plymouth, but to be fair he didn't get much of a chance. I didn't get to see him at MK Dons so he may have improved.

 

£1m seems a lot but hey I guess we can afford it!

Posted (edited)
At the risk of asking a really stupid question, with Plymouth struggling in the CCC, why is he not in their side if he's that good?

 

Perhaps for the same reason we loaned out John, Rasiak and Saga last season when we struggled for goals?

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At the risk of asking a really stupid question, with Plymouth struggling in the CCC, why is he not in their side if he's that good?

 

Memory serves me correct..there may have been a domestic reason with his other half........Living in Plymouth so far away from the rest of the world....Could not settle etc :smt054......I may be wrong:rolleyes:

Posted
As in, it's a done deal? Or a rumour on Sky Sports?

I would orgasm if this happened.

 

Post 7, post 27 and post 45: SC is into multiple orgasms. Determined to make the thread a sticky, eh?

Posted
Post 7, post 27 and post 45: SC is into multiple orgasms. Determined to make the thread a sticky, eh?

 

There were three threads about Puncheon, they were all merged into one.

Posted
There were three threads about Puncheon, they were all merged into one.

 

Think that makes it worse - troilism. (Me, I'm to old for that these days)

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Think that makes it worse - troilism. (Me, I'm to old for that these days)

 

If I get infractions for a one off joke about so many threads of the same topic being started it will be a travesty and will make a mockery of the justice system IMO.

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Posted
if he signs...how much longer can we excuse not beating teams made up of frees and loanees..?

 

 

would be a brilliant signing by the way

 

If you're talking about yesterdays result then it's inexcusable already. We should be beating **** like that everyweek.

Posted
I was told back early this wasnt going to happen till the Summer, strange one for it now.

Plus Plymouth linked with Danns, could add up.

WTF has Danns going to Plymouth got to do with it?? ITK c-ockle.
Posted
Wright Philips replacement?

 

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/949592.footballer_in_robbery_arrest/

 

Do we have the biggest squad in the world yet?

 

Come on, this squad is getting rediculous. AP needs to concentrate a bit more on his tactics and consistant team selection with subtle changes for fatigue rather than these wholasale defencesive personnel changes. I am seriously concerned about the AP decision making all round. He has a multitude of his own players now and has spent fortunes compared to say Brentford so it's time for results and pattern of play now. Much less 'humping' less bias towards not picking certain players i.e. Thomas - however well he plays and James who only has to turn up to be picked every time.

 

More thought now and less default to the transfer market. I just think AP has gone a bit stir crazy and needs to focus on the job in hand...

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I was told back early this wasnt going to happen till the Summer, strange one for it now.

Plus Plymouth linked with Danns, could add up.

 

Maybe it's why the fees a bit high (if the 1 million figure is true). We're effectively paying off MKD the money they paid for a full season loan as well as the transfer fee. Plus, in spite of the result last night, maybe the playoffs are still our target and there's a realisation we can't afford to waste any more games so there's more urgency to buy a creative, goalscoring winger.

Posted
If you're talking about yesterdays result then it's inexcusable already. We should be beating **** like that everyweek.

 

Why? If Brentford are **** what does that make us. I love this billy big ******** attitude some of our fans have. Some really do think we only have to turn up to win:rolleyes:

Posted
Why? If Brentford are **** what does that make us. I love this billy big ******** attitude some of our fans have. Some really do think we only have to turn up to win:rolleyes:

 

No it's because they where pretty crap, if Barnard finished his chance we would have been comfortble winners.

 

Got to aim to be beating sides which aren't even in the top 6. We had four 1m+ players on the pitch yesterday and we can't make it count. Those are exactly the sort of game we have to learn to win if we're going to get promoted next season.

Posted
with Palace now in administration I am slightly puzzled by the we want Danns brigade not reappearing.

 

Left sided player makes more sense, not sure who's the better player from the two but we've been crying out for a left sided player for ages.

Posted

Assuming the Puncheon story is true, still think if we dont have a CM who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and start attacks, we won't see the best of any of our AMs. Its no coincidence that the likes of Lallana struggle when we play hoofball.

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