SO16_Saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Come on people, it's not the end of the world, getting a point away at Brentford. We're still on the up and up, things are going in the right direction - maybe not right now, but it is. chill, guys.
sfcjmcsfc16 Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 rubbish, we need to win games not draw your the crazy one
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Not the end of the world, still p*ssed off though. But i'll get over it and tomorrow it won't seem so bad.
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 we need to win these games...the club has shelled out an utter fortune to win..pardew states the players are only here to win..he says we need to win.. we are not really winning....we have become pretty average by the sounds of it...
sadoldgit Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 we need to win these games...the club has shelled out an utter fortune to win..pardew states the players are only here to win..he says we need to win.. we are not really winning....we have become pretty average by the sounds of it... You don't get it do you? When will the penny drop? You can't buy results. Simples.
docker-p Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 The inability to win against sides in the top half is a continuing problem. As is letting leads go. Lets just focus on the cups.
SO16_Saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Author Posted 26 January, 2010 we've lost 2 of the last 15 matches. hardly going to ratsh*t
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You don't get it do you? When will the penny drop? You can't buy results. Simples. says who...look at the top of the prem..then look at the bottom.. look at the top of the CCC then look at the bottom... see a pattern..?
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 If you're someone who has decided that the aim of the season is to avoid relegation then it's not the end of the world. But if you think we are buying centre backs for £1.5m in League One to get into the play offs this season, this is a very disappointing result and leaves us with a hell of a lot to do to achieve that aim. To get into the top six we need championship winning form, and that isn't drawing away at Brentford, regardless of their recent form. If we wanted to win the league that's what we'd need to do. And effectively, form-wise we need to win the league to get into the play offs now.
S-Clarke Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 we're still unbeaten in 2010 before anyone grabs the razor blades, and i make it 2 decent points away at 2 tough grounds this season (millwall and brentford) a decent home game next against stockport to get a win under our belts.
petts Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 To be expected really, a defensive partnership getting used to each other and a new forward partnership, so considering this it is a good away point. Hopefully things will start to gel by next game and we'll still win the 15 we need.
pilsburydoughboy Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 The inability to win against sides in the top half is a continuing problem. As is letting leads go. Lets just focus on the cups. Follow the Gourd
sadoldgit Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 says who...look at the top of the prem..then look at the bottom.. look at the top of the CCC then look at the bottom... see a pattern..? Where are Ipswich and how much did they spend? How much did Man City spend and what are the odds of them winning the Prem? You need to move on mate. It is players and teams that win things not bank balances.
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 we're still unbeaten in 2010 before anyone grabs the razor blades, and i make it 2 decent points away at 2 tough grounds this season (millwall and brentford) a decent home game next against stockport to get a win under our belts. not really good enough though is it..? lets be honest.. we have spent money to bring in players that are too good for this league..and snipped other teams stars.. brentford and millwall rely on frees, loans and..well, the team they came up from league 2 with...we have a prem standard manager who has unlimited league 1 funds and facilities that belong in the premier league.. why are we bothering spending millions when teams who we cant beat spend nothing..? we struggle to win in the league to any team around the playoffs.... not really that great is it..?
sadoldgit Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 we've lost 2 of the last 15 matches. hardly going to ratsh*t Indeed. How many teams that spend a fortune roll teams over every game? If we were losing games I'd be worried but we are not. I think we also know that we are no Leeds yet either.
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You don't get it do you? When will the penny drop? You can't buy results. Simples. Didn't stop you squinneying like a bit ch when Georgie boy had fewer resources in his second season, though. Funny in your world not having resources is a massive handicap and oh how can we ever compete but having loads of money makes no difference on the pitch at all.
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Where are Ipswich and how much did they spend? How much did Man City spend and what are the odds of them winning the Prem? You need to move on mate. It is players and teams that win things not bank balances. why are we buying players from the CCC then..? why have we bought the leagues top 2 strikers..? why bother spending all that money..? if danny wilson can come in and spend nothing (and lose his star player) then why are we bothering with massive money...why not coach what we have and pick up frees..?
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 why are we buying players from the CCC then..? why have we bought the leagues top 2 strikers..? why bother spending all that money..? if danny wilson can come in and spend nothing (and lose his star player) then why are we bothering with massive money...why not coach what we have and pick up frees..? Quite. If we were skint SOG would be lecturing left right and centre about how impossible it is for us and how we could never dream of competing with teams with more resources. But then he is always looking to have it both ways.
scott_saints Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 And here lies the problem of spending money. We all scream for it to be spent and cheer when this happens, but lose one match then crikey..... "we should be doing better, we spent money ffs!"
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 And here lies the problem of spending money. We all scream for it to be spent and cheer when this happens, but lose one match then crikey..... "we should be doing better, we spent money ffs!" We didn't even lose and we're getting the mongs on here insinuating that Pardew is doing a sh*t job.
alpine_saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 says who...look at the top of the prem..then look at the bottom.. look at the top of the CCC then look at the bottom... see a pattern..? You cant reason with an idiot, TDD.
scott_saints Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 We didn't even lose and we're getting the mongs on here insinuating that Pardew is doing a sh*t job. 'twas hypothetical. But this problem will be with us whilst we have money now. Alps and delldays WILL be saying "we spent money ffs, not good enough" after EVERY negative result.
John B Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 not really good enough though is it..? lets be honest.. we have spent money to bring in players that are too good for this league..and snipped other teams stars.. brentford and millwall rely on frees, loans and..well, the team they came up from league 2 with...we have a prem standard manager who has unlimited league 1 funds and facilities that belong in the premier league.. why are we bothering spending millions when teams who we cant beat spend nothing..? we struggle to win in the league to any team around the playoffs.... not really that great is it..? We seem to be back to our early form in the League before the team gelled we had four new players in tonight But not sure if all the new players are any better to the ones we already had
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 'twas hypothetical. But this problem will be with us whilst we have money now. Alps and delldays WILL be saying "we spent money ffs, not good enough" after EVERY negative result. I think we can add Stevo and Glasgow to that list as well.
Ponty Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 says who...look at the top of the prem..then look at the bottom.. Not a great example when you factor in Pompey.
SaintBobby Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Disappointing result and (by the sound of the Solent commentary) a pretty shabby second half performance. But I agree that it's not the end of the world. Leeds lost 3-0 at Swindon (having also been beaten in their last league game by Exeter). Charlton lost at home to Leyton Orient last night. Norwich only just scraped a win at Carlisle. But those three are probably going up - and 2 of them in the auto places. Funny old game etc. I still think the play-offs are just achievable. Although the cups - much as I love them - are now getting in the way. I think there's a 75% chance we'll still be in League One next season. But in 2010-11, I really, honestly do beleive we'll walk this league! I do worry about those who say we should be making the play-offs. Not because I don't admire their ambition, but because it seems the term "play-off" is getting conflated with "promotion". Even if we make the play-offs, we probably won't be promoted. I'll settle for: 1. Winning the JPT in March 2. Beating the skates on Feb 13th 3. Finishing 8th or 9th this season 4. Winning League One with 100 points next year. I also think that's what I'm going to get.
alpine_saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 'twas hypothetical. But this problem will be with us whilst we have money now. Alps and delldays WILL be saying "we spent money ffs, not good enough" after EVERY negative result. So you are trying to argue that our performances and form havent dropped, are you ? All of you saying we should be happy with a draw are symptomatic of the low-grade zero-rated ambition that our club has been blighted with for the past decade.
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You can't buy instant results. I would expect 6 to 10 games with a settled side before we start to win consistently. Playoffs this season have always been a remote possibility, but we need another month of results before we can start giving up hope.
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 'twas hypothetical. But this problem will be with us whilst we have money now. Alps and delldays WILL be saying "we spent money ffs, not good enough" after EVERY negative result. hey..I dont expect us to win every week ffs..I even thought we would lose away to leeds and we probably will lose away to norwich... but overall...the league form is nothing but average....imo and I dont think the owners signed up for average and certainly made their intent for anything BUT average....regardless of the cup competitions..the league is what it is all about for us over the next few years imo of course I have noticed that many who are saying we can be average this season as we will win the league next year....why..? if we keep stuttering now, in mid season why would we be 30 points better next year..?
NickG Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 rubbish, we need to win games not draw your the crazy one need to win games! wonder if they realised that.
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 We didn't even lose and we're getting the mongs on here insinuating that Pardew is doing a sh*t job. Who is insinuating that then? Cortese and Pardew are trying to get into the play offs this season. I know people on here try and pretend they aren't, but they are. But to achieve it we really need to win lots of games, and games like Brentford away is the type of game we need to win. Can't anyone say "this is putting us off-track" without dopey old women ranting about "mongs insinuating Pardew is doing a sh*t job". Get over it. We can moan about falling behind without demanding the manager be sacked. Get off your high horse. Go on, tell us how long Alex Ferguson was given. Go on. Give us that lecture. We've never heard it before.
StuRomseySaint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Dont give a toss about the league... we were never going to get to the playoffs anyway. Its all about JPT and Pompey this year, win both of them then it would have been a great season for me.
NickG Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Rebuilding season; mid-table, outside chance of play offs last 16 of FA cup (with easy home draw to make it into quarter finals) need to draw a home game against MK Dons to get to Wembley final draw disappointing but lets not get carried away. Brentford at home against top teams; beat Norwich, Colchester, drew with Leeds, Charlton, Millwall lost to Swindon
alpine_saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Who is insinuating that then? Cortese and Pardew are trying to get into the play offs this season. I know people on here try and pretend they aren't, but they are. But to achieve it we really need to win lots of games, and games like Brentford away is the type of game we need to win. Can't anyone say "this is putting us off-track" without dopey old women ranting about "mongs insinuating Pardew is doing a sh*t job". Get over it. We can moan about falling behind without demanding the manager be sacked. Get off your high horse. Go on, tell us how long Alex Ferguson was given. Go on. Give us that lecture. We've never heard it before. You've forgotten how Lawrie Mac took us down first too...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You cant reason with an idiot, TDD. 'They'll only drag you down to their level, and they've got more experience'
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You've forgotten how Lawrie Mac took us down first too... Thank you, you've made my point for me.
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 You've forgotten how Lawrie Mac took us down first too... You've ruined SOG's evening. He was about to launch into it.
alpine_saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Rebuilding season; mid-table, outside chance of play offs last 16 of FA cup (with easy home draw to make it into quarter finals) need to draw a home game against MK Dons to get to Wembley final draw disappointing but lets not get carried away. Brentford at home against top teams; beat Norwich, Colchester, drew with Leeds, Charlton, Millwall lost to Swindon Does that steaming pile of b*llsh*t make you feel better ?
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Does that steaming pile of b*llsh*t make you feel better ? Everything he posted there was a fact Alpine.
S-Clarke Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 what exactly is bull**** about that post, alps?
CB Fry Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 what exactly is bull**** about that post, alps? The rebuilding season bit for a start. The aim this season was and is the play offs.
Kingsland Red Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Realistically the only play off place we're chasing is the 6th one currently occupied by Millwall 13 points ahead of us.The five teams above that are all on good form showing no signs of flagging. I reckon a point away and three at home, ie 4 out of every 6 is good enough, hence joining this thread !
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 well...if they are that great, then maybe we have the wrong manager..I mean, he can do so much with league 2 players and no money...why are we bothering with spending millions and having 40 players in the first team..? (I dont really mean we should change the manager)
NickG Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Who is insinuating that then? Cortese and Pardew are trying to get into the play offs this season. I know people on here try and pretend they aren't, but they are. But to achieve it we really need to win lots of games, and games like Brentford away is the type of game we need to win. Can't anyone say "this is putting us off-track" without dopey old women ranting about "mongs insinuating Pardew is doing a sh*t job". Get over it. We can moan about falling behind without demanding the manager be sacked. Get off your high horse. Go on, tell us how long Alex Ferguson was given. Go on. Give us that lecture. We've never heard it before. of course they are trying to get into play offs, they really want to. Don't think they ever expected it though
alpine_saint Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Everything he posted there was a fact Alpine. So...what ? I could post a list of "facts" that show you how poor we are doing considering all issues.
Saint_clark Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 So...what ? I could post a list of "facts" that show you how poor we are doing considering all issues. I could also post a list of facts that show you how well we are doing. Like 3rd in the form guide. And only 2 losses in the last 15 games.
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 of course they are trying to get into play offs, they really want to. Don't think they ever expected it though of course they did...cortese stated he was going for top 2....and they sure have spent the money..
St Landrew Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Does that steaming pile of b*llsh*t make you feel better ? It's no wonder you often find yourself with people on your back, and being on the verge of being infracted. Is it possible for you to ring your insults in please..?
NickG Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Does that steaming pile of b*llsh*t make you feel better ? p1ssed off at not winning but not suffering from a personality disorder whereby thinking that drawing away (result not bettered by any of top teams) doesn't make me hate my club and its manager. What is bull in that then?
NickG Posted 26 January, 2010 Posted 26 January, 2010 Rebuilding season; mid-table, outside chance of play offs last 16 of FA cup (with easy home draw to make it into quarter finals) need to draw a home game against MK Dons to get to Wembley final draw disappointing but lets not get carried away. Brentford at home against top teams; beat Norwich, Colchester, drew with Leeds, Charlton, Millwall lost to Swindon Everything he posted there was a fact Alpine. what exactly is bull**** about that post, alps? exactly - all true but doesn't fit with some people's agends to knock the club all of the time for fun.
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