Scudamore Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 You're sort of proving my point. Lallana will not be here next season. Lowe is already excited at the prospect of selling him. Cork is not our player and will be gone. Any youngster who does well this season will leave. And then what? More youngsters? There is only one way this team is going and it's down. And we will run out of players to sell. I can't wait for us to be the Crewe Alexandra of the south. It's just such an exciting prospect I can't help but picture D:ck Dastardly when i read posts like this... Woopert really is evil isn't he? ------------------------ Why is d:ck in the swear filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I can't help but picture D:ck Dastardly when i read posts like this... Woopert really is evil isn't he? ------------------------ Why is d:ck in the swear filter? Rupert said it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Rupert said it should be. Muttley has more of a say in the club than i think you realise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Muttley has more of a say in the club than i think you realise... Is that Rupert's pet name for Michael? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Is that Rupert's pet name for Michael? Have you ever seen Muttley and Michael Wilde in the same room? I know i haven't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Have you ever seen Muttley and Michael Wilde in the same room? I know i haven't Quod erat demonstrandum :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 It doesnt take a lot to work that out. The secret is providing jam when all the ingredients you have is fruit that is not ripe and your housekeeping is all gone. Well forgive me if I'm stating the obvious nickh but a number of good folks above seem to be suggesting that all will be OK as long as we escape relegation this year (so that we can rebuild next). I'm humbly suggesting that this won't work as the club would be out of business through low attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Well forgive me if I'm stating the obvious nickh but a number of good folks above seem to be suggesting that all will be OK as long as we escape relegation this year (so that we can rebuild next). I'm humbly suggesting that this won't work as the club would be out of business through low attendances. The attendance thing is a problem. If we bought a couple of players how would that guarentee thousnads turning up on the back of it.Afterall we are told fans are not going because RL is there.The only guarenteed way is to put out a winning side and unless we get a backer we have to make a wining side from the little resource we have. Or is there another way? IMO it is survival this season and not getting into administration and then perhaps improving next, but by not going into administration is paramount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole1 Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I dont think he would, he wouldnt wish to risk money on a club that was on -15. I think that would test the resolve of too many fans No way would Lowe and/or Wilde form a concert party and become sole owners of SFC. Can anyone really see Lowe risking his Farmhouse by becoming responsible for the debt? What will happen is that Lowe, Wilde and the other major sharholders will effectively give their shares away to another party willing to take on the debt as has happened at Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Rome was not built in a day and many of you will recall Wilde's comments on this forum a few weeks ago after the Exeter game when he said there will be highs and lows in the coming season. I think he's right. Well, he was right about the lows anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 how the hell can anyone answer such a thing without knowing the ins and outs of the finances and contracts etc.. all this place is for is for people to give opinions whether they be slightly odd, mental or completely sensible is that so hard for people to grasp?? I can grasp the concept, but I did ask of you a question, and I'll have to get all John Snow here. In your opinion, what is Lowe doing wrong, that you would recommend that you would do, if you were him. Please feel free to base your answer on all information in the public domain, and I am fully understanding of the restricted nature of any answer you may give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I can grasp the concept, but I did ask of you a question, and I'll have to get all John Snow here. In your opinion, what is Lowe doing wrong, that you would recommend that you would do, if you were him. Please feel free to base your answer on all information in the public domain. you never asked me that question?..:confused: I have not said he has done anything wrong this time around... but dont let that get in the way of your pre placed thoughts on certain posters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I can grasp the concept, but I did ask of you a question, and I'll have to get all John Snow here. In your opinion, what is Lowe doing wrong, that you would recommend that you would do, if you were him. Please feel free to base your answer on all information in the public domain, and I am fully understanding of the restricted nature of any answer you may give. SSA Delldays has never been an anti Lowe that i can recall and so it must be a misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 (edited) That wasnt my point, R. I am point out that this stuff about surviving this season and having something to build on next season is utter nonsense. Alpine and I get on fine as we have known each other years but I do think that he lacks a plan B himself at times. I'd like to know what Alps suggests as an alternative to the following scenarios: * Buy old hacks on the cheap and play bad footie like we did under Burley last year (though some of his old hacks were not cheap admittedly) * Use young players who may not be ready or even up to the task as creatively as possible with a few on field mentors as JP is trying to do Both options have their problems but I fail to see a realistic alternative given our parlous finances. Over to you Alps! Edited 18 September, 2008 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 you never asked me that question?..:confused: I have not said he has done anything wrong this time around... but dont let that get in the way of your pre placed thoughts on certain posters... I have no pre placed thoughts one way or the other, nor do I assume nor pander to peoples predudices. SSA Delldays has never been an anti Lowe that i can recall and so it must be a misunderstanding. And I am not accusing you of being anti- or Pro- Lowe. I really, honestly, and truthfully would like to know what you would suggest, as within your posts I have never found one where you make a constructive suggestion. Don't take this as a personal attack, I just want to knop what you are thinking we should do to improve. But you just don't answer the question, you just avoid it. Therefore consider it withdrawn. ANd I apologies for any mis-concieved slant you may have got from a perfectly reasonable question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I have no pre placed thoughts one way or the other, nor do I assume nor pander to peoples predudices. And I am not accusing you of being anti- or Pro- Lowe. I really, honestly, and truthfully would like to know what you would suggest, as within your posts I have never found one where you make a constructive suggestion. Don't take this as a personal attack, I just want to knop what you are thinking we should do to improve. But you just don't answer the question, you just avoid it. Therefore consider it withdrawn. ANd I apologies for any mis-concieved slant you may have got from a perfectly reasonable question. what question? and what on earth posed you to ask me? i have had and do have very little to say on the lowe matter these days....:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Alpine and I get on fine as we have known each other years but I do think that he lacks a plan B himself at times. I'd like to know what Alps suggests as an alternative to the following scenarios: * Buy old hacks on the cheap and play bad footie like we did under Burley last year (though some of his old hacks were not cheap admittedly) * Use young players who may not be ready or even up to the task as creatively as possible with a few on field mentors as JP is trying to do Both options have their problems but I fail to see a realistic alternative given our parlous finances. Over to you Alps! The second scenario you describe is better than the first. However, I would argue we are NOT doing that at the moment. Stern John has been poorly used so is unfit and demotivated, Skacel's continued absence is ridiculous, and Perry's absence against QPR is baffling. I'll put down the absences of Thomas, Euell and Killer to injury. We are actually playing inexperienced kids at every opportunity that presents itself, and it aint going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 So where is the "jam tomorrow" coming from, and how do you intend to get to next season with plummeting attendances dragging the finances down this season ? Sorry, assuming next season has to get better is completely stupid and is burying your head in the sand. Especially as anyone showing progress this season will be flogged in January or the summer, meaning back-to-square-one. I'm concerned about that too, especially losing some of the more promising players before next season. I guess we just have to take a step at a time and and face the next problem as it comes. Seems as a club we're not in a position to genuinely plan for success anymore.... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 The second scenario you describe is better than the first. However, I would argue we are NOT doing that at the moment. Stern John has been poorly used so is unfit and demotivated, Skacel's continued absence is ridiculous, and Perry's absence against QPR is baffling. I'll put down the absences of Thomas, Euell and Killer to injury. We are actually playing inexperienced kids at every opportunity that presents itself, and it aint going to work. I hear what you're saying but from what I understand, I think maybe John is never going to fit properly with the system, Skacel is still returning to full fitness after missing a proper pre-season and subsequent injury, and Perry was not being played three times in a week so was left out against QPR and Lancashire brought in on that occasion to counter the pace of the QPR breaks.....shame that didn't work out! :-/ We do need more experience in there though. Two or three more players and we could be a really decent side.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 Without more experience in the side I'm concerned that morale and confidence will drop and we will underperform more and more. It has been my concern since I saw us against West Ham, which was a good performance. There is no substitute for experience in any walk of life. (That's coming form a 50 year old mind!) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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