Cortese off?

[revolution saint]

I'm sure Solent were reporting that a Serie A club had offered Cortese a boardroom post this morning. Anyone else hear it?

[silversaint]

i bloody hope not.

[The Godfather]

I doubt it as he's Liebherr's right hand man in all ofhis businesses.

[saintsmike25]

Far less money to be made in Italy at the moment and Cortese isn't going to leave he's one of Marcus's employee's I'm pretty sure he's on a contract.

[John B]

Far less money to be made in Italy at the moment and Cortese isn't going to leave he's one of Marcus's employee's I'm pretty sure he's on a contract.

 

He could still be on the board of a Serie A Club perhaps

[sadoldgit]

Could work in our favour if they have some young players that need developing! Still, lets see what happens.

[exit2]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4871585.Cortese_linked_with_move_to_Italy/

[Block 5]

No reason why he couldn't perform both roles.

Plenty of business people sit on the boards of multiple companies.

And as other posters have already said, this could work in our favour in the transfer / loan market.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

No reason why he couldn't perform both roles.

Plenty of business people sit on the boards of multiple companies.

And as other posters have already said, this could work in our favour in the transfer / loan market.

 

Be nice though if Cortese made just a brief statement confirming his commitment to Saints (if he takes the Italian job as well) just to ease any worrying...

[alpine_saint]

He is a good businessman. Not surprised if he gets head-hunted.

 

Could also be sh*t-stirring by an Echo with an axe to grind.

 

Hope its not true, dont think its true, but if it is it does not necessarily mean he wont be managing us any more. After all, the Beetroot-Faced Bastard reckoned he could do it part-time. And if it is the end, we will have to shrug our shoulders and get on with it - its no different from any of our successful players or managers being cherry-picked.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

As much as it is possible for him to sit on both or many boards, surely with all we have going on we need all his time and attention ? due to the sizeable investment his employer has made based on his advice, I would assume, he too would want him to concentrate solely on us

[northam soul]

We have all been crying out for stability so this would be a disaster in my opinion.

He was the main reason markus got involved so for him to jump ship at the first opportunity does not send out a strong message.

There is no way he could carry out both roles to a satisfactory degree for the benefit of SFC unless we employed someone else to do some of his duties.

Six months in to a 5 year plan and already rumours are of him leaving,and is it legal for him to be involved with 2 clubs.

He needs to stay and finish what has been a very good start to the new era in southampton havnt we had enough boardromm comings and goings for now.

[alpine_saint]

We have all been crying out for stability so this would be a disaster in my opinion.

He was the main reason markus got involved so for him to jump ship at the first opportunity does not send out a strong message.

There is no way he could carry out both roles to a satisfactory degree for the benefit of SFC unless we employed someone else to do some of his duties.

Six months in to a 5 year plan and already rumours are of him leaving,and is it legal for him to be involved with 2 clubs.

He needs to stay and finish what has been a very good start to the new era in southampton havnt we had enough boardromm comings and goings for now.

 

If it is true, there is precisely f**k-all you can do about it.

[Wes Tender]

The Echo article is full of sour grapes. They're obviously still smarting about him chastising them for being naughty boys over the training ground plans.

 

And apparently the club have upset a local charity. What's that about? I bet that when the facts become known, it will be a storm in a teacup.

 

As stated by others, there is nothing unusual about a director sitting on other boards. Askham, Richards, Lowe, etc sat on several, but we didn't hear the Echo making a fuss about that.

[sussexsaint]

 

Could also be sh*t-stirring by an Echo with an axe to grind.

.

 

Indeed especially if you read the last line of the quote about 'managment upsetting a local charity' - so so bitter

[Scudamore]

But the story has come from Radio Solent. Not the Echo.

[John B]

But the story has come from Radio Solent. Not the Echo.

 

Yes you are correct but Echo did this

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4871629.Saints_chiefs____ruined____our_charity_event/

[TNT]

Using a charity event to carry on their sad little war with the club is totally out of order. Really amateurish behaviour akin to a london tabloid.

[Scudamore]

Yes you are correct but Echo did this

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4871629.Saints_chiefs____ruined____our_charity_event/

 

Using a charity as an excuse to give the club a kicking is pretty low

[dubai_phil]

The Echo article is full of sour grapes. They're obviously still smarting about him chastising them for being naughty boys over the training ground plans.

 

And apparently the club have upset a local charity. What's that about? I bet that when the facts become known, it will be a storm in a teacup.

 

As stated by others, there is nothing unusual about a director sitting on other boards. Askham, Richards, Lowe, etc sat on several, but we didn't hear the Echo making a fuss about that.

 

Upset the applecart after a good weekend for Saints fans. Fits well with your sour grapes theory.

 

On another angle though that I can see (ie IMHO), Cortese is at Southampton for one reason only - He is here to MAKE MONEY.

 

His business background shows that he is highly successful in a world of multi-million dollar bonuses. He and Markus have seen very clearly that turning Saints around and moving them up the league will turn in a very good return on their investment (They paid 14mil and a prem club with no debt and facilities could be worth 100 mil once the recession ends)

 

He will know that this is a sound and solid project. However you will also recall he made specific statements about "transition teams" 6 months and extending the Board of Directors (the old Sporting Director arguement)

 

With the club being stable and well on track for automatic promotion NEXT year (as per their plan) and a chance this year then there is no reason whatsoever that we shouldn't expect solid sensible conservative Board appointments to manage us with NC taking a continued supervisory role but less full time.

 

It's all about leverage in their world, I'm pretty sure we'll continue to be run as we are, he'll be around, just he'll build up the middle/senior management team to ease the strain and look to make a lot more money out of what he has achieved and learnt here

[TNT]

Using a charity as an excuse to give the club a kicking is pretty low

 

Yes and this comes after the daily echo created that rubbish about coventrys ward just to have a pop at SFC.

 

Reading that article it looks totally engineered. pathetic

[Toomer]

I heard this on Solent about 08.20 this morning, IMO he has to good a position with us and a free hand to a certain degree to move on.

[CB Fry]

If it is true, there is precisely f**k-all you can do about it.

 

....much like every arrival and every departure at every football club on earth. Never stopped you sticking your oar in though. If you object so vigourously to someone saying 'it would be good if our chief exec didn't leave' maybe football web forums aren't for you.

[John B]

Yes and this comes after the daily echo created that rubbish about coventrys ward just to have a pop at SFC.

 

Reading that article it looks totally engineered. pathetic

 

Yes it does seem a little pathetic from SFC according to Mr Suchet but who knows what the true facts are perhaps in time we will know

 

Mr Suchet, an ITN newsreader and patron of For Dementia, said: “The people that run Southampton Football Club should hang their heads in shame.”

Edited 26 January, 2010 by John B

[doggface]

I have not really given a **** about the spat between cortese & the echo until now. I don't know any of the facts for sure, but having seen certain things I think there is alot of **** stirring going on at the echo IMO.

That said if NC banned the echo from 2 charity events that is dispicable in my opinion.

Nc is an inter fan & set up the waigo deal with fiorentina. I wonder which club has offered him a role? They would have to pay very well I would have thought ; )

[shurlock]

Maybe its fiorentina - the same connection that brought Papa here?

[Toadhall Saint]

Not sure if I like the idea of conflicting business interests.

 

Just wish the spat between the Echo and Saints could be patched up but I'm not holding my breath.

[alpine_saint]

....much like every arrival and every departure at every football club on earth. Never stopped you sticking your oar in though. If you object so vigourously to someone saying 'it would be good if our chief exec didn't leave' maybe football web forums aren't for you.

 

Oh do put a sock in it. I agree with his sentiment, but what I wrote is also correct.

[TNT]

I just found this email thats listed on the Daily Echo site for contact. I am emailing this idiot now to show my disgust using a charity to slag of the club.

 

 

ian.murray@dailyecho.co.uk

[Huntingdon]

Perhaps his family have struggled to settle here

 

Italy is much nearer Switzerland

[alpine_saint]

Perhaps his family have struggled to settle here

 

Italy is much nearer Switzerland

 

And he is Italian-Swiss.

[John B]

I just found this email thats listed on the Daily Echo site for contact. I am emailing this idiot now to show my disgust using a charity to slag of the club.

 

 

ian.murray@dailyecho.co.uk

 

Surely it is David Suchet who is slagging off the club ?

[Wes Tender]

Having read the Echo's version of events regarding this Dementia charity spat, it still comes out as massive sour grapes by the Echo. The club let out a suite for a conference, that is all. The press conference is a separate issue and it is not clear whether or not the matter of whether the Echo could attend was discussed by the charity and the club. What exactly was the importance of the press conference having to actually take place in that suite at the stadium? Don't the charity have the ability to issue press releases to the media?

 

If the Echo feel so upset about it all, then Murray needs to realise that if normal service is to be resumed, for the benefit of the paper, then he will have to climb down off his high horse and mend bridges with Cortese. The club have several other media outlets for their stories, but it is in the interests of the local rag to have decent access to the inner circle at the club. All Murray is doing by printing this spite and bile, is to further alienate the club from the paper. There can only be one loser out of all this and it isn't Cortese.

[TNT]

Surely it is David Suchet who is slagging off the club ?

 

Nope its the Echo orchestrating the whole thing. They know they are not welcome at SMS. All they had to do was make alternative arrangements for quotes etc. They just engineered this story to slag off Saints and have a pop at their justified ban.

[krissyboy31]

Surely it is David Suchet who is slagging off the club ?

 

Maybe but it's possible for the "interviewer" to slant questions to Mr. Suchet to get the answers they are looking for and twist it to sound like direct quotes. (Not saying that's what happened because I wasn't there, but possible).

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Nope its the Echo orchestrating the whole thing. They know they are not welcome at SMS. All they had to do was make alternative arrangements for quotes etc. They just engineered this story to slag off Saints and have a pop at their justified ban.

 

Agree with this, Suchet would not be aware of the background, by default our dispute has now given him more exposure than perhaps it would have ordinarily.

[Scudamore]

Surely it is David Suchet who is slagging off the club ?

 

What has Poirot got to do with this?

[alpine_saint]

Nope its the Echo orchestrating the whole thing. They know they are not welcome at SMS. All they had to do was make alternative arrangements for quotes etc. They just engineered this story to slag off Saints and have a pop at their justified ban.

 

Yep. Murray and the Echo ambushed the club.

[Block 5]

Is our last boycott of the Echo over?

 

If it is, then surely another one is long overdue.

 

BOYCOTT THE ECHO!

[TNT]

Is our last boycott of the Echo over?

 

If it is, then surely another one is long overdue.

 

BOYCOTT THE ECHO!

 

 

Someone start up a facebook group along the lines that a boycott should happen until Ian Murray resigns.

[shurlock]

No reason why he can't be involved in both clubs, especially if he appoints somebody trusted to hold the fort on the day to day basis. No reason why it can't be a good thing - we've had feeder teams/twinning partnerships before.

[hypochondriac]

Do the daily echo want saints to succeed or do they just care about sales? That charity article is pathetic. I hope they go bust quite frankly

[Wes Tender]

Agree with this, Suchet would not be aware of the background, by default our dispute has now given him more exposure than perhaps it would have ordinarily.

 

Yep. Really amazingly ironic that had the event gone through the normal media channels, nobody would have heard much about it at all. Now the Echo can plaster it all over their front pages, other media will take up the story to defend the stance taken by their colleagues in the press and before you know it, there is massive media exposure for the charity.

 

Pretty damned clever, Suchet.

 

But the Echo will have succeeded in having the gulf between them and the club widen from a crack into a chasm. Childish idiots.

[Winchester Red]

Firstly, as good as NC is, this proposal will still be about the Italians trying to get investment from ML

 

Secondly, if you look back at the original quotes from NC, he said that ML said he would only buy SFC if NC would fulfil this role.

 

This type of person does not walk out on a project (or a promise), but they also don't look at jobs as most people do. This is not primarily about earning money, it's about the challenge. He may well have numerous 'other' projects running simultainiously, but this is his main one and NC will be here until he succeeds - AND HE WILL SUCCEED - people like NC always do.

 

As for The Echo..... absolutely pathetic. They need to grow up and relalise there is a set of rules that they have to comply with, or they risk going the same way as our friends down the road are about to.

[Weston Saint]

I am no supporter of some of the journalism of today. Freedom of the press is fine but sometimes they use that unwisely.

 

I am not a supporter of Mr Murray and I am sure Mr Cortese is doing a good job at SFC BUT why is he (Cortese) not sorting out this spat.

 

Why will he not speak to Murray. It takes two to negotiate and end to this silly issue. If one party refuses to meet the other how can it be resolved?

 

The Echo will lose many friends over their obvious digs at Cortese but if he wont speak to them, how else will this be sorted. Saints need the Echo as much as the Echo needs Saints.

 

SORT IT OUT

[Matthew Le God]

I am no supporter of some of the journalism of today. Freedom of the press is fine but sometimes they use that unwisely.

 

I am not a supporter of Mr Murray and I am sure Mr Cortese is doing a good job at SFC BUT why is he (Cortese) not sorting out this spat.

 

Why will he not speak to Murray. It takes two to negotiate and end to this silly issue. If one party refuses to meet the other how can it be resolved?

 

The Echo will lose many friends over their obvious digs at Cortese but if he wont speak to them, how else will this be sorted. Saints need the Echo as much as the Echo needs Saints.

 

SORT IT OUT

 

How do you know they haven't been speaking?

 

In fact how do you know anything about what happened?

 

You don't!

[wild-saint]

I cant say Im suprised, I posted on here a couple of months back that I had heard that NC's wife wasnt happy in southampton. Maybe she is pulling the strings and NC will be hen pecked into making a move.

[Um Bongo]

The Echo knew they were banned from St Marys. This is a non story. Maybe they should be the one's saying sorry to the charity event.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Can we get this thread back on track? I cant be the only one who is seriously worried about this Italian approach.

 

Did anyone hear the Solent interview?

[Rogerfryisalegend]

not happy if true.