Saints vs Pompey!! - Reaction Thread

[Saint_clark]

Anyone got a recorded clip of the draw yesterday? I'd quite like to relive it

 

It's on the ITV website. It was f*cking tense, that's for sure, but you just KNEW as the draw went on what was gonna happen.

[krissyboy31]

Anyone got a recorded clip of the draw yesterday? I'd quite like to relive it

 

It's on ITV Player. St Landrew put up the link earlier in the thread.

 

Here's the whole thing again, just to spin out the tension: 5th Round Draw

[Saints11]

ITV

 

Stoke City's reward for their FA Cup fourth round victory over Arsenal is an equally tricky tie with Manchester City.

 

Stoke will travel to Eastlands for the match against City, who are unbeaten in cup ties so far this season.

 

Meanwhile, cup holders and favourites for this year's tournament, Chelsea, received a relatively kind draw. They will take on 2008 finalists Cardiff at Stamford Bridge.

 

South Coast football fans will be looking forward to a derby between arch rivals Southampton and Portsmouth, while Aston Villa face a trip to Wolves or Crystal Palace

 

BBC

 

Cardiff take on Chelsea in FA Cup

 

Holders Chelsea will go up against Championship side Cardiff at Stamford Bridge in the FA Cup fifth round.

 

There are potentially four all-Premier League ties with Manchester City's game against Stoke already confirmed.

 

Wolves or Crystal Palace will take on Aston Villa, Bolton are at home to Tottenham or Leeds and Fulham will welcome Notts County or Wigan.

 

In another eye-catching tie Portsmouth face South Coast rivals Southampton, with all games on the 13/14 February.

 

Surely our draw should be the lead sentence and theme of the articles?!

[VectisSaint]

Any chance the Mods can make this a non-sticky. Need to have threads about important issues as stickies, at least for the next 2 weeks until this game is imminent. Brentford, Stockport and so on are far more critical to our season than some grudge game against the local retards.

[Saint_clark]

Any chance the Mods can make this a non-sticky. Need to have threads about important issues as stickies, at least for the next 2 weeks until this game is imminent. Brentford, Stockport and so on are far more critical to our season than some grudge game against the local retards.

 

I don't agree with most of your post, but this thread WOULD stay near the top anyway so might as well unsticky it.

[Whitey Grandad]

I dont dispute what you are saying but surely half a million is better than nothing for the Revenue

They are not preferential creditors so they join the queue with all the others.

[Bad Wolf]

Just watched the whole thing again. It's even tense rewatching it despite knowing what's going to happen

[derry]

The problem Pompey have is that all football debts have to be settled. If they don't get a CVA and satisfy the football debts never mind the fact the HMRC don't do deals they are in big football trouble with points deductions, licences etc.

[farawaysaint]

So we have to play them with our understrength cup tied squad? That doesn't fill me with any real confidence but who could help but be excited?

[VectisSaint]

I don't agree with most of your post, but this thread WOULD stay near the top anyway so might as well unsticky it.

What don't you agree with? Do you honestly think an FA Cup game in 3 weeks time is the most important part of our season? Seriously hope that our players are not taking the same attitiude as some of our supporters and keeping their eye firmly on what is important, 6 points from our next 2 matches. We are not going to win the Cup, and a game against Pompey is the last thing we need right now, not least because quite honestly the chances are that they will turn us over, Premier League v D3. Of course I hope we beat them, but a lot of crowing about this right now could be a ****ing disaster if we were to lose, and even worse if we lose focus.

[suewhistle]

LETTTSSSS GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMBLEEEE!

who's heading for a night out in southampton after we win? lol

 

Can't make Southampton, I'm afraid (I've already checked the cost of flights!) so I'll be out in my little city. I'm not particularly girly (footie player and all...) but I'm not the type to wear my Saints shirt other than to training. If we win though, I'd make a rare exception and even go down the English style pub to see if any of the skiing holidaymakers are Pompey fans. (That's extremely unlikely...).

 

I notice in The Guardian the following:

 

"though the tie of the round is arguably the south coast derby between Southampton and Portsmouth at St Mary's Stadium."

 

No arguably about it mush!

[dellboypete]

Can't make Southampton, I'm afraid (I've already checked the cost of flights!) so I'll be out in my little city. I'm not particularly girly (footie player and all...) but I'm not the type to wear my Saints shirt other than to training. If we win though, I'd make a rare exception and even go down the English style pub to see if any of the skiing holidaymakers are Pompey fans. (That's extremely unlikely...).

 

I notice in The Guardian the following:

 

"though the tie of the round is arguably the south coast derby between Southampton and Portsmouth at St Mary's Stadium."

 

No arguably about it mush!

 

The best one for me was in the times this morning..........

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article7000871.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=4031667

 

the best bit being the first para....

 

Portsmouth may have believed that their season could get no worse, but it could if they lose to Southampton, their bitter South Coast rivals, in the FA Cup fifth round at St Mary’s Stadium next month.

[Gravesend Saint]

Made me laugh from Robbo Robson on the Beeb site:

 

Still it's a wonderful thing for all that... How else would we have Southampton hosting Pompey? (Unless they had a Mutual Loathing Testimonial for old 'Arry of course!) That'll be a nice friendly local knees-up, won't it? It'll make City-United at Eastlands look like a bit of a fracas at the local bridge club.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/2010/01/beauty_v_the_beast.html

[.comsaint]

One good point of note: both Kaboul & Belhadj will be sold this week to balance the books!

 

[docker-p]

What don't you agree with? Do you honestly think an FA Cup game in 3 weeks time is the most important part of our season?

 

Ummm. YES.

[Tac-tics]

Guys, just want other people's opinions as I dont know if I am making a tit of myself....

 

Living down this neck of the woods, I am basically the only Saints fan on Hayling Island, I am 19 and have alot of mate's are die hard Pompey, two of them had Dad's in the WI group that is the 6:57 and try to emulate their Dads with clobber and attitude towards Saints, if anyone shops in H in Pompey you may know who I'm on about.

 

anyway, am I wrong to be annoyed at all these people on both sides to be bragging about this match, trying to get involved and get tickets to the game and even get in some fights and they are Spurs fans or Chelsea fans???

 

I'm getting so annoyed as they dont understand the raw emotion on the day, even those who keep a calm head before the game feel raw on the day.

 

So should I stop squinying or not?

[Saint_clark]

I don't think people outside the two clubs realise just how passionate the rivalry is. Thankfully we can show them with the Valentines Day Massacre.

[RedAndWhite91]

Guys, just want other people's opinions as I dont know if I am making a tit of myself....

 

Living down this neck of the woods, I am basically the only Saints fan on Hayling Island, I am 19 and have alot of mate's are die hard Pompey, two of them had Dad's in the WI group that is the 6:57 and try to emulate their Dads with clobber and attitude towards Saints, if anyone shops in H in Pompey you may know who I'm on about.

 

anyway, am I wrong to be annoyed at all these people on both sides to be bragging about this match, trying to get involved and get tickets to the game and even get in some fights and they are Spurs fans or Chelsea fans???

 

I'm getting so annoyed as they dont understand the raw emotion on the day, even those who keep a calm head before the game feel raw on the day.

 

So should I stop squinying or not?

 

I dunno mate, joining that pro-Pompey group on facebook doesn't do you any favours

 

But no, you're not wrong to be annoyed. I know a Man United fan who immediately asked me where he could get tickets for the game, despite not ever going to a Saints game before. "Oh it's more fierce than Inter v AC Milan" he said. Yes. I know. I'm a Saints fan. No one can emulate the same passion that Saints fans will show that day, so having JCL's in the stands will no way help the atmosphere. If they want to watch a derby, then why not go to United v City, or West Ham v Millwall.

 

IMO they can all **** off. Let's have it Saints v Pompey, not Saints (and assorted other fans who are there for the novelty) v Pompey.

[Tac-tics]

Starting to get really annoyed with this now, facebook status?

 

"bring on the scum, what a day out" - from a chelsea fan ha

[Tac-tics]

I dunno mate, joining that pro-Pompey group on facebook doesn't do you any favours

 

 

I NEEDED TO HURL ABUSE AT SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THAT WALL!!! haha

[Tac-tics]

Sam

well im sorry to hear how bitter you are over it mate but at the end of the day ur just a supporter not a governor. like i said just because i haven't done as much as you to do with football does not mean i have no right being there. anyone is allowed to go im pretty sure st marys got enough empty seats lmao

 

he wrote this, then went off-line

[RedAndWhite91]

I NEEDED TO HURL ABUSE AT SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THAT WALL!!! haha

 

Sure, sure...

 

Sam

well im sorry to hear how bitter you are over it mate but at the end of the day ur just a supporter not a governor. like i said just because i haven't done as much as you to do with football does not mean i have no right being there. anyone is allowed to go im pretty sure st marys got enough empty seats lmao

 

he wrote this, then went off-line

 

I clicked the link, I see he joined "Portsmouth vs Southampton Who's up to give a beating to the Scum."

[Tac-tics]

Sure, sure...

 

 

 

I clicked the link, I see he joined "Portsmouth vs Southampton Who's up to give a beating to the Scum."

 

I am glad you pointed that out!!

 

Get on fb chat wanna ask you something.

[Saint_clark]

What a tosspot that Sam Brown is.

I bet he wouldn't be mouthing off whilst sat amongst Saints fans on valentines weekend.

You need to choose your friends more carefully Tac-tics

[Tac-tics]

he's a chelsea fan too ha

[Tac-tics]

He apologised... nun night L's & G's

[EFM]

Despite the strange Vectis Saint and St Landrew saying we are jumping on a bandwagon (?) the ball out from Mrs Moore was the most ecstatic moment for years. Nothing could be better than this tie.

 

I would walk the 90 miles, steal a ticket from a skate and sit next to Mr Incontinent Westwood to watch this. Actually I hope it doesn't come to that really.

 

This is the greatest we could ever have hoped for and I did indeed jump around the room for quite a long time before falling on the floor making bowing down hand gestures to a higher being I have never believed in before.

 

It now becomes clear the the lawd smiles on us and vomits on P'mouth.

 

I've rarely used this phrase before but BRING IT ON, you blue f'ing losers and visit the Joiners again if you think you're anything anymore. I want to see PFC die and disappear at SMS.

 

A wall of noise and as many ****s taking banners as possible. Even if we lose it willl hurt but we will have a fxxk of a laugh at them.

 

This is bigger than anything this season. I was over excited at getting to the JPT final but it is almost nothing compared to this.

 

COYR

[Wes Tender]

Living down this neck of the woods, I am basically the only Saints fan on Hayling Island, I am 19 and have alot of mate's are die hard Pompey, two of them had Dad's in the WI group that is the 6:57 and try to emulate their Dads with clobber and attitude towards Saints, if anyone shops in H in Pompey you may know who I'm on about.

 

Blimey! That's a rarity. A couple of diehard Skate fans who actually know who their father is.

[jeff leopard]

What don't you agree with? Do you honestly think an FA Cup game in 3 weeks time is the most important part of our season? Seriously hope that our players are not taking the same attitiude as some of our supporters and keeping their eye firmly on what is important, 6 points from our next 2 matches. We are not going to win the Cup, and a game against Pompey is the last thing we need right now, not least because quite honestly the chances are that they will turn us over, Premier League v D3. Of course I hope we beat them, but a lot of crowing about this right now could be a ****ing disaster if we were to lose, and even worse if we lose focus.

 

I completely agree with you, this is a massive distraction to our season. I posted before how beating us (which 9 times out of 10 they will do) would do them a lot of good and potentially turn their whole season around, and this is because of fan-power. Their club is in tatters at the moment and the only thing that will really save it is their fans (and a few million quid of course). Beating us would increase interest in the club and raise the numbers through the doors on match days for a few games at least. If they back it up with good results in the league they’ll be out of trouble before you know it. And yes, if we win it will hurt them, but it won’t relegate them or kill them off financially.

 

Saints fans are focusing far too much into this game, if we win, well good for us but it won’t change anything that matters (the league and the paint trophy). As VectisSaint says, the players will feel the pressure, and if we lose it could have a negative effect on the rest of the season. And anyway, we played them twice in the FA cup in the last ten years or so, so it’s not as big a deal as it was when we got drawn against them back in 1996 (now that was f**king exciting).

[saintwarwick]

I completely agree with you, this is a massive distraction to our season. I posted before how beating us (which 9 times out of 10 they will do) would do them a lot of good and potentially turn their whole season around, and this is because of fan-power. Their club is in tatters at the moment and the only thing that will really save it is their fans (and a few million quid of course). Beating us would increase interest in the club and raise the numbers through the doors on match days for a few games at least. If they back it up with good results in the league they’ll be out of trouble before you know it. And yes, if we win it will hurt them, but it won’t relegate them or kill them off financially.

 

Saints fans are focusing far too much into this game, if we win, well good for us but it won’t change anything that matters (the league and the paint trophy). As VectisSaint says, the players will feel the pressure, and if we lose it could have a negative effect on the rest of the season. And anyway, we played them twice in the FA cup in the last ten years or so, so it’s not as big a deal as it was when we got drawn against them back in 1996 (now that was f**king exciting).

 

Well their fans didn't make too much effort at the weekend what with the ground only half full, best fans in the country, you couldn't make it up. Any draw against our arch enemies is a big deal no matter when we play them as most on here have agreed, if you think not then you are in a minority, just look at the amount of groups going around on facebook about this tie, it means a lot to a lot of fans and it won't have any effect on our season at all whether we win or not. Most of the players will not understand the passion the fans have over this game and will treat it as another cup game which is winnable, us fans will see it differently. Also our cup tie a few years ago was as equally good as 1996, every game is exciting against them, I can't wait for the game.

[jawillwill]

I've just been watching the tennis between Murray and Nadal, and they had a little break in the middle to watch some fireworks for Australia day. It got me thinking. Saints v Pompey will almost certainly be on Valentines day, so perhaps we should do soething similar to mark the occasion. Mid-way through the first half (if theres a stoppage for a goal kick or throw in or something) we could have someone like Elton John come on and sing some sort love sonnet and have

do some flower arranging at the same time.

I think it'd be a great advert to the footballing world, especially if we're on national television as expected, that no matter how fierce the rivalry between our 2 clubs is, nothing can override the love and compassion we have for our fellow men (well in Pancake's case anyway), women and footballing family in general.

[Window Cleaner]

L]

I think it'd be a great advert to the footballing world,

 

 

You are joking right?? Football is a man's game played by men for men.

We don't need dancing girls or breaks in play on Valentine's day to nip out to buy a bunch of daffs in case the wife didn't see eye to eye with us about going to the game.

[Deanovski]

was meant to be going to see my gf on the 13th but she dumped me,hurts like **** but POMPEYY!!!!

[Saint_clark]

was meant to be going to see my gf on the 13th but she dumped me,hurts like **** but POMPEYY!!!!

 

Sorry, but

[Window Cleaner]

Sorry, but

 

you'd make a great agony aunt St clark

[Wes Tender]

I completely agree with you, this is a massive distraction to our season. I posted before how beating us (which 9 times out of 10 they will do) would do them a lot of good and potentially turn their whole season around, and this is because of fan-power. Their club is in tatters at the moment and the only thing that will really save it is their fans (and a few million quid of course). Beating us would increase interest in the club and raise the numbers through the doors on match days for a few games at least. If they back it up with good results in the league they’ll be out of trouble before you know it. And yes, if we win it will hurt them, but it won’t relegate them or kill them off financially.

 

Saints fans are focusing far too much into this game, if we win, well good for us but it won’t change anything that matters (the league and the paint trophy). As VectisSaint says, the players will feel the pressure, and if we lose it could have a negative effect on the rest of the season. And anyway, we played them twice in the FA cup in the last ten years or so, so it’s not as big a deal as it was when we got drawn against them back in 1996 (now that was f**king exciting).

 

Fine to agree with Vectis that this tie is a distraction to our team and that there needs to be some perspective maintained about the importance of remaining focussed on the primary objectives which are to try and finish in a play-off position if possible, then try and win the JPT Cup.

 

But nowhere did Vectis say that in his opinion the players would lose focus if we lost and that it could have a detrimental effect on the remainder of our season. That is the spin that you have mistakenly put on it yourself. I wonder whether you might be the Echo reporter who spun the shrill headline that Pardew had stated that the match against the Skates was make or break for our season, when he had said no such thing.

 

You have made this assertion earlier already and I have responded to it, dismissing it as bunk and giving reasons for my opinion. If you wish to support your stance, perhaps you might like to justify your reasons for believing that by virtue of them beating us, their entire season might be turned around. We can dismiss it as not being too much of a shock as they are two divisions above us. If they beat us, they might gloat, but it will be a rather hollow victory and they will mostly be more concerned with whether they will remain in business as a club. Their position is a damned site more precarious than can be turned around by beating us and getting a few good results in the Premiership. Even if they filled Krap Nottarf every week, the additional income is a drop in the ocean compared to the sea of debt that they have.

[Griffo]

was meant to be going to see my gf on the 13th but she dumped me,hurts like **** but POMPEYY!!!!

 

She lives in America doesn't she?

[Deanovski]

She lives in America doesn't she?

 

yup stupid b*tch, every cloud has a silver lining

[eelpie]

Fine to agree with Vectis that this tie is a distraction to our team and that there needs to be some perspective maintained about the importance of remaining focussed on the primary objectives which are to try and finish in a play-off position if possible, then try and win the JPT Cup.

 

But nowhere did Vectis say that in his opinion the players would lose focus if we lost and that it could have a detrimental effect on the remainder of our season. That is the spin that you have mistakenly put on it yourself. I wonder whether you might be the Echo reporter who spun the shrill headline that Pardew had stated that the match against the Skates was make or break for our season, when he had said no such thing.

 

You have made this assertion earlier already and I have responded to it, dismissing it as bunk and giving reasons for my opinion. If you wish to support your stance, perhaps you might like to justify your reasons for believing that by virtue of them beating us, their entire season might be turned around. We can dismiss it as not being too much of a shock as they are two divisions above us. If they beat us, they might gloat, but it will be a rather hollow victory and they will mostly be more concerned with whether they will remain in business as a club. Their position is a damned site more precarious than can be turned around by beating us and getting a few good results in the Premiership. Even if they filled Krap Nottarf every week, the additional income is a drop in the ocean compared to the sea of debt that they have.

 

WE must NEVER forget our prime and number one objective:

 

1. To SURVIVE in League 1!!!

(We are actually not many points above the relegation zone at this moment in time, so a win at Brentford (or at least a draw) is paramount. )

 

2. A mid-table position.

 

3. Play-off place

 

Next imo:

 

4. JPT final (I would rather lose against a Premiership club even if it is Skates than miss out on a Wembley final, and the Dons match comes first anyway)

 

5. Beat Pompey

 

6. Round 6 FA Cup.

 

7. Win JPT

 

Does anyone disagree?

 

Tonight, COYR!

[jeff leopard]

Fine to agree with Vectis that this tie is a distraction to our team and that there needs to be some perspective maintained about the importance of remaining focussed on the primary objectives which are to try and finish in a play-off position if possible, then try and win the JPT Cup.

 

But nowhere did Vectis say that in his opinion the players would lose focus if we lost and that it could have a detrimental effect on the remainder of our season. That is the spin that you have mistakenly put on it yourself. I wonder whether you might be the Echo reporter who spun the shrill headline that Pardew had stated that the match against the Skates was make or break for our season, when he had said no such thing.

 

:D:D:D:D

 

a hilarious swing and a miss

 

Actually, I’ve been called many things but an Echo journalist really takes the biscuit.

 

You have made this assertion earlier already and I have responded to it, dismissing it as bunk and giving reasons for my opinion. If you wish to support your stance, perhaps you might like to justify your reasons for believing that by virtue of them beating us, their entire season might be turned around. We can dismiss it as not being too much of a shock as they are two divisions above us. If they beat us, they might gloat, but it will be a rather hollow victory and they will mostly be more concerned with whether they will remain in business as a club. Their position is a damned site more precarious than can be turned around by beating us and getting a few good results in the Premiership. Even if they filled Krap Nottarf every week, the additional income is a drop in the ocean compared to the sea of debt that they have.

 

In the long-run, and in my opinon, the skates winning a cup game against a quality top flight side would feel pretty hollow, when what they really need (apart from cash) is league points. Like it or not, premiership survival is still easily within their reach, and as long as they stay up its unlikely they’ll be allowed to go out of business.

 

I agree that, with the squad they currently have, a win against Saints wouldn’t mean a great deal to the players. But whether they manage to avoid relegation depends on whether they can find the will to keep on giving a club that’s treated them so badly the 110% needed from here on in. When I talk about full house I’m not referring to money, but to the kind of home support that small ramshackle grounds can give, when filled to the rafters. At this moment of do or die for poopey, a win against Saints would be a huge shot in the arm for the fans. And much as we love to hate them, their fans have it in them to get their team to safety. At the moment they’re angry and probably spend way too much time fighting amongst themselves (remember how that felt?). A win against us would unite them like nothing else on earth. That's my point, and that's why this draw isn't great news for the club.

[Whitey Grandad]

It's a great draw for us if we win it. It would be disappointing if we lost, but not the end of the world and we would still have what's left of the gate receipts. But what if we drew? Does anyone fancy a Tuesday night at FP? Plus Wycombe away would have to be re-arranged.

[saintwarwick]

:D:D:D:D

 

a hilarious swing and a miss

 

Actually, I’ve been called many things but an Echo journalist really takes the biscuit.

 

 

 

In the long-run, and in my opinon, the skates winning a cup game against a quality top flight side would feel pretty hollow, when what they really need (apart from cash) is league points. Like it or not, premiership survival is still easily within their reach, and as long as they stay up its unlikely they’ll be allowed to go out of business.

 

I agree that, with the squad they currently have, a win against Saints wouldn’t mean a great deal to the players. But whether they manage to avoid relegation depends on whether they can find the will to keep on giving a club that’s treated them so badly the 110% needed from here on in. When I talk about full house I’m not referring to money, but to the kind of home support that small ramshackle grounds can give, when filled to the rafters. At this moment of do or die for poopey, a win against Saints would be a huge shot in the arm for the fans. And much as we love to hate them, their fans have it in them to get their team to safety. At the moment they’re angry and probably spend way too much time fighting amongst themselves (remember how that felt?). A win against us would unite them like nothing else on earth. That's my point, and that's why this draw isn't great news for the club.

 

Thats a load of crap, one win against us ain't going to improve their attendances, they couldn't manage it against Sunderland in the last round and will only get more for league games due to season ticket sales, they still can't sell out for premier games. To suggest they will turn the corner with one win over a third division club is really a joke.

[Wes Tender]

Thats a load of crap, one win against us ain't going to improve their attendances, they couldn't manage it against Sunderland in the last round and will only get more for league games due to season ticket sales, they still can't sell out for premier games. To suggest they will turn the corner with one win over a third division club is really a joke.

 

I agree totally. Winning against us is hardly going to be a greater incentive for their fans to go to see any more Premiership matches, even if they start winning a few, as they can't fill the stadium as it is and us having twice as many to the last round's Cup match was an embarassment to them. They couldn't argue that their stadium was not big enough and that they filled it, it was half empty.

 

And it's ridiculous to think that beating us would bring unity to them, any more than it would unify us beating them if this match was played when the Lowe / Quisling regime was still in charge. The disunity in their ranks is caused for similar reasons to our disunity; there is massive uncertainty and worry caused by too many managers and too many owners in the past year or two and the distinct possibility that their club could cease to exist.

 

Eeelpie:

 

No, I don't disagree with your summary of the order of importance of forthcoming events. But I have absolute confidence that by the end of the season we will be be either in the play-offs, or pretty close, rather than just avoiding the drop.