MKD support

[JRM]

You are the moron. I would have enjoyed my day out much more had they helped create a good atmosphere. Instead they stood silent for 70 minutes, and then tried to have a fight with the stewards at full time. Morons, the lot of them.

 

Edit: This post aimed at JRM.

 

 

I always have a good laugh at the concerned "oh dear oh dear aren't our fans terrible, what is the world coming to, ban the lot of them" comments.

 

I agree, the atmosphere should have been better.

 

But I also cannot see why you get wound up so much.

[Barfy]

I know a few season ticket holders for Franchise FC and they are always going on about what great support they get at home games, and how they'll easily fill up more of the stadium as it gets built :smt081

[Son of Bob]

I always have a good laugh at the concerned "oh dear oh dear aren't our fans terrible, what is the world coming to, ban the lot of them" comments.

 

I agree, the atmosphere should have been better.

 

But I also cannot see why you get wound up so much.

 

I suppose you think it's OK for them to start on their fellow fans as well?

[RedFear]

the fact that any 'grown' men would run onto the pitch because we had one a first leg johnstons paint trophy area final is frankly embarrassing

 

but then we had the same after managing a draw at leyton orient so hardly surprising

 

as for the ones throwing punches at the stewards. that was pathetic

[bungle]

I always have a good laugh at the concerned "oh dear oh dear aren't our fans terrible, what is the world coming to, ban the lot of them" comments.

 

I agree, the atmosphere should have been better.

 

But I also cannot see why you get wound up so much.

 

Because all of this leads to things that impact on us all. For example the police presence and actions at Millwall on Saturday.

 

It will lead to away allocations being cut when clubs and police say our fans cause issues.

 

I am all for a loud, laddy, atmosphere. I would love a bit more aggression in our support. I want some real songs with more than 2 words. But why they have to try and charge on the pitch and every opportunity is beyond me.

[JRM]

Because all of this leads to things that impact on us all. For example the police presence and actions at Millwall on Saturday.

 

It will lead to away allocations being cut when clubs and police say our fans cause issues.

 

I am all for a loud, laddy, atmosphere. I would love a bit more aggression in our support. I want some real songs with more than 2 words. But why they have to try and charge on the pitch and every opportunity is beyond me.

 

 

I agree with majority of what you say above. although i wouldnt worry too much about allocations being cut, and as for millwall they do that for most teams, i drank in london all day, travelled to the ground and back into town afterwards, only time i was affected was held in after the game for 10 mins.

 

running onto the pitch is fun though, i've penciled in MK Dons at home for the 2nd leg and Southend at home to celebrate our mid-table finish, must remember to wear appropriate footwear to those games

[jjsaint]

Pitch invasions are pants IMO. End of. On the other hand, those fans were more pacey and skilful than the MK Dons side.

[tonibell]

Was that Bungle who had his top off??

 

All cause by THAT KID (again) fair play to the fat b-stard at the end. How many kilos is he.... Needs a Bra for those Man Boobs

[bungle]

I agree with majority of what you say above. although i wouldnt worry too much about allocations being cut, and as for millwall they do that for most teams, i drank in london all day, travelled to the ground and back into town afterwards, only time i was affected was held in after the game for 10 mins.

 

running onto the pitch is fun though, i've penciled in MK Dons at home for the 2nd leg and Southend at home to celebrate our mid-table finish, must remember to wear appropriate footwear to those games

 

I wasn't caught in it either (by virtue of not coming from Soton), but I've been to Millwall before and never experienced anything like what happened at Waterloo on Saturday.

 

Pitch invasions are pretty crap anyway, but they are even more crap when you are doing it for no reason.

[Sour Mash]

I've never been so disgusted with a clubs supporters. We thought they had made a mistake and told their fans the wrong kick off time. They don't deserve to have a nice stadium like that. We did well and sung loudly most of the night but it's hard to get a decent atmosphere going when only the away support is singing.

 

Such a shame. Could have been a great night but it was ruined by their plastic stay-aways.[/QUOTE]

 

Please tell me you're joking?

[hypochondriac]

When we had the pitch invasion against Sheffield United it was deserved and quite a nice shared experience. It was also special because it's something that does not often happen. If people are going to do it almost ever other week (for beating MK Dons FFS!) then that makes it totally ghey and I'm embarrassed for some of our fans.

[Legod Third Coming]

Because all of this leads to things that impact on us all. For example the police presence and actions at Millwall on Saturday.

 

It will lead to away allocations being cut when clubs and police say our fans cause issues.

 

I am all for a loud, laddy, atmosphere. I would love a bit more aggression in our support. I want some real songs with more than 2 words. But why they have to try and charge on the pitch and every opportunity is beyond me.

 

Hear, Hear.

[Wes Tender]

running onto the pitch is fun though,

 

You're obviously so easy to please. Little things please little minds.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Who was the shirtless six fingered banjo player running around like silverback?

 

I believe this is the same fatty who started the facebook group about running on to the pitch at a Pompey game.

[forever a red and white]

you can see the same thing happening on 9th if we reach the final.

 

But for the first leg why run on the pitch?

 

One kid got hauled off by two stewards, and a bloke came down and started having a go at them and shoving them for their actions. What are they suppossed to do let him run. Got no sympathy for those who feel they are harshly treated for runnning on the pitch, there were plenty of police fimling and taking pictures as well, si wasn't exactly clever was it.

[View From The Top]

The Hants and also the Beds OB, were watching intently with both video cameras and stills cameras.

 

They were paying special attention to the kn*b who took a swing at the steward.

 

Daft thing to do in a world cup year when banning orders will be dished out like free tickets at pompey.

[The Saturday Boy]

When we had the pitch invasion against Sheffield United it was deserved and quite a nice shared experience. It was also special because it's something that does not often happen. If people are going to do it almost ever other week (for beating MK Dons FFS!) then that makes it totally ghey and I'm embarrassed for some of our fans.

 

Yep, it seems invading the pitch is the new wear a jester hat and face paint, as it appears to be mainly enjoyed by kids and people who think it's 'funny'.

[maxi_sopez]

i was near the front and all the people running on where 7 and 8 year olds who were standing in the front row the whole game, chatting, looking round and not watching the game....the stewards spoke to them after the goal when one of them ran on and said they shouldnt do it again, instead they called him barack obama...( tbf he did look like him).

But i agree totally embarassing scenes and most of are fans were booing them, and i agree the more this happens the more likely the league will come down on us hard. But im less concerned about the punishments it just embarassing to watch...

[StuRomseySaint]

If the kids want a bit of a laugh then fair play to them... no harm done.

 

Some of you need to get a life.

[Born In The 80s]

When we had the pitch invasion against Sheffield United it was deserved and quite a nice shared experience. It was also special because it's something that does not often happen.

 

 

Are you taking the ****? That was the most cringworthy pitch invasion i've ever seen from Southampton supporters in all the time i've been following the club and going regularly (20 odd years). In no way was it special. It was just a completely over the top reaction to a jammy win at the end of what was a hopeless season.

 

Regarding last nights pitch invasion, i thought it was laughable (and very embarrassing). It seems clear that it is the same bunch of kids that try and run on all the time. After the first time they did it at Northampton i thought it was cute and just a couple of little kids "living their dreams". But the same ****gy-haired kid has run on several times now and something needs to be said to him. Just a quiet word in the ear by a steward at the next home game letting him know that if he runs on again he will be banned for year or so should do the trick. Scare him into not doing it. Or better still, try and get hold of his parents. Either way, as cute and funny as it appears, we already know what a tosser that Lord Mawhinney is and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to see him dishing out warnings and fines for this kind of 'crowd trouble'. Therefore, it's our responsibility to not give him the chance to fine us and something does need to be done about it.

 

As for the adults down the front fighting with the stewards, oh dear...

[Torres]

If the kids want a bit of a laugh then fair play to them... no harm done.

 

But it's not a case of "no harm done", is it? There potential consequences of this idiocy that could impact on us all.

[Synergy]

A question I asked after the Norwich game and last night; where are the parents of those little kids who ran on the pitch? It makes you wonder if they actually encouage them to do it because once again they got away with it and actually got players shirts. Next time this happens they and their moronic parents need to be thrown out the ground and banned for a suitible length of time so they actually learn that just because you are a kid it don't mean that the stadium rules don't apply to you.

[View From The Top]

A question I asked after the Norwich game and last night; where are the parents of those little kids who ran on the pitch?

 

The father encourages it.

[St Marco]

If that kid runs on the pitch again on saturday he should get banned. If a adult did that he would be bunged out. Does not set a good example to just encourage it. I am all for passion, and it is good their are some youngsters still around who survived the **** that happened on Lowes return etc.. But as others have mentioned it can have bad effects on those who go to away games. Nobody wants to have to wait hours and hours in a ****hole like MK Dons just because of some kid.

[Son of Bob]

I've never been so disgusted with a clubs supporters. We thought they had made a mistake and told their fans the wrong kick off time. They don't deserve to have a nice stadium like that. We did well and sung loudly most of the night but it's hard to get a decent atmosphere going when only the away support is singing.

 

Such a shame. Could have been a great night but it was ruined by their plastic stay-aways.[/QUOTE]

 

Please tell me you're joking?

 

Sorry I'm not quite sure what your point is here as you haven't used the quote system properly? What are you trying to say?

 

Are you saying the night wasn't ruined by the MK stay-aways? If you are how can you say that the pathetic turn out by their fans had no detrimental effect on the atmosphere. Their stands were 80% empty FFS!

[RedAndWhite91]

Those calling for a banning order for the kid, the club don't see it that way, he was our mascot at Millwall.

[The9]

OK mate, carry on making things up in your mind if it helps you with your "disgust" .

 

Southend's biggest game for potential trouble was Colchester - played on a saturday.

They have played 6 games on Friday this year against teams such as MK Dons, Gillingham and Orient.

 

Obviously in this case a pitch invasion would have been better in the 2ng leg, like Villa's last night.

 

Nothing made up, all provable evidence.

 

And what does it tell you when Southend don't move that but DO move us ? Nice half use of story btw, unlucky for you I checked. They moved Leeds, Millwall, Saints, Charlton and Leyton Orient, and the Colchester match was a 1pm kick off on Boxing Day. So we're in the same category as two clubs with a violent history and 4 local rivals where the likelihood of violence is greater.

 

EDIT : here's the link, with "all matches moved on Police Advice" on Southend's official website http://www.southendunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10444~1703328,00.html

 

Villa's pitch invasion was totally free of malice, and the Blackburn fans were in the top tier of a stand, and under no threat. There is some difference between that and mongish pitch invasions for 1) no good reason and 2) where public order offences are a significant likelihood.

 

Last season's pathetic Burnley pitch invasion with malice will be exactly what most of last night's invaders have in mind if they get the excuse to do it again in February, yet when they brought out the dogs last time you could hear the Northam yobs whining from the Itchen Bridge.

 

You keep on apologising for it if you like, but it's exactly that kind of childish neanderthal crap that makes it so much like hard work for the rest of us to enjoy ourselves at matches without being herded, penned or subjected to abuse as a result of previous confrontations.

Edited 21 January, 2010 by The9
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[Scummer]

Those calling for a banning order for the kid, the club don't see it that way, he was our mascot at Millwall.

 

That's hilarious if it's true.

[stevegrant]

Those calling for a banning order for the kid, the club don't see it that way, he was our mascot at Millwall.

Please tell me that's a joke...

[RedAndWhite91]

I'm not joking.

[The9]

Even if he was mascot, that doesn't mean the club knows he's the kid that keeps running on the bloody pitch, does it ?

[St Marco]

Even if he was mascot, that doesn't mean the club knows he's the kid that keeps running on the bloody pitch, does it ?

 

Well if it is the same kid he always has like a black leather jacket on?

[Andy_Porter]

Is he the same kid that lumped a policewoman at Blackpool?

 

Him and his Dad should just get banned if he runs on the pitch again, it's just embarassing.

[Guan 2.0]

Because all of this leads to things that impact on us all. For example the police presence and actions at Millwall on Saturday.

 

It will lead to away allocations being cut when clubs and police say our fans cause issues.

 

I am all for a loud, laddy, atmosphere. I would love a bit more aggression in our support. I want some real songs with more than 2 words. But why they have to try and charge on the pitch and every opportunity is beyond me.

 

+1. Running on the pitch is f'kin pointless, the fact that kids are the ones most up for it says it all. Probably the same people who like encourage/enjoy it are the ones that think raising and stretching your arms during the 500th rendition of 'stand up if you hate pompey' proves something to the Skates. Threaten to Ban the kid(s) and or the parents (if they actually attend the games and don't use SMS as a drop off crèche) for a year next time they do it, quiet word in the ear job should sort it.

[JRM]

 

Sorry I'm not quite sure what your point is here as you haven't used the quote system properly? What are you trying to say?

 

Are you saying the night wasn't ruined by the MK stay-aways? If you are how can you say that the pathetic turn out by their fans had no detrimental effect on the atmosphere. Their stands were 80% empty FFS!

 

 

I think he was saying they don't have the fans in the first place to be plastic stayaways.

It is MK Dons who were only formed a few years ago. They haven't built up a base of fans who can stay away, they weren't there in the first place

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Even if he was mascot, that doesn't mean the club knows he's the kid that keeps running on the bloody pitch, does it ?

 

Doesn't everybody already know this?

[krissyboy31]

About time they started doing what they do in Australia for sporting events. £2k on the spot fine for pitch encroachment. Stop it dead!

[JRM]

About time they started doing what they do in Australia for sporting events. £2k on the spot fine for pitch encroachment. Stop it dead!

 

 

to be fair it has worked in the cricket, shame though, I used to love day 5 of a test, England win by taking a wicket and a mad dash to get a stump.

also watch any big series in England during the 70s + 80s and almost every boundary at Lords was greated by a few fans having a run around, especially remember one video of a west indian fan with a afro rolling onto the pitch in celebration.

[brianoneils slidingtackle]

elf and safety gone mad, bring back compulsory pitch invasions...we had one against Bristol Rovers in the 70's once that backfired a bit :-(

[Sour Mash]

 

Sorry I'm not quite sure what your point is here as you haven't used the quote system properly? What are you trying to say?

 

Are you saying the night wasn't ruined by the MK stay-aways? If you are how can you say that the pathetic turn out by their fans had no detrimental effect on the atmosphere. Their stands were 80% empty FFS!

 

You're not sure what my point is? Well I'll tell you. a) What exactly were you expecting from MK DONS ? I am amazed that they actually get the support they do, they are a franchise football club moved to a new town only a couple of years ago, of course they're not going to have a large passionate support.

 

b) Your night was ruined by the lack of home support? Yes, the lack of home support didn't help the atmosphere and I would have rather there was a big crowd, but I find it weird to say the least that a Saints fan at a game where his team had a great away win, taking them very close to a Wembley appearance had his "night ruined" by the lack of opposing fans!!

[Son of Bob]

 

You're not sure what my point is? Well I'll tell you. a) What exactly were you expecting from MK DONS ? I am amazed that they actually get the support they do, they are a franchise football club moved to a new town only a couple of years ago, of course they're not going to have a large passionate support.

 

b) Your night was ruined by the lack of home support? Yes, the lack of home support didn't help the atmosphere and I would have rather there was a big crowd, but I find it weird to say the least that a Saints fan at a game where his team had a great away win, taking them very close to a Wembley appearance had his "night ruined" by the lack of opposing fans!!

 

Oh, come on. 3,500 fans.... at home.... for what is effectively a semi-final game with a spot at Wembley at stake. It's a disgrace. They have averaged over 10,000 this season and managed 16,000 for a league game so there's no excuse and yes, it did vastly reduce the enjoyment factor. The last semi I attended would not have been quite the same if the stands of Villa park were virtually empty would it?

 

If I just wanted to 'watch' the game I'd have stayed at home and put Sky on. It was a cup semi-final and their fans produced all the atmosphere of an autopsy.

 

If atmosphere is not an important factor for you when attending matches (especially away games) then we have very different expectations of the live game. If you go to matches just to observe the players activities on the pitch then I'm afraid to say you're really missing out on something.

[Sour Mash]

Oh, come on. 3,500 fans.... at home.... for what is effectively a semi-final game with a spot at Wembley at stake. It's a disgrace. They have averaged over 10,000 this season and managed 16,000 for a league game so there's no excuse and yes, it did vastly reduce the enjoyment factor. The last semi I attended would not have been quite the same if the stands of Villa park were virtually empty would it?

 

If I just wanted to 'watch' the game I'd have stayed at home and put Sky on. It was a cup semi-final and their fans produced all the atmosphere of an autopsy.

 

If atmosphere is not an important factor for you when attending matches (especially away games) then we have very different expectations of the live game. If you go to matches just to observe the players activities on the pitch then I'm afraid to say you're really missing out on something.

 

No, as I said in my post, I'd rather there was decent home support and a better atmosphere from them, just think its bonkers that it can ruin your night, especially at somewhere like MK Dons. Had a top day/night out on the beer with my mates, watch Saints get a step closer to a Wembley final, but actually come to think of it my evening was ruined by the lack of MK Dons fans in attendance.........

[JRM]

Oh, come on. 3,500 fans.... at home.... for what is effectively a semi-final game with a spot at Wembley at stake. It's a disgrace. They have averaged over 10,000 this season and managed 16,000 for a league game so there's no excuse and yes, it did vastly reduce the enjoyment factor. The last semi I attended would not have been quite the same if the stands of Villa park were virtually empty would it?

 

If I just wanted to 'watch' the game I'd have stayed at home and put Sky on. It was a cup semi-final and their fans produced all the atmosphere of an autopsy.

 

If atmosphere is not an important factor for you when attending matches (especially away games) then we have very different expectations of the live game. If you go to matches just to observe the players activities on the pitch then I'm afraid to say you're really missing out on something.

 

you are still missing the point.

MK DONs did not exist until a few years ago.

they do NOT have a fanbase.

They give away loads of tickets to businesses and schools to try to boast interest in the town.

even if there were a couple more thousand there last night the atmosphere would not have been any louder.

Last night was exactly what I expected from MK Dons. They are recently created Franchise football club, therefore lacking in any soul / passionate support.

[Thedelldays]

why is it, nearly every time we play away against a league 1 team people moan about the other teams attendance..

 

has the penny not dropped yet that most teams in this league are poor and have very few fans..?

[Torres]

why is it, nearly every time we play away against a league 1 team people moan about the other teams attendance..

 

has the penny not dropped yet that most teams in this league are poor and have very few fans..?

 

MK Dons have averaged 10203 so far this season and I doubt very many sides have taken 3000 of their own there.

 

Sure, they give away a load of tickets every game but wouldn't you have thought that more of those freeloaders might turn up for a cup (semi)final?

[Thedelldays]

MK Dons have averaged 10203 so far this season and I doubt very many sides have taken 3000 of their own there.

 

Sure, they give away a load of tickets every game but wouldn't you have thought that more of those freeloaders might turn up for a cup (semi)final?

who cares...bit of a ****ing contest really..as long as saints fans turn up and turn up well...who cares..?

[Matthew Le God]

why is it, nearly every time we play away against a league 1 team people moan about the other teams attendance..

 

has the penny not dropped yet that most teams in this league are poor and have very few fans..?

 

Yeah, but only MK Dons and Leeds from League One have got on the England World Cup bid.

 

Leeds of course have a huge fanbase and it is not an issue especially as they move up through the leagues. MK Dons struggle to get 10k, yet may soon have a 40k+ stadium.

[Thedelldays]

Yeah, but only MK Dons and Leeds from League One have got on the England World Cup bid.

 

Leeds of course have a huge fanbase and it is not an issue especially as they move up through the leagues. MK Dons struggle to get 10k, yet may soon have a 40k+ stadium.

the world cup bid is for the whole city...not the stadium..

 

the stadium made up about 1 chapter from about 20 of a city bid

 

 

not too sure that you had to have a full house every week to have the right to host a world cup game..?

[Colinjb]

Yeah, but only MK Dons and Leeds from League One have got on the England World Cup bid.

 

Leeds of course have a huge fanbase and it is not an issue especially as they move up through the leagues. MK Dons struggle to get 10k, yet may soon have a 40k+ stadium.

 

Relax, they are only part of the initial tender. They still may not get to host.

 

At least I hope that sham of a 'club' doesn't.

[Torres]

who cares...bit of a ****ing contest really..as long as saints fans turn up and turn up well...who cares..?

 

Well plenty of people who were at the game last night care. Many people enjoy a game with a decent atmosphere far more than they do when the game is played in a ground that isn't even a third-full.