benjii Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Hands up to a players face - he didn't slap him or punch him, just raised hands. It was in retaliation to nearly getting strangled by their player, make of that what you will. He pushed him hard around the throat/face. Can't be surprised to get a red and I hope we don't appeal as it will probably be increased for wasting their time. That said, I think their player deserved a red too. He grabbed him aggressively round the collar - that is likely to cause a reaction and is violent conduct. The guy who kicked Thomas in the chest with the ball nowhere near also should have got a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Can someone explain what Scheiderlin got sent off for, please ? I missed the game completely. Harsh but he certainly shouldn't be complaining. Pushed a guy in the face after retaliating to his tackle. By the law, that's violent conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 No just understood the rules which unfortunately our players did not Didn't realise hand ball in the area was allowed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Fonte is CLASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Saints fans - legends! Watched very stuttering feed & listened on Saints player & never heard the home fans....congratulations to all there. Team very controlled...aside from the discipline but ....hey...we're on our way to Wembley - I can't worry about that now. The ref was a totally card-happy ****** too & we hopefully won't get another one like him. We're going to Wemb - er - lee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 "Saints defender Morgan Schneiderlin" FFS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 who will play CM for saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Worth appealing ? No IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 FFS: Player has gone! ...move back home? ... :confused: Too far to commute! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 there was only one side in it for the majority but we still made it hard work for ourselves. Can't wait for the second leg. 90 mins from a trip to Wembley,bloody lovely that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 No just understood the rules which unfortunately our players did not As per previous thread - were you actually watching the game? No way a sending off. Had he smacked him the face, yes, but that wasn't what happened... Next you're going to tell me that a player patting an opposition on the head after a challenge should be sent off too. We should appeal the sending off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorch Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Red card was harsh but reasonable too. The only two decisions he got wrong all night was the handball that he missed (although it seemed everyone missed it other than the commentator) and that "foul" against Antonio for going into the corner flag (with thanks to the linesman) I'm a ref, and I thought he controlled the game quite well - it could have got nasty. You were watching a different game to me then. Ref shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Can someone explain what Scheiderlin got sent off for, please ? I missed the game completely. MS went in slightly late on Gleeson, not a huge amount of contact in the challenge but Gleeson got up and grabbed MS round the throat, MS got sent off while I think Gleeson got off scott free (although he did get booked, not sure if it was in connection with that though because the graphic came up a few minutes later). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Nice one! Good result - finish job at SMS and while the JPT is a pants/pointless cup we can still have a day out at Wembley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 MS went in slightly late on Gleeson, not a huge amount of contact in the challenge but Gleeson got up and grabbed MS round the throat, MS got sent off while I think Gleeson got off scott free (although he did get booked, not sure if it was in connection with that though because the graphic came up a few minutes later). Funny how the ref only ever notices our players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Worth appealing ? Maybe, not sure we'll get much success though, based on the fact that his hands were raised. surley they should have a look at the mkdons players reaction in the first place though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 OK Fonte is new but the rest of the back line were all second choice players. Good performance at the back. We really need to look at midfield now. Hammond is out, Schneiderlin suspended and it wasn't all that good before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Worth appealing ? No. To the letter of the law it is definitely a red. A soft shove and it would never pass the Yoof initiation ceremony, but a red card in a game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 As per previous thread - were you actually watching the game? No way a sending off. Had he smacked him the face, yes, but that wasn't what happened... Next you're going to tell me that a player patting an opposition on the head after a challenge should be sent off too. We should appeal the sending off. Absoluely not. He pushed him, reasonably firmly in the face/neck. That's a red card. End of. If we appeal we will probably see it increased. He's become quite dirty and petulant recently anyway; about time he was taught a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 The ref let their no 9 get away with murder, hopelessly out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Watched the game on Sky, we realy need to kill the game off, our midfield was frustrating. MOM - Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great tempo, great support. Ref was useless. If he's 'Playing by the rules' why was that **** in the first not sent off for coming right through the back of Schniedern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Worth appealing ? Dont think its worth the risk Alpine, Just disappointing that he got a red but Gleeson who had him around the throat just got a yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 So standing in the corner with the ball is a foul? Handling the ball in box isn't a penalty. Ref was a prize c.u.n.t hahahahahah.........exactly what we were all thinking and quite creatively put, to get past the swear filter.......beats all that * stuff every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Chill out people. Sending off was probably right, their player should have gone as well. We've won 1-0 and are at home. 90 mins from Wembley. BELIEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great win I know some fans hate him, but Lloyd James was excellent - a really important player for us Isn't there a law that dictates this .............Averages! Great win..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 ref and lino were blatantly biased and how wotton is a pro footballer is lost on me!! team dug in well, mk were never in it. Fonte was colossal at back, antonio mom, thomas had solid game and James, credit to him and not biggest fan but.... played well. Well played Saints! COYR............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great result for an away tie, should have had a penalty though. Antonio did well with a very positive style. Fonte is a rock at the back and Kelvin kept us ahead towards the end. My only concern is Rickie Lambert who seems to have gone off the boil recently, he hardly got a look in tonight. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 The worst, most inconsistent refereeing performance I have seen since the days of Uriah Rennie. Awful. Superb from Saints though, last season we would of crumbled and conceded one or even two in the last 10 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Dont think its worth the risk Alpine, Just disappointing that he got a red but Gleeson who had him around the throat just got a yellow A good barrage of abuse all evening for him in the return leg then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 So whats he meant to do if a player has his hands round his throat??? ref was a budgie but despite that we hung on, up the saints. I agree it is not fair but you are not allowed to push someone in the face it is an automatic red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Their a proper Paul Ince team. Crafty, niggly, dirty and sly. Well drilled they may be but horrible and frustrating to watch they are. Only concern is not many teams get 3 or 4 wins over the same team in a season. And we've got the biggest two fixtures to come vs that bunch of c**ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Thought Lambert had a good game. Closing down the Dons defenders, winning headers and generally putting pressure on the Dons back line into making a few mistakes. Does need the midfield to catch up with him a little quicker though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 The referee as has already metioned was clueless but the linesman in the second half was equally bad. When Antonio had the ball by the corner flag. he was being fouled repeatdly by two defenders, guess which way the foul went. even the commentators made comments he got it wrong. We should have subbed Antonio for Papa at about 7o minutes. it would have took the sting out of the dons attack and pushed them back into a defensive mode. As for you avenue. I thought wotton had an excellent game. he may not be the classiest of midfielders but he does get stuck in and closes down their attack very quickly. I see a similarity toi Brian O'Neil but then your probably far to young to remember him. Still they need to score twice to reach Wembly some how I can not see that happening. Also come the 9th of Feb we will have a new midfielder on our books, lets hope he isnt cup tied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 They didn't show the pitch invasion by Saints fans on Sky then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Need midfield cover now, I believe we've been linked with a few? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 I agree it is not fair but you are not allowed to push someone in the face it is an automatic red Sorry but the ref should have used his common sense. He only got pushed in the face cos he was practically on his knees trying to rip Morgans shirt off. Morgans hands weren't especially raised. And if he's playing the letter of the law the fella the went through Morgan in the first half that led the the Davis and James bookings, should have been sent off. Tackle through the back, straight red. Them's is the rules but he used his discretion on that one and that could have done some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Thought Lambert had a good game. Closing down the Dons defenders, winning headers and generally putting pressure on the Dons back line into making a few mistakes. Does need the midfield to catch up with him a little quicker though. agree with that, credit to him with the assist for the goal too. generally had the beating of the CB's all night, but we didn't have the movement around him for him to get openings himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblyone Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great win I know some fans hate him, but Lloyd James was excellent - a really important player for us Agreed , he had an excellent game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Almost got cheated out of that. Agree with the red for Morgan but I thought the MK Dons player deserved a red too. Morgan goes over there to see if he is ok and the MK Dons player hits out at him. Not sure how we never got a peno - Referee was without doubt the MOTM for the home side. Good goal from Antonio, could have done better a couple of times when running off the wing but he does look very good when he plays against MK Dons. I would have played Papa a bit, considering its because of him that we've got this far. Half time now, I suspect we will have a big home crowd for the next leg. Around 24,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnboro Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Delighted with the result! Not surprised they came back into it in the second half when you reflect on the effort and general domination we had in the first. I was watching this one on sky but have to say a massive congrats to our fans once again. Just like the Millwall match, amazing support...to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas_saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Saints 90 minutes from Wembley. British Airways sending me emails announcing fare sales to London. I love it when a plan comes together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great result should have hammered them,why oh why cant Saints finish so many chances but i thought we'd lose tonight so delighted with the result.The officials were awful,the MK Dons support was awful and as ever the Saints support was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Loved the harassing and closing down for 90 minutes...yet dangerous going forward. Need to play like that away every week and we'll do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Red Army or is that Yellow Army !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Brilliant. It may have only been a one goal victory, but it's more than I hoped for and we fully deserved it. There were some standout performances for me, and these are all IMO, but it was the players that we sometimes under appreciate that did the best job. Davis: Did everything that was asked of him, made a few good saves. Didn't need to get involved with the fracas just before half time. Was lucky when their shot hit the post. 7 Thomas: I thought he was very solid. Made a good few runs forward and rarely let the side down. 7 Fonte: Very, very good, first time I've seen him, brings a calm to the defence. Should've scored in the first minute, got a head to nearly everything. 8 Perry: Marshalled the offside trap well. 7 Mills: Who says we need a new left back back-up! Thought he was very good, going forwards and at the back. 8 James: Great shot near the end, deserved a goal. Lost his cool at one point, but the key to the win was the midfield shielding the defence. 7 Wotton: As with James, the midfield defended well. Saints didn't let the Dons play, and Wotton was there with the challenges when they were needed. Not brilliant, but in the circumstances did the job. 6 Morgan: The sending off marred an otherwise impressive performance. His passing was good, this was the best I've seen him play, and I'm one of his biggest critics. Still looks like Bambi when he gets close to the box.n Lost a point for rash-headedness. 7 Lallana: Tricks weren't coming off, he should have scored when he scuffed the shot, you can see he is on the same wavelength as Lambert but this wasn't his night. Still think he looks lost out wide. 5 Antonio: MOTM for me. Worked his nut sack off all game, as you could see with the cramp at the end. His passing was excellent, his goal superb. Never stopped running, and was defending as well as he was attacking. A real thorn in MK Dons side. 9 Lambert: Won the headers that he needed to win, hustled the defence. Still wish he'd shoot sometimes instead of laying it off. 7 Subs: Holmes: Didn't really get much of a look in. Booking was silly. 5 Waigo: Brought on too late for an impact, except the clearance with his first touch. Pardew: I quite like the 4-3-3/4-5-2 formation. He'll have a mission with Hammond and Schneiderlin out. Glad he played Antonio in the end, and I bet he is too! 7 REF: Enjoyed waving the cards around, was playing things by the book. We should've had a penalty though for blatent handball. 6 We should have scored more, but for poor finishing from Lallana and Morgan, and we should have had a penalty, but I think every Saints fan would've been happy with that scoreline before the game. Now we have three weeks to get the FA to change the rules to allow away goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Almost got cheated out of that. Agree with the red for Morgan but I thought the MK Dons player deserved a red too. Morgan goes over there to see if he is ok and the MK Dons player hits out at him. Not sure how we never got a peno - Referee was without doubt the MOTM for the home side. Good goal from Antonio, could have done better a couple of times when running off the wing but he does look very good when he plays against MK Dons. I would have played Papa a bit, considering its because of him that we've got this far. Half time now, I suspect we will have a big home crowd for the next leg. Around 24,000. I think it will be closer to 30,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionhotel Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Antonio motm. Too many high balls. Saints fans superb!!! Should've been more than 1-0 but who cares? We've got the moo-cows beat....again! Should have been a penalty and MS was treated very harshly. Referee was a complete T.W.A.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Well that should have been so much easier, but made to be difficult by a complete tool of a ref. That was quite possibly the worst group of officials I've ever seen. Good result in the end, just need to start the same way at home & finish the job off. COYR Should have turned over to watch Spuds and Scousers then!!! But on a lighter note, bossed 80% of that game, denied a stone-waller and held on for a bloody good result. Just a shame we didn't score a couple - we bloody deserved too! COYR Bring them home and smash them to smitherines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 The referee as has already metioned was clueless but the linesman in the second half was equally bad. When Antonio had the ball by the corner flag. he was being fouled repeatdly by two defenders, guess which way the foul went. even the commentators made comments he got it wrong. We should have subbed Antonio for Papa at about 7o minutes. it would have took the sting out of the dons attack and pushed them back into a defensive mode. As for you avenue. I thought wotton had an excellent game. he may not be the classiest of midfielders but he does get stuck in and closes down their attack very quickly. I see a similarity toi Brian O'Neil but then your probably far to young to remember him. Still they need to score twice to reach Wembly some how I can not see that happening. Also come the 9th of Feb we will have a new midfielder on our books, lets hope he isnt cup tied wont fault him for effort but, u can coach anyone to close down, not wanting to come down too harsh on the man BUT, he cant pass, cant tackle, cant run.. We need better to get balance of midfield right.. Up against better sides we struggle in the middle, today playing the 5 was factor in stopping them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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