Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Who said SCC never did bugger all apart from put up traffic lights on roundabouts!(okay it was me!) http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4861734.Free_slippers_for_elderly_city_residents/?ref=twt Who dreamt this up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Worst. Council. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Sounds like a good idea to me. Old people falling over costs the NHS a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 “sloppy slippers”, fnar fnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great idea! My mother had a horrible fall because her slippers weren't suitable. She didn't know that and we didn't realise. She could afford a sensible and safe pair of slippers - not all pensioners can. The NHS tries very hard to reduce the number of falls suffered by elderly people. Apart from the fact that the treatment costs, the number of beds blocked is substantial. Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Sounds like a good idea to me. Old people falling over costs the NHS a fortune. So should the NHS fund this rather than council no matter how little 86x£3? I dispute the 20k figure anyway - a new hip privately is 10k including consultation with top specialist, MRI, X-ray, Operation and recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Great idea! My mother had a horrible fall because her slippers weren't suitable. She didn't know that and we didn't realise. She could afford a sensible and safe pair of slippers - not all pensioners can. The NHS tries very hard to reduce the number of falls suffered by elderly people. Apart from the fact that the treatment costs, the number of beds blocked is substantial. Good idea. Just for interest there is a scheme running that allows NHS patients to be treated at private hospitals which free up loads of NHS beds. All it takes is a referral from the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Ron, accidently clicked on your name rather than the post. I am not stalking. I need a new job, your in IT. Hook me up. Oh, and slippers? WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Ron, accidently clicked on your name rather than the post. I am not stalking. I need a new job, your in IT. Hook me up. Oh, and slippers? WTF Sorry mate - only if you can work in Bangalore...because thats where 70% is going! Mine looks dodgy as well. Get yourself security cleared will help massively they can't offshore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 noticed lots of security cleared jobs kicking around....will look into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 So should the NHS fund this rather than council no matter how little 86x£3? I dispute the 20k figure anyway - a new hip privately is 10k including consultation with top specialist, MRI, X-ray, Operation and recovery. Part of the NHS budget has been devolved to Social Services for the joined up elderly care service. It means that ALL aspects of elderly care can be dealt with by one team. It's part of the drive to devolve community care to the community and free up the NHS for more acute care. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Just for interest there is a scheme running that allows NHS patients to be treated at private hospitals which free up loads of NHS beds. All it takes is a referral from the doctor. Not for elderly care which is the biggest drain on NHS resources. Treatments at private hospitals are elective procedures generally requiring a day / overnight stay at the most. Generally, private hospitals are not equipped for geriatric care (probably because insurances don't cover a lot of geriatric care and because it's not cost effective for them). Elderly patients block beds because a lot of effort has to go into finding nursing homes / care at home for them after falls. This can take a time as there's a shortage of suitable nursing homes providing nursing care as opposed to straightforward residential care homes. I know this as this is currently happening to an elderly relative of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 Not for elderly care which is the biggest drain on NHS resources. Treatments at private hospitals are elective procedures generally requiring a day / overnight stay at the most. Generally, private hospitals are not equipped for geriatric care (probably because insurances don't cover a lot of geriatric care and because it's not cost effective for them). Elderly patients block beds because a lot of effort has to go into finding nursing homes / care at home for them after falls. This can take a time as there's a shortage of suitable nursing homes providing nursing care as opposed to straightforward residential care homes. I know this as this is currently happening to an elderly relative of mine. I am not disputing what you say but my mum is 71 and just had a hip operation on the Choose and Book scheme at a private hospital via NHS was an inpatient for 4 days. The hospital does have quite a bit of experience in geriatric care though as they cover New Milton (Gods waiting room). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 I am not disputing what you say but my mum is 71 and just had a hip operation on the Choose and Book scheme at a private hospital via NHS was an inpatient for 4 days. The hospital does have quite a bit of experience in geriatric care though as they cover New Milton (Gods waiting room). I hope your mum has a speedy recovery Ron. But an elective hip operation is not the same as a fall and the knock on effects. Falls can be caused by a number of things - stroke, infection, poor sight, poor footware. It is important for the whole NHS / social services to kick in to find the cause and the solution. Private hospitals tend only to deal with the routine procedures (such as hip / knee replacements) - not the whole picture. That's what blocks the beds. Generally, when an elderly person has a fall, the process is 1) treat the patient 2) establish cause 3) arrange ongoing care (whether this is in a community hospital in what are called 'step down' beds, a care home or care at home). Private hospitals don't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 I'm all for it. My slippers will need replacing one day so now I know where to go. Incidentally, why are they called 'slippers' if they stop you falling over. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2010 I hope your mum has a speedy recovery Ron. But an elective hip operation is not the same as a fall and the knock on effects. Falls can be caused by a number of things - stroke, infection, poor sight, poor footware. It is important for the whole NHS / social services to kick in to find the cause and the solution. Private hospitals tend only to deal with the routine procedures (such as hip / knee replacements) - not the whole picture. That's what blocks the beds. Generally, when an elderly person has a fall, the process is 1) treat the patient 2) establish cause 3) arrange ongoing care (whether this is in a community hospital in what are called 'step down' beds, a care home or care at home). Private hospitals don't do this. I wouldn't say elective as she had no choice but to have the replacement - thanks for the good wishes. Totally agree with second bit as went through that whole process with MIL on the Island now there is a place that has fantastic elderley care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 January, 2010 Share Posted 20 January, 2010 I wouldn't say elective as she had no choice but to have the replacement - thanks for the good wishes. Totally agree with second bit as went through that whole process with MIL on the Island now there is a place that has fantastic elderley care. 'Elective' means planned as opposed to emergency i.e. unplanned (because of an accident etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 21 January, 2010 Share Posted 21 January, 2010 I'd rather my local council was giving slippers to the elderly than privatising everything in sight and closing dementia homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 January, 2010 Share Posted 21 January, 2010 Rather slippers for the elderly than free stuff for the underclasses any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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