SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Waigo seems to be preferred in the JPT games, so I'm expecting him to start. I wouldn't be suprised to see Holmes keep his place either, so that's the wings sorted. James, Morgan and Adam in midfield if Connolly isn't fit, Perry in for Seaborne, Thomas in for Semi.
John B Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Carlisle Leading Leeds 2 1 with a few minutes to go
Deppo Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think we'll be up against it tomorrow. 2-1 to them.
Dog Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think we'll be up against it tomorrow. 2-1 to them. Idiot
Minsk Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think the line-up will be: -----------------Kelvin--------------- Thomas----Fonte-------Perry----Harding (Mills if still ill) -----------------Wotton-------------- ---------James-------------Morgan---- Waigo--------------------------Holmes ---------------Rickie---------------- Subs: Bart, Gobern, Antonio, Lallana, Connolly As it's a first leg, away from home, I will be more than happy with my predicted 1-1 draw (I think AP would be happy with this too, hence the expected 4-5-1 formation).
Saint Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Great news about Leeds losing. Little confidence boost i think. Looking forward to the game tomorrow night, even thought it's only on TV.
marc_saint Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I'm just praying Darren Powell is fit. Isnt he on loan somewhere? Forest Green Rovers?
jawillwill Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Anybody got any good chants for MK? MK Dons, MK Dons, Kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut MK Dons, MK Dons Kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut You fat bast@rds
vince Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Might be worth putting the KO time (19:00) in the thread title, as I'm sure a few people won't realise it's an early one. I'll take a score draw right now, ta.
Nexstar Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Do away goals count double? Can't find it anywhere.
Jimmy_D Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Hm We need to be careful, Leeds losing will probably give MK Dons more belief than it does us, we'll need to be on top of our game to get a result. Still, our away fans are a real credit to us, we'll be ok I reckon.
Minsk Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Do away goals count double? Can't find it anywhere. I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere today that they do. I can't remember where I read it though.
Gambol2K9 Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Do away goals count double? Can't find it anywhere. Yeah the away goal rule does apply
dannysfc Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Hm We need to be careful, Leeds losing will probably give MK Dons more belief than it does us, we'll need to be on top of our game to get a result. Still, our away fans are a real credit to us, we'll be ok I reckon. Yeh Good point there Jimmy_D Mate as I was also thinking that as Yes it is a Good result that Leeds lost the first leg to Carlisle but it would be interesting to see which team will want it more tomorrow as if we get at least a draw tomorrow then we should go on and win and get to Wembley where as if we lose our concentration then we will struggle to get to Wembley but we will see ! COYR!
saints_is_the_south Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Got a bad feeling about tomorrow's game. Certainly if we play like we did on Saturday then we are going to get beat, 3-1 to them me thinks but a 2-0 win at SMS to send us through on away goals. My team would be... --------------------Davis------------------- Thomas-----Fonte----------Perry-----Harding ------James--------Wotton-----Morgan------ Waigo---------------------------------Lallana --------------------Lambert----------------- Subs: Bart, Mills, Holmes, Antonio, Connolly
SaintBobby Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Do away goals count double? Can't find it anywhere. I've never understood why the rule is decribed this way. If away goals count double then Carlisle are 4-1 up...
saints_is_the_south Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I've never understood why the rule is decribed this way. If away goals count double then Carlisle are 4-1 up... +1, pretty stupid way of describing it tbf. I remember at the Steaua Bucharest game I had some idiot sat next to me banging on how their goal was worth double & that they were actually 2 nil up.
oggiee Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Good that Carlisle have won the first leg, but I still am confident that Leeds will go through.
Wycombe Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Taken from the MK Dons Forum "dons 3 southampton 1 9,500 att watch out for thier fans .....a little fiesty to say the least !" Didnt know our fans were that bad!
StD Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 The only time I went to Stadium:MK, the home fans sounded really high pitched (think England U21 game if you've ever been to one) as most of their fans are kids. Looking forward to drowning them out tonight.
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Taken from the MK Dons Forum "dons 3 southampton 1 9,500 att watch out for thier fans .....a little fiesty to say the least !" Didnt know our fans were that bad! bless 'em, they mean loud
damers Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 So cup final morning is here again!!! COYR COYR COYR
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Hopefully Antonio will get a game tonight, he utterly murdered their left back (Lewington) at St Mary's over and over again, just by basic shovelling it up the wing and outpacing him. To be honest we seem to be struggling and also missing a lot of players, so I'd be happy with a draw, just scoring and staying within one goal will probably do. On the subject of away goals, they count, but WHEN do they count ? Assuming there's no extra time in the second leg in line with the rest of the competition, it would have to be at the end of 90 mins, but if there's extra time, it's a Football League competition, and they have those stupid Play-Off rules that did for us at Derby. And anyway, whatever the use of the rule, AWAY GOALS DO NOT COUNT DOUBLE, FFS. Nice to see us pitching up in Wimbledon shirts tonight for added comedy value, too.
Minsk Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I've never understood why the rule is decribed this way. If away goals count double then Carlisle are 4-1 up... It's because most people are simply to lazy to ask the full question: Do away goals count as double IN THE EVENT OF A DRAW OVER THE TWO LEGS? i.e. the team who scores most goals away from home win. Does that make it easier for you to understand?
sambosa75 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 If anyone in London is wondering where to watch this, the Famous 3 Kings pub in West Kensington (right next to the West Ken tube station) always gets a decent crowd and good atmosphere!
Minsk Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Nice to see us pitching up in Wimbledon shirts tonight for added comedy value, too. That is a very good point! P.S. I would imagine the 'away goal rule' would stand as of the end of normal time in the 2nd leg. i.e. We lose 2-1 tonight and win 1-0 after 90 mins at SMS we go through. We lose 2-1 tonight and win 2-1 after 90 mins at SMS, it goes to penalties. The above is just a guess though.
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 It's because most people are simply to lazy to ask the full question: Do away goals count as double IN THE EVENT OF A DRAW OVER THE TWO LEGS? i.e. the team who scores most goals away from home win. Does that make it easier for you to understand? They still don't count as double anyway, it's an even lazier description. They just count "for more". As you can't have a bit of a goal, it's effectively one goal more, so it's only actually "double" if the ties finish 0-0 and 1-1. That should confuse a few people.
SNSUN Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Teamwise, for me it has to be: Davis Thomas Fonte Perry Harding ----------James---------- ----Morgan Lallana------- Antonio-----------Waigo --------Lambert-------- Nice and pacy. We are looking a bit thin though.
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 (edited) Teamwise, for me it has to be: Davis Thomas Fonte Perry Harding ----------James---------- ----Morgan Lallana------- Antonio-----------Waigo --------Lambert-------- Nice and pacy. We are looking a bit thin though. That would be my team too. I don't think I've ever agreed with anyone on a team selection thread before... Incidentally, anyone know if Oscar Gobern played for MK in the JPT when he was on loan ? I am about to Google... Okay, he didn't. Oops, also just noticed you've got Lallana in instead of Wotton... so not the team I'd pick as I'd heard Lallana was injured (though this may be cobblers). Not that it's the team I'd want anyway... Edited 20 January, 2010 by The9 Lallana-ness.
John B Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 That would be my team too. I don't think I've ever agreed with anyone on a team selection thread before... Incidentally, anyone know if Oscar Gobern played for MK in the JPT when he was on loan ? I am about to Google... Okay, he didn't. Wont Holmes play?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I'd like to see: -----------Davis------- Thomas Fonte Perry Harding ----------James---------- ----Morgan Lallana------- Waigo-----------Holmes --------Lambert-------- That is if Lambert, who looked incredibly knackered at Millwall is alright to play, as well as Holmes, if he is fit. Antonio to come on as an impact sub, which I think he has proven is his strongpoint.
Paul Chuckle Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 knowone going with Connolly starting? Id defo start with him and Lambert upfront with Antonio on the right and Lallana on the left.
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 knowone going with Connolly starting? Id defo start with him and Lambert upfront with Antonio on the right and Lallana on the left. I heard he's injured. Holmes I wouldn't pick because Antonio did so much damage against MK last time and Waigo seems to be the man for the JPT and (assuming Connolly and Lallana are injured) we don't have anyone else who can play up front with Lambert if we want to switch from 4-5-1.
Eastcowzer Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Might be worth putting the KO time (19:00) in the thread title, as I'm sure a few people won't realise it's an early one. I'll take a score draw right now, ta. Not complaining, but does anybody know why the game is kicking off at 7 pm. Hope the dreaded TV curse is not turning up tonight.
ladysaint Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Its snowing heavily north of Winchester and the M3 is very busy.
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 (edited) Its snowing heavily north of Winchester and the M3 is very busy. It's all a bit strange, considering it was about 7 degrees in Southampton this morning... and the BBC website says "Max temp 4" !!! ...forecast for noon in MK is "heavy snow", but it's supposed to stop snowing by 3pm. Edited 20 January, 2010 by The9
doddisalegend Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 The JPT is Papa's competition he saved us againt Torquay, he saved us againt Norwhich and I full excepect him to score the winner at Wemberly. Paps's our JPT lucky charm if he gets on the pitch we will win somehow.
Um Bongo Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I hope we are fully up for this. We're not playing well, MK Dons are. They won't be as bad as they were when we beat them earlier in the season. I don't know if Connelly is fit. If he is, play him and go 4-4-2. Davis James Fonte Thomas Harding Waigo Lallana Schniderlin Holmes Lambert Connelly Bart Perry Wotton Antonio Paterson
SaintDonkey Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I hope we are fully up for this. We're not playing well, MK Dons are. They won't be as bad as they were when we beat them earlier in the season. I don't know if Connelly is fit. If he is, play him and go 4-4-2. Davis James Fonte Thomas Harding Waigo Lallana Schniderlin Holmes Lambert Connelly Bart Perry Wotton Antonio Paterson I like the 4-4-2 but a central midfield combination of Lallana and Scheinderlinn would get murdered. I'd go for: ------------Davis Thomas---Fonte--Perry---Harding/(Mills if harding injured) Waigo---James----Schneiderlinn--Holmes ---------Lambert---Connolly Subs: Bart Antonio Lallana (if fit) Gobern Paterson Lancashire (if not cuptied)
jawillwill Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Do we win a trophy if we win the area final?
The Godfather Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Do we win a trophy if we win the area final? No.
ph11be Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 The JPT is Papa's competition he saved us againt Torquay, he saved us againt Norwhich and I full excepect him to score the winner at Wemberly. Paps's our JPT lucky charm if he gets on the pitch we will win somehow. He's the competitions top scorer!!
Dimond Geezer Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 They still don't count as double anyway, it's an even lazier description. They just count "for more". As you can't have a bit of a goal, it's effectively one goal more, so it's only actually "double" if the ties finish 0-0 and 1-1. That should confuse a few people. Correct, here are the rules from 2006/2007, I assume they haven't changed significantly: http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/56/91/0,,10794~37206,00.pdf Clause 14.4 is the relevant one. So no 'double' goals, no extra time but straight to penalties. That should make things exciting.
dubai_phil Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Got a bad feeling about tomorrow's game. Certainly if we play like we did on Saturday then we are going to get beat, 3-1 to them me thinks but a 2-0 win at SMS to send us through on away goals. Glad I'm not the only one with a bad vibe about tonight. I worry we already believe we are through as fans. Fingers crossed
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 (edited) Correct, here are the rules from 2006/2007, I assume they haven't changed significantly: http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/56/91/0,,10794~37206,00.pdf Clause 14.4 is the relevant one. So no 'double' goals, no extra time but straight to penalties. That should make things exciting. My point was actually that there have been no "double" away goals ever in the history of football, and it's a stupid inaccurate phrase that means nothing and is utterly misleading, :smt015 but that's a useful link nevertheless. In the event of scores being level: - 14.4.1 at the end of ninety minutes’ play in all rounds apart from the Final; and 14.4.2 after the conclusion of the two legs in each Area Final, the winner shall be determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark in accordance with the Laws of Association Football. So no away goals rule at all, then ?! Edited 20 January, 2010 by The9
SNSUN Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 That would be my team too. I don't think I've ever agreed with anyone on a team selection thread before.... Having achieved a compliment, I refuse to read the rest of the post! :-D
100%Red&White Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Glad I'm not the only one with a bad vibe about tonight. I worry we already believe we are through as fans. Fingers crossed Hopefully the Leeds v Carlisle tie last night has woken a few up and while Johnstone's Paint are probably praying for a Saints v Leeds final with Wembley bursting at the seams and a wonderful bit of publicity, Carlisle v MK Dons suddenly appears a distinct possibility. Setting off in the next couple of hours - roll your sleeves up Saints and get the job done.
The9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Just for the record, last year's (initial) allocations were 20k for S****horpe and 30k for Luton : http://www.football-league.co.uk/johnstonespainttrophy/news/final-ticket-information-20090224_2246525_1568489 Though as both were achieved without impinging on the other team's potential full allocation there's no guide to whether segregation can be moved. Still getting ahead of ourselves though.
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