hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Yes I did. There is something wrong with your memory, but like you I cannot prove anything. You are the one being slanderous though. Lol. People remember. Slanderous. You are a mental one.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Thank you so much for your well informed and erudite opinion. I guess you did not see the lead up to the goal, if you did you would see Wotton prancing around in the middle of nowhere like a ****ing fairy. What happened afterwards is not the issue, it is the result of Wotton having switched off.Still utter b o l l o x. They had just kicked off. The ball went back to a centre half who lumped it forward - Seaborne and Morison contested a header which flew across the face of the penalty box to Trotter. At no point did the ball go anywhere near Wotton, so how you can blame him for the goal is completely laughable - unless you expect him to be everywhere on the pitch that the ball happens to go to. You could just as easily blame any of the other half a dozen players who were nowhere the the ball at the time. I am no Wotton fan, but this is nonsense.....IMHO.
The9 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 FWIW I think Wotton has looked competent in the role of "the breaking-up play bloke in the middle of the park with fresh legs as a late sub who can't play for 90 minutes any more", and didn't look to be to blame for the Millwall equaliser (though his inability to change direction won't have helped). As we're improving the squad, that role will soon become defunct and he'll be replaced by better players who can do 90 minutes and could be regular starters, but are in poor form/ out of favour. Not sure we need another playbreaker, but we do need to buy another creative midfielder. Hammond's injury is going to leave us with a creativity dilemma, and even he is far from the most creative, but he can see a pass or move it well (a lot better than Wotton, who seems to be his natural replacement without Gillett in the mix).
beancounter saint Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Agree with those who believe there is some sort of Wotton witch hunt. Looked to me as though the new boy Otsemobor was the one who really should have done a lot better on the equaliser.
SamKimish Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 I am yet to see Wotton play more than 10 minutes without tackling rashly with two feet 'studs up'. Almost to the point where the group I sit with play the "Guess how long til Wotton gets booked" game whenever he comes on. Plus he must have the lowest pass completion percentage of the team and he always slows down attacking moves. However, as much as I personally dislike him as a player, no one can argue that he does a good job at providing some much needed defensive support when we are protecting a one goal lead (sometimes not successfully). IMHO, another defensive addition in the Summer to replace the aging Perry and Jaidi and we will not need such a defensive midfielder.
VectisSaint Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Still utter b o l l o x. They had just kicked off. The ball went back to a centre half who lumped it forward - Seaborne and Morison contested a header which flew across the face of the penalty box to Trotter. At no point did the ball go anywhere near Wotton, so how you can blame him for the goal is completely laughable - unless you expect him to be everywhere on the pitch that the ball happens to go to. You could just as easily blame any of the other half a dozen players who were nowhere the the ball at the time. I am no Wotton fan, but this is nonsense.....IMHO. OK, so now I know for sure that you haven't watched the goal. Seaborne headed the ball out to where Wotton should have been, but instead he was wandering around aimlessly, and only when he realised his mistake did he make a half-hearted attempt to make amends. By that time Trotter had taken full advantage racing in to get the ball completely unchallenged. Your reading of the game is laughable. If you think Wotton was blameless for that goal then you have no idea about football. Clueless ****. Perhaps you could attach some blame to Seaborne I would agree, but it he did at least make an initial clearance and should feel agrieved that the most experienced player on the pitch had completely switched off and was not reading what was happening.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 (edited) OK, so now I know for sure that you haven't watched the goal. Seaborne headed the ball out to where Wotton should have been, but instead he was wandering around aimlessly, and only when he realised his mistake did he make a half-hearted attempt to make amends. By that time Trotter had taken full advantage racing in to get the ball completely unchallenged. Your reading of the game is laughable. If you think Wotton was blameless for that goal then you have no idea about football. Clueless ****. Perhaps you could attach some blame to Seaborne I would agree, but it he did at least make an initial clearance and should feel agrieved that the most experienced player on the pitch had completely switched off and was not reading what was happening.Just read the other opinions on here. I think you will find you are in the minority. You have every right to your opinion, just as I have every right to think it is utter b o l l o x. I was at the game - were you? I have seen the goal from two different perspectives.....so to say that Wotton was not standing where the (misdirected) header went and therefore was to blame is the only laughable statement on this little exchange. LMFAO :-D Nobody could possibly read where that header would go. It is not even clear if Morison or Seaborne got to it first - it just skewed off diagonally and, luckily for him, straight to Trotter. If anyone could have done better in this it would be possibly Otsemabor for letting Trotter cut inside him with so much ease. Edited 18 January, 2010 by kpturner Time to spell Morison correctly
The9 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 OK, so now I know for sure that you haven't watched the goal. Seaborne headed the ball out to where Wotton should have been, but instead he was wandering around aimlessly, and only when he realised his mistake did he make a half-hearted attempt to make amends. By that time Trotter had taken full advantage racing in to get the ball completely unchallenged. Your reading of the game is laughable. If you think Wotton was blameless for that goal then you have no idea about football. Clueless ****. Perhaps you could attach some blame to Seaborne I would agree, but it he did at least make an initial clearance and should feel agrieved that the most experienced player on the pitch had completely switched off and was not reading what was happening. I just watched it another 5 times, Seaborne barely beat the Millwall player to the ball, headed it sideways and Wotton was nowhere near it, and nor should anyone have expected him to be.
The9 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 (edited) Plus he must have the lowest pass completion percentage of the team and he always slows down attacking moves. I think he's quite good when he sticks to the sort of 5 yard passes defensive midfielders are meant to make, it's when he decides he's David Beckham and hits anything over 15 yards he's going to screw up (and does). Obviously he's not as mobile as he used to be either, which is only a problem when he needs to make sudden direction changes. Not that the most agile player in the world would have had much chance of reacting to Seaborne's header with the speed and unexpected direction it went. Edited 18 January, 2010 by The9
Viking Warrior Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 I think wotton does a good job in midfield. He is one of those players not gifted with flare but closes down and hassles the opposition. he is a player not too disimilar to Nick holmes, Brian O'neil, Barry Horne et al Now if any of those three were playing in the team today. you can bet your bottom dollar that the negative tribe on here (those that like to single out a player for grief) would also be equally negative about those three. Im pleased with the point at Millwall bit disappointed they let a goal in so soon after scoring . but to be fair i predicted a draw.
Saint_clark Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Posted 18 January, 2010 I think some people like to say he "does a job" just to be seen as taking the moral highground. I am not looking for a scapegoat, I GENUINELY believe he has cost us more this season than he has given us.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 I think some people like to say he "does a job" just to be seen as taking the moral highground. I am not looking for a scapegoat, I GENUINELY believe he has cost us more this season than he has given us.Examples?
NorthamSteve Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 I think some people like to say he "does a job" just to be seen as taking the moral highground. I am not looking for a scapegoat, I GENUINELY believe he has cost us more this season than he has given us. Examples? ???
Saint_clark Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Posted 18 January, 2010 I said I BELIEVE, not that I know for certain
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