Millwall V Saints - Post Match Reaction

[the saint in winchester]

Otsemibor...

 

Aha, thanks dot com, for that and the pics through the match!

[trousers]

In pards defence, havent millwall only lost one home game this season? or did I dream that:confused:

 

Not surprising if the better teams in the league go there to secure a draw. A self fulfilling prophecy perhaps?

[St Marco]

of course not...but like it or not...WE threw away the points...

 

if we were 4-0 with 1 min to go...would you be happy..? seeing as a draw is a good result to you..?

 

If we played great, were 4 nil up and all of a sudden through away those 4 goals to draw i would be ****ed off.

 

But we didn't play great, we wern't 4 nil up, it was a battle of a game and if you said 10mins from the end would you take a draw now i would gladly take it. It is unfortunate to not win the game, 9 times out of 10 if that happened they would not equalize. But a draw away to one of the form teams who have lost just once is not a bad result. If we played ****, lost 4-0 then i could understand some of the views, but that didn't happen.

[Gis]

What are all the comments about putting Connolly on as a sub?.......he wasn't even on the bench was he?...........I presumed he was still injured

[hutch]

C'mon Guys. It happens in football.

 

You have to feel sorry for Coventry (especially their fine upstanding manager). Equaliser against them in injury time on Wednesday. Winner against them in injury time in extra time on Wednesday. And a winner against them in injury time today.

[saintwarwick]

Yawn...:smt015

 

See you don't change with your responses

[Matthew Le God]

What are all the comments about putting Connolly on as a sub?.......he wasn't even on the bench was he?...........I presumed he was still injured

 

He was on the bench.

[Thedelldays]

If we played great, were 4 nil up and all of a sudden through away those 4 goals to draw i would be ****ed off.

 

But we didn't play great, we wern't 4 nil up, it was a battle of a game and if you said 10mins from the end would you take a draw now i would gladly take it. It is unfortunate to not win the game, 9 times out of 10 if that happened they would not equalize. But a draw away to one of the form teams who have lost just once is not a bad result. If we played ****, lost 4-0 then i could understand some of the views, but that didn't happen.

again...but pardew thinks it is 2 points dropped rather than 1 point gained.....that'll do me...

[St Marco]

again...but pardew thinks it is 2 points dropped rather than 1 point gained.....that'll do me...

 

It is 2 points dropped.

 

The players went to sleep and that old saying of your most vunerable after scoring came true once again.

 

But most of those complaining are saying Pardew cost us, didn't bring the right people on etc.. they can't have it both way's. Either the players were to blame for not defending after the re-kick off resulting in their goal, or Pardew was to blame for not bringing on xyz.

 

It was the players fault, but they were fortunate to be in that position in the first place. As i said in my 1st post what cost us today was certain players not performing. It sounded like Morgan did feck all. Pretty difficult to score if your playmaker doesn't set anything up. Which is why i think we badly need cover for Morgan, someone who is proven and can come on for him.

[Saints foreva]

We were very lucky to be in the stage where we could go 1-0 up in the 92nd minute.

 

Millwall should have smashed us. Yet again we were dominated in midfield.

 

We really need a playmaker and a soild CM Pardew! We lacked both those today.

 

Lambert isn't getting enough service lately.

 

Like I said after Colchester - We will NOT make the play offs. Heck with performances like that we could be here for a while with that team.

 

If we play like that against MK Dons we will be in for a hammering.

[InvictaSaint]

I wonder when Godwin's Law will kick in tonight....

[trousers]

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Edited 16 January, 2010 by trousers
Rubbsh post

[trousers]

A little disappointed that the word 'gel' has only been used 4 times thus far in this thread

[captainchris]

I blame the manager completely for today and tbh for the last 2 months. His negative tactics away from home have ruined our season. Connolly and waigo shud have been on far earlier and what is james still doing in the team. Vey dissapointed as we need to win games now and this shows we are simply not good enough to make the play offs. Sorry alan but u got it wrong again and im starting to think we have wrong man.

 

This is so true. What is the obsession about James and the very negative tactics away. Having spent big time on our team why are we afraid of a team of free's. Of course they were going to close us down Alan - what do you expect and what do plan to do about it - play deep and defend inviting pressure. With your spending power and the time you have now had playing and talking with that much respect for Millwall is not a 'winning mentality' !!

[SFC-Barnett]

What a shambolic load of crap that was, what the f*** is wrong with Pardew? What the f*** are substitutes for if you don't use them. Today is a black day and we can kiss the play-offs on the Rrse as we wave 'em bye! bye!

 

And we have to endure this crap for a few more months yet..

 

Is Pardew really committed or has he been tapped up by a few Prem sides. On today's evidence he doesn't seem to give a toss whetehr we lose, draw or win.

 

By this i am guessing you didnt actually go to the game. We used three subs, and one of them almost put us in the lead. We have a poor game and straight away you are slating the manager :confused:

[Mr X]

I feel like ive been rapped. What a joke.

 

MC hammer style?

[Tractor_Saint]

Can only make excuses for so long!

 

Huh? How two faced are you ? Less than 60 seconds before the final whistle you're stating "You beauty!

 

AP got his tactics spot on.

 

So he got all his tactics wrong in the last 30 seconds then?

 

Getting fed up with those 'AP out' comments from everyone. Start of the season we were happy to have a football team and were talking about staying up this season and making promotion next season. Now it's 'AP out'. Happy I'm not sat next to you each game.

[kpturner]

some on here strike me as being the type of parent that has an unhealthy fat child, but is happy because the child seems happy!

w u m

[Thedelldays]

Huh? How two faced are you ? Less than 60 seconds before the final whistle you're stating "You beauty!

 

AP got his tactics spot on.

 

So he got all his tactics wrong in the last 30 seconds then?

 

Getting fed up with those 'AP out' comments from everyone. Start of the season we were happy to have a football team and were talking about staying up this season and making promotion next season. Now it's 'AP out'. Happy I'm not sat next to you each game.

everyone as in EVERYONE..or as in about 3 people...?

[Saint Malc]

I was very worried when the team was announced as it was a bold and brave decision to have three out of four of your defenders playing together for the fist time. *I needn't have worried as they were very solid and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't dominate team selection for a long time to come. *I wasn't sure how their goal came about but if it's a slip up in your first game playing together then I'm not overly worried.

 

The Hammond injury worries me more as he really makes us tick IMO. *I hope it was just a knock and he was taken off as a precaution.

 

The only player who didn't step up to the mark imo today was Lallana but I thought that he was asked to do a more challenging role for the team today so not his fault.

 

According to the stats we had 52% of the possesion and more shots on target. *Not bad for a team playing away at one of the stronger teams in the league.

 

Listening to some fans in the 'cage' after the game you'd have thought that the world is going to end. *I still think we have a chance to make the play-off's but, more importantly, AP is making sure that we hit the ground running next season instead of the nightmare we had this season where we had no pre-season and a ten point deduction (and still look how far we've come, brilliant).

 

Anyway, I'm happy with things tonight even if others aren't.

[RedAndWhite91]

Who was still celebrating our goal when they equalised then?

 

[Tractor_Saint]

Who was still celebrating our goal when they equalised then?

 

 

Sat in traffic near West Quay and was jumping up and down in the car. Thought they had done one of their 'We're going to another match to talk about a goal that just went in without telling you before hand'. Couldn't believe it but couldn't believe we'd scored in the 93rd minute in the first place though

[kpturner]

Who was still celebrating our goal when they equalised then?

 

 

Me - sadly. Laughing my tits off at the yobbos in the stand to the left of us who were going mental before storming out of the exit. I glanced sideways and saw Trotter cut inside (Otsemabor?) and tuck it away. Didn't see any build up. Next thing all the yobbos poured back in and crushed a steward. I did LMFAO even though I was shellshocked.

[Genk]

He was on the bench.

 

Connolly did not take part in the warm-up. He may have been on the bench simply to make up the squad.

[west saint]

as expected the prophets of doom returneth.no we won"t get relegated this is a top six side,without the ten point deduction.yes its unlikely that we wil get promoted this year but we will do next year.so please everyone whose panicking calm down!.

[RedAndWhite91]

Me - sadly. Laughing my tits off at the yobbos in the stand to the left of us who were going mental before storming out of the exit. I glanced sideways and saw Trotter cut inside (Otsemabor?) and tuck it away. Didn't see any build up. Next thing all the yobbos poured back in and crushed a steward. I did LMFAO even though I was shellshocked.

 

Exact same scenario, they all piled back into the stand and down the front. I looked up just as Trotter struck - my mates didn't notice he had scored until the Millwall fans gave back exactly what we had just given them.

 

Did you see the nippers down the front with the luminous gloves- must have only been about 9 or 10 years old, proper giving it some. I reckon they have watched Green Street and decided cos they are Millwall fans they have to act 'ard. Or maybe there's just something in the water up there. Quite funny to watch.

[explorer saint]

Pardew must be well pleased with the result, following our great team building exercise in Spain, it really paid off the players left out must think it was well worth it- me thinks what a waste of time and money this team is not good enough felt that for the last month something has gone missing, why go to spain should of stayed at home and watched loose women

[St Landrew]

Who was still celebrating our goal when they equalised then?

 

 

Nope. I did celebrate for a couple of seconds, but then realised how close we were to the end of the game, so I was thinking, don't go to sleep Saints, there are only seconds left. Just as I was about to type something like that into the 2nd half thread, Millwall scored. So I typed: 1-1 Defence went to sleep. Looking back at the thread I see one or two people we're still typing, get in, goal, 1-0, etc... even after I put 1-1.

 

I can almost begin to forgive the players for taking their eyes off the ball. Almost, but not quite.

[Tom28]

Was at the game. Otsemobor was utter dog****e. He must have been told not to leave his own half because he only broke forward once (although we did nearly score). He was really poor though. Fonte looked dominant and assured. Good signing. Seaborne looked ok on the ball-hit the long ball too much but probably thru lack of options. He was dreadful in the air though and was second best all game long. Holmes took a while to settle but he was class on the ball-like Lallana-and delivered some great crosses. Glad to see him back in there. Missed Hammond when he went off-Wotton was anonymous. Schneiderlin to his credit did his best when effectively on his own. James was abysmal. Slow, and crap. Did nothing. Put him back to right back or get rid. Lambert and Lallana up top worked hard but were pretty isolated and ineffective. Antonio was surprisingly good up top-worth trying up there again.

 

Overall, didn't deserve a draw so will take it. Awful game. Worst I've seen since Burley. Pards had clearly told them to be reserved and protect the new back four. Millwall away is a good point all things considered. Where was Connolly though? He wasn't warming up but was on the bench? Didn't see him. Might have made the difference. Lallana definitely needs to play in midfield.

 

Otsemobor really was gash.

[Genk]

Anyone else at the game today think that Wotton had a good game? As much as he gets stick, he does break the play up well. He may not be the most talented footballer but he does a good job. Also thought's on James at RM? Personally I'm not too sure about this position but he looked handy when he cut inside. Tidy touches and does look for that killer ball instead of passing it back.

[Huffton]

Just got back, won't say any more about the game, but if the bloke who was stood in the far back left corner of the stand slagging off Saints and AP and everything related to Saints for the entire 90 mins uses this message board, mate, go and find another club to support, or even another sport, seriously.

[Gis]

Connolly did not take part in the warm-up. He may have been on the bench simply to make up the squad.

 

Didn't think I saw him warming up at half time..........I don't think I saw him warming up before the start of the match either, but might have missed him.

 

All seems a bit strange to me.

 

Did anyone see Connolly on the bench or is there something going on?:confused:

[surrey1saint]

Who was still celebrating our goal when they equalised then?

 

 

I was

[shurlock]

Anyone else at the game today think that Wotton had a good game? As much as he gets stick, he does break the play up well. He may not be the most talented footballer but he does a good job. Also thought's on James at RM? Personally I'm not too sure about this position but he looked handy when he cut inside. Tidy touches and does look for that killer ball instead of passing it back.

 

We never looked like controlling the middle of the park - Wotton is partially responsible for that. James did what he does at RB - too many chipped balls over the top, too eager to release the ball from deep - i only counted one through ball which required Lambert to bend his run and get beyond the intervening defender and run away from goal. He never had a chance of meeting it. I wouldnt call them killer balls.

[saint1977]

Just back from the game. Fair result in the end but still gutted. Ref was very weak, they were all over lambert all game. First free kick we get and we score. Ostembor doesn't look great but the two at cb were very good. Fonte will be a star. Kd man of the match by far.

 

Good summary but you have to wonder about Pardew, he brings in Fonte who looks superb but I posted about Ostmebor this week - he is a useless c@nt and should not be anywhere near our club. Today is by far the best I have ever seen him play and he was useless, you should have seen him at SMS in November and in the event of anyone slagging me off for saying this watch Norwich V Colchester or Charlton V Norwich (last season) on You Tube. My Norwich mate (delirious after their performance today) texted to say "bet Semi cost you your goal". Lambert practically drove him down here and the scout that recommended him needs sacking.

 

Lucky today to get a point but if we sign more Fonte's and do our homework on not signing Ostembors we'll be ok. Pardew has to deliver next season though although this season was always tough and not fair to judge. If we're not top by October 2010 I think Cortese would act.

[Chez]

what a ****ing terrible game that was. One of the worst games of football I have seen all season, if not THE worst. Head tennis and arial pinball was the order of the day with next to no football played at all and of the two sides we were probably the worst offenders.

 

I thought pardew picked the wrong side completely. With James in midfield we looked far too defensive, and for once we had no penetration or threat out wide. If we are going to play Lallana up front we can't have him chasing aimless balls over the top all day. Its got to be feet and the same applies to Lambert. He had a very poor day in my book but this was not helped by a ref failling to spot the fouling going on, but it was the direct football the was the real problem. The top centre backs in the league eat that **** for breakfast.

 

Davis 9 could do nothing about goal but kept us in it anyway. Decent distribution

Ostemober 7 solid display, but I think it was him that was beaten for the goal

Fonte 9 Terrific debut, won a lot in the air and seemed to always be in the right position. He's the business.

Seaborne 4 Won next to nothing in the air and looked very nervous in posession. Expected better.

Harding 8 Again a very solid display. Battler.

James 6 didn't do too much wrong to be honest and first touch was excellent, but offered little threat

Schneiderlin 6 competed well but didn't control the game. Lacked support. Thought he should have got on the end of one cross but didn't stick his head in where it hurts.

Hammond 5 - was doing fine until injured

Holmes 7 - very good game and that's from someone that does not rate the lad. Touc imaculate and never gave the ball away at all. However he offered very little threat. No pace means its all in front of defenders. Need pace on the other side if he is going to play.

Lambert 4 didn't do anything really. Beaten in the air all day. Worrying as the top sides seem to have his number.

Lallana 6 Busy but not enough service. Looks much better as part of a 4-3-3

 

Wotton 5 not a lot wrong but sits far too deep meanign we don't pick up any second ball.

Antonio 8 his pace and strength created problems immediately. Shoukd have come on earlier

Waigo where was he for their goal? Shoukd have come on much much earlier. Why not play him down the middle and Anotnio down the right and take it to them?

 

Were dissapointed in the way we played. We mus return to the 4-3-3 formation in my book especially when Connelly is not in the side.

Edited 16 January, 2010 by Chez

[saint1977]

Was at the game. Otsemobor was utter dog****e. He must have been told not to leave his own half because he only broke forward once (although we did nearly score). He was really poor though. Fonte looked dominant and assured. Good signing. Seaborne looked ok on the ball-hit the long ball too much but probably thru lack of options. He was dreadful in the air though and was second best all game long. Holmes took a while to settle but he was class on the ball-like Lallana-and delivered some great crosses. Glad to see him back in there. Missed Hammond when he went off-Wotton was anonymous. Schneiderlin to his credit did his best when effectively on his own. James was abysmal. Slow, and crap. Did nothing. Put him back to right back or get rid. Lambert and Lallana up top worked hard but were pretty isolated and ineffective. Antonio was surprisingly good up top-worth trying up there again.

 

Overall, didn't deserve a draw so will take it. Awful game. Worst I've seen since Burley. Pards had clearly told them to be reserved and protect the new back four. Millwall away is a good point all things considered. Where was Connolly though? He wasn't warming up but was on the bench? Didn't see him. Might have made the difference. Lallana definitely needs to play in midfield.

 

Otsemobor really was gash.

 

I support all out other players and don't advocate barracking players at games but you watch, he will be more unpopular on here than Wright, Euell etc put together were. How the man is paid for being a professional footballer is beyond me - ask Norwich fans what they think, he is hated. Hopefully Pardew will see sense, pay him up and sack the scour responsible.

[suewhistle]

Some on here strike me as being the type of parent that has an unhealthy fat child, but is happy because the child seems happy!

 

So you'd rather have an unhappy thin child then?

[shurlock]

Good summary but you have to wonder about Pardew, he brings in Fonte who looks superb but I posted about Ostmebor this week - he is a useless c@nt and should not be anywhere near our club. Today is by far the best I have ever seen him play and he was useless, you should have seen him at SMS in November and in the event of anyone slagging me off for saying this watch Norwich V Colchester or Charlton V Norwich (last season) on You Tube. My Norwich mate (delirious after their performance today) texted to say "bet Semi cost you your goal". Lambert practically drove him down here and the scout that recommended him needs sacking.

 

Lucky today to get a point but if we sign more Fonte's and do our homework on not signing Ostembors we'll be ok. Pardew has to deliver next season though although this season was always tough and not fair to judge. If we're not top by October 2010 I think Cortese would act.

 

Watching a different game, no doubt your one had a bit more prejudice in it- Otsemobor didn't have a bad game - he was certainly better than Seaborne though neither was close to Fonte in quality. Would rather see him for myself before writing him off. October 2010 - get real.

[The Cat]

What was with that loud droning noise the Millwall fans were making? Very strange.

 

Fonte looked solid and classy.

 

Davis made some quality saves. No chance with the goal, the shot was low and hard across him right into the corner. Looked like a weak tackle by Ostemobor to allow the chance.

 

Ridiculous amount of police though, they must earn a fortune out of Millwall.

[Pat from Poole]

We were very lucky to be in the stage where we could go 1-0 up in the 92nd minute.

 

Millwall should have smashed us. Yet again we were dominated in midfield.

 

We really need a playmaker and a soild CM Pardew! We lacked both those today.

 

Lambert isn't getting enough service lately.

 

Like I said after Colchester - We will NOT make the play offs. Heck with performances like that we could be here for a while with that team.

 

If we play like that against MK Dons we will be in for a hammering.

 

 

I wasn't there, but listening to it on Solent it sounded like we really struggled in midfield. Unsurprising with Hammond going off injured, but I really feared the worst when our midfield comprised of Holmes, Wotton, Schneiderlin and James. We did well to get a draw really.

[Chez]

Didn't think I saw him warming up at half time..........I don't think I saw him warming up before the start of the match either, but might have missed him.

 

All seems a bit strange to me.

 

Did anyone see Connolly on the bench or is there something going on?:confused:

 

my only thought was he did somethng in the warm up but it was too late to change the teamsheet?

[Chez]

What was with that loud droning noise the Millwall fans were making? Very strange.

 

The Millwall roar. Excellent if you ask me. Unique and very effective. How many did they have in the ground? Not too many but everyone joins in.

[Chez]

Anyone else at the game today think that Wotton had a good game? As much as he gets stick, he does break the play up well. He may not be the most talented footballer but he does a good job. Also thought's on James at RM? Personally I'm not too sure about this position but he looked handy when he cut inside. Tidy touches and does look for that killer ball instead of passing it back.

 

Wotton did pretty well but he has no legs and therefore covers himself by sitting so deep. This means Schneiderlin does all the runing and invariably we lose control and win no second ball.

 

James was OK, tidy in fact. But did their left back ever look under threat ever? Thats the problem, no pace, no trick, poor dribbler and in the end he just holds up and end. That is fine is you want to play it safe but shouldn't we be taking the games to people like we did earlier in the season with Waigo/Antonio.

[DrZuess1979 the 2nd]

Solent thought he was being saved for Mk Dons

[The Majestic Channon]

Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, is there really pardew out posts though?? is there really anyone that brain dead?

[John B]

Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, is there really pardew out posts though?? is there really anyone that brain dead?

 

No I dont think so a bit of reality clicking in.

 

 

 

After weeks of we are certs for the play offs and the best team in the League etc finally most now realise that it wont happen

[St Landrew]

The Millwall roar. Excellent if you ask me. Unique and very effective. How many did they have in the ground? Not too many but everyone joins in.

 

Have to admit, that sounded amazing and totally unique. I have never heard a football crowd sound like that before.

[musesaint]

Disappointed ...but be realsitic ...up until we scored we would have been happy with the draw as a fair result

 

Yes we lost focus after we scored ..but it happens ...and hopefully will be a lesson well learnt ...YET AGAIN?!

[Chez]

Have to admit, that sounded amazing and totally unique. I have never heard a football crowd sound like that before.

 

when they came to the Dell in the 88(ish) season they did it for about half an hour continuous creating an amazing atmosphere. That's enough Millwall back slapping for me though.